Could the Minnesota Vikings Have Their Pick Of The 2011 Quarterback Class?
by Christopher Gates on Jan 31, 2011 12:16 PM CST
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PrintAccording to at least one mock draft, they just might. The good folks at SB Nation have put out their most recent mock draft, and from what they have at the moment, all of the top 11 teams in the draft. . .some of whom have needs at quarterback as well. . .will all be passing on signal callers before the Vikings have their turn at the podium.
That would mean that the Vikings could take any quarterback they wanted at number 12, and that's exactly what the folks at the mothership have them doing, plucking Missouri junior quarterback Blaine Gabbert with their selection.
It's not overly likely that the Vikings will have their pick of the litter at quarterback, but this scenario brings forth an interesting debate: Gabbert or Cam Newton? We'll go with Gabbert for now, as he's got fewer question marks (but perhaps less upside).
Now I, for one, think that the quarterbacks are going to start moving back up the board after the Combine and individual workouts and things of that nature, but if the draft did happen to play out like this, I think I could live with Gabbert at #12. Gabbert has shown some pretty good mobility for a quarterback his size (6'3", 235), and had a 40-to-18 touchdown to interception ratio in his two seasons as Missouri's starting quarterback. He may not have Newton's upside, but he also might not have quite as much bust potential, either.
Also, if the Vikings do select Gabbert. . .or any other quarterback. . .at #12, it would be the second-highest pick the Vikings have ever spent on a quarterback. Only Daunte Culpepper, who the Vikings took with the 11th overall selection in 1999, would have gone at a higher spot in the draft.
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Get him!
I would support a Gabbert selection! Not so sure it would be between him and Newton, though. If ALL the top-rated QBs are available at #12, I think I’d be weighing the long-term merits of about 3-5 of them and selecting the one who seems most dynamic and stable for a 10-year plan. In my amateur estimation, the short list would probably have to include Gabbert, Locker, Newton and Dalton. So much of what I’ve read concerns me about Mallet, but maybe he belongs in the mix too. These guys are all talented but very different from one another, so therein lies a determining factor. Which one best fits the Vikings for the next 10 years? I’m no scout, so I trust the brass will have a clear ranking going into the draft and I pray they pick the right one. My hunch is Gabbert, but the team needs and should pick any of these guys.
Everything I've read
says the ‘one’ of these QBs the FO would want is Gabbert, if they had their pick. So that tracks.
I like him as well. But then I also like Ponder and Dalton. I don’t agree about Newton’s “upside.” He’s not a terribly accurate QB, and had large windows to throw into most of the time in college due to being predominantly a runner. I don’t ‘dislike’ him. But I think he’s being pushed too high.
I also am increasingly unimpressed with Locker’s inaccuracy. It was easier to forgive when he had a crap team around him in Washington. But considerably less so when he was just as bad in Mobile. shrugs So strike him off the list as far as I’m concerned.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 31, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions
Reading where?
I’ve heard everything from Gabbert has great mobility, accuracy and decision making all the way to he’s the product of a gimmick offense who can’t move in the pocket and stares down his receivers. I’ve heard from he’s a sure fire elite QB to he’s a sure fire bust. However, these sources didn’t say much else other than that. If you have any links describing Gabbert’s potential and play-style, and definitely if they talk about the FO liking him, then by all means share them. Love to read up on this guy.
It was mentioned here a while back...
Also I think it was mentioned Paul Allen’s said this. And he may have homer-glasses appraising talent. But he is wired into what the FO is thinking.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 31, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
I don't care
As much as we need a QB, I don’t see any of these QBs sticking out. They all have a weird combination of talents and issues. I don’t care who the Vikings select, but if we’re sitting at #12 and no QB has been picked, then I say we pass on them as well. If they’ve gotten past that gauntlet of QB starved franchises then that might say something. The teams that draft behind us aren’t as QB needy as we are so you would think the QBs would just freefall in the draft. Honestly, why not get one of the Olinemen or Secondary or BPA picks there and then hope one of the QB picks that you targeted is still available in the 2nd round, or if you have to trade up in the 2nd to get one then do that.
Not really
I don’t think ANY of those franchises is as QB starved as WE are.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 31, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
IT'S THE 2000 NFL DRAFT!!!
1st QB that was taken was Chad Pennington at #18 to the Jets. It was horrible QB draft, but not completed un talented… Tom Brady was drafted at #199 in the 2000 draft. So if this is the 2000 draft, maybe McElroy is the real deal!!!!! Or… we just draft Gabbert the 2nd we get chance! I think we look to package a deal up and get him any way.
Draft a QB! Please God!
by Macdaddy4508 on Jan 31, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
First things First...
There are a lot of teams ahead of us in need of a QB, but unlike us those other teams also need about 6 or 7 other players. They aren’t just that one guy away and a top ten QB demands a higher price tag than a top ten OL or DE so I could see those teams taking DE especially with as many available this year at the top…We on the other hand have a glaring weakness at QB. If Gabbert dropped to 12 I’d jump on it in an instant. Of the “Top” QBs he’s the only one I see with enough upside and skill to come in right away and compete. That would give you the option to run with Gabbert/Webb right away and draft a late QB as well, or draft Gabbert, keep Webb as either a WR or 3rd QB and then pick up a Kolb or Orton and fill in for a couple years.
by SouthSotaPop on Jan 31, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
So, you are suggesting we don’t need 6 or 7 players? Even if all the free agents return, we still need 2 qb’s (to fill out depth), 2 offensive linemen, 2 defensive backs, a safety and at least 1 defensive lineman. That would be 8 people. Don’t fool yourself, we are not ‘a qb’ away from the Super Bowl any more.
QB vs other position at #12
While I see your point about letting the QBs fall to us later in the draft, the problem becomes one of value at #12. If indeed we are staring at a scenario where all the top QBs are still there at #12, that means all those teams above us have been gobbling up all the other good players.
When there is super value at one position, that usually means a lack of value at others (because the good ones have all been taken).
Looking at the mock draft from above, who would you take in that slot besides a QB?
Patrick Peterson? Gone.
DaQuan Bowers? Gone
Amukamara? Gone.
Julio Jones and AJ Greene? Gone.
In other words, there just isn’t anybody else worth taking besides Gabbert.
If this actually happens, take Gabbert.
Newton is the flashier player and better athlete, but he has more work to do to become a star NFL QB: think Matt Ryan v. Tim Tebow, if they had been in the same draft, or Ben Ruthlessraper v. Mike Vick.
But, I don’t believe Gabbert will still be sitting there when the Vikings pick.
by Midnight Rambler on Jan 31, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions
i disagree a little
I don’t think Cam is a running QB. I think of him as a more talented McNabb. I think he can be a great passing QB in this league with the gifts to run. I like his size more than anything. There’s a reason why Terelle Pryor didn’t leave early. That’s because he has all the physical gifts, but he’s not a true passer yet. Yes, I’m using that term loosely, but I think Cam is going to be a stud. Plus, look how well he plays when you pay him :)
Oh, and about the "off the field issues" he's had
NOT AN ISSUE. He stole a laptop for SCHOOL. He wanted to get PAID for school. His family didn’t have $$. Issue #1 will get taken care of on day 1 in his NFL career. I like how he celebrates w/ the students after they win the game. I see some of those “tebow” intangibles in him and a passion for the game.
Not an ISSUE?
Whoa. That’s bold. So it’s okay that he stole something because he needed it? Try to get that one to hold up in a court of law.
He stole a laptop AND tampered with evidence. He cheated on tests. He tried to swindle money for his athletic services in college. Those are huge red flags. Imagine what he will be like WHEN he gets paid!
And to your not about being a more talented McNabb, McNabb was drafted #2 overall in what was seen as a “deep QB class.” Newton won’t go #2.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
no no, it's cool, he did it for school
i didn’t realize it’s alright to do those things, so long as it’s for an education.
with that in mind, i’ma go rip off the laundromat across the street — nobody gonna tell me i can’t nickel and dime my way to a PhD, dammit.
You know my tuition is pretty high this semester
And I’m going on a study abroad this summer. Anyone wanna stick up a Wells Fargo with me? It’s cool, it’s for school.
Not an issue
No, it isn’t an issue anymore, because the reason for his issues will be gone once drafted. I’m also sure he is the first player in the history of the College football to go where the money is (sarcasm intended). Cheating on tests is bad, but not as bad as say, drunk driving charges; domestic battery, or the whole gammit of issues that other current NFL Players have….by the way, how many current NFL players have a class act education, vs having teachers look the other way because they are on a football scholarship? Point is, none of Newton’s “issues” are violent, and none of them means anything on the NFL field.
I guess next you will be telling me that any college athlete that has ever partied too much shouldn’t be allowed in the National Felons League.
Sometimes I feel like I'm beating a dead horse...
but I see Cam Newton as a Daunte Cullpepper. His accuracy is not there, he has a big arm and a marginal ability to run the ball. His size is nice but it also concerns me because that just means as he gets older he gets slower, and also is more of a concern with knees. He loses his knees he loses his game, just like Daunte. The only difference between Cam and Daunte is we didn’t have to pay Daunte first round money.
by SouthSotaPop on Jan 31, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Correction...
For some reason I was thinking Daunte was a Second…that was our other reach…My bad guys
by SouthSotaPop on Jan 31, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
Daunte a reach?
He had 2 stellar seasons and who knows how long he would’ve been great if not for a truly horrific knee injury.
Culpepper was a perfectly reasonable draft and a productive player. He just feel foul of a bum knee and Colonel Klink’s ego.
by Shawn Gillogly on Feb 1, 2011 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
Daunte was a project...
He was inaccurate and made poor decisions. He was bailed out way too many times his big arm and having Moss and Carter to throw to, and being able to scramble out of the pocket. I’m not saying Daunte was a terrible QB for us, but he wasn’t and never would have been the franchise QB we wished he would have been.
Rubbish
He was a franchise QB, and would’ve been for a long time but for a horrific injury. He had one of the greatest seasons a QB ever had. And that’s not “getting bailed out” by receivers.
by Shawn Gillogly on Feb 1, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
If Newton will be as good as Pep then we need to draft him
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
Avoid Jake Locker like the plauge
Seriously. I watched both NU games and the guy was historically bad. If he can’t sling it vs. a top college secondary, what do you think a pro defense would do to him?
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 31, 2011 12:56 PM CST reply actions
Ha HA
We don’t have a 3rd rounder this year.
Your fantasy football expert since Jerry Rice's rookie year.
If having a bad game against a top defense means you won’t be able to do well at the next level, then lets throw Gabbert off the table too. He went 18/42 (43%) for 1 TD and 1 INT in a 14 point loss that was never that close. You can see that bad performance by watching it here Gabbert was also 40% with 2 INTs the first time they played
Also, lets just forget about Nick Foles from Arizona, who lots of people were high on before he decided to stay in school. Foles went 6/20 (30%) for 28 yards and an INT in their bowl game last year. Four of those passes were completed in the 4th quarter of a 33-0 game and he was even regulated to splitting time with the back-up (Matt Scott) at the start of the 4th.
My point is, making judgments off of one game is short sided at best. Locker may have been historically bad their first game, but that is what Nebraska did to just about every passer they faced the last couple of seasons. To quote the late, great, Steve McNair,“There is only one stat that matters: Did we win?” Both Gabbert and Locker have played Nebraska twice and only Locker has beat them.
Locker actually doesn't win.
Locker didn’t win very many games in college, he had poor stats and a lot more than one bad game. A lot of people were willing to give him a pass because he had low talent around him, but when he had good talent on his side of the ball and on the other side, he fizzled. He’s a project at best now and not a first rounder
When exactly did he fizzle? Was it when he lead his team to 4 straight wins at the end of the season coming back from missing a game with a cracked rib (after playing in 3 games with it)? Was it when he was throwing for 60% (better than any other QB at the game), leading the two longest drives and the only touchdown scoring drive in the Senior bowl for the North? Whats so poor about his stats? He is number two in every major passing category at his school (yards, TDs, comp %, etc) and would be a top 15 all-time school running back if his rushing stats were mixed with the runners both in yards and TDs.
I am not saying he isn’t a bit a project (EVERY QB coming out is a project) but to say he doesn’t have 1st round talent to develop is blatantly closing your eyes to the facts. The only thing killing Locker right now is that some people seem to think that unless you are winning every game and being #1 in every statistical category you are a bum and no one can live up to those expectations. Before the Senior Bowl it was questions why doesn’t he throw for 60% and then he does, so instead of acknowledging he threw for the mark they were asking for, they kill him for the ones he didn’t complete. Feel free to watch the game again (2nd half will be up tonight) and you can see that while not every pass was perfect, only one didn’t hit the WR in the hands which is a pass that needs to be caught in the NFL. If you are an NFL WR, the ball can not hit you in the hands and not be caught.
He fizzled in the Senior Bowl
And to be honest, he played really poorly when I watched him in the bowl game against Nebraska. And in the Senior bowl, he only threw 10 passes! he fumbled twice and repeatedly overlooked wide open receivers. And just cause he leads his school in passing isn’t saying much at all. When I say he fizzled I was talking about the Senior Bowl. He had NFL caliber talent on his side of the ball against NFL caliber defensive players and he wasn’t able to perform. He has terrible mechanics, poor decision making, and relies on his legs during a heavy rush. I’m not saying he can’t be a good NFL QB, I’m just saying there are better options than him that will be available in both the 1st and 2nd round.
Well, I am saying we watched two different games then. Everyone “only” threw 10 passes at the Senior Bowl, yet he was the one who finished with the highest comp % of any of them. You can’t place the blame on Locker for the first fumble since Solder decided not to even touch his defender and instead let him run free to the QB. Don’t care who the QB is, they didn’t stand a chance with the effort Solder put into that play. Check out the replay at the 1:45 mark. Solder barely raises his hands to attempt a block on Sam Acho who goes right across Solder’s face on his way to the QB. The second one, all I can say to that is that like AP, he will learn to carry it up under his arm when he scrambles. Please feel free to use the video to point out these “overlooked wide open receivers” too cause I guarantee you come back with nothing to prove that happened.
You keep saying he wasn’t able to perform (as though it will be true if you say it enough), but the fact is whether you look at the stats or actually watched the game, he outperformed every QB on the North side of the ball, lead the only TD scoring drive as well as the two longest drives in the game for his team. This is hardly the work of a player who “fizzled”.
“Terrible mechanics” where are you getting that? He needs work on his footwork (again, like EVERY QB coming out) but otherwise his throwing mechanics are top notch. He carries the ball above his chest while keeping his eyes down field in his drop backs, plants his foot and throws with a quick release. There is no rebuilding his throwing mechanics like with Tebow, Newton, or Kaepernick.
Tell you what, if you can show definitive evidence of his “poor decision making” I’ll let that go, but again you won’t/can’t because “decision making” is subjective based on your perspective. We don’t know the play calls, how they are designed to attack the defense, or what the coaches are teaching these guys to read with only a weeks worth of work. Its not like he threw a check down or short pass on the 3rd and longs (like just about every other QB in the game), he went for the one guy running a route to get the first. How many times in the past year have you read complaints about “throwing short” on 3rd and 5 or longer? Finally, if you can find me a QB that doesn’t rely on his legs to evade a heavy rush, then I will show you a QB with no legs. There might be QBs with first round grades that could challenge Locker’s arm, speed, athleticism, and intangibles, but there are none in the second or later that come close to the package Locker brings to the table.
Also, if the Vikings do select Gabbert. . .or any other quarterback. . .at #12, it would be the second-highest pick the Vikings have ever spent on a quarterback. Only Daunte Culpepper, who the Vikings took with the 11th overall selection in 1999, would have gone at a higher spot in the draft.
Here’s a link to another story from Scout.com that does a very detailed report on teams that have drafted QB’s in round 1, included some really long droughts for some teams (and no the Vikings are not the team with the longest drought for picking a QB in round 1).
I will also post this as a fanshot.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
I think I would avoid the Top 4 QBs altogether. If Prince is gone, trade down a few spots in the draft and try to pick up a 3rd rounder. Then try to grab Ponder in the second round. I like him the most and he seems to be the most ready. I’m not sold on too many QBs this year. Very lackluster.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 31, 2011 1:28 PM CST reply actions
Man doea anyone remember last year.
Last year everyone was talking about how deep this class of QBs was going to be and how top heavy it was. Now it seems like everyone was exposed and their will be a half dozen 2nd round QBs and none in the first round. Yikes how things have changed.
That’s the power of Luck. And a horrible season by Locker. He cost himself millions by staying one last year
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 31, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
All of this hinges on their combine performances.
I could see a few of this year’s QBs going in round 1 if they nail their Wonderlic test and drills. If our brain trust has successfully identified our QBOTF in this year’s draft then eventually none of us would complain about spending a #12 pick to get him.
exactly, and I do think this is a very deep class of QBs still
Luck not coming out hurt a little. But then 2 others who no one thought would come out at the start of the year DID, so it’s a wash.
I’d say, with proper coaching, any of: Gabbert, Dalton, Newton, Mallet, Ponder, and Kaepernick could become NFL starters.
Oh, and I think Kellen Moore is great. But I can already hear scouts say “Not enough arm strength” and “TOO SHORT.” He’s a Drew Brees and very well could slip into Round 2 because scouts will convince themselves his skills “don’t translate well to the next level.”
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 31, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
God I hate hearing people say that
What does it matter if he can’t throw 90 yards, you don’t do that in the NFL anyways!
To be honest, I have a lot of trust in the FO. Especially now that Childress doesn’t have his hubris mucking things up (see Jackson, Tarvaris and Johnson, Tyrell) we have goot talent evaluators. Especially on the offensive side of the ball, the FO has done an outstanding job scouting talent and I don’t see why that wouldn’t mean they can find a great QB.
LOL Ponder is the 2nd...
Everyone watches the senior bowl, a game that has 1 projected QB that has all the tools to be a FQB, and they see a some what decent Ponder and they Jump on! I would take Gabbert, Cam, Locker, Mallet, and Devlin before Ponder. Mallet has had repeat 30 TD 3,000 yd season and Devlin is crazy accurate. Ponder is… Rex Grossman like lol
Draft a QB! Please God!
by Macdaddy4508 on Jan 31, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
That is truly insulting to compare a Seminole to a Gator
Ponder may be Charlie Ward-light. But then I thought Ward got a shaft job by the NFL scouts too…
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 31, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
You're right... Giving Ponder too much credit.
He couldn’t touch what Grossman accomplished in College. Ponder won’t smell the first round.
Draft a QB! Please God!
by Macdaddy4508 on Jan 31, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
NFL Starter.... When?
Do you think any of them can be coached enough to be ready to rock on the 1st day of the 2012 season?
If not, are they worth a 1st round pick?
If not, who’s going to mentor him until he’s ready?
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Agreed blackjack
None of the draft "experts or analists have overwhelmingly gone on a bandwagon for any QB this year as an out and out sure thing. Ponder is a good option and so is Dalton. Gabby might turn out OK but with Solder, Camari and Pouncy sitting out there I would do all I could to get another high pick and grab 2 of those 3.
What really sucks about the joy of this past season being zapped away from us is now the fact we have a pretty high pick and lose a quality one on that jackoff Moss.
NEVER! Do I want Moss considered for the Ring of Fire. Flipping 3rd rounder at 12 would have us with some viable options to trade up.
What a totally wated season!
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by CitrusFLViking on Jan 31, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Did you actually watch Solder in the Senior Bowl?
Sorry, not interested. he was a debacle.
by Shawn Gillogly on Feb 1, 2011 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
Mark18 made a good point about this
The Senior Bowl is not a good barometer. It’s one game. They are playing in unfamiliar schemes, with unfamiliar teammates, and only one week to soak it all up. The practices, interviews and medical reports are the most important part of Senior Bowl week. I think a stellar performance can help (see Tyson Alualu last year) but I don’t think giving up one sack will cause Solder to fall out of the top 15-20.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
more than 1
And his footwork was a question coming in. Senior Bowl week illustrated he did NOTHING to address that concern.
So add “motivation question” to his character, as far as I’m concerned.
by Shawn Gillogly on Feb 1, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
It looks as though we'll get to see Cam Newton before the combine
According to this Mocking the Draft report, Newton will workout on Feb. 10.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
Man, anyone but him
I just am not a fan of his and his “antics” off the field. I would prefer to have a more humble, less talented version in Joe Webb than the “great Cam”. Just me.
Agreed 100000000%
I can picture trying to be Super Hero Cam like he was in college, and getting destroyed by NFL defenders who are bigger and much stronger. People say Locker looks like a potential bust, but really his only issue is accuracy and footwork, which could be cleared up in time.
But Cam just has “BUST” written all over him. He’s an immature, attention whore.
This is how I can tell
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by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 31, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
looks like daddy needs to pay some bills
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
Apparently
by whoring his son around to various universities and media only workouts
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 31, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Schrager's latest mock draft
Has the Vikes taking Mallet, the 3rd QB off the board.
I could live with that choice.
charlie ward
If I remember correctly Tony Dungy on the Dan Patrick show last year. Said he and Denny were in love with Ward and were going to draft him in the first round.Thought he was the next Steve Young but they couldnt get him to commit to football.Charlie Ward franchise qb Minnesota Vikings.:{ Oh what could have been.
so they took his backup in the 9th round instead
makes sense. not being sarcastic either.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
Lots of people said they were in love with Ward after the fact.
But no one bothered to even take a flyer on him. It was all “his skills don’t translate.”
by Shawn Gillogly on Feb 1, 2011 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
I have a list made
(subject to change)
Gabbert
Locker
Dalton
Mallett
Ponder
Kaepernick
Local high school QB
etc
Ryan Leaf
Cam Newton
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 31, 2011 9:20 PM CST reply actions
I will give you that subject to change...
IMO it goes…:
Gabbert
Mallett
Ponder
Dalton
Stanzi
Kaepernick
PEE WEE football kid
Ryan Leaf
Akili Smith
Cam Newton
by SouthSotaPop on Jan 31, 2011 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Quarterback, schmarterback
The Vikes can draft any quarterback they want, but unless they address the more pressing needs on the O-line and at wideout, they’re just as well off with somebody like Webb or T.Jack who can run their way out of trouble.
Problem
there’s no O-Lineman really worth taking that high
Drafting second round talent in the first round, doesn’t make it first round talent
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 31, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
conundrum
so the question becomes, what’s better:
- taking a ‘1st rd talent’ at #12, or;
- trading down for more ‘2nd rd talent’…??
if we take Gabbert at #12, alright. then we have a pick at #43, then nothing until #105. doesn’t bode well.
as it stands right now (subject to change, obviously), unless someone jumps out at the combine as a must-take-player for us at #12, i’d rather trade down (maybe multiple times) to pick up a late 1st, and multiple 2nd and 3rd rd picks. there’s a lot of talent in those rounds, and we could really reap the benefits.
we didn't have anything in the 3rd round coming in
That can’t be helped. And we have multiple “must have” positions.
Bottom line, if you have an impact player @ 12, you don’t trade down to get a pick for what will be more non-impact players. Starters are worth more than depth.
by Shawn Gillogly on Feb 1, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
...so you're saying anyone who isn't drafted in the 1st doesn't have potential to be a starter or impact player...??
hrrm…
i agree, if there’s an impact player at 12, go for it. but if we’re looking at OL in the 1st, trade down, without question.
if the QB we want falls to 12, get him…if we can get him later on, trade down.
maybe we all get surprised and the go DL or LB at 12. i have no idea. but depending on who is left on the board, it might be better to trade down and pick up a 2nd or 3rd in the process.
mock drafts are for the terminally bored
Seriously, we should base our draft strategy on a mock draft conducted by people who never made a living directly for the NFL? Sorry, but I don’t understand the need for speculation of who the Vikings should pick up based on these mock drafts….none of those people participating in a mock draft have anything on the line. It is a hobby, not a career. Don’t get too uptight over the possibilities, or expect that this holds some sort of Chrystal ball like version of future events.
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