Pre-Season Week 4 Stock Market Report
by Ted Glover on Sep 6, 2010 2:37 AM CDT
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PrintWell, the 2010 pre-season has come and gone, like a bad cold, the beginning of school, or a recurring case of herpes. Now, starting Thursday, the games count, and guys that who were probably going to be working for the Post Office will be...working for the Post Office. With everything that's gone on in the last few days, the stock market report is going to be a bit short, and with all the cuts, it's probably pretty obvious who the buy/sell and junk bonds are going to be.
Because I know everyone is sad to see the end of the pre-season, and many hopes and dreams of playing professional football were crushed, I give to you as your musical selection...Sad Eyes, the Robert John Classic from 1979.
FYI, this was THE slow dance song for the East Grand Forks MN Junior High Dances (or Babe, by Styx). If you were dancing with a girl to this song, you were officially an ITEM, baby.
Christie Cartier, wherever you may be, I hope you've had a wonderful life.
Stock Market Report, after the jump.
Blue Chip Stocks: Rick Spielman and Scott Studwell, Front Office. One is the brother of Chris Spielman, Class 1 Badass, and the other IS a Class 1 Badass. They seem to make a good team, because since 2006, they've constructed what I think is the best team in the NFL through solid scouting, drafting, and free agency acquisition. Look at the talent up and down the roster, and then compare it to the talent on the roster at the end of 2005, and you'll shake your head in disbelief. The infusion of All-Pro's, solid starters, and key role players on special teams is remarkable, and whatever success this team has in 2010 is due in large part to their efforts. They have assembled a great team, now it's up to the players to deliver.
Sound Investments: The Practice Squad Players. The Vikings signed 7 players on to their practice squad after the Corleone Massacre of the Five Families cutdown day was finished. For me, I think Logan Payne and Ryan D'Imperio were the ones that impressed me the most. I don't know that they'll ever amount to anything, but for now they're living the dream, which is more than 20 guys who were their teammates two days ago can say.
Junk Bonds:
Rhys Lloyd, K. At the end of the day, the Vikings didn't go with two kickers on the roster, as Lloyd's last ditch effort to make the squad fell short (get it--kicker who booms them through the end zone falls sh-- nevermind).
Javon Walker, WR. Walker made a strong push for making the final cut with only two weeks on the roster and no chance to work with the first team. I actually thought he was going to make it once Sidney Rice was put on the PUP, but then the trade for Greg Camarillo made Walker's situation tenuous again.
Buy/Sell:
Buy: The end of pre-season. Thank God that's over. It gets more tedious every year. And for us Viking fans, it was relatively anti-climatic, seeing as how there were very few roster spots up for grabs.
Buy: Chris Cook starting, if he wasn't hurt. Cook came on like gangbusters, and with Cedric Griffin beginning practice, I'm liking the looks of the secondary in about a week or so. I just hope that they can hold down the fort against the Saints.
Sell: The Rosenfels and Reynaud trade to the Giants. I understood the Rosenfels trade, but I didn't like it. I didn't understand the Reynaud trade at all, though. Rosenfels wasn't going to beat out TJ, and that became apparent this pre-season, and if that was the choice, then so be it. Joe Webb's performance made Rosenfels expendable, so it was better to get something for him as opposed to releasing him and getting nothing. But Reynaud? He looked like he was adapting well to the switch to running back, I thought he had performed better than Albert Young, and he was still the best punt returner on the team. I just don't get it.
Sell: Greg Camarillo as punt returner. Well, not just Camarillom but anyone. Yeah, I'm harping on reynaud getting released, but it really does leave a void in special teams. Reynaud was a guy that could make things happen in the punt return game, and now that big play potential isn't there. If Percy Harvin returns punts, that big play ability will be there, but it seems like the Vikings aren't inclined to do that at this time. So that leaves Camarillo or a whole bunch of 'meh'.
All right, that's a wrap for the pre season stock market report. We'll be back after the Saints game with our week 1 report. I have a feeling that the stock market will be way up come Friday morning.
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They seem to make a good team, because since 2006, they’ve constructed what I think is the best team in the NFL through solid scouting, drafting, and free agency acquisition.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. I have a lot of confidence in their ability to build a team. I do question the Giants trade, but these guys know a lot more than me.
I like the Stock Market articles. Keem ’em coming.
by PurplePeopleEaters on Sep 6, 2010 3:05 AM CDT reply actions
Reynaud
Well Spielman must have felt that Albert Young + a 7th rnd draft pick is worth more to the team than Reynaud, simple as that. I can’t say I agree with him. Reynaud has been my favorite small time player since last season. He is every bit as explosive as Harvin on those punt returns and the idea of him possibly getting 5 carries a game made me happy.
Let’s throw Joe Webb on the PR. He can catch and he can run. I’m actually half-serious about this one…although I know you never put your quarterback on the returns haha
"I saw her today at a reception..."
“You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, well, you just might find
you get what you need.” – Rolling Stones
(Remember, Mick actually attended the London School of Economics, and I still own a rare purple jersey that still says “#82 REYNAUD”.)
You have to get the best deal available, which is not always the deal of your dreams. The Steelers did not want TJ, and the teams at the bottom of the food chain live off the waiver wire.
You can’t keep 55 (excuse me while Sammy Haggar flashes by me), unless two of them start slipping into the future (oops, their goes Steve Miller, …Les Paul, …and maybe the Eagles?)
Heck, we all gotta go sometime.
... sheepish :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Webb would not have lasted 5 minutes the PS
"We have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland the fighting spirit which Thor and Odin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the werewolves themselves had come."
-from Bram Stoker's Dracula
You got that right
Even the announcers in game 4 remarked on it.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I like pre season and take youngsters to many games .
But this year was different . Sad . Boring . And an up and down back end to the draft . And two losses from the PS in Triplett and P. Brown . Waivers and future upgrades are still coming . I see us dealing up to the cutoff dates.
Can't agree more about Reynaud.
Guy has the shake and bake needed to be a return guy. Tough to imagine any one else but Harvin having that kind of elusiveness.
Wow, you’re from East Grand Forks? Crazy small world, I grew up 7 miles south of Grand Forks and attended UND,
by Runt of the Litter on Sep 6, 2010 7:16 AM CDT reply actions
Thompson?
Wow. Really small world.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Sep 6, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Thompson? Really?
Our high school’s football team destroyed Thompson in ’93 on their way to the state 9-man championship.
Yes, 9-man football. North Dakotans know what I’m talking about.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 6, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thompson Tommies?!?!
My cousins graduated from Thompson. Holy crap, small world indeed.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
Will it all come out in the wash?
I was a little confused about the sage/reynaud trade myself. I figured reynaud was a poor man’s percy harvin so he would fill that WR/RB/KR/PR role if harvin went down with a migraine (or just to spell him in games). Guess nobody is sold on Jackson but Childress. (Trade the picks for a solid CB, OL or WR?)
Another Sound Investment would be Colt Anderson. Guy is all heart and motor.
He’s got things to learn no doubt but he just won’t quit.
Damn you Ted!!!!!!
Now I can’t get that flippin song out of my head!!!! Sad thing is, I do remember the song back then. Though I was 6 at the time. Only thing I remember from ’79 is a tornado came close to the house we lived in Lino Lakes that was a year old at the time. Wow, time flies.
Yeah, kinda miffed about Reynaud as well and looks like everyone else is.
As for Walker, I think we could have kept him and maybe let Lewis walk. Who knows, just my thought.
Right now, my only worry is injuries, especially how banged up Favre may, or may not be.
"Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" "Germans?" "Forget it, he's rolling."
Think it's true that they'll bring Walker back after week 1?
By the way, why does a significant portion of the media (including the Pioneer Press) talk about Harvin’s migraines like he’s out for the year?
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 6, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions
Noticed that myself
Little annoying too. Harvin has been pretty stable now. Sure he’ll have a few re-occurrence’s, but it is a pain to see people thinking he’s lost. Who knows, maybe they just ran out of idea’s on other players to write about.
"Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" "Germans?" "Forget it, he's rolling."
by VikesFaninNM on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Let 'em think that
Because when he has a huge game against the Saints, then people will do a big WTF. And I will laugh.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
by Ted Glover on Sep 6, 2010 12:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Is it true that medicine that can cure Harvins migrains is availible but banned by the NFL
If so Goodell needs to get over himself and allow exceptions to rule on a case by case basis
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd have to say that's the one...
the one California will vote on for ‘recreational’ uses in Nov…
I BELIEVE...
by ArizonaVikingsFan on Sep 6, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
unless those who think pot stores are the root of all crime have their say...
…although I can never get them to explain why they don’t also feel we should ban banks and thereby prevent bank robberies…
Last Dance With Mary Jane
One more time to kill the pain…
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
Hey Speed Camp . Your getting soft . At APC you threw your O/D lines under the big Green bus !!!
I see Walker coming back . Harvin will be fine . He will be needed a lot during the first two months . He can rest a little when Sidney gets back for the Green Bay game . It is like Goodell planned all of this . Hoping that players for both teams will be healthy for the Lambeau affair . Do you see this as a must win for Aaron to be considered a winner . We know he is talented . But he is chasing a ghost . I like that everyone except Pack fans say Brett will be out by mid season . Both teams need to peak in week #7 . I want a real clash of old and new . To see if GB needs to wait one more year to start building for a Superbowl . Goodell thinks so . By offering a Winterbowl after the 2011 season . It isn’t GB’s year with their dilema’s in the Trenches . I see you agreed with Dimes . You believe like I do that GB’s D-line is in more termoil than the O-line . The NFC North as a whole has upgraded their Passrush . Except GB ? Do you see a trade in the works ? With NYG maybe ? You are just a few players away from competing with the top six Defenses . BAL , NYJ , MIN , PHI , PIT , ARI . Week #1. will be a big step for Rodgers to get past their schemes . The Defensive genius DC passed . But they are still a sophisticated group .
I call 'em like I see 'em.
Though I don’t remember throwing the OL under the bus. I like GB’s OL quite a bit, actually. The starters are playing well, and we’ve got solid backups at 4 of 5 positions.
I like the DL too, but we’re only 4 deep in my opinion. and I’m worried about that, particularly since Jenkins has missed a few weeks in preseason and Pickett’s going to be asked to play a lot more than he has in previous years.
Do I see this season as a must win for Rodgers to be considered a winner? No. I think that’s mostly a construct generated by people who hope he fails. I think GB’s chance to be a Superbowl team this year is smaller than it could be because of Thompson’s lack of imagination and conservative nature. I don’t think Thompson is likely to make any deals before the deadline because he rarely makes those kind of deals. He had 5 players claimed on waivers after cut-down and he didn’t even manage to swing one trade with those players. That’s pathetic. Lots of people hate Thompson for the Favre business, but I don’t. I thought he made the right call. He drafts well, but he’s limited in most other ways as a GM. Will GB’s pass rush improve? I sort of doubt it. Raji will generate more of a push up the middle than Pickett did last year and they flipped Mathews to the other side in the hopes of keeping teams from controlling he and Jenkins with 3 players the way they tried to last year. Other than that they appear to be hoping that Jones will take a big step forward. I’m skeptical of that, but Thompson’s relied on internal improvement before with some success. Time will tell.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 6, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey- I posted this on another article, but about five days after everyone else had already stopped posting on it and moved on with their lives. :P Here are my thoughts on why Reynaud’s now a Giant:
The fact that we traded Rosenfals was, as for all the above mentioned reasons, obvious and well foreseen, but the addition of Reynaud caught most by surprise. What surprises me more though is that I haven’t really seen anyone point out since what I feel to be the obvious- we HAD to package Reynaud! When we picked up Rosenfals we gave up a draft pick for it, and I’m sure that, considering that trade ended up being less than worthless, the FO really wanted to recoup something for him. Trick is, everyone with half a brain knew that with the roster cut looming, we weren’t going to keep 4 QB’s, and that it was extremely likely that Rosenfals as the odd man out. So why trade anything to get a guy who’s going to be free in a few days anyways?
I’m sure when the Vike’s FO called the Giant’s FO, that’s exactly the conversation that occured. At some point, an exasperated Spielman or Chilly prolly went, ‘OK, so what ELSE do you want then?’ at which point, the Giants pointed out that they not only needed a backup QB, but also a punt returner- and bam, Reynaud got thrown into the package, whether the FO really liked it or not.
Makes perfect sense to me. The Vikes spent a lot of money and a draft pick to get a guy who held a clipboard, and were so desperate to at least offset SOME of their losses that they gave up a perfectly decent and considerably valuable player in the process. Here’s hoping it all works out, and that Harvin really does have a bead on those migraines, cuz lord knows we just increased his already sizeable sophmore year workload…….
Yeah, this makes some sense.
I think I made a brief comment on another thread that was similar to your line of thinking. It’s interesting that the less valuable of the two picks we got is the 2012 pick which is tied to Sage’s playing time. I think this indicates that the deal was really centered on Reynaud for a 5th and we were lucky to toss Sage in for a conditional pick instead of just releasing him.
by CanadianViking on Sep 6, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Imagine
What it would cost us if we tried to trade T.J. lol
Oh, I suspect
the Giants might have taken TJ if we had thrown in AD and Reynaud for a seventh rounder…
…imagine (oops, there goes that Lennon) the sad eyes which that would have caused, maybe even a quiet riot (…bang your head)
Just a couple of points.
You say Spielman or Chilly said something and
Bam- Reynaud got thrown in the package whether the FO really liked it or not.
The FO is made up of Brezezinski, Spielman, and Chilly. They work together not independently.
I would point out that you have not said who on the present roster you would have dumped if we kept Reynaud. I presume you would have dumped Albert Young. To suggest that the FO thought DR was the 2nd best RB and let him go really belies the way they do business.
The RB is responsible for blitz pick-up. Albert is better than DR at this skill. I like DR as much as anyone. In fact I wanted to keep 4 RBs. But I did see Albert doing a whole lot of good things during preseason.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Sep 6, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Good call or Brzezinski
But he’s the money/salary cap guy. I don’t think he does any talent evaluation, does he?
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
Well, when I said ‘whether the FO liked it or not’, I meant whether Chilly/ Spielman/ Brzezinski, whoever masterminded the trade, liked that it was going to cost Reynaud or not to get it done. Not that the FO gave itself the middle finger in a weird bout of self hatred. :P
Who would I have dumped? Not sure, haven’t looked at that. We do have a lot of defensive players that will esentially become baggage, and as has been pointed out a lot, several of our backups could easily start for other teams. Of course, the Giants aren’t really feeling the need for extra defense boost, so that’s my guess as to why it never became a possibility to include one of them for ensuring the Sage trade GOT something.
I wouldn’t have kept Reynaud based off his abilities as a RB only- if that were all he could do, then I’d say trade away. However, it’s his return abilities, and the fact that we now are kinda thin in that potential game make-or-break area, that has me a bit nervous. Granted, I can’t think of any games last year that we won on Reynaud’s legs, but that doesn’t rule out its possibility in 2010-11. (Well, the trade does rule it out, though, obviously…)
Ted … love your writing, but … please lose the musical allusions, and fast. First Journey now this. Think I’m gonna barf :)
Hey, now
There will be no bad-mouthing of Journey around here.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 6, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If I were looking to pick up a guy for a 7th . I would want a contributer . Not just a developemental guy . In the end it will be win win .
With Seth Oleson/OG from DEN . Their 09’ 4th . I see R. Cook as trade bait . They are giving him time at OC . We drafted him as a OC and Brad didn’t think he would convert to the NFL with his dimensions . Can we get a fifth for him ? He is as good as any fifth they said before the draft . Did DeGeare drive down his value ? I say trade him . Even if it is a 5th in 2012 . What do you see ?
I love J. Mitchell . He is productive . Can you see interest in him ? MLB , S , DT , DE were very weak on the waiver wire . What do you think ? E. Griffen can sit behind Jared as Robison floats across the line as versatile as he is .
Degeare is staying put
He is our future RG and may even start this Thursday if Herrera starts at center. R. Cook should be used at center but instead he is our top backup at OT. I think with the moves done today with acquiring Welch OT and Olsen OG that we are done with moves unless God forgive we have an other injury.
by nmvikesfan on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Born and raised in south Detroit...
Okay Windsor but close enough.
Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.
Robert John?
I didn’t know Elton had a brother.
I guess I was busy listening to all that Punk and New Wave.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 6, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
For you puddn
I’m going into what’s called ‘deep cut’ mode. :)
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
going to start putting dollars in the tip jar
and ask for some Floyd… Relics (Farve) Welcome to the machine if we tromp someone?
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Shine on you Crazy Diamond, Fearless, Money, and Comfortably Numb are other good ones for Favre : )
For the rest of the team:
Another brick in the Williams Wall
Wish you were here Sidney Rice
Run like Hell AD
by CanadianViking on Sep 7, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
East Grand Forks MN.
I lived there for a year when i was stationed at Grand Forks ND.
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
Grand Forks?
You were in the AF?
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 6, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Football gentlemen . Football ?
Where can I find a list of unclaimed waiver guys ? One that updates .
yes i was a 304x0 i was in Grand Forks in 1980-1981
I was also stationed at Keesler in 1979
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn
Thanks for doing it before I did.
Not the same job, mind you (1w0x1), but yeah.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 6, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you for doing it now
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 6, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
What AFSC was that?
I was a boom operator before I became a helo pilot.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
radio relay eqipment repairman
i was a buck sargent when i got out in 83
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 6, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, cool
Thanks for keeping comm open in Grand Forks. has to be the epitome of a thankless job.
Thanks for your service, sir.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
and thank you also for doing it
World Champions at last
by mississippisaintsfan on Sep 6, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Options for PR and KR
Well from what I’ve been reading Asher Allen is going to be our PR, he did lead the SEC in PR in college. I guess BB will be the back him up PR. I would rather have Reynaud there but oh well.
Harvin of course is our KR with Albert Young backing him up.
The loss of Reynaud puts us in danger of one of our starters getting hurt.
The FO did do a good job with these trades because we did get something in return and those draft picks could be used next year to move up if need be.
by nmvikesfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Financially Speaking
Rosenfels needed to go. He’s too expensive to hold a clipboard all year, and if he isn’t good enough to beat out Jackson now, then he certainly won’t be able to next year neither.
This way, the FO saves millions and gets a draft pick in return.
Don't make me write another article proving how wrong that is.
My fingers are tired.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Your article proved nothing.
Just because Chilly likes him doesnt make him good. You can use whatever angle you want to prop up Jackson, fact is rosey outplayed the shit out of him this preseason (along with most qb’s in the league).
Buy:
Jaime Mitchell DE; he played lights out this preseason and to me was the most impressive Viking. I thought he might be the odd man out with the signing of Montgomery and drafting of Griffen but he out played them both by far and away. He made SF’s 1st rd pick OT Smith look like Chris Clark. If he continues his improvement he could be Edwards’ replacement if he does walk after this year.
Erin Henderson; the 2nd most impressive player this preseason. He led the Vikings in tackles and scored a defensive TD. They tried him out at MLB and he did a great job, after being a disappointment last year, he looks like he is stepping up and helping this great defense be even better.
by nmvikesfan on Sep 6, 2010 1:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
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Sell: Housh
Anyone suspect this dude is having second thoughts about once having told Zygi his extra money was no good and that he’d really rather be a Seahawk???
Getting cut despite the fact the Hawks still owe you millions anyway does not look all that great on your resume.
With the money he was making
He doesn’t really need to float that Resume out there as much as the rest of us…
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Makes a killer grape juice
Outside of that, I’ve got nothing for you.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 6, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm rec'd that Welsh comment
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
Dwayne Thomas Welch
5th year Senior at Vanderbilt in 2009 .
7th rd draft choice of the New England Patriots
bummed his ankle late in the year at Vandy .
was considered their most athletically gifted athlete on the OL .
6-7 , 310 while at Vanderbilt
This just in...
TJ Houshyourmomma gets signed by Baltimore, and the Ravens trade WR Mark Clayton to the Rams.
"Whoever said that the pen is mightier than the sword never encountered automatic weapons."
That's what I've been trying to find out.
Not even google knows…
by nmvikesfan on Sep 6, 2010 4:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Man Baltimore is really working on it's passing game
If the coaches out there can work it in well they’re going to be in the AFCCG this year.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
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