The Minnesota Vikings Finally Play A Consistent Game Of Football
In the intro for the Game Thread I put up before the start of yesterday's action, I implied that if the Vikings could simply play consistent football for 60 minutes, they should be able to come out with a win.
Well, I was half right. . .they did play a consistent game of football for two halves. Unfortunately, it was consistently bad.
Yes, the Vikings are one of only four teams in the National Football League that are currently without a victory at the quarter pole of the season. (I realize the Indianapolis Colts play tonight, but they're going to have a tough time not going to 0-4, in my opinion.) They allowed 22 points to a team that had been averaging just nine points a contest going into yesterday's action, and gave up 350 yards of offense to the team that had been dead last in the NFL in that category.
Once again, the offense was awful, and though they tried to drive late at the end of the game, quarterback Donovan McNabb was awful on the last few snaps. Starting on first and ten from the Kansas City 41-yard line with two minutes left in the game, McNabb had consecutive passes knocked down by defensive linemen, the first by Kelly Gregg and the second by Tyson Jackson. McNabb then miss Bernard Berrian on third down, and completely airmailed one over Visanthe Shiancoe on fourth down on a play that would have been nullified by a Phil Loadholt penalty even if it had been completed.
We've dissected a lot of Sunday's game already, and Ted will be by with the Stock Market Report tomorrow. . .but I'll just say this. I've mentioned numerous times before that my first year as a Viking fan (that I can clearly remember) was the Les Steckel disaster season of 1984, when the team split their first four games, then lost 11 of their last 12 to finish 3-13 on the year.
This team might be worse.
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This team is not worse.
But they might not win 3 games. The 84 team had nothing – especially on the D line and Les Steckel was not nearly as experienced and professional as Frazier. They were however in the NFC championship game 3 years later. I expect a similar rebound – but this time with a ring.
by Siegfried59 on Oct 3, 2011 7:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
With a ring?
Uhh…I think the jury is still out on a few things. By the time we get a competant OLine on our team, Peterson might be in a body bag and Ponder might not be the one. Also, who is going to be our gamechanging WR? Percy is a stud, but he doesn’t necessarily change how a defense plays against us. He’s much better in a secondary role. That’s obviously what the pessimist might say, which I’m not. We do have a lot of holes to fill. I hope you’re right though. This losing sucks and it’d be nice to see some light at the end of the tunnel. We went from great to seasons ago to downright awful in a matter of one season. Don’t know how much more I can take. Oh wait, I’m a vikings fan, my pain tolerance is extremely high.
Skol!
Players are not worse, but...
The coaching that I’ve seen thus far from our new staff has been somewhat suspect. Steckel was just in way over his head, and his quick departure was evidence of that. However, these coaches have shown in the past that they are capable. For some reason this year they seem to have forgotten how to coach. Play calling is questionable at best. Adjustments are almost nil following half time, and the lack of motivation in the fourth quarter is startling to say the least.
Listen, I don’t want some idiot coaches who run around yelling and screaming at the players all day; only to have to see their cardiologist on a weekly basis to make sure a coronary isn’t right around the corner. Yet, I’d like to see a little emotion from the guys running this team. Every sideline shot I see shows a bunch of mostly stoic coaches and coordinators, who at times seem to be way in over their heads. Now I don’t think this is the case, but they need to actually start coaching.
Case in point, McNabb. Hahaha, last week in the strib, they are worried about his mechanics. McNabb says “thanks for the concern, but not a problem”. Um, five foot nothing Doug Flutie could get it over the line, or at least he knew well enough to get the hell out of the pocket when necessary so he could see the receivers. Two passes batted down in a row, and then two very erratic passes later, game over. Mechanics FAILED big time. I realize the guy has been around, and he has never been one to listen, but, maybe he listens to some constructive criticism and changes his delivery, or he gets to hold a clipboard. We don’t need to throw Ponder to the wolves either. If McNabb can’t pull his head out, let Webb take over and sparingly insert Ponder at key points of the game to let him learn situational football. Just make sure the situation isn’t we’re down by 20.
Penalties? WTF? All the stupid penalties we’ve gotten this year, and not one coach seems to concerned about it; well at least not concerned enough to show any real emotion about it, or to dwell on the situation enough to maybe, oh, I don’t know, FIX it. This is one of those times where coaches have to put the hammer down, and make the players stop the stupid mistakes. Regardless of how you do it. Extra practice time, docking paychecks, sitting the person for a quarter, or whatever is necessary to change the behavior. Contractually I’m not sure what can be done, but the coaches know, and they should do something about it. NOW. The season may soon be over, if it isn’t already, but that’s even MORE incentive to get rid of the stupidity going forward.
Using talent where talent is necessary. It’s been stated here, and everywhere for that fact, ad nauseum: Keep the star players on the field, and most certainly in KEY situations. If I was Zygi or someone in the front office, I would certainly be questioning the coaches philosophy of taking out key players during game changing moments. Moments where literally the game has hung in the balance. I know we as fans scratch our heads, so I have to believe the brass are doing the same thing, especially with the 100 million dollar man on the sidelines when he shouldn’t be. I laughed when I heard not only did they take Harvin out, but Shiancoe as well on one of the failed plays towards the end of the game. WHY? The two players that have been your biggest threat all day, and they are BOTH on the sideline. It makes no sense. Then we all wonder why our spongy O-line can’t hold up? Ha, because the other team looks at our lineup and says “OK, that’s how you want it, we’re bringing the heat, just try and stop us”. And of course we can’t and McNabb can’t hit a pass to save his life when it counts. Game over.
This team has a ton of talent, and in no way, shape, or form should we be 0-4. When teams have this much talent, and they’re not getting the job done, fairly or not, you have to look at the coaching staff. Why aren’t they getting the results? I have a feeling if we had a hard-nose guy like Cowher or a thinker like Belichek at the helm, we’d be 3-1 or 4-0 right now. This team seems like it wants to play, and play hard. Just seems like the Captain and his minions aren’t steering the ship in the right direction. Hopefully they get it figured out before the ship sinks completely.
I was in Korea in 84’, so thankfully I missed that season. Being an out of state fan was not as tough back then, most of the games were not televised. It wasn’t til the early nineties that we could watch any game we wanted. Then we could get the full brunt of pain and suffering.
Thankfully. . .or sadly. . .
I never had that issue. Growing up in North Dakota, the Vikings were either on pretty much every weekend.
Hell, I didn’t even know what the heck a “blackout” was until I joined the Air Force and started moving around.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 4, 2011 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
That last drive says it all...
McNabb is below average in the first half and HORRIBLE when the game is on the line.
He folds like a cheap table. Always has, always will. He doesnt have the natural talent anymore to hide his lack of heart, guts, and leadership skills. He has always been overrated and im afraid he still might be.
He has no business starting for an NFL team, especially a team with 2 young QBs who need an audition.
This team will turn it around until he is on the bench.
Frazier deserves to be canned if he sticks with McNabb for much longer. Someone told me that Frazier wanted McNabb signed to begin with, if thats true, he needs to go on principle. A guy with such bad judgment is far from ever being a good coach. He has been badly out coached in 3 of the first 4 games, too.
What a mess.
SAME OLE
I can’t stand seeing these young quarterbacks around the league thriving, and the Vikings wasting there time on a washed up, over rated has been qb. Time to find out what Webb and Ponder are made of. Just look at the Lions, Jets and Falcons
by NYVIKINGS65 on Oct 4, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The only Qb thriving...
Is Newton…and Dalton is doing okay. But let’s not exaggerate
I've seen Qbs...
Throw interceptions on last drives. To pretend as if last minute touchdowns are THAT common is misleading
Stadium
Good luck pitching a new stadium. People on the fence won’t care if this team moves
by NYVIKINGS65 on Oct 4, 2011 11:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions

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