Jeff Fisher No Longer Titans Coach; Less Chance Vince Young Comes To Minnesota?

by Christopher Gates on Jan 27, 2011 6:58 PM CST in Minnesota Vikings

Earlier this season, Tennessee Titans' quarterback Vince Young had a bit of a freak out after he was pulled from a game against the Washington Redskins earlier this year. He may or may not have tossed his jersey and shoulder pads into the stands and pretty much stormed out of the team facility, leading to Titans' coach Jeff Fisher benching him for the rest of the season. After the Vikings hired Craig Johnson away from the Titans a week or so ago, speculation immediately started that Young could possibly be on his way to Minnesota, since there was no way he was going to be able to co-exist with Fisher.

Well, now Young won't have to co-exist with Fisher. . .whether he comes to Minnesota or stays in Tennessee.

Fisher, the NFL's longest-tenured coach, and the Titans have announced that they are going to part ways, according to a statement that the team released a short time ago. Adam Schefter is reporting that this doesn't necessarily mean that the Titans have chosen Young over Fisher, and they could well get rid of them both.

Our friends over at Music City Miracles aren't quite sure about Young at this point, despite what Schefter is reporting. On one hand, whoever the Titans hire to be as their next head coach may agree with Young's declaration that he's an elite quarterback. . .on the other hand, Young may have already burned too many bridges in Tennessee, and there may not be any way that they can bring him back, given that there's a large part of the Titans' fan base that thinks that Jeff Fisher "walks on water," according to the folks at MCM.

I'm not sold on Vince Young in Minnesota in any case. . .I don't think he has the maturity or the heart to lead this team to anything big, regardless of whether Craig Johnson is going to be coaching him or not. But, if the team was interested in bringing Young in, that avenue may be blocked now. Or it may not be. Isn't the off-season fun?

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Vince Young

Just Say No

Darko is my bodyguard.

by Premier Cherdenko on Jan 27, 2011 7:06 PM CST reply actions

Agreed.

Great talent, questionable mentality.

by Midnight Rambler on Jan 28, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions

No Vince nooo!

You will love ice fishing……lol…..kidding

A bird in the hand is worth about 10.99 at KFC and makes me lick my chops
Yummy!!!!!

by kdog69 on Jan 27, 2011 7:27 PM CST reply actions

No.

by muffin man on Jan 27, 2011 7:47 PM CST reply actions

No or not on VY...

What about Jeff Fisher? Can we get HIM in the org??

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 27, 2011 7:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

This

Hell yeah!

Darko is my bodyguard.

by Premier Cherdenko on Jan 27, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions

Highly doubtful.

I doubt he’ll settle for anything less than HC position.

by chaosg on Jan 27, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions

You got to be kidding.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14486593/fishers-reputation-doesnt-match-titans-results

by Alway Learning on Jan 28, 2011 6:31 AM CST up reply actions

This almost makes me wish we'd been a bit more patient before removing the "interim" tag

Jeff Fisher is definitely the kind of guy I’d want as a HC.

by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 27, 2011 8:38 PM CST reply actions

Why?

He’s only had a winning record in 6 of his 17 seasons in Houston/Tennessee. He hasn’t won a playoff game since the beginning of the last decade. One SB apperance in 17 years.

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

by NMVike on Jan 28, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions

He had to rebuild a trashed team to start with.

He did that well, took it to the Super Bowl…which is more than any coach we’ve had since Bud Grant has done, ahem. And I’d suggest that most of his problems the last couple years have been inflicted on him from above. With a more stand-offish owner who respects his football people?

Anyway, I’m not saying he should’ve been an automatic hire. But I do think he would’ve been worth a talk to see what he would do. I didn’t see anything Frazier did that demanded pulling the interim label post-haste. That’s not to say I haven’t liked most of the moves since the season ended. But I’m not forgetting they laid eggs against the Giants, Bears, and Lions under his leadership during the season.

by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 28, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

So you're giving a pass for Fisher's failures due to extenuating circumstances

But aren’t willing to extend the same open-mindedness to Frazier? Coach Frazier took over a situation that was as toxic as any situation any coach has ever experienced in the history of the NFL. The 2010 Minnesota Vikings were literaly the butt of every joke. And in the middle of all that chaos, Coach Frazier was able to bring a sense of calm and confidence to his players. Keep in mind he had to do that with assistant coaches that weren’t necessarily loyal to him.

I used to feel the same way about Fisher. I mean he had to be doing something right to keep his job as long as he did, right? Well appearantly not all that glitters is gold. He’s made some questionable moves the last few years (showing up in a Peyton Manning jersey, benching VY for no reason, attempting to hire his son against his owner’s wishes, etc.). And all the while he was pretty mediocre.

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

by NMVike on Jan 28, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not giving Fisher a pass

I think, like others have said, he stayed in Tennessee too long.

The difference is, Frazier was part of the problem with the Vikes. He brought in Madieu Williams. He failed to identify people to make the secondary better for years. And he failed to make changes to his defensive scheme this season when teams adapted to the Cover 2.

And it’s not just they lost those games. They laid eggs, against rivals. They played without heart in games where motivation shouldn’t have been an issue.

So while I didn’t want Frazier excluded from an interview process, I thought the rush to remove the interim tag entirely inappropriate given the fact nothing changed, performance wise, with him as Head Coach.

by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 28, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions

Nah.

Frazier’s going to be the man. Look at what he’s done already. I say dance with the date you brought. Not saying Fisher won’t be succesful, but I like the ‘in-house’ promotion, particularly since it’s THIS guy.

by KJSegall on Jan 28, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions

If Vince Young joins the Vikings

which, BTW, I have been a fan of for as long as I’ve watched NFL football, I swear I won’t watch one game until he’s off the roster. Vince Young is a spoiled crybaby quitter. DO NOT SIGN THIS GUY.

"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan

by Kpz1234 on Jan 27, 2011 9:19 PM CST reply actions

I don't think we will

There’s enough room for only one spoiled crybaby quitter in this division

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 27, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions

hehe

i see what you did there

by muffin man on Jan 27, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions

+6

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jan 27, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions

Not sure what Bud Adams is thinking

I’d rather have Fisher instead of Young

"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin

by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 27, 2011 9:20 PM CST reply actions

agreed

by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 28, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

Young won't be back, either.

by Mel Allen on Jan 28, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

Bud Adams

Did, technically, choose Fisher over Young. He’s just so full of himself that Fisher was sick of it regardless and decided to leave on his own. Says a lot about Adams. Seriously, hit him up for a trade for B Berrian and M Williams. If not him, then go for Dan Snyder. Either of them look dumb enough to give us well over their value at this point.

by KJSegall on Jan 28, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions

The Vikings do not have a great QB right now.

To discount Vince Young, at his age, with his ability, is not very forward thinking. We have his QB coach. We have the need for his talent. We have a new coach that might believe he can fix what’s wrong. If Leslie Frasier chooses the challenge, then I’m all in backing his decision.

IT IS TIME TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO DRAFT A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.
No more old guys. No more excuses. No more passing up our own great drafted quarterback.

by lifelongvike on Jan 27, 2011 10:07 PM CST reply actions

You're the first one I agree with since reading this thread!

by abba7 on Jan 28, 2011 5:09 AM CST up reply actions

Second that.....

the upside is LARGE. Yes, he has had issues with maturity. But they weren’t legal/substance abuse issues. An organization that supports him from top to bottom might be what is needed. I find it interesting that there are many that would take Michael Vick in a second, who, by the way, had issues beyond legal ones, but, would pass on VY.

by Mel Allen on Jan 28, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions

Difference between Vick and VY...

Vick, who’s issues were undoubtedly much larger than VY’s, has since redeemed himself- and by more than just good play. He appears far more mature and responsible. VY, on the other hand, has done nothing to show this. It’s true he MIGHT, but I’m just not sold he will. Particularly after the Randy Moss experience.

I won’t say that I’m against checking the guy out. I trust Frazier enough to judge his character and lay down some ground rules. That said, lots of guys will work their butts off to prove themselves early on, and as soon as they get through their ‘grace period’, will instantly revert to their old ways. I’d hate to see VY show up, do a great job in his first year, earn the respect and trust of the team…. and then flip out and go crybaby on us all over again.

by KJSegall on Jan 28, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions

VY has major life issues

The Vikings should not bring him in. As a VY fan from his college days, I have to say that he should take a year off from the game and get his head straight.

He threw his gear in the stands. He stormed out of a team meeting. He considers himself an elite quarterback, and laughs at the idea that he would be a backup quarterback.

If Jeff Fisher and Craig Johnson couldn’t coach him, why do we think that Leslie Frazier and Craig Johnson can?

VY should take a year off from the game, get some perspective back, and find himself.

by medicineball on Jan 28, 2011 5:57 AM CST up reply actions

Plus

He might have suicidal feelings again if he gets booed again, since our fans are a bit louder than those who booed him in Tennessee.

by Lofoten on Jan 28, 2011 6:12 AM CST up reply actions

For those who don't remember the possibly suicidal VY

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3584636 for the original report

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/06/68160421/1 for VY’s side of the story.

by Lofoten on Jan 28, 2011 6:15 AM CST up reply actions

Guess who went to the Press?

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2008/9/12/613261/jeff-fisher-vince-young-me

by Alway Learning on Jan 28, 2011 7:31 AM CST up reply actions

Well, lots of folks are whiming the QBOTF has to be a #1 pick

Vince was and many a wayward QB has found new life in a new location, Would I want more of a sure thing.. Yes. But this QB thing will not be easy. Seriously folks, Not one anaylist or bogger, for that matter, has come out and said any of the assumed 1st rounders are a “homerun” in this draft. I seriously believe this is the year a a mid rounder like Dalton or Ponder might be the guy who breaks thru
I am not giving up on Webb and reports still have Rohmer to be pretty good arm. (He could be the BrettFavre from Atlanta move) of the decade. Leslie was more than happy by what he saw. He was never going to get a shot in NY and the Giants were not going to put the ball in the hands of their #3 guy.
Vince comes in (tho I might welcome Daunte back B4 that) hut, if Vince has a refreshed attitude he might work out. There isn’t a lot of opportunities to get a prime time guy. So here’s hoping one guy steps up and shows his kahuna’s.
Geez, if Webb showed some stuff that late in the season his confidence has got to be sky high.
Rohmer was promised a fair shake.
Cam might be hard to pass on but if we made the right moves and got 2 of these 3 early -Solder, Camari or Pouncy. Our QB might have the protection he needs to succeed.
We aquire another 2nd or 3rd rounder

AKA : Revenge4Webb

by CitrusFLViking on Jan 27, 2011 11:36 PM CST reply actions

and grab Dalton, Ponder, or Kaepernick. But we do some shifting we could get two outstanding linemen by moving back and aquiring high picks
Also,Bruce Carter out of UNC could be a good pick if we could aquire a high 3rd LB who can play now taken in the 3rd
But alas 1st round QB wishers. Many have us taking Newton or Locker. Unless Mewton is finally the athlete QB who breaks the mold of great athlete but not an NFL QB
Gotta admit. Would be hard to be sitting in the war room and both Locker and Newton are still sitting in the green room

PS. Wish we could find a spot for Fisher. Think he would have made a good RB coach

AKA : Revenge4Webb

by CitrusFLViking on Jan 27, 2011 11:50 PM CST reply actions

Vince Young is not the answer.

He is very talented, but his well-publicized meltdowns scream, “Stay away!” There are “gettable” QBs out there – Kolb, Orton, Henne – who I’d feel more comfortable with. Hell, bring in J.P. Losman or Jeff Garcia before Young (slight exaggeration there, but only slight!),

I have no idea what we're yelling about!

by SoDakHmr on Jan 28, 2011 12:02 AM CST reply actions