Minnesota Vikings Finally Play Complete Game In 34-10 Rout Of Arizona Cardinals
by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2011 3:41 PM CDT
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For the first time all season, the Minnesota Vikings played four good, solid quarters of football as they ripped the Arizona Cardinals at the Metrodome on Sunday afternoon by a score of 34-10.
The Vikings were paced by a huge first quarter, in which they tied a franchise record by scoring 28 points in the game's first fifteen minutes. The only other time they've accomplished that was in a blowout victory over the Green Bay Packers on September 28, 1986. The four touchdowns in that game were all touchdown passes by Tommy Kramer. . .the four touchdowns the Vikings got today all came via the ground, with three from Adrian Peterson (from 4, 24, and 14 yards) and a 4-yard run by Donovan McNabb.
The defense keyed the fast start as well, as they were dominant in the first quarter of play. The Cardinals' first 13 offensive plays consisted of three three-and-outs, two turnovers, another fumble that went out of bounds, and one completed pass. Jared Allen and Brian Robison each had two sacks on the afternoon, and JaMarca Sanford intercepted two Kevin Kolb passes on the afternoon, with Asher Allen throwing in a third.
By the way, as I pointed out in the Game Thread, the two interceptions for Sanford means that he now has exactly the same number of catches in 2011 that Bernard Berrian does. Also, the Vikings are 1-0 in games in which Bernard Berrian is deactivated, and his replacement, Devin Aromashodu, had two catches for 81 yards this afternoon for Minnesota. Hopefully the first news that comes across the wires tomorrow will involve Berrian getting cut. I'm sure that's wishful thinking on my part.
Yeah, after the first quarter, it wasn't especially pretty. . .Donovan McNabb didn't complete 50% of his passes, going 10-of-21 for 169 yards and no scores. The passing game is still a serious bone of contention for this team, to be certain, and it might be time to start seriously considering a look at either Christian Ponder or Joe Webb at the position.
But for right now? To heck with all that. . .after getting our hearts ripped out in numerous different ways over the first four weeks of the season, we got to see our favorite team win.
Over the next couple of days, we'll certainly have more on this game, but for now. . .I'm good with that.
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Just win baby!
Feels good to get the monkey off our backs to know that we will not be tying Detroit’s record (0-16). Now here is some wishful thinking….if we win the rest of our division games, GB sweeps Det, Chi sweeps GB, and Det & Chi split, we have a chance to do something crazy like possibly making the playoffs. I know it’s just one win but a man can dream can’t he? Anyways it feels great to get the first win.
SKOL!
No way was this team going 0-16.
For one thing, the Vikes aren’t that bad.
For another, they have to win just enough games to ensure that the Colts get to draft Andrew Luck—you know that’s what is going to happen.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 9, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
There are eleven games left in the season--how is it "mathematically impossible" for the Vikings to win fewer games than the Colts, just because the Vikings won today?
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 10, 2011 5:08 AM CDT up reply actions
it is now mathematically impossible for the vikings to go 0-16 !!!
midnight said : ’No way was this team going 0-16. "
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complete game?
Sorry guys but this game was not complete. How do you score 28 points in the first quarter and then completely shit yourself? Defense is Amazing but two field goals? Pathetic!! McNabb SUCKS and this win keeps him in longer. Even Denver gave Tebow a chance. Starting to hate Frazier more and more
Well, there are some positives at 1-4
Peterson is on pace for 1600 yards and 20 TD’s.
Jared Allen is on pace for an NFL record 27 sacks.
New starter Brian Robison has 4.5 sacks, which is 4.5 more than Ray Edwards.
Michael Jenkins was a good FA pickup that saves them having to find 2 new WR’s. Now they just need 1 good deep threat.
Chris Cook looks better than he ever has.
Jamarca Sanford can actually catch.
by rovibe on Oct 9, 2011 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Don't forget how good our O-Line played. It wasn't perfect and not against the greatest D but who cares, they played pretty damn well!
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by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 9, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
just saw your post. great minds think alike. ;) rec!
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Oct 9, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like Berrian's benching was due to performance.
If you read between the lines of what Frazier said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/32365/coachs-decision-on-bernard-berrian
Based on Aroshamadu's performance today I see no reason to ever activate Berrian.
Devin looked like ol’ Sidney Rice out there kind of.
No he didn't..
He dropped some real easy passes. Real easy ones. But he made up for them at least.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, we are so hell bent on Berrian being benched, if Berrian dropped those passes we would be tearing into him for it.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Oct 9, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Because Berrian has been a slug
For about two years now, and most of us are sick of it.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Rice dropped a lot of ball in the Eagles game last year...
…so bender26 might actually be right.
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The only pass I recall Rice not catching in that game
was the TD pass. Rice was better known for having sticky hands.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually he dropped two other passes as well.
I wouldn’t count the TD pass as a drop as it should have been ruled a TD in my opinion.
Also Devon Aromashodu only dropped one pass that wasn’t highly contented. He had a decent game with a couple of moments of brillance.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Berrian got benched? What else did I miss?
I had work to do during the game, so I saw none of it—just the final score.
Makes me wish even more that I had skipped the first four Viking games this year.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 9, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
You missed a point explosion in the 1st quarter
And then absolutely nothing else except some actual interceptions near the end of the game. And Jared Allen nearly getting his eye poked out.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Berrian performed???
That’s news to me. I can’t notice when he’s on the bench or on the field.
by HammeroftheGods on Oct 9, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Berrian buy a ticket?
I heard he was in street clothes. So was I.
People that don’t play football should have to buy a ticket to go to a Vikings game.
I haven’t seen Bernard Berrian play football for over two years.
Frazier said
that he was benched for disciplinary measures. I think he pissed off Zygi with his tweets and may be gone tomorrow. Wishful thinking probably.
"Show me a hero, and I will write you a tragedy." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
The popes might have been -
wait he’s a Cardinals fan. Messing with the only politico in Minny who supports a stadium, honestly I don’t know if that was a factor or not but he was in the dog house over something apparently.
"Show me a hero, and I will write you a tragedy." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
More than likely, this came from Wilf
He’s trying to get a new stadium. Telling one of the councillors to sit down and shut up, even if he didn’t know who it was, isn’t going to help matters. Unfortunately for Berrian (and good for the rest of the team and the fan’s sanity) Aromashodu has hopefully replaced him now.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, that too....and, i'll bet frazier started reading the daily norseman for guidance.
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I think it likely had to do with the "I'm getting open" comments
The team was 0-4 going in, and there was enormous pressure on McNabb and Frazier to show fans they had it under control. Then Berrian opens his yap on Twitter, essentially calling into question McNabb for not throwing it to him more often, and/or the coaches for not utilizing his awesome talents better.
If they were 4-0, they’d have a good reason to sit a guy going after the coach and QB like that. But 0-4? He’d better just shut up and try playing better. I’m guessing that’s why he was benched today. They can’t afford more fingerpointing or drama, or the whole season could go off the rails like it did last year.
I’d love to just see him cut tomorrow. Might as well see what the backups can do so they know how to prioritize WR’s in next year’s draft.
I wonder
If Frazier wadded up a pink slip and threw it to Berrian, could he catch it?
by rovibe on Oct 9, 2011 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha! I'm thinking No.
I suspect his Tweets are quiet today. “Look man, I was open all game. You wanna watch some film? That’s me right there in street clothes! No one around for 15 yards! Throw me the damn ball!”
Since McNabb looks like he isn't going to win Comeback Player of the Year
SF’s Alex Smith is my new odds-on favorite. Having a good game against TB. Good for him.
great game!
and one thing is for certain – AP is the best in the game. We could go 0-16 without him, but with him we could maybe get 8 wins this year haha
Now if we could only bench McNabb and get the Ponder era rolling
Really think the Vikings would be better off, with this young kid leading the offense then McNabb.
They would be
I’ve been against tossing Ponder in there because I’m not sure how much he’d help but.. I am absolutely sick of the ground-passes by McNabb. Ponder won’t do that at least.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
What we learned today.
Put it in Adrian’s hands, and he will win the game for us. (What a concept Leslie)
Do not attempt to remove Jared Allen’s eye, he will still destroy your QB.
Aromashodu > Berrian
McNabb is still a terrible quarterback, and his play should in no way should be attributed to this win.
by PurpleEaters on Oct 9, 2011 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh, and as far as the picture
Yeah, it shows Griffin getting trucked. . .but damn it, it’s just took good a picture not to use.
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2011 4:20 PM CDT reply actions
*too good
As my English skills fail me
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by Christopher Gates on Oct 9, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Turn your head and cough
How many Touch downs have the vikings scored in the second half? ONE? One Mother F***ing TD? Really? They may have won today, but that is because Corn on the Kolb can rally. They looked identical to the other four weeks save for giving the ball to AD in the 2nd
They had opportunities
But they stayed safe and went with securing the win. What if they did let McNabb throw some more? Would it have been more TDs or more INTs… How mad would everyone have been then? We won by 24 points I don’t know why more TDs were necessary. I feel if the Cards had actually threatened the lead, we would have answered instead of chewing up game time.
Yeah, I'm glad we stuck to running at the end of the game
but seriously.. We can’t have Peterson carry the ball 29 times each game. We need a QB who can make some easy throws to help run the clock. McNabb can’t even throw a screen pass without making it hit the ground.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
There were tons of easy throws out there, really I don’t know why McNabb is doing so badly he is what a 13 year veteran? Someone with that experience you would think that they would have the fundamentals down.
I also think they should try some more toss plays, might give Peterson a bit of an edge when they bring so many guys into the box
They're trying to work on his fundamentals
but something tells me McNabb is taking the whole ’I’ve been a QB for 9 or 10 years, I don’t need to go back to fundamentals’ route with it and not putting his whole heart into it.
I found it pretty funny when the game announcer said McNabb told them he wanted to play another 3 years. The way he’s playing now, he won’t even have a job next season. Unless he wants to hold a clipboard.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I say start Ponder after the first GB game
We need someone who can throw accurately not skip passes, I thought we got rid of T-Jack?
I never liked him but...
At least TJack could pose the threat of a passing game. Right now, defenses straight up know McNabb can’t complete passes so they are crowd the box.
Yeah, he can't even complete
dump-offs. Absolutely no fear of us going deep.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
McNabb can't beat Greenbay.
Start Ponder on Sunday.
by emeyenburg on Oct 9, 2011 8:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"The first step is always the hardest"
1. AP- Hat trick..in the 1st Quarter. I thought I was playing Madden for a second.
2. “He went to Jared” Allen & Robison- They have to be the one of the best duo in the league currently.
3. Berrian Inactive/Aromashodu – Fact: By putting Berrian inactive, the offense already gained 40 yards before the National Anthem.
4. Sanford – DB that can catch! keep him!
5. Cook – able to slow one the leauges best. It also helps that Kolb cant throw for sh*t.
6.Coaching Adjustments – Finally! finally..finally..running the ball when leading..who would’ve thought.
7.First win of the season!
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Oct 9, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
what is encouraging yet sad is,,,
that this team can win going away WITHOUT having a quality QB.. just makes you think what could happen if we did..
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by BranFavrenton on Oct 9, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I was at the game today
And it was great to see a win. McNabb, however was a hot mess. He missed a lot of open receivers with worm burner throws. He’s obviously lost it and needs to be done!
by VikingTodd on Oct 9, 2011 4:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What an ugly pass that Aromashodu took for 60 yards.
It looked like one of Joe Kapp’s throws. I wonder if the wobble made it easier or harder for Devin to catch.
Suck for Luck?
It has been my firm belief that no team should intetnionaly “Suck for Luck”. It should go to the team that sucks the most without trying. This win puts us a whole game and a half ahead of Miami and St Louis. St Louis won’t take Luck with what they’re already paying the talented Bradford, but the really problem here is that we are now a game ahead of Indianapolis. For the sake of the entire NFL, we cannot let the Colts take Luck. Miami only has so many home games to lose. Keeping McNabb playing is our last best hope to keep Indy from having two HOF QBs for a span of three decades.
If it's anyone other than us with the 1st pick, we are screwed.
A time will trade up to get the rights to Luck. He’ll never not be the first pick of the draft.
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we are now screwed. "and with the first pick in the 2012 nfl draft..."
“…the miami dolphins didn’t quite get their pick in on time, so the indianapolis colts select,
the best qb prospect of the century, andrew freakin luck”.
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So glad we won today...
Now we don’t have to fire LF and Musgrave. (laughs underneath breath)
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Oct 9, 2011 4:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think today was a fluke
Observe:
1) The Cardinals aren’t exactly a powerhouse like the other teams in our division; Weaker teams are easier to beat, so it doesn’t mean we improved…it means we beat a crappy team.
2) The defense looked a lot better in the first quarter than they had in the previous games. This set up special teams with field position and they delivered.
3) Special teams looked consistent with what they’ve done all season. They looked good and they set up the offense.
4) The offense looked real good in the first quarter (McNabb’s passes notwithstanding) because of the starting field position. 3 out of the 4 touchdowns were on drives that started 30 yards from the Cardinals goal line, so there was no methodical movement down the field.
5) Turnovers make a difference. Today, we capitalized on turnovers, without making many ourselves. Put in Ponder, I think you see a lot more interceptions and fumbles. On the flip side, you can always take him back out.
by Chris3 on Oct 9, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rebuttal:
1. Uhh, we absolutely improved. We lost to a horrible team last week by playing horrible, we beat a decent team this weak by playing with more intensity and focus, that’s improvement.
2-5. Waht?? By saying that our offense was only good because they worked on short fields thanks to the defense is like saying that Tom Brady is only good because he has great recievers… It’s a bit cynical.
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Oct 9, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No,
it’s a fair point. When you only have 30 yards to go, it makes it ALOT easier to score than when you need to sustain a drive and go for 80 yards. I mean, seriously..
Points off Turn-overs: 28. Points from kick-off: 6.
Also, no, it’s hard to say we improved. We pretty much did nothing in the 2nd half. Again. Yes, we won, but that is because we finally came up with a lead we couldn’t give up, and our defensive backs caught some interceptions at the end of the game.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
McNabb: 10 of 21? That sucks.
Field position was a gift. No way they’re getting those easy setups from the Packers, etc.
Arizona is not a decent team. Arizona is a terrible team with one great player and a bunch of bad ones.
To top it off, they played a great 1st quarter, and got outscored the rest of the game.
by rovibe on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I second the notion
At one point McNabb was 2-10. The first quarter onslaught was done by the defense, Marcus Sherels punt returns, and AD. McNabb sucks and contributed very little to this win.
About the only good thing McNabb did this game
was not throw Ints. And maybe that’s why we won’t see Ponder. We’re afraid of having turn-overs. You have to admit we play very ball-controlled football. Its just a shame McNabb can’t do anything when throwing.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Pure luck kept him from throwing two int
by emeyenburg on Oct 9, 2011 9:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kind of have to agree.
The Cardinals had a lot of chances and blew them the way we typically do. They dropped passes and had critical penalties at critical times. And even with all of their miscues, it still looked like they had a decent chance when they were marching down the field for another TD. The holding call took away a 1st down near the Vikings end zone and totally changed the rest of the game.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
The way the Vikes have played in second halves this year
I didn’t feel like the win was in the bag until about 8:00 left in the 4th quarter.
Not to mention we got some VERY
favorable spots a couple times. That Wells run on 4th and inches probably should have been a first down. And then that play where their reciever stretched the ball out while he was getting tackled should have been too.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I find myself somewhat in agreement with Chris3
Several of these points make a lot of sense to me, unfortunately.
We beat a bad team, honestly…or at least a mediocre one that had some key injuries, too.
Still, it’s nice to get a win finally, regardless.
fyi, some 2nd half stats...
adrian peterson : 16 rushes / 36 yards in 2nd half
vikings offense : 82 total yards in 2nd half
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
some more wierd game stats...
percy harvin : 1 rush & 1 catch for 23 total yards….for the entire freaking game.
tight ends : 1 catch for 20 yards….for the game, that’s it.
but…
lorenzo booker : 1 rush and 2 catches for 50 yards total…that is pretty cool.
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one more...
our average touchdown drive for the game was 26 yards per td drive !!!!
we scored 4 td’s in the 1st goddam quarter for a whopping 104 yards total.
the drives went something like this:
drive started at : ariz 18 / 4 plays / 18 yards / td
drive started at : ariz 24 / 1 plays / 24 yards / td
drive started at : ariz 25 / 5 plays / 25 yards / td
drive started at : ariz 37 / 4 plays / 37 yards / td
total drive stats : 14 plays / 104 yards / 4 tds / all in 1st quarter
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
Great win
Maybe now ya’ll will get on a streak
by mississippisaintsfan on Oct 9, 2011 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
I'm sick of McNabb out there
I can’t understand for the life of me why we are still playing him. God Damn sad when you are “improving” and your stats are 10-21- 0 TDs. What crap………….put the guy out of his misery and start Ponder.
by papaspud on Oct 9, 2011 6:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Two words
Ball Control… If the throws are hitting the ground, they’re not hitting the other team’s defenders in the hands!
But sarcasm aside.. it probably does have to do with ball control.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Finally, a Win
The game wasn’t on here and I came in late, but it’s good to see a number other than zilch in the W column!
Looking at the scoring, however, I’m still not seeing a lot of impressiveness in the second half, I doubt the issues are fixed. But for the moment, I’m just going to enjoy what it feels like to have a team that can win a game :)
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All four games I watched via internet and we lost…tonight I said “Can’t take this no more” and went to my favorite Rock n Roll Bar here in Dubai….Was great – no game…and guess what ? We WON!!!!
OK No more live games for me….F* getting Luck, let’s sit McDousche and start Ponder, and ref Mr. Big Bumbles (BB), send his arsche packing…
’Jes saying!!!!!
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by vikingfanfrom afar on Oct 9, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
I'm near you - well at least closer than most of the Vikes fans on here.
Living in Bahrain (working at the base here). SKOL VIKES!! Totally agree with you about McSuck and BB.
Lions fan here
congrats on the win, u guys killed them lol I hope u kick the bears @ss next sunday!!!
by sandvet on Oct 9, 2011 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
and the Packers the following week
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Oct 9, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome win....
I really don’t wanna hear anymore Fire Frazier rants…..the guy is really trying to learn from their mistakes….remember, he’s a defensive mind trying to trust his offensive coordinator. I really believe he will make the correct adjustments going forward to make sure we can score. We can NOT afford to lose a head coach as willing to win than Frazier!
Maybe if he didn't keep a QB out there
who goes 10-21 and throws passes into the dirt, you wouldn’t see so many fire-threads. Let’s not start praising him for winning a game against a 1-3 team. He did lose against a 0-3 team last week afterall.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I see that the masses are still lighting the torches and ready to put McNabb to the stake
I am in the EXTREME minority and have liked some of the things he has done, even in this game. He had his customary awful passes but he had some drops too (at least two). And there was one third down pass he put right on the money that Aromashodu did not come all the way back for and the DB was able to get a hand in there and break up the catch.
McNabb is still doing some good things. I saw a post that is claiming he should not get credit for Aaromashodu’s catch and run. That is silly. He put the ball where it had to be even if it was a wounded duck.
I just do not see Frazier making a switch just yet. This team should have held on to at least the Tampa and Detroit games. It has been proven that the offensive line has played terrible in pass protection. I do not see Ponder or Webb doing much better still.
I believe Frazier will stick with McNabb a little bit longer. He definitely is NOT going to make a change going into Chicago. That would be really foolish. The team still has the best chance of winning with McNabb right now IMHO. Wow! How comforting is that.
I think that Ponder did OK in the preseason but that was not against first string defenses all the time and they definitely were not doing things they would do in the regular season so it does not mean squat.
I think the team has a plan for Ponder and they want to execute it as long as they can. I will say thought that McNabb is getting closer and closer to Frazier wanting to make a change.
These next two games will be the final test for McNabb IMO. If the Vikings lose both then I can see Frazier making a switch at QB.
I think for now, McNabb will continue to torment some Vikings fans. :)
I did not expect much more considering his career averages.
Yeah, Aromashodu wasn't helping him
but honestly, there is no excuse for some of McNabb’s inaccuracies. Bad throws downfield, I can deal with. Those are hard throws to make. But on short dump-offs and screen passes? Unacceptable. The only reason I can see Frazier sticking with McNabb is that he hasn’t turned the ball over so far.
Obviously, Frazier like ball-control. That is also probably why he hasn’t played Ponder, because he’d be afraid of the rookie making mistakes and throwing a bunch of interceptions. But we can’t survive with Peterson getting 29 carries a game. McNabb needs to stop being so damn stubborn and let the coaches work on his mechanics so we can start throwing passes to take time off the clock as well.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you know they have not worked on his mechanics?
McNabb is doing what he has always done. 59% career completion percentage.
The Vikings knew what they were getting when they signed him and he is pretty much delivering his usual. What they need is a little more out of him.
Ponder is not ready and will struggle big time pretty much ensuring that the season is lost. Contrary to public belief the Vikings are still in it and in fact they are the only team with a losing record that has scored more points than they gave up.
They have been in there against three good teams and should have won at least two of those games if not all three. They are close and really any unit could have won those games.
IMO Ponder did not even out play Webb during the preseason so if there is any QB that should replace McNabb it should be Webb. But just because they used the 12th pick in the draft on Ponder they should throw him out there ready or not to see what they got.
I believe the team has a plan in place for Ponder and the QB coach already said the model was Aaron Rodgers. As long as they do not have to play Ponder then they should not play him.
They better draft a left tackle in the first round next year if they are smart.
There was an article a week or two ago on the STrib
where the coaches said they’d work with him on his mechanics, and the quotes from McNabb suggested he didn’t think he needed the work. I didn’t say they haven’t been working on his mechanics. I’m sure they’re trying.
What I’m saying is Donovan is playing the same card as you in that ’he’s doing what he’s always done,’ and not taking the coaching to heart. Which is probably why Shannahan had such an issue with him last season.
Honestly, the only thing McNabb has over the other two is just ball-control. I don’t see Ponder or Webb throwing the ball at a RB’s feet when he’s out in the flats waiting for a screen. Or at a wide-open WR not more than 5 yards away. McNabb’s throwing is absolute garbage. Just absolute garbage. That 59% completion percentage for his career is nice, but his career isn’t helping this team. What he does this season affects us. And this season, he’s blown Cambell’s Chunky Soup all over the field.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, the only thing McNabb has over the other two is just ball-control.
well, he has a ton of nfl game experience and knows what he is seeing and doing…he just isn’t throwing the ball very well. some passes are perect veteran nfl qb ball placement, while others are just way off the mark. he is really inconsistent with his accuracy, but he knows the situations faaaaar better than either ponder or webb would.
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He may know what he's seeing/doing
but his accuracy pretty much nullifies it because he can’t even hit wide-open WRs.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
it seems like it happens on simple throws...when he is under pressure
and has to escape, he seems to drill it and make great throws. his last turf shot looked like lazy execution of some kind of short out pattern, like he is just going through the motions.
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Your mind is made up already and that is fine
I just do not see Frazier rolling out either Ponder or Webb at this point.
I do it think that it will happen though but it will take 2 or 3 more losses. Maybe only one more loss.
If I am Frazier I am telling McNabb that we need to win and I need more from him otherwise I am making a change to see what I have in the youngsters.
This team should at least have ONE more win and most reasonable people would say TWO more wins. They have let some wins slip through their fingers. I think they will steal a couple of wins themselves.
No, I don't see it happening either
But that isn’t to say it shouldn’t happen. We’ve pretty much been close in games despite McNabb’s contributions so far, not because of them. He’s basically a non-factor it seems like. He’ll get you a good throw here and there, but more often than not, you get something that’s way off target wide recievers have to leap up or way down low for.
At least that’s what I’ve observed.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
To all those who wish to complain:
Before you go shedding tears about the current state of the Vikings, I’d just like to point out that, despite their flaws, they’ve been very competitive (and at least kept games fun to watch) throughout all of their games this season. This season has not gone the way we thought it might, but at least they are watchable.
Now contrast that to the Gophers.
Watching the Gophers “play” football (it isn’t really playing as much as it is just rolling around in a pool of their own excrement) is like taking a trip to a poverty-ridden 3rd world country. Once you come back to your real life, you appreciate everything you have so much more.
There is almost nothing wrong with Vikings football in contrast. I just wanted to say I’ve never been so happy to be 1-4 and still playing competitive football.
No, they haven't been competitive throughout their games
They’ve been competitive throughout the first halves, Kansas City game being the exception. This game was no different. We just finally found a lead we couldn’t relinquish and the secondary (namely our safety not named Tyrell Johnson) made some key interceptions at the end of the game.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I kinda disagree about the...
… “complete game” thing. The defense and AP’s running won that game. The offense showed little.
It was already time to bench McNabb. So do it now. The win shouldn’t obscure the fact that McNabb was ineffective again. So many easy missed throws.
He has just completely lost it.
Yes Aromashodu dropped a couple of easy one’s but those passes ten yards are inexcusable for a veteran and the time for change is now.
"Show me a hero, and I will write you a tragedy." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
ten yards in front of the play
"Show me a hero, and I will write you a tragedy." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
Gonna need a tissue over here!
"Show me a hero, and I will write you a tragedy." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
With even average QB play we would be 5-0
McNabb is just not getting it done, and I don’t see how starting one of the young guys could do us any harm at all at this point. Frazier needs to wake up and smell a little reality.
When the coaching staff....
watches the game tapes, they’ll see how bad McNabb was today. Even on some of his completions, the passes were not good. Time for the backups.
Kudos to the O-line today…they played their butts off!
"Skol Vikings! Let's win this game Skol Vikings!
AD didn't need to carry the ball 29 times today!
When the Vikes are up 3-TD’s, i think it’s safe to say that Gerhart and Booker can handle the rest.
The Vikings need to protect their investment a little better…IMO!
I was thinking the same thing
Gong nuts watching the game wondering that. Besides, even when they need AP in the game, he can go down at any time with an injury. If that happens, it would have been nice for them to get the other guys as prepared as possible. But nooooo… They like to put the backups in when the game is on the line, not when they’re up 28 points.
This win still doesn’t feel like a win. More like a gift from Arizona. Too many questions yet about 2nd half play and coaching.
I disagree totally
They spanked the Cardinals. The defense owned them to start the game. The defense earned everything they got today.
As far as AP carrying the ball 29 times I will use a line from the great John McKay when they asked him why he gave the ball so much to OJ. He said “the ball is not heavy”.
The Vikings needed to get a win and since they have blown some leads already there is no such luxury as resting AP. Besides he did get some rest as Toby got a few carries.
Yes, the defense looked great
But they’ve played well most of the year, anyway.
I was referring to the offense that still can’t move the ball in the second half – one TD in 5 second halves this year.
Coaching – putting Gerhart in on 4th and 1 in the earlier game, but leaving AP in with a huge lead late? Why?
McNabb.. Where do I start? His passes are ugly. He needs WR’s with 12 foot long arms to catch those ducks.
McNabb.. Where do I start? His passes are ugly. He needs WR’s with 12 foot long arms to catch those ducks.Those problems were there today, just as they’ve been there in the first 4 games. And let’s not kid ourselves about Arizona. They’re only 1-4, too. And that one win was against the 1-4 Panthers. That’s not much to get excited about.
McNabb.. Where do I start? His passes are ugly. He needs WR’s with 12 foot long arms to catch those ducks.Those problems were there today, just as they’ve been there in the first 4 games. And let’s not kid ourselves about Arizona. They’re only 1-4, too. And that one win was against the 1-4 Panthers. That’s not much to get excited about.Defense and special teams deserve credit. But until the offense and coaching catch up, they’ll need more opponents like Arizona to win many games. Unfortunately, they’ll instead be playing the Packers, Lions, Saints, etc.
Don't ask me what's going on with that text repeating
That wasn’t how I typed it..
I thought you were drilling home your point lol
It was a good one, so worth repeating, obviously.
Honestly though, at this point… I’m not even sure how much of the 2nd half stuff to blame on coaches, and how much to blame on awful, awful throws by McNabb. Maybe its both equally.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The ball may not be heavy,
but the hits he takes at the end of his runs are. We all know how hard Peterson runs. As god-like as he is at the position, he’s still a man. Those extra, needless, carries are going to take their toll on him. Maybe not now, but he signed a 7 year contract. Down the line, if we keep running him this hard, he’s going to break on us.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Youre trippin
The Vikes dominated all 3 phases of the game and won by 24 points. I agree that the passing game could have been better, but the Aromashadu drop and the Jenkins fumble were drive killers that could have led to more points.
This team is still sorting things out, but in the mean time they have flat out been dominant at times. As this team continues to gel, they will get better.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
How can you say they dominate all phases of the game?
danny lloyd pointed out a stat — average scoring drive under 30 yards.
Without the benefit of the defense and special teams setting up that field position, there is no 28 point 1st quarter. Put the Vikings at their own 20 yard line, and they might have scored 7.
Also – after the first quarter, they Vikings were outscored 10-6. You can’t possibly say the offense is dominating. They’re just not. Getting outscored is never ‘dominating’, and they have been outscored in every single game in the second half.
Impossible to say what the Vikes would have done with different field position
But here are some other stats:
The Vikes outgained the cards by 41 yards. The Vikes had more first downs, averaged more yards per play, were sacked fewer times and had less penalties. The only meaningful stat that the Cards held an advantage was time of possesion. But those short drives that you referenced most certainly had something to do with that. And I’d take TD’s over TOP anyday.
Also remember that the offense was on it’s way to score on the opening drive of the 3rd quarter until Jenkins fumbled. Longwell also missed a 43 yard field goal.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
The time of possesion BTW
Was 31 mins for the Cards and 29 mins for Vikes. Not bad considering 4 of the vikes drives started on the cards 30.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Not only did I say it, so did members of the Vikings:
Turning point: Three-phase early effort from Viking Update @ scout.com
Sometimes it takes all three facets of the game to work at the same time to create a turning point. The Vikings did that early Sunday, scoring 28 first-quarter points for just the second time in the 52-year history of the franchise on their way to a 34-10 blowout win over the Arizona Cardinals.
While the Vikings have been no strangers to building big leads in the first half, it was how they did it – they incorporated offense, defense and special teams.
"All three phases of the game did their part," linebacker Chad Greenway said. "We needed this one badly and the special teams did its part, the defense got a couple of big plays early and the offense capitalized on it. That was what we needed to get this win and everybody did their part."
We got momentum on our side early and we just kept rolling with it," defensive tackle Kevin Williams said. "We were able to make a couple of big plays on defense and, when the offenses cashes in on them, it keeps the momentum building. We weren’t going to let this one get away."
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Of course they're going to say that
Yes, they dominated in that first quarter. And then, after that, it was all defense and special teams.
If you take the word of the players at face value, then McNabb has absolutely no issues with his accuracy and will just work to fix his problems the next week. (Which show up. Again. And again.)
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 10, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh okay, so you and rovibe are right
And KWill, Greenway, the writers at VikingUpdate and I are all liars. Now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Yeah, sorry man.
Rovibe is right. Yeah, they’ve been dominant at times. For long stretches.. and then.. they just suddenly flat out suck. It has been happening week in and out, and that is disheartening.
The only phases of the game that have been dominant are special teams and defense. Offense is still horrid, even with our 24 point win. Thank the defense for that. We won’t often start at the opponents 30 for our first four drives.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because you share his opinion does not make him right
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Dude. Let me make this as simple as possible.
The Vikings won the first quarter by a 28-0 score, large due to Cardinals’ mistakes.
The Cardinals won quarters 2, 3 and 4, by a 10-6 score.
They did not dominate. Period. Getting outscored is never dominating. Ever.
You are simply wrong. There’s nothing anyone can ever say to convince any right minded person that getting outscored is dominating. That’s bullshit. Get over it.
This.
It’s nice to get a win, but come on. You are fooling yourself if you think anything but the 1st quarter was dominating on offense. Defense and ST, yes. Offense? No. Not at all.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 10, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The Vikings won the GAME 34-10
Your logic seems adamant in ignoring that FACT. So what if the Cards scored 10 points in 3 quarters. They still fell 25 short of a victory. The Vikings obviously took the foot off the gas. But Longwell did miss a chip shot FG and Jenkins fumbled while knocking on the door of FG range. But as it turns out they didn’t need those points anyway.
Your logic also ignores that those “mistakes” that the Cardinals “made” were actually take aways generated by the Vikings disruptive front four. Do you know the difference between a turnover and a takeaway? The Sanford INT to end the Cards last drive was a turnover. Kolb threw it right at Sanford and he caught it. The strip sack by Robison was a takeaway created by Robison’s effort and Jared Allen’s opportunistic play. The INT that Asher Allen had was a takeaway that started with Everson Griffen getting his hand up while reading Kolbs release and Asher Allen being opportunistic.
See the difference?
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
I'm not wasting more time with you
You’re in denial. Points win ballgames, and for the 5th consecutive game, the Vikings gave up more points in the second half than they scored.
You’re obviously just too stubborn to admit you misspoke. Cool. I really don’t give a shit.
yup points win
The Vikes put up 34 while the Cards could only manage 10. Therefore the VIKINGS WON! SKOL VIKINGS!
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Oh my....
EVERYONE around the league has been clamoring for AP to be given the ball more. Finally a game where he gets a lot of carries, and you complain. Just goes to show that you can’t please everyone.
Just sit back and celebrate a win.
by christian220896 on Oct 9, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Why risk the injury of your star player when they're up 3-TD's ?
If AD is out next week, (or any week)…. the Vikings chances of losing increase drastically.
I don’t see the point in taking that risk when there’s other players sitting on the bench that are capable…..and need the experience.
I care more about having ADAP next week, than him stacking his stat’s this week!
agreed, the 4th quarter should have been toby time ro run the clock out.
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I'm beginning to think you guys just look for any reason to complain
THE VIKINGS WON! ENJOY IT! SKOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
an injury there to adrian would have people screaming for frazier's head on a platter.
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... Why should we be complacent with one win?
Where we showed the same issues we have all season? Yes, I’m quite glad we won. That doesn’t mean I’m happy with how the team played, or that I have to be either.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Who said anything about being complacent?
It was a win. And the team and it’s fans deserve to enjoy it. The fans have the luxury to enjoy it until next Sunday night. The team I imagine will enjoy it tonight and get ready for Chicago beginning tomorrow morning.
But if winning by 24 wasn’t enjoyable for you, then I would recommend you find another way to spend your Sunday’s. But you are also more than welcome to continue beating yourself up. It don’t make a difference to me. SKOL
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Then again,
you’re the same guy who thinks giving up more points than you score for 3 quarters is dominant’, so maybe you’re not the person we should be asking.
I call a win by 3+ scores a dominating performance
I think most people of rational mind would agree with me.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
I just realized something
Using your logic, the Colts are the most dominant team in the league, because they’ve lost all 5 of their games, whereas the Vikings have only lost 4.
And using your logic
The Vikes should forfeit their victory because they didn’t win by 50 points. Gotcha. I guess you better send that memo to San Diego, New Orleans, and Buffalo. They all were outscored in the 2nd half but some how still managed to win their games….weird huh?
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Yyyeah..
I don’t know what game you were watching, but after the 1st quarter, the offense was kind of pitiful. Once the Cardinals stopped giving us awesome field position, we pretty much went into a shell.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 10, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
So how do you explain the FACT that the Vikes still had more total yards than the Cards?
Especially considering that the Vikes had a short field the entire 1st quarter? And don’t say it was all D because Wells still had 60 yards and Kolb almost hit 300.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
Yes, given the ball more
when he gets 5 touches in the 2nd half, something is wrong. But 29 rushes in a game? That’s a lot. We want him to get the ball, but in moderation. He has back-ups for a reason, after all.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems like Peterson runs into a wall way to often
I’d like the see the Vikings involve him in the passing game a lot more. When was the last time we set up a screen for Peterson?
by Coolio12 on Oct 9, 2011 9:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
they threw a nice 3rd down screen to booker today, that was a nice surprise.
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We haven't done too many screens
but, excluding this game, we’ve run a play where he sits in the middle of the field and gets a dinky pass from McNabb for 3 yards as the MLB just comes up and tackles him. Seen that one a bunch.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
well, thanks for nothing arizona....you couldn't overcome a miniscule 28 point deficit.
and you made us win in spite of our second half ineptitude. now we have some serious ground to cover up against the likes of the dolphins and the colts. it’s just our dumb luck.
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Detroit native & Lions fan checking in.
Thrilled you guys netted your first win. You’re the only other team in the NFC North I don’t despise. AP clearly had a bloodlust and wanted to tie up the W early.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
you are too kind....except we want to win the andrew luck sweepatakes, today didn't help.
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With today's win
They fall back from #4 pick to possibly as late as #9, depending on strength of schedule of any teams that are also 1-4.
That strength of schedule tiebreaker is going to be key to the Vikings’ draft position if they finish with the same win/loss record as any other teams. With 4 games against the Packers and Lions, they’re likely to lose out on that tiebreaker.
Let’s say they finish 4-12 with 3 other teams. The Vikings would likely be the last of those 4-12 teams to make their first selection. That will be interesting to watch.
I just gonna throw this out there
Ray Edwards is getting manhandled by a rookie tackle who couldn’t even win a backup spot at any position along the offensive line and has spent a significant amount of time inactive. The only reason he’s play is due to injury. Brian Robison, thank you.
Yeah,
nobody is shedding tears over Edward’s departure now. Robison shows more consistency than Ray ever seemed to. Honestly, I’m surprised Robison wasn’t the starter and Edwards the back-up after seeing the contrasting styles of play.
They always said Robison had a motor, but you could never really tell with the limited snaps he got. Now that he’s a starter, yes. He’s been very impressive.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I am shedding some tears so to speak
I wanted to trade Edwards during the 2010 draft. You need to trade a player like Edwards away for a pick in the 2nd or 3rd round at the least. Now they have to hope to get some kind of compensatory pick. I am hoping for a 4th round pick.
So yeah, losing Ray was dumb. They should have traded him earlier and let BRob play as you suggest.
But for the record they both have 12 tackles thus far through 5 games. BRob has 4.5 sacks to Ray’s 1.
Let us see how it plays out before we try and make any claims. BRob needs to keep it up for the whole season. He is going to play a lot more snaps this year. So far so good.
Im watching this damn pack game and I swear I dont know how Chris Collinswerth is evan talking because he has AR’s junk in his mouth every time he talks I swear he thinks that man is the god of FB !!!!!!!!!!!!!
... He pretty much is.
I’d put Rodgers as the 2nd best QB in the league this year, behind Brady himself. Its just facts, horrid, bitter facts.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Oct 9, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too worried about the draft
And I don’t really understand bringing it up other then to be that little annoying brother that makes faces behind mother and never gets in trouble for it.
The Vikings offense is still lifeless in the 2nd half and its about time they did something about it. I wrote down tally’s for everytime McNabb made a terrible throw or made a terrible decision. His biggest mistake was missing your #1 recieving threat WIDE open for about a 40 yard touchdown throw. He had ample amount of time as well, but instead of looking deep to short, he looked short and made a terrible throw. *2 tally’s for Mr. McNabb. In the 2nd half the Tally’s started piling up and I got to 12 and thats being generous on a couple.
He has to sit if this team wants to become better. If they’re content on sucking in the 2nd half, then by all means keep rolling the dice. Aramashodu is much more pleasing to the eye. Still dissapointed no looks went to Rudolph and very little to Percy but I give it a pass because we were running the ball so much and running out the clock in the 2nd. It was dissapointing to hear the fans boo the Vikes going into half (I know why they were) but they were up 28 points! Although I was upset that we didn’t try to put more points on the board when we still had plenty of time we were up 28-3 so it was pretty understandable to not to want to make any mistakes that could change the game.
ChiCago!! BRING EM ON.
If the Pack keep having linemen drop, Rodgers might sit himself against our pass rush because it won’t be pretty.
Lets remember today was Leif Erickson day
Of course the Vikings HAVE to win on a day dedicated to the most famous viking of all
Leif landed first
Columbus used viking maps.
"no true friend tells you only what you want to hear" the lay of loddfafnir
Ok we the game
But now some on here are upset because now we may not be able to get Luck, well too bad I don’t want him! I do not want my Vikings to be the worst team in football! It hurts to be tied for last in the division! I want to win as many games as possible and if that means on missing out of the next great thing since sliced bread so be it! WE WON! SKOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not so Complete game
Yes, They won, but if Kolb was even a little on the mark Sunday, the game would have been a lot different. Receivers were open A LOT, which is still a big issue.
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