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Gotta Love a Good Rivalry

Growing up in Minnesota, being a Vikings fan was as ingrained in me as knowing that eating lutefisk would put hair on your chest (surprisingly, not a real selling point with little girls). And, hand-in-hand with learning to cheer for the Vikings, you learn to dislike the Packers. This dislike can fall anywhere in a range from mild disdain to all-out abhorrence, but, under no circumstances would a self-respecting Vikings fan cheer for the Packers. The flip version is probably true for kids who grew up cheering for the Packers, learning at a young age that you don't ever cheer for the Vikings. Thus we keep going a great NFL rivalry.

There was a time when having to live with the fact that the Minnesota Vikings' divisional rivals, the Green Bay Packers, had won a Super Bowl seemed like the worst thing in the world--that was 1997.

In 1997 when the Packers won Super Bowl XXXI, it felt like the sports equivalent of some annoying know-it-all finally being right and I knew there would be no living with the Packers fans after that. Led by a gunslinger quarterback from Mississippi named Brett Favre, the Packers beat the New England Patriots 35-21. As a result, my friend Jonathan wore foam cheese on his head and I came to really dislike The Favre. I remember it being tough to endure The Favre's cameo appearance in There's Something About Mary.

The evolution of an attitude after the jump.

Star-divide

But life is funny and years later I found myself cheering for that self-same Brett Favre as he lead the Vikings successfully in 2009 and miserably in 2010. The 2010 Vikings' season was the kind of crazy badness that sounds like the plot of a cheap, trashy novel, and it culminated in the Vikings' toughest divisional rival going to the Super Bowl--again.

However, when the Aaron Rodgers-led Packers won the Super Bowl on February 6, 2011, it wasn't the worst thing I had to endure that particular day. Earlier in the day I attended my beloved uncle's funeral and that genuine loss put the Packers' Super Bowl win in a different perspective than their win in 1997 had been--something other than life and death.

Steeped in Vikings football day in and day out, I tended to forget that I was getting riled up over something that, as wonderful as it is, is simply a preference regarding sports entertainment. That being the case, having a strong divisional opponent and a rich tradition of rivalry simply makes for good entertainment because it adds interest and drama.

Not only does a rivalry make for better entertainment, but a stronger rival makes for a better challenge and a better NFC North division. In 2008 the Vikings were at the top of the NFC North (10-6) but that didn't get them a lot of respect because the division was weak. That was the year the Detroit Lions achieved the dubious perfection of a 0-16 season. The Chicago Bears had a 9-7 record, and Green Bay finished 6-10. The Vikings went on to lose to the Philadelphia Eagles in the Wildcard round of the playoffs. But, a year later in 2009, three of the four NFC North teams improved on their 2008 performance (Chicago fell to 7-9) and the Vikings managed a deep playoff run. The stronger the NFC North is, the more winning against divisional opponents takes on the feeling of "if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere."

A worthy foe can actually be an invaluable ally because worthy foes expose weaknesses and force opponents to always bring their A-game. Sherlock Holmes was invigorated (sans cocaine) by trying to outwit the diabolical genius of Professor Moriarty. John Lennon and Paul McCartney's competitive song-writing created some of the most iconic songs of the 1960s and reshaped rock music. The Cold War between the United States and the then U.S.S.R. led to the scientific advancements that ushered in the space program.

In this past year we've witnessed how much the rivalry between the Vikings and Packers can be a catalyst for needed change. While it's likely that Brad Childress' days as the Vikings head coach were already numbered in 2010 after the Randy Moss debacle, it was losing to the Green Bay Packers 31-3 in the Metrodome that prompted his immediate firing. This season, I'm willing to speculate that the prospect of seeing Donovan McNabb under-throw screen passes at home against the Packers may have ushered in the Christian Ponder era.

And, the Packers (via rivalry) may even inadvertently play a small role in helping the Vikings get a stadium. Minnesota's Twin Cities metro-area is considered the 15th-largest media market in the United States, but, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the Vikings "attract the fourth-highest television ratings in the league." That interest has helped the Vikings sell-out all of their home games since 1998, which represents a lot of money coming into Minnesota from out of state--a point DN has labored to point out in the Vikings' stadium debate. If it wasn't for great teams participating in great rivalries, I find it hard to believe that the rest of the country would care what happens to a team in the upper midwest.

Sunday I'm going to hope that Chad Clifton being out for the Packers will create opportunities for Jared Allen and Brian Robison. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope that the Vikings secondary doesn't get torched for long plays by Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings. I'm going to hope that Christian Ponder can find a way to ignite a passing game that will keep the Packers from just loading the box against Adrian Peterson. But mostly, I'm going to enjoy watching the latest chapter of one of the best rivalries in the NFL unfold. As corny as it sounds, this rivalry keeps things interesting and makes the Vikings better.

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I agree wholeheartedly!

Trust me, I grew up in northern Wisconsin and my whole family is Packer fans. That is not easy. This year they almost feel sorry for me, which is even worse, but I have been a Vikings fan since I knew what football was.

14 halll of famers. Wait Cris Carter isn't in the Hall of Fame yet!? Wtf is wrong with these people!?

by Thor82 on Oct 20, 2011 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Your whole family is Packers fans?

Man, and I thought I got crap from my friends who are Packers fans. Tell me, with so many Packers fans in the family, is Thanksgiving rough? Is the meal planned around when the Packers are playing?

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yes

Thanksgiving is rough, but luckily they aren’t the “die hard, packers can do no wrong” types. The meal isn’t planned around, but the TV will be on. I live in Milwaukee now, but I will be out on the East Side with my Harvin jersey on. If they win, I may fear for my life and I will still be happy.

14 halll of famers. Wait Cris Carter isn't in the Hall of Fame yet!? Wtf is wrong with these people!?

by Thor82 on Oct 21, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL sounds like one heck of a holiday :)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

I think this game may actually have a draw from football watchers around the country, just because it’s so seemingly mismatched and a perfect experiment to see what Ponder will do.

I grew up and still live in Portland, OR, and have been a Viking fan all my life.

I think it may be interesting for you natives to know that the NFC North rivalries are very much a real thing across the country. I think we “get it”, even though we can’t really experience it first hand. I have this romantic version of having 4 teams so close in proximity, and their respective households being diehard Viking/Packer/Lions/Bears fans. Let’s face it, those types of things don’t exist much in the west, aside from college ball. You all are very lucky.

by All'Aboard'The'Purple'Love'Boat on Oct 20, 2011 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

A really interesting point...

I hadn’t thought about strong regional rivalries as something that has gotten to be rare. When I was living in San Diego the only home game I remember Chargers fans getting revved up for was the one against the Oakland Raiders because that was a rivalry.

You may be right about Sunday’s Vikings/Packers match-up attracting attention because it looks like such a mismatch. If the Vikings manage to find a way to win for Ponder’s first NFL start it will have the feel of an NFL David vs. Goliath. Everybody loves a good underdog story.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

The vikings need a

game like they had against the eagles last season. if the defense can play like they did
in the eagles game, they can win. the packers are playing well but really 300 yd games against the broncos, rams, panthers is not that great of a feat. the saints shut them down the 2nd half of their game. If the vikes can get pressure on Rodgers and ponder can minimize mistakes the vikings can win.

by FlFan on Oct 21, 2011 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

We have to keep it close into the 2nd half. We can’t get down early. I’ve been telling anyone that will listen that this is a matchup made in heaven for Ponder to start. Soft, injured secondary. They aren’t exceptional at rushing the passer so Ponder should have a little time back there or at least enough to make a play. Defensively, we’ll give up some points. It’s going to happen, but what we need is big plays on defense. We need sacks that will drop them back 10 yds. We need to create turnovers, but it’s all going to start with pressure up front. Rogers must go down and he must go down HARD.

Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

would love to see Jared

wipe that snotty, arrogant smirk off of rodgers face

by FlFan on Oct 21, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

+69

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!!!

by bf4mvp on Oct 21, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rivalry

This is what makes any sport, that much better. Looking foward to seeing Ponder. Hope this is the start of a long future. Correct me if I’m wrong, when was the last time we thought the Vikings had a QB for the long run? Culpepper?? Games like this I like to say we are playing with house money. And just imagine, on national tv the Vikings win..Holy S@&t. Let’s Rock Minnesota

by NYVIKINGS65 on Oct 20, 2011 11:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Was it really as long ago as Culpepper?

Sheesh, that’s a long time. It seems like Tavaris Jackson was always seen as a development project rather than that heir-apparent franchise guy, so Daunte Culpepper could very well be the last long-term starter the Vikings had. Clearly, it has been way too long a wait for a franchise quarterback.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Favre started two seasons in a row

In comparison to other Vikings QBs, that may be considered long-term.

Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's sad.

Two seasons and it’s long-term? Oye.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe the ghost of fran

will be with ponder . run for your life, guys open now throw it, first down.and what if we win holy moley, will there be number 7 jersey sales come monday.

by skol viking on Oct 20, 2011 11:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel snazzy because I already have a Christian Ponder jersey.

When I got talked to my dad after Ted and I were at training camp my dad asks, “So, you interview anybody?” and I was pretty sure he didn’t think I had been able to get any interviews so I felt so smug when I got to say, “Yes, I got to talk to Christian Ponder.” Well, a couple weeks later my dad got me a Ponder jersey. He’s a sweetie. My dad that is, Ponder is a nice guy too, but we’re not quite on the terms where I can call him a sweetie. Not yet anyway ;-)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well hey....

interviews are kinda like dates right? In a very formal kinda way? I mean….sorta?

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 22, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

A very, very supervised date.

Of only about 3-5 minutes :)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 22, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ghost of Fran?

Pretty sure he’s still alive and kicking down in Gerogia at the ripe old age of 71. He might be a bit concerned to know that his ghost is already roaming around in MN.

by NastyPapercut on Oct 21, 2011 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

best vikings commercial

hof 93 chasing a chicken with a green 4 jersey on.

by skol viking on Oct 21, 2011 12:53 AM CDT reply actions  

HA, completely forgot. Thanks for the memory lane.

Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was a fun commercial :)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially the end

When Johnny is eating a drumstick!

"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.

by NMVike on Oct 21, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

+93

BEST COMMERCIAL EVA!!!

Vikings Valhalla .com

by Admiral BigGun on Oct 21, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps one of the greatest individual rivalries of all time.

No lettuce. No pickles. No trees. No grass. I will pollute all I want. No green. No cheese. It's hate week.
HATE HATE HATE

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBddPh4kqRg

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Oct 21, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stuff :)

Thanks for posting the link!

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's unfortunate that so many of us have had to deal with the mostly annoying brand of Packer fans

It seems there are really only two kinds out there: the bearable and actually decent Packer fans (about 10-20% in my experience and from talking to other Viking fans or football fans) and then the rest, who are about as insufferable a lot as you’ll find.

I do agree that the rivalry is a great thing, though, for all the reasons you’ve mentioned. It’s just too bad the states are side by side which leads to far too much bleed-over and even (stupidly and embarrassingly enough) newspaper coverage of our hated rivals. That’s what irks most of us Viking fans. You don’t see those chumps covering the Vikings and we absolutely shouldn’t be giving them any coverage, I don’t care how many lame transplanted Packer fans live in the Twin Cities area. That’s their own fault.

by Wytefang on Oct 21, 2011 1:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, the coverage they get in Minny is disgusting

It’s like people that live in Iowa(born and raised) that are Husker fans, for me. Some people’s kids.

HATE HATE HATE

Putting Ponder in isn't the question, it's the answer.
SKOL!!!

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's the saying?

“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Things with the Vikings and Packers is definitely close. We can always feel good that it isn’t like the 49ers and the Raiders—their preseason match-ups had to be nixed because of the fans.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

If that ever happens in the Midwest....

this country is officially screwed.

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 22, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Preach it.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 22, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have a level head on your shoulders Skol Girl.

One of my best friends is a huge Lakers fan. In the 70’s and 80’s pretty much, the Celtics- Lakers rivalry was one of the greatest in all sports. Bird vs Magic. Dang that Hardwood Classic channel is awesome. The teams that we root for, or adopted as kids, has a lot to do with circumstance. Our geography, maybe a loved family member that was a fan, or maybe we were simply drawn to a uniform, all play a part in the teams we like. I have friends and have worked with those who there is at least one fan of each of the 32 teams( I know a guy that likes the Jets for whatever reason). But sports is sports and life is life and… "

 Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true" – Martin Luther King Jr.

Having said that I hope we kick the crap out of the Packers Sunday afternoon. The David and Goliath analogy was perfect, and hopefully our O Line can step it up a bit to give CP7 a little bit of time.

"Show me a hero, and I will write you a tragedy." - F. Scott Fitzgerald

by abba7 on Oct 21, 2011 3:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Abba :)

I’m really hoping that the Vikings offensive line can give Christian Ponder some help on Sunday too. There have been times this year when Donovan McNabb barely had time to hand the ball to Adrian Peterson let alone hang onto it long enough for a receiver to streak downfield. After all the anticipation we have for finally seeing Ponder start, it would really be a bust if he went out with an injury after one game.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

AAAAGHGHGH!!!!

must…..throw…..salt…..over…..shoulder……break…..curse….

No lettuce. No pickles. No trees. No grass. I will pollute all I want. No green. No cheese. It's hate week.
HATE HATE HATE

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Knock on wood.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a rough day

I remember when my uncle died; it was a dark time. I completely surprised myself & cried my eyes out at the funeral. I just kept thinking I’d never be able to play sheepshead with him again, and just couldn’t stop bawling, even more than his daughters. I basically live & breathe football (I’ve even told my work that under no circumstance are they allowed to schedule me on Saturdays or Sundays), but in terms of relatives dying, it can’t hold a candle.

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Oct 21, 2011 3:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I think my uncle's funeral is the most I've cried over a family death in a long time.

My Uncle Benny was a really good guy. My aunt, his wife, caught some flack for having the funeral on Super Bowl Sunday, but she was just so overwhelmed she thought it would be better not to wait. I think she was probably right.

Nice that the folks at work know not to schedule you on Saturdays and Sundays. Good to know some people can respect the special bond between a fan and his team :)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

My condolences on the loss of your uncle,

Even if it was back in February. I lost my beloved grandfather in May 2009, and the pain of losing him has never fully left.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 21, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, I really appreciate it :)

With the people you love, there’s just never enough time.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Skol Girl

I always love the way you write.

I grew up with the same necessary hatred of the Pack, but I have come to realize that being a Viking fan dooms us all to a life of “just about”.
I firmly believe “the Vikings will only ever be good enough to break my heart”

Isn’t this a hell of a ride though?

SKOL VIKES

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by just another viking on Oct 21, 2011 7:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks JAV :)

The Vikings really are a hell of a ride. Only HBO could give you more drama, sex (Love Boat and the Brett Favre sexting scandal), and violence. You might be right that the Vikings will only ever be good enough to break fan hearts, but I have to hold onto the hope that they will bring home the Lombardi trophy one day. But that’s just me.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's our problem...

I mean, it’s called the Lombardi Trophy… It was named that in 1970 which is the year of our first Super Bowl appearance. And it’s been called that ever since.

We’ve been cursed…

by SirGrizzly on Oct 23, 2011 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Skol Girl

Outstanding article…one of your best! Thanks for keeping it real.

"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!

by DaRange on Oct 21, 2011 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks DaRange, I appreciate it :)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reality check

I grew up watching the Vikes in the late 60’s (first game attended as a little kid was in 67) and to be honest I never really thought of the Packers as our biggest rivals. That’s probably because in the 25 seasons between 68 – and 92 the Packers had 5 winning seasons and 2 playoff appearances. Yep – that’s right – two appearances in 25 seasons!! Probably never hear that from a Packer fan. Anyway, I grew up thinking that the Cowboys were our biggest rivals since it always seemed like one of us was fighting for a superbowl berth. So it’s still a little weird for me to think of them as being the team to beat. I’m not trying to take anything away from last year’s 6th seed team that had a nice run at the end of last season, but I’m not exactly ready to hand them this year’s championship either. We’ve all seen plenty of strange things happen to the team that is supposedly the favorite in this game. Rodgers better have his head on a swivel because “69” is going to be bearing down on him.
SKOL!!!!!

by Siegfried59 on Oct 21, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Great info and perspective!

The Pack better double team Allen if they know what’s good for them. Hopefully that will open things up for B Rob and maybe some blitzes through the A gap. Couldn’t be more pumped for the game. SKOL BABY!!

by SeventhViking on Oct 21, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember the Barry Sanders era when the Lions were the team to beat?

Franchise success in the NFL can really fluctuate. When I was in high school a bunch of the kids in my class were Cowboys fans and, considering what Troy Aikman was doing down there, it was hard to blame them. But I still don’t care for the Cowboys. Although, that’s mostly because they are referred to as “America’s team” and I take offense at that presumption.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's actually very easy to blame them
When I was in high school a bunch of the kids in my class were Cowboys fans and, considering what Troy Aikman was doing down there, it was hard to blame them.

They sound like worthless bandwagon jumpers.

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Oct 22, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought they were bandwagon fans too...

Then I found out that their family came from Texas so it made sense.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 22, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about the LA Rams?

The Vikes played them fairly often in the playoffs back in the 70s.

Dear Vikings Offensive Line: Please don't let our QB (whomever it happens to be) get killed.

by Td1984 on Oct 21, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may be a Packers fan,

But this is why rivalries are good for sports. Well said.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 21, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

They really are.

Rivalries keep it interesting. Even when the Detroit Lions were cruising toward an 0-16 finish in 2008, they played the Vikings hard at the Metrodome. That was the game where Gosder Cherilus leveled his helmet into Jared Allen’s knee. Allen was already playing with a third-degree shoulder separation, but he hopped up on his one good leg and with his one good arm he was going to try to kick Cherilus’ ass. Fortunately, a teammate kept Allen from getting to Cherilus and doing anything stupid. But there it was, even though the Lions were pretty awful that season, they weren’t handing the Vikings anything. It was a divisional rivalry, maybe not as big a rivalry as the Vikings have had with the Packers for the last 20 years, but still a rivalry and all bets are off with rivalries.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not just bets, but gloves as well apparently.

No lettuce. No pickles. No trees. No grass. I will pollute all I want. No green. No cheese. It's hate week.
HATE HATE HATE

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So it would seem.

Weird stuff seems to happen with Jared Allen when the Vikings play the Lions. Last year Shaun Hill took a swing at him starting off a big brawl on the field. I think if it hadn’t been for that fight, the Lions might have won that game. But the fight got the Vikings fired up and they found a way to win.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

And that’s why I love (and secretly dread) rivalry games, because, as you correctly say, all bets are off until the clock reads 0:00. For me, I lived in Wisconsin during the mid-1990s, and I have as a result always dreaded games in Minnesota. And that’s because the Packers-Vikings games are almost always close, no matter what the teams’ respective records are.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 21, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It certainly keeps things interesting.

I think the Vikings/Packers rivalry is the reason the Vikings are only 9 point underdogs in Sunday’s match-up. Considering the way each team has played so far, I would have thought the Packers would be favored by a larger margin.

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

1997

Hadn’t thought about that game in a while. Interesting because it wasn’t really about an opportunity to root against the Pack for me. My brother is a huge broncos fan. And he had faithfully endured the bronco’s Super Bowl blowouts of the late 80’s-early 90’s. I remember being happy for him and cheering for Elway; not cheering against the Pack.

Well I guess there’s a first time for everything….it was also the last. SKOL VIKINGS!

"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.

by NMVike on Oct 21, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Win - Win

That was a very good day for me because I loved Elway, the Broncos have always been my 2nd favorite team, and I got to cheer against the Packers. Couldn’t have worked out much better – unless it was the Purple winning their 1st SB.

by Siegfried59 on Oct 21, 2011 11:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ah, John Elway...

My brother-in-law is from Colorado and he talks about Elway in hushed, sanctified tones :)

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

The Daily Norseman

by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's late in the week, but time to update the Sig

No lettuce. No pickles. No trees. No grass. I will pollute all I want. No green. No cheese. It's hate week.
HATE HATE HATE

by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I smell a FanPost coming up

How would the Viking’s story of the last 2 seasons best be portrayed on the silver-screen?

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by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love it!

I would love to read about how the Vikings last two seasons might play out in a movie.

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by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regional rivalries ROCK

I’m a WI alum and Packers fan now living in Oregon after a lifetime in Iowa and Wisconsin. Like someone said above, there are no comparable rivalries out here that are as compelling as the upper Midwest rivalries, or the amazing NFC North. I like that the division is built around a tight area geographically. I also love the Midwest (all of it) and tell people all the time why MN, WI, IL and IA as states, not just as sports locales, are amazing. I don’t love the Vikings, but I love Minnesota the state and the Packers-Vikings rivalry. The thought of the Vikings moving gives me hearburn.

Great piece.

by DucksBadgersPackers on Oct 21, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I believe that would be the "sound" of the Vikes moving that would give you "hearburn"

Great post though. It’s always nice to hear how the rest of the world sees our regional rivalries. What are you going to do if the Badgers and Ducks meet in the Rose Bowl?

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by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that NCAA rules forbid...

a Natl Champ game without an SEC participant…. or two.

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 22, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it interesting the things you miss about the midwest when you leave the region?

I lived in southern California for awhile and I loved it, but it never quite felt like home. With the exception of some transplanted Corn Huskers fans I ran into, people in southern California just didn’t seem to get into football the way we do in the midwest so when I tried talking football I didn’t get the feeling they understood that whole sense of divisional rivalry that we have. This is why if the Vikings end up moving to Los Angeles I think it will be a loss of a lot of football tradition in this part of the country and not just a team.

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by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Transplanted?

more like implanted.

No lettuce. No pickles. No trees. No grass. I will pollute all I want. No green. No cheese. It's hate week.
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by DM_Purp on Oct 21, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

This reminds me a lot

Of when the Browns left Cleveland in the mid-1990s. Obviously, the Browns fans didn’t like the move, but also, the Steelers fans didn’t like the move either. And the main reason for that was the rivalry.

I’d feel the same way if the Vikings left Minnesota. I really hope that never happens.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 21, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Things are getting interesting with the Vikings' quest to get a new stadium...

Apparently they just needed to wait until a few months before their lease was up for anything to happen. I would have more faith in Governor Mark Dayton’s sudden drive to get a deal done if he didn’t keep bringing up alternate stadium sites. Fingers-crossed, they’ll find a way to get the deal done.

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by Skol Girl on Oct 21, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, aren't they sweet?

Only politicians could think that an unsuitable location would somehow be great if the price was low enough. It is concerning to me that the politicians pushing the idea of a Minneapolis site at either the Metrodome or in the Farmer’s Market, haven’t actually worked with the Vikings on any plans. As far as I know, Ramsey County was the only local equity partner location to work with the team to address what their vision is for a new stadium. The Vikings’ contribution amount has been raised from $407 million to $420 million and it is ridiculous to think that the team will contribute that much money to a site in Minneapolis that has been presented without any input from them. Not only that, but the Vikings have committed to Ramsey County and an flirtation with Minneapolis in an attempt to keep their options open would likely result in Ramsey County pulling out of the deal the way Anoka County did when the Vikings were considering building a stadium there a few years ago.

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by Skol Girl on Oct 22, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

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