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Sunday Morning Bloody Mary: Vikings Possibly Mixing In Some New Coaches?

Before I get into the meat of today's posting here, let me just as everyone a quick question. . .

Who Dat say dey gonna get embarrassed by a team with a losing record in the first round of the playoffs?

Seriously, wasn't that run to seal that game by Marshawn Lynch something? Nice job of tackling, Tracy Porter. . .honestly, I don't remember someone selling a shot to the chest like that since the last time I watched Kill Bill, Volume 2.

(If you want to skip the build-up, it's about three minutes in.)

So now that we're not talking about on-field matters when it comes to the Vikings, it's time to take a look at what the team is trying to do to make itself better during the off-season. To that end, the Vikings are making changes to the coaching staff, and they've brought in a couple of interesting names to that end.

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The Vikings have brought in two men who were both, as recently as a month ago, the head coaches of other NFL teams. They've brought in former 49ers head coach Mike Singletary as a potential linebackers coach and, in a somewhat shocking development, have talked to former Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels about possibly becoming the team's offensive coordinator.

I'll start with Singletary, if only because he's a bit less of a surprise to me than McDaniels. When head coach Leslie Frazier was elevated from defensive coordinator to head coach with six games left in the 2010 season, the team moved linebackers coach Fred Pagac into the de facto defensive coordinator position. Frazier apparently liked the defensive approach Pagac went with, and I suspect that many Viking fans did as well, so it appears that he will be keeping the job as DC. It's not surprising that Frazier would turn to someone like Singletary, either, as the two of them were teammates with the Chicago Bears back in the 1980s, and Singletary was widely regarded as a very good position coach and a defensive coordinator when he first got his start in the NFL.

The McDaniels thing is a bit of a surprise to me, if for no other reason than for the sort of offensive system that he employs. McDaniels' offenses have been known as more of a spread-type of system, which might seem to be an issue for a team that employs one of the top running backs in the National Football League, doesn't have a bevy of great wide receivers, and has issues at the quarterback position and along the offensive line. McDaniels is known as a quarterback guy, as evidenced by his work with current Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel when both were with the New England Patriots, as well as his work with Kyle Orton and (to a lesser extent) Tim Tebow in Denver. As things stand today, the only quarterback that the Vikings currently employ is Joe Webb, who has a ton of physical talent but is still also incredibly raw. . .sort of a "poor man's Tebow," depending on who you talk to.

To be honest, I think that having guys like Singletary and McDaniels on a team's coaching staff would be nothing but helpful for the Vikings. Yes, both of those guys had a taste of what it was like to have the real, ultimate power of being an NFL head coach, but it was also obvious from watching both of them operate in that capacity that they were both in well over their heads. Fortunately, they aren't the first people to find themselves facing that reality. The NFL has plenty of examples of guys that were great coordinators that ranged anywhere from "okay" to "terrible" when given the title of head coach. Guys like Dom Capers (who has always been a very good defensive mind, but has failed at three different NFL head coaching stops), Wade Phillips, Charlie Weis, and others are all far better suited to be coordinators than they are to be head coaches. Still others, such as Bill Belichick, had to fall on their face as a head coach once and spend more time as a coordinator before moving on to success as head coaches.

Regardless of whether or not Singletary and McDaniels fall under the latter category, they would both be quite good in the capacity that the Vikings would be asking them to serve in. Offensively, the Vikings are set to undergo some growing pains no matter what, due largely to age and inconsistency on the offensive line and uncertainty at quarterback, but if this staff can get enough stability up front to supplement the talent they have at the skill positions with Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, and Sidney Rice (should he re-sign) and get themselves a quarterback that they feel comfortable with. . .whether that's Webb or someone that isn't yet in Minnesota. . .it may make things a bit less painful going forward. For Singletary, if he can focus on just the linebacking corps and not have to worry too terribly much about game planning or roster management or anything like that, he could really bring something good to the staff as well.

Nothing has been finalized with either man yet, though I expect Singletary to be part of the staff sooner rather than later, but I'm quite excited at the prospect of this team adding both of them going forward. Part of the hold-up with McDaniels probably has to do with whether or not current offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell will be staying on in a lesser capacity (specifically quarterback coach) or if he'll just be let go completely. From the sounds of it, however, Frazier hasn't totally embraced Bevell's West Coast system, so a change could definitely be in the offing there as well.

Obviously, we'll be keeping an eye on this situation as it develops. Hopefully there will be some news on this front sooner rather than later.

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We didn't even sniff the playoffs.

I’m not going to laugh at any team that made it.

by PurplePeopleEaters on Jan 9, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

I will

Largely because the Saints players obviously had the same thought process that the Saints fans and the media had yesterday.

That the great, almighty, and powerful Saints were just going to roll into Seattle, toss their helmets out on the field, and the Seahawks would just give up because, by Gawd, those are the New Orleans Saints.

The good news? We shouldn’t have to listen to that fan base troll this site all off-season in light of that little meltdown.

Who Dat? Two Dat? Screw Dat!

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by Christopher Gates on Jan 9, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I love how on the last play of the game when Hasselbeck was kneeling down, a Saint’s D-lineman shoved a Seachicken O-lineman for no reason. Truly a classy, I mean classless team on defense.
Lynch channeling his inner Peterson was epic!!! I guess the Saints D forgot to take out Hasselbeck’s ankles, Sharper forgot how to tackle and run as well, next time the D will have to remember to play dirty like the NFCCG last year.

by solafide on Jan 9, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to take anything from Lynch

But that play was one of the worst defensive displays I’ve ever seen.

On a related note, you think the Bills wish he had ever run like that for them?

by Cobra312004 on Jan 9, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

true dat!! i mean that's true...

amazing how hungry some players are that are good like Lynch but have never had a chance at the playoffs!

by solafide on Jan 9, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy cow! Lynch must have had at least two hit and runs on that play alone!

He had plenty of practice at that during his Buffalo days.

That aside, it was an awesome play — particularly for someone who thinks the Saints were gifted last year’s NFC Championship.

by kcskol on Jan 9, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Lynch must have had at least two 'hit and runs' on that play!

That aside, it was good to see the Saints go down. They were gifted the NFC Championship by a bunch of cheap shots, the refs, an inexplicable Vikings turnover machine and the Vikings version of “The 12th man.”

by kcskol on Jan 9, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

It was the worst defensive display you've seen

 because Lynch made them look terrible. He really should have been taken down several times there.

by Frost on Jan 9, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm rooting for Kansas City

cause I like the underdog

I’m a fan of Flacco, Birk of course, and Uriah Heap, so who gives a crap as long as the Packers get crushed later!

by abba7 on Jan 9, 2011 12:17 PM CST reply actions  

i strolled over to the Saints blog

and i could not stop laughing, it made our entire season seem a little better. But seriously, tracy porter deserves a lot of credit, the seahawks couldn’t have won without his contributions. Same goes for you sharper.

by muffin man on Jan 9, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

Its karma the saints deserve everything that they got and your right muffin it made our season just a little better SCEW DAT!!!!

by cali viking on Jan 9, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

If McD is hired, I hope Bev stays on as QB coach to learn from him

If McD does well, it will only be a matter of time before he is offered another head job so having another guy around that could take over would be wise.

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

by NMVike on Jan 9, 2011 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

For NMVIKE

Good post. Even better point. Would be good for tean AND Bevell.

by kagey on Jan 9, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

There are lots of small, fast WRs out there

But somebody has to get the ball to them. If Frasier is looking to install some variation of a spread offense, then he better get a very nimble QB, like Locker or Newton. Problem is, the mock drafts are starting to show a run on QBs.

It might be better in the short run to draft a DE, then a big OT, and then pick up QB prospects later in the draft. Then get somebody like Orton or Hill to manage the offense while the young studs learn how to play quarterback. Gotta build from the line outwards. Gotta give your team more time, and take time away from the opponent.

by jimbo55403 on Jan 9, 2011 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

Why do we need a DE?

Even losing Edwards, we have Robison and Griffen in the fold to replace him. I don’t think we need to draft a DE in the first round (unless some blue chipper drops unexpectedly and is the best player available).

by Cobra312004 on Jan 9, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

How is Webb not nimble?

The guy we have would be considered nimble if he lived in a smaller man’s body. As it is, he’s probably the best athlete on the field when he plays.

by kcskol on Jan 9, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Mocks always show a run on QBs

Clausen was mocked as not getting past the Jags last season.

by Frost on Jan 9, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

So if an NFL head coach gets fired in the second year of a five year contract, can he take a coordinator job and still get the remaining money from the HC contract? Or does taking any NFL coaching job let the former team off the hook for the contract?

by Bodysuit Man on Jan 9, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Depends on the individual contract and if there's a buyout or not.

Usually the coach gets paid by the new team but any difference in salary is made up by the former team. For example if a coach was getting 5 million and got fired, then got hired by another team for 3 million than the old team would still have to pay 2 million. That’s how it generally works but buyouts can alter the amount that a former team is on the hook for.

by CanadianViking on Jan 9, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

This.

Though most contracts these days contain clauses making the fired coach responsible for mitigating damages by actively searching for work.

California Golden Blogs! Excuse me. I have to go return some videotapes.

by Maisbikkja on Jan 9, 2011 2:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Good point.

I wonder if that is a result of so many coaches collecting two paychecks by working as TV analysts for a couple of years instead of looking for a new coaching job until their old contract expires.

by CanadianViking on Jan 9, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I wondered about this as well

Living in Denver I get the joys of hearing about how the Broncos will be on the hook 4 3 head coach salaries this coming season (still paying Shannahan and McDaniels on top of whoever they hire) so they may be in a bind financially when it comes time to hire the new HC.
 Also, I think McDaniels was a horrible HC but when it came to the OC side of things, he did a pretty decent job. Singletary had an uphill battle from the get go as he inherited a horrible team.

by PurpleSpectre on Jan 9, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

McDaniels

I think Singletary is gonna be hired and I think he will be a great addition. He was a great LB coach before and adding a guy like him will help our entire defense. There are few alive today that know as much about the position as he does.

McDaniels would be an interesting choice. I think his fire would be an interesting addition to balance Frazier’s Dungy-Stoicism. McDaniels at OC and Bevell at QB coach would give the Vikings a great QB development machine. If we want someone to turn Webb into Michael Vick, McDaniels is the guy we need running this offense. And for those who have given up on Webb already, they can develop anyone we would draft as well. I don’t have much faith in McDaniels as a head coach (not a lot as a person either). But as a QB developer, his track record does speak for itself.

by Cobra312004 on Jan 9, 2011 2:45 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

At least they made the playoffs...

… and a year is too long to hold a grudge. How about finally turning over that new leaf you keep talking about?

by PurpleJesus on Jan 9, 2011 7:45 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Leaf is already turned over, thanks

I’m being much nicer and more gracious to that team than I have any reason to be.

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by Christopher Gates on Jan 9, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't appear to be

…and disagree on the “nicer than I have any reason to be”. How about setting an example for the rest of the bloggers? Every team’s sites have bad apples, just not at the top.

by PurpleJesus on Jan 9, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

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