Report: Darrell Bevell and Brian Murphy "Free To Search For Other Jobs"
by Christopher Gates on Jan 9, 2011 10:13 PM CST
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Leslie Frazier's first staff remains a work in progress, but the Minnesota Vikings' coach has told two incumbent coordinators they're free to look for other jobs.Frazier said on Sunday night he has delivered a clear message to offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell and special-teams coordinator Brian Murphy -- "Don't wait for me" -- as the search continues for coaches who would replace them.
"We're trying to get some things done," Frazier said as he left an interview at KSTP-TV's studio. "We'll make some decisions here real soon."
This, presumably, paves the way for Josh McDaniels to become the offensive coordinator for the Vikings. There haven't been any other reports of Frazier or the Vikings interviewing any other folks for the position.
I'm not sure if these moves for Frazier are particularly unusual or not. As Pelissero points out in the article, you would expect a guy coming in from the outside to completely clean house and start over from scratch, but Frazier had a working relationship with everyone on the current Vikings' staff, as pretty much everyone was hired by Brad Childress at around the same time (except for Murphy, who was brought on as special teams coach a couple of years ago). Frazier has already let a few coaches go in offensive line coach Pat Morris, assistant offensive line coach Jim Hueber, and quarterbacks coach Kevin Rogers.
It appears that Fred Pagac is safe as defensive coordinator, and Karl Dunbar had damn well better be safe as the defensive line coach, since he's pretty much the best in the business at what he does. Outside of that, it doesn't appear that anyone is truly "safe," and the end result could be a lot of turnover from someone that was hired "in-house." That said, if McDaniels and Singletary get on board. . .and it looks more and more like that will be the case. . .I think he's building a darn fine staff so far. What do you folks think?
By the way, if you want to watch the interview with Frazier where he makes these statements, the interview will air on KSTP at 10:45 PM.
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Im extremely happy at the thought of McDaniels and Singletary on this team.
Now if only we could get Tony Dungy to mentor all of them… jk
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your entire rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Percy Harvin My Fav! on Jan 9, 2011 10:45 PM CST reply actions
Hear hear.
In some ways he is already mentoring Lez. Perhaps Lez can force him to be more pro-active.
Agreed
McDaniels and Singletary would be great addtions.
by TexasViking on Jan 10, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
The only negative with MickyD...
is that more and more reports are developing that Joshy would want to bring in Orton. Earlier rumors were packaging a deal for Tebow. I mean… WHY WON’T WE EVER DRAFT OUR FRANCHISE!!! Please god, figure out a way to get Blaine Gabbert. But if Josh McDaniels could further mold Tebow; that could be very interesting.
...add #4 to the mix and see what you get... Championship.
by Macdaddy4508 on Jan 10, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
I think Orton for a stopgap makes perfect sense.
The only better option I see is trading for Kolb.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
for now, maybe
we’ll see what happens later on. I don’t think they can keep him after shopping him.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
Well, get Orton...
And develop Webb. Or develop our rookie draft. Or both.
by KJSegall on Jan 10, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry!
Never thought I’d say this, but I like the idea of Kyle Orton with the Vikes. He played pretty well for a team with few good receivers and a crap rushing attack. I like Webb, but think he should be brought along slowly so we don’t make the same mistake as we did with TJack. Plus, it would be interesting to see if the revenge factor against the Bears come into play.
I also want to see what Rhett Bomar can do. He certainly looked like a world beater at Oklahoma until his little “work absences” came up.
I have no idea what we're yelling about!
Well, we need a rental.
Someone to start while we develop whoever our potential QBOTF is. Right now, I’d say top spots for that are Orton/ Kolb/ McNabb, and out of those three I find Orton to be the best shot.
i almost threw up
don’t want Gabbert. Saw him in the bowl game. Looked OK for the most part, but had one of the ugliest picks i’ve ever seen and it cost Mizzu the game. Not a huge fan.
uglier than Brett to end 09?
I think not
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
we didn't lose on brett's pick
we lost the opportunity to kick a LONG FG for the win. Was it pretty ugly? yes, but there were a LOT of other people who screwed up before he did.
I'm not surprised
Frazier was not obligated to keep any of the Childress hires on board. It’s obvious by the moves he has made and the moves he is about to make, that Frazier felt the way many of us did about the various woes that plagued the team this year.
Lack of imagination on offense, lack of discipline and odd personnel groupings on special teams (Everson Griffen on punt and KO, really?), and inability to protect the QB were major problems and Frazier is addressing each of them.
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
Agreed
The Pioneer Press was saying it was surprising to let Murphy walk after the improvement they showed when he took over. What they are forgetting is that I could have taken over that job and done better (you recall we allowed 7 special teams TD’s in 08). They still aren’t a strong unit and clearly Frazier thinks he can find someone better (and he is right btw).
The O-line coaches needed to go obviously. They took a unit that had virtually no change in personnel and managed to have them regress as a whole. Not talking about injuries late this year, I’m talking about how the line seemed to get progressively worse from the beginning of 09 until mid 10 when the injuries started happening.
Frazier has said that the defensive side of the ball will not change unless they leave for better jobs. Obviously he had to promote Pagac to fill his old spot and will be hiring Singletary to replace him, but he has said that everyone else is safe. Not surprising since he already chose all of those guys when he took over as DC.
Now McDaniels is said to be interested in the Miami OC job as well, which I find a little frightening. I am really starting to get excited about what Josh could do with Harvin, Rice and Peterson in his offense. Hopefully that gets done soon.
Really?
(About MckieD looking at Miami)- you’d have to think our offense would be far more tempting to play with to an OC than Miami’s. If it were a team that had a quarterback then I’d see perhaps the temptation, but Miami’s QB situation isn’t exactly a lot better than ours.
Miami has Braylon Edwards
Who would have some familiarity with a McD offense.
They have Brandon Marshall and the two fought constantly.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I know I don't get it either
But that’s what some places were saying. Could be just speculation though.
by Cobra312004 on Jan 10, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
...and can't really stand McD....
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 10, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
sounds good to me
hopefully Singletary can bring back the toughness to this defense and Mcdaniels can help with the playcalling that was severely lacking during the childress era.
by 84TheGreatestViking on Jan 9, 2011 10:48 PM CST reply actions
I’m glad there is going to be a large turnover on the coaching staff. This needs to be followed by a larger turnover on the roster as well. Anyone who hasn’t done their job at a championship level needs to be gone. That is the reason these guys are getting better than surgeons after all.
Teams that go 6-10 shouldn’t have many safe jobs imo.
Agree. Especially for a team that hasn't been dead last in the Div in 20 years
No one should feel safe. I think it’s good timing for the turnover too. Peterson is still primed, harvin, rice are in their prime. I think getting them to play in the same system taht isn’t taking advantage of their skill sets is damn and starting over on that front is a good idea. I like the fact that we didn’t blow up the D yet too(at least the Coaches anyways – Madieu has to go among others). That D, even w/ all the injuries is still a force in this league. I think if we can spark the O, we could be much improved next year and I’m not the type of fan to say that we’re “rebuilding”. I hate that crap. We have been “competing” year after year(some realistic, some years not) but i don’t any reason we can’t turn the ship around in one offseason. The CBA has to get done ASAP so there is no work stoppage. That would KILL our team, esp. the development of a new QB.
That would kill everything
With unemployment at an all time high, I don’t see the public having much patience for billionaires fighting over salaries with millionaires. A work stoppage could be quite damaging for this league all around.
by Cobra312004 on Jan 10, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
if it is Mc daniels
I hope the character issues are gone
A bird in the hand is worth about 10.99 at KFC and makes me lick my chops
Yummy!!!!!
It didn't stop Bellichek from being a jerk
But it did teach him ‘enough’ humility to wait until he won to show that side again.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough.
But that’s part of it, isn’t it? Knowing when you can act like a jerk and when you can’t? For all his assholeness- and it can be EPIC- you really can’t deny his skills as a HC. Hell, he sure as s*** hosed us this year, didn’t he? (I mean with the Moss trade, not so much the game- but that could be a valid point, too.) I am neither a Pats nor a Bellichick fan, but damn, he’s a good HC. He just waited till he had the backing of rings to act as he pleased- and again, sometimes that’s all just a part of it.
yes, but he wasn't a winner with Cleveland
and he was a jerk then too. It took losing to teach him humility.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 11, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like a move away from the West Coast Offense
by the coaches involved – I’m guessing. Also saves Mr. Wilf some money if Singletary is still being paid by the 49ers and McDaniels by the Broncos.
Matt Birk sure looked solid today for the Ravens. Another brilliant Childress move there.
If Leslie goes back to his Bear roots...
we’ll see a power running game mixed with a vertical passing game. None of this 5 yard out sideline to sideline crap. Tired of it. Bring in a new scheme!
To Childress' credit,
Birk left on his own. That wasn’t a Childress move.
But...
I think Birk’s dislike of Childress was a factor in him deciding to leave.
I AM VIKING, HEAR ME ROAR!!!
wrong
Birk left specifically because of the animosity between himself and Klink. The Vikes even offered more money.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Epic Fail for Chilly
Matty Birk WANTED TO STAY in Minny, right up til the last month or so, but they wouldn’t work the deal with him until it was too late. By then he had explored his options and took his bag of formidable mojo elsewhere. I remember this situation real well, it didn’t sit very well with me when it went down. Birk was treated with disrespect and disregard by Chilly, and between that and waiting til the last minute to renew his contract, resulted in a huge loss for the Vikings.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
1. How real is Singeltory story?
2. Josh McDaniels should be a great addition
3. What about ego-clashes with 3 HCs on a team with he real HC being least experienced?Don’t want another Randy Moss situation where McD and MikeS think they are bigger and better than Lez.
I don't see that being a problem...
Especially for Singletary, he’s a class act and good friends with Leslie
I guess I could see that happening with Josh McDaniels, but I think he’ll know his place, especially since he’s something like 20 years Leslie’s junior. He’s not going to help his image if he starts clashing with the head coach when he’s an OC.
by Loki The Viking God on Jan 10, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
Ego’s will not be a problem. They very rarely are in this kind of situation. These guys know that the only way they get a second shot at a HC job is to kick ass at their jobs again, which is how they got their the first time.
If McDaniels can become a great OC again and not create problems, he’ll be back as a head coach somewhere sooner than later. If he thinks he should be in charge and starts causing internal problems and gets fired, he will make it that much harder for himself to climb back.
Well...
Look how well Moss followed that logic. The Bengals probably don’t even want him at this point. Not saying the same thing will happen- hopefully not, obviously. Sometimes a slap in the face will wake you up and shut your ego down. Sometimes, it’s just a part of your psyche, and it never really goes away. Again, the fact that both Moss and McDaniels were a part of Bellichick’s crew could be a concern- he seems to have a magic touch when it comes to controlling people. While Moss was a minor headache in New England prior to his trade, it was nothing compared to the circus act he became immediately afterwards in Minnesota.
However- that said, I feel that Frazier is a smart and experienced man. I’m sure his interviews with McDaniels were largely designed in part to not only see if the offense he wanted to run fit with Frazier’s plan for the team, but also to judge whether or not McDaniels would accept taking orders and not cause problems or power struggles. For all of Chilly’s psych degree experience, he never really seemed able to keep control or judge how to handle people- and which people he just wouldn’t be able to handle.
Moss isn't a coach
It’s completely irrelevant. It’s not even apples and oranges because those are more similar. It’s like comparing apples and space ships.
to judge whether or not McDaniels would accept taking orders and not cause problems or power struggles.
What power struggle could there possibly be? Frazier is his boss (not to mention, which side do you think the players will take?). If he doesn’t do his job, he will get fired. That’s all there is to it. That’s like a CEO worrying about there being a power struggle with the new district manager he hired.
Being a great offensive coordinator was what got McDaniels his first head coaching job. It will be what gets him his second one too. He knows that, Frazier knows that and all his potential employers know it.
by Cobra312004 on Jan 10, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
It's relevant
In as much as they are both people. I meant it in a general sense- some humans learn lessons in humility, some never do. And there could theoretically be a power struggle for a season, if McDaniels starts ignoring Frazier and tries to hijack the offense. You’re right in that it won’t work, but it would cause yet another much uneeded distraction till Frazier gets sick of it and fires him.
Frazier can just sick Singletary on him if he acts like a jerk : )
Frazier and Singletary’s friendship and contrasting personalities could work very well as a team. Frazier can be the calm and collected leader and occasionally use Singletary’s crazy-pants style to make a point without getting personally involved.
by CanadianViking on Jan 11, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
As long as McDaniels
realizes he has the best overall running back in the league, I’ll be fine with him
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on Jan 10, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
singletary is a great Assist. coach
he was just a terrible head coach. He can really improve a vikings defense with alot of talent that took a huge step back this season.
everyone here seems to love mcdaniels so I hope you are all right. I dont’ like the guy. I don’t think he had as much to do with developing his qb’s as others do. cassel sat on the bench behind brady and when he came in he had a solid team around him and the influence of belecheck. orton fizzled after a great start both last year and this. and the fact that he drafted tebow in the first round calls his judgement into question. I don’t like the guy at all.
Um
Cassel took the Chiefs from 4-12 to 10-6 and a division title this year. It’s not just the Patriots system that made him look good, he’s actually good. And don’t forget, Cassel didn’t even start a single game in college. Someone developed him and McDaniels was the QB’s coach the entire time Cassel was there so he deserves some credit.
Orton may have fizzled some the last two years, but it doesn’t change what he did this year without Brandon Marshall’s help. He had worse WR’s than the Vikings and still put up fantastic numbers.
I give McDaniels some credit for both of those things, as well as Tebow’s solid appearances at the end of the season.
Orton didn't fizzle
he was forced to throw more and more because the Denver defense and running game were hopeless.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
This a thousand times over.
Orton and McDaniels help this team rebuild on the fly.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I agree
I would like to see us bring in Orton if the price is right. Obviously a 2nd round pick is not the right price but if their new coach wants to draft his own guy, the price could drop.
by Cobra312004 on Jan 10, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
I just looked at the Chiefs SBNation website...
And it says they’re strongly considering Denver’s OC McCoy as opposed to Josh McDaniels – Not sure if that holds any water
by Loki The Viking God on Jan 10, 2011 8:23 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, but there is hard feelings between them
All started with that…and running up the score. That’s why they won’t being him in. Haley runs the show there with Pioli.
by PurpleJesus on Jan 10, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, sorry. Yes, I understand your point now.
I was still thinking in the context of the Vikings and thinking that you were offended by McDaniels not shaking Haley’s hand. I get it now.
Hearing something about Chris Palmer as a possibility
Don’t know a thing about him but here is his Wiki – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Palmer_%28American_football%29
I think it is a classy move by Frazier actually
He gives these men an opportunity to look for a job now while there are some openings.
He may still keep them but since he is not sure, he tells them to feel free to look around.
Nice gesture rather than letting them just wait around and then telling them that they no longer are needed.
That is all that it is to me.
I think it's a sign that they are going to be getting demotions or nothing at all
Still a classy move on Frazier’s part.
Glad to see both go.
Our Coverage Units have been giving up TDs by the boatload for years. That’s a definitely fix. We had good return units. But still, it’s not like we scored as many ST points as we gave up.
And the bottom line is we need an OC who’s willing to pound the rock. Not that he’s not inflexible enough to throw when the pass is there, but Bevell is too one-dimensional. No commitment to the run, and not committed to the screen game. Too many times people have known exactly what we would do.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions
What a strange concept...
People who tailor offenses to fit their (in our case) incredible talent at the skill positions. Whodathunkit?
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 10, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions
I may not like ESPN announcers a whole lot
save one. Jaworski, and he’s right when he says the NFL is a match-up driven league. But we haven’t used our talent to produce match-up advantages as we ought to have under Klink.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
here's what I think
McDaniels was a failed head coach. He had no plan of action, no direction for the team, and made countless personnel decisions that were questionable to say the least. But guess what? None of that is in the job description of an offensive coordinator. He got crazy numbers out of a limited QBs in Orton and Cassel, put Brandon Lloyd in a position to resurrect his career, and was part of the greatest offense in the history of the game. He has his credentials as an OC. I’ve also read an idea of someone on these posts about hiring Tom Cable as the o-line coach. Another example of a failed HC with impressive ability as an OC/position coach. What’d make me weary of McDaniels is his potential usage of AP, but it’s definitely an interesting possibility.
Who said life was fair?
When I find that person I'll beat the hell out of him
In Cable's case, I don't even think he failed
8-8 with the mess that was the Raiders coming into this season? Sweeping the AFC West? I think he did a decent job with what he had. It’s just more proof of Al Davis’ paranoid delusions he’s out of work.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
7 or 8 coaches in as many years=
Bipolar owner.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 10, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Cable is nuts...
I mean, let’s not forget he did punch an assistant of his in the face. I agree- I was more impressed with his body of work this year and was surprised that after all this time, NOW he was fired. But that said, the first point is still a blemish on his record to me.
no argument
but if you kept him through that then firing him now was stupid.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 10, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, very agreed.
I’m not saying the Raiders were smart- dumbest move they’ve made since JaMarcus. That said, I was referencing the idea of US getting him. Not sure I’d want that guy around.
agreed...also, let's not forget
his team ran the ball ALL OVER teams. I think AP would like to have that guy around.
Hate it!
McDaniels is an overrated arrogant punk who doesn’t think his crap stinks!
Enough said!
Character Guy? Hell NO!
Didn’t Dungy teach you anything Frazier? I guess not if frazier makes this move!
Brett Favre is the Greatest QB in NFL History, Bar None!
Brett Favre will be back in 2011, Guaranteed!
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed!
Well...
as some of us have commented above, perhaps being fired brought his ego more down to earth. Not saying you’re wrong- you well could be proven right, although I do have to say I hope you’re wrong in case we do get him, since that would be bad for the Vikes. :P
Certainly, his actions in Denver showed that you’re right- at least for that period of his career. But I still say let’s have faith in Frazier- if he interviewed him, hopefully he got a feel for how he’s going to act as our OC and then decide accordingly.
What did McDaniels do to Favre?
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jan 10, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Funny that a Favre fan is questioning another person’s character…
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
by mjschaefer on Jan 10, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
McDaniels hasn't SEXTed/Favred a Maxim model yet,
So he does still have one major character flaw!
by solafide on Jan 10, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Aw, come on guys.
Look- R4F is making a general post here that has nothing to do with Favre. It’s no secret that his Favre-o-phill-ness (that was an epic word combo, you’re welcome) drove me nuts at times, but that said, he’s making a very valid point here regarding the Vikings. He’s a member of this site and his opinions are perfectly welcome. Just because he can go on the occasional rant about Favre (maybe more than occasional) doesn’t mean we need to constantly burn him when he says something else. At that point, rather than trying to encourage him to be more constructive or welcome him to other conversations, we simply turn into bullies taunting the guy- there’s simply no place nor point for that.
Thank you.
Totally agree with you there. I have seen a recent improvement in the reduction of Favre obsession in his comments, he seems to be making valid points. If we just tear him down, he’ll just revert to saying nothing but Favre stuff.
I say make it a VERY short contract if we do sign Mcdaniels. 2-3 years.
Here's the thing with McDaniels
He has spent most of his NFL career learning to be a head coach from the worst example imaginable. It’s like learning to throw from Brett Favre. If any other QB attempted the kind of throws Brett made on a regular basis, they would have been dumped out of the league a long time ago.
Following his method and demeanor and mannerisms (down to the sweatshirts) is not going to get the same results. Why? Because, like Favre, it only works for him. BB is a freaking genius so he can get away with things that have cost dozens of coaches their jobs (like taping the other team in practice?).
McDaniels made the mistake of trying to copy a genius by repeating what he did without having the results/brains to back it all up.
I don’t really believe he is arrogant and I don’t really think he was doing all of those things in Denver because they were the right moves. I think he was living by the What Would Bill Do? credo and it didn’t work. I think the next time he gets a head coaching job he will just be himself and be much more successful.
by Cobra312004 on Jan 11, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
how in the world
does his character affect your opinion of people? id have thought youd be pretty immune to cheating by now.
by Glenn'sYank13 on Jan 11, 2011 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
Bring Tice back as OL coach
Look what he did with the pathetic Bears OL
No problem w/ Bevell leaving...
But I haven’t seen any major issue with the special teams to warrant the firing of the coordinator…guess there was just a difference in philosophy.
I'm still a Minnesotan at heart...
Or
Our special teams sucked. We’ve given up 3 returns for TD’s in the last 2 years under Murphy, despite dedicating more roster spots to special teams players after the 2008 debacle (for which, Murphy was still a ST assistant, so it’s not like he was clean in that either). Only the Chargers and Steelers have allowed more over the last two years.
by Cobra312004 on Jan 11, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly, we promoted an assistant to the worst disaster in history
and we improved marginally with massive investment.
That’s insufficient return. Pun intended.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 11, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like Frazier might get even busier -
According to a report in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, defensive line coach Karl Dunbar has been offered the same position with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Dunbar, who was hired by Brad Childress in Minnesota in 2006, is coming out of contract. He has six years of experience in the NFL, having coach one season with the Chicago Bears in 2004.
now that would hurt...
but why make a lateral move?
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 11, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Not necessarily.
The Bucs had a relatively easy schedule this year. I’m not saying they’re not a team on the rise, and that Freeman’s not turning into a monster. And that last game against the Saints was impressive- of course, the Saints then went to lose to the damn Seahawks (crap, the one freaking time I rooted for the Saints… now the NFL will never change the rules to keep 7-9 teams out of the playoffs), so even that’s questionable. But to suggest that they are a lot closer to playoff contention than we are can be a misnomer- one decent offseason of moves, and we’ll be the better team again.
No the Bucs are NOT closer to the playoffs.
The Vikes get an easier schedule next season, and aren’t that removed from the team that went to the NFC Championship game. When has Tampa Bay (which gets a much harder schedule next season) last been to the playoffs?
They’re not surprising anyone next season, either.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 11, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
I am becoming concerned....
that spots have not been filled yet. If they don’t, now what do you tell these two? “Just kidding, you can stay.”?
Keep them or fire them, not something in between.
It's being upfront.
He informed them, essentially, that there is competition for their jobs, that he’s interviewing other people. Rather than force them to sit on their hands and sweat it out, he’s allowing them to at least ‘return the favor’, in a sense, and be interviewed by others, in turn. I find it a very classy and honest move. Of course, it all partly lies in the manner of delivery- if Frazier simply explained reality to them and was straightforward about it, they’ll probably at least appreciate that. If he just sent out a memo, THEN they might be a little ticked off.
It's WAAY too early to be concerned about positions being filled.
After all, for some teams, it’s still tampering to consider certain candidates.
by Shawn Gillogly on Jan 11, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting...
hopefuly this means we’re getting close on McDaniels. I also like Singletary as LB coach, I feel like he might wait and see if he gets any Defensive Coordinator offers. LB coach is a long ways to fall.
I’m a little surprised that we’re letting go of the special teams coach. Most games seemed ok this year.
good move
Getting a new special teams co-ordinator is a no brainer since the Vikes were terrible in this department. Also have to agree that the OC should go to based on the fact that he seemed hell bent on creating a pass happy offensive scheme depsite the fact that he had the best RB in the game. Personally, I’d like to see Adrian & Toby in the same backfield at the same time and alternate touches. Back to the old school smash mouth football with a decent passing game thrown in to compliment it. Some say it’s outdated, but I think with a solid running attack, both of these guys could flourish. Of course, it all depends on getting an OL that can clear the path for these two gifted runners. At the very least, this kind of game plan would allow the Vikings to control the clock. Probably won’t happen but it sure would be fun to watch AD & TG together. Kinda reminds me of Larry Czonka, Jim Kick, & Mercury Morris where all three had over 1,000 yds rushing each playing a 14 game season while the Dolphins had a great passing attack as well in Bob Greise & Paul Warfield. It can be done!
by jjlovesfootball on Jan 12, 2011 1:50 PM CST reply actions
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