2011 East-West Shrine Game Open Thread
The 2011 East-West Shrine Game is set to kick off in a few hours here, getting the college all-star game and draft season started in earnest. Kickoff is scheduled for slightly less than five hours from now (3 PM Central time, with a pre-game show starting at 2:30), and will be televised on the NFL Network. . .I believe that I erroneously said the other day that it was going to be on ESPN2, and I apologize for that error.
There are plenty of guys to keep an eye on for this one, but I'm going to narrow things down to one player on each side of the ball on each roster that I'll be watching this afternoon. The rosters can be found right here if you want a full list of the players that will be partaking in this afternoon's festivities.
East Offense - Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware
The Vikings are almost certainly going to be looking to take a quarterback in the first couple of rounds of this year's draft, and if they can't get one of the "Big Four" that I think are going to end up in the draft's first round, the next tier of players is going to feature players like Devlin. Devlin has decent size (6'3", 225) and put up some pretty impressive numbers at Delaware, completing 68% of his passes for 3,032 yards and 22 touchdown to just three interceptions. Devlin started out at Penn State, but transferred to Delaware between the 2008 and 2009 seasons. Devlin led all of FCS football in 2010 with his 68.3% completion rate, and got his team within one point of the FCS National Championship, with the Blue Hens falling 20-19 to #1 Eastern Washington. The detractors will say that he played in a very quarterback-friendly system at Delaware, but hey. . .the last guy that came out of the same offense at the same school seems to have done pretty well for himself at the NFL level thus far.
East Defense - Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
Before this season started, Austin was hyped as a potential top-5 pick in the draft as part of a North Carolina defense that was loaded with talent. I say "was" because the 6'3", 310-pound defensive tackle got caught up in the cheating scandal that saw five Tarheels suspended, and was eventually suspended indefinitely by Tarheels coach Butch Davis for matters "unrelated" to that particular incident. I'm not sure how keen the Vikings might be on drafting someone with some pretty obvious character concerns, but if Leslie Frazier is the Tony Dungy-type that he's rumored to be, he may feel that he and Karl Dunbar can keep Austin under wraps and harness his enormous talent. He could make a fine replacement for Pat Williams. . .in time. . .if the Vikings feel that he's worth the risk, even with the depth on the DL that the Vikings already possess.
West Offense - Jordan Cameron, TE, USC
Cameron started out as a wide receiver for the Trojans, but made the transition to the tight end spot this season. So, as you can imagine, he isn't the greatest blocking tight end in the world at this point, but he could very easily end up being one of those hybrid tight end types that has the ability to split out wide and create some mismatch problems for opposing defenses. A former basketball player, Cameron has very good size (6'5", 240), good speed and athleticism, and good hands. He has been receiving a lot of praise at this week's practices, and is one of those players that is moving his way up the draft boards in rapid fashion.
West Defense - Dontay Moch, LB, Nevada
The Vikings might be looking for a replacement at linebacker, and while Moch might be a bit of a project at the position, he could be a guy worth taking a shot on. Lining up at defensive end at Nevada, he set a team record as a junior with 20 tackles for loss. . .and wasn't satisfied with that, so he went out and got 22 as a senior to break that mark. At 6'1", 245, he's probably too small to line up as as defensive end in a 4-3 system like Minnesota's, and probably projects to more of a stand-up OLB in a 3-4, but he has the athletic ability to play OLB in a 4-3, too, in my opinion. He would have to learn some cover skills in that case, but I think he'd have the ability to do that.
Who will you be keeping an eye on in this afternoon's game?
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Moch
is the one I’ll be watching. He’s a physical freak, running a 40 in as low as 4.25. He was very productive and had a great motor the two times I saw him. Gave Boise State fits.
I think Devlin
will shoot up the boards after pro day, etc.
I’m not sold on any of the big 4 being a franchise QB and Devlin is a good game manager and has a good enough arm to make NFL throws.
I wouldn’t mind picking up someone like him or Andy Dalton in a later round, if they are available.
If we want Dalton or Devlin
We’re going to have to take them in Round 2, since we don’t have a third-rounder and I don’t think either of them make it to the fourth.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 22, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
There's my trade down scenario
If Locker isn’t available at 12, then you trade down to late 1st round for a 3rd round pick, and go for 1) wide receiver, 2) QB, 3) Offensive lineman, 4) CB.
Everybody else will be a project. If dubious character guys like Marvin Austin are available in round 5, that’s Frasier’s call. Guys that do stupid, self-destructive things in their personal lives are hard to change.
If they trade past 21 they need to get a 2nd round pick plus another
If they trade past 16 they need to get a 3rd round pick plus another
He had some very nice plays against Cal...
… chasing down Vereen behind the line of scrimmage for a loss from the backside of the line.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
by BacksThePack on Jan 22, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think Nate Enderle is worth a watch too. QB from powerhouse Idaho. He probably projects as a mid-round pick.
Big strong armed guy. Definitely a player who would need to be developed for a few years, but he’s really turned heads at the practices.
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Why not Rhett Bomar?
6’2", 225 lbs. Rocket arm. Already on the team.
Unless a QB brings something special to the table (Mallet’s arm, Locker’s scrambling, Newton’s or Dalton’s final seasons), then I don’t see a reason to stockpile big, strong-armed guys. If anything, why not draft Colin Kaepernick?
From Wikipedia: “Kaepernick currently stands as the only quarterback in the history of Division I college football to have passed for over 10,000 yards and rushed for over 4,000 yards in a collegiate career and also as the only QB to have passed for over 2,000 yards and rushed for over 1,000 yards in a single season three times in a career (consecutively).”
Found it on the internet, so I know it’s true!
Youre joking right?
Enderle is terrible.
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I wonder about Moch's weight
I think he may be close to 230 actually. I cannot find the actual weigh in numbers.
He would be interesting to try out at OLB. But the Vikings need something more than interesting. They need a guy who had actually done it.
I like Devlin because he seems to have the mental part down which is something Frazier wanted.
He said on twitter he's been sick
He was at 255.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
by BacksThePack on Jan 22, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
4.25... SECONDS in the 40???
That’s hard to believe, especially for a guy that weighs 230 pounds. If he was that fast, wouldn’t somebody be handing or throwing footballs to him as an RB or WR?
If a guy that size runs a verified sub-4.3 forty yards at Pro Day or the combine, he’s going to go very early in the draft. You just don’t see linebackers that are faster than all the wide receivers in the NFL.
We don’t believe it was an electrically timed run, but he ran it multiple times. He was not 230 at the time, he was 15-25 pounds heavier last spring.
I expect a 4.4 40.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
by BacksThePack on Jan 22, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Not playing at the East-West Shrine Game, but
I just saw a posting on the NFC North blog on ESPN about the possibility of Vince Young ending up with the Vikings. Just wondering if you guys think he would be a good fit for your team?
Keep an eye on Virgil Green for the West
Te with soft hands and an excellent blocker. He’s fast enough that Nevada used him on some TE Sweeps.
Go Nevada Wolf Pack!
No franchise type QB's in this game guys
Those of you who were hoping to find the QBOTF in this draft are going to have to wait until next Saturday at the Senior Bowl. Devlin was average at best in this one. He didn’t look specatacular in the championship game either. He is not the type of player that can put a franchise on his back and lead them to victory in crucial moments. He will be an average game manager at best.
The Boise St. DE that the Vikes were talking to at the practices this week showed some ability. He reminds me a little of Brian Robison. He plays the run a little better than his pass rush ability. He has good lateral movement. Not very explosive in his first step. But he does not give up on plays and shows some hustle.
Chris Hairston was solid at LT in the game. Unfortunately the defenses are pretty vanilla in these games so we didn’t see him versus the blitz or any stunts.
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