No Billboard For You!
OK, so technically the issue is a scoreboard, not a billboard... but tomato, tomato. (That doesn't work in print, does it?)
Anyways, ThePostGame is reporting that our own Henderson brothers, E.J. the Immortal and Erin the... Lesser? wanted to donate some money back to their old high school, Aberdeen High, to help patch up some much needed repairs- scoreboard, lights, paint, etc. The total cost anticipated is roughly $50,000, and the Hendersons pitched in more than $20K towards it.
As with most such generosity, they wanted their name somewhere- the scoreboard. However, school rules apparently prohibit naming anything... anything. In fact, they wanted to name the field after Marine Lance Col. Patrick Ryan Adle... former captain of the football team and also killed in action serving our country... and the school board said: no.
Seems a little draconian, no?
Anyways, the Hendersons now want their money back. Not quite sure how I feel about this... granted, its common practice that big donations = names on stuff. And the rules regarding this again seem awfully strict, and in a pretty silly way. Heck, if the Hendersons wanted to say, re-do my room for me or something, I'd slap their family name on my door.
That said, it's a bit interesting that the Hendersons now want the money donated to their alma mater back simply because the school board has some weird rules. Erin Henderson called it a "slap in the face", which I get to an extent. But still- seems like potentially bad PR to ask for the money back just because your family name doesn't get to go up on the scoreboard. (Again, worth pointing out- a scoreboard you just bought.) Oh, and by the way, apparently the donation was just going to be the beginning- the Hendersons apparently intended to help fully refurbish the entire football area.
What say you, Viking faithful? Are the Hendersons right to ask for the money back, or is it just a little petty?
(And is anyone proud I just wrote that whole story without making a "Harry and the Hendersons" reference? Cuz it was really tough to do.)
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They couldn't work out a deal?!?
If scoreboard cannot be named..name something else after the guy! A water fountain perhaps!
Its a protest
taking money that you donated is bit childish, but I’m gonna go ahead and say they there actions are in protest to the schools terrible naming rules, not just in regards to their name not bieng on the scoreboard, the “slap in the face” to them, but also the “slap in the face” to alumnist that died serving his country which is much worse.
by dr_dan319 on Nov 18, 2011 11:42 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's immature and a bit disgusting
- If they really wanted their name on a plaque it seems they should have had the foresight to work that out pre-donation.
And,
#B. the disgusting part is (and I say this only knowing what is written in the article here) that if you expect anything in return for a gift it’s not really giving…it’s buying! I know it’s common place for people who donate large sums (especially to facilities) to be recognized in some way, but if you expect it, you taint the whole thing. I don’t think their heart is in the right place.
by DenverNorseman on Nov 18, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
This
I was literally writing about the same thing when this post arrived. Well said DenverNorseman.
Skol Vikings.
by LA Vikes Fan on Nov 18, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
DenverNorseman
Great way to put it. You should never give something to expect something back
by NYVIKINGS65 on Nov 18, 2011 1:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It is a slap in their face a bit
But don’t punish the kids because you didn’t get an award.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Nov 18, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
This is how I feel too
They had tons of fun out on a football field like this one, and by asking for the money back is just hurting the kids of this school. If they were to stop and look back on their days of playing on their High School Football field I think they would be able to get past this little bump.
Yes, it sucks to not be recognized sometimes, but this isn’t hurting the decision makers of the school. It’s only hurting the kids in some way, if not on the field but then in the classroom in some way due to budget issues. Kinda wish the school would change their rules and avoid this whole issue, but this won’t look good on the Henderson brothers if they continue on this path.
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Seems odd that the Henderson’s wanted a quid pro quo on this.
Personally I think the Marine desreves it more than any athlete, but that’s just me.
Some people just need a high five. In the face. With a chair.
Yeah why not ask for it back...
… I’d do the same thing in their place.
What is odd is that they gave the money without that understanding to begin with. Having said that, they probably won’t get the money back (if I was representing the school I wouldn’t give it back to them). But perhaps their reasoning is that this pressure they are applying will get the school to bend the rules for them. Sounds reasonable and sensible to me. Why shouldn’t they do that? Their choices for the naming wasn’t entirely selfish, either.
The school should revise their policy for other reasons, namely that those kinds of things, rightly or wrongly, tend to encourage donations. So what if someone wants their name on something, if that induces them to cough up money? So much the better for the school.
by HammeroftheGods on Nov 18, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions
I almost always agree with your comments Hammer
but not this time. TRUE charity, imo, is an act a generosity from the heart with out the expectation of recognition or your name up in lights. If it was the boys true intention to get that school new lights, paint, etc., then mission accomplished most likely. I know it’s human nature to maybe want to be noted for something like this, but to take the money back now would be kind of a douchy thing to do. I do agree that the policy is kind of stupid though.
"I saw a wino eating grapes and I was like, dude, you have to wait!" - Mitch Hedberg
Maybe instead of naming the entire scoreboard
They put a plaque on the stand saying this was built in part because of the Henderson brothers donation, etc etc. The board isn’t “named” but they still get the notoriety(?) that they wanted.
Personally?
I’d let them keep the money, but make it VERY clear that they won’t get another dime over this stupid school board policy. School boards are typically filled with wanna-be politicians, and crazy, over-concerned parents who want nothing more than to force schools and teachers to bend to their will. School boards….shudder….
SKOL Vikings!
It might be splitting hairs, but...
…I don’t think it’s a slap in the face.
And yet, I think they are absolutely entitled to get their money back IF it was understood that they were giving the money in return for naming rights. They are trying to pay tribute to someone, and they had a way to get that done. If the school doesn’t want to be part of that tribute, that’s fine. However, they should fully expect that the Henderson’s will want their money back in order to find another place where they can see their friend’s name posted proudly for all to see and remember him by.
BTW I was tempted to select OTHER and not provide a reason so that I could have you show up at my door. I don’t often get a celebrity showing up at my door…much less celebrities carrying mallets. I thought it would be kind of cool.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Two quick things-
A.) Thank you for calling me a celebrity. Too few do that. B.) Bit of a misunderstanding here- they want THEIR name on the scoreboard- the Marine’s naming rights is a completely seperate issue, I just mentioned it to show the school board does indeed apparently have it’s head waaaayyyyy up its ass (at least on that point- Ted said it best, I think the Marine’s family deserves to see the field named after him).
I'm at a loss for words.
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by KJSegall on Nov 18, 2011 10:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
A PR agent might help you...
…and getting glasses might help me. That way, you might get the celebrity treatment more often, and I’d be able to keep from confusing the issue of naming rights, etc.
Out of curiosity, were they going for Henderson Field or EJ and Erin Henderson Field? The latter makes them sound like a married couple.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
I think
that if they want the money back just because they can’t their names on the scoreboard, then it’s absolutely petty and disgusting. That would be a horrible thing to do.
If they’re doing it because they couldn’t name the stadium after the alumni who was killed and because they couldn’t get their names on the scoreboard due to the school boards rules about naming rights, then they’re completely justified. For me, it’s all about their intentions.
Caveat Emptor
The Hendersons should have known the situation going into it. If they didn’t, that was their own mistake.
Major donors typically get naming rights in schools and other institutions all over the country. It’s the least the recipient can do as a way of showing their appreciation to the donor. That the school doesn’t want to do that, is fine. Perhaps the faculty will give up a significant portion of their paychecks instead, to cover the bill, without any recognition, if the issue is that important to them. No? Somehow I don’t think we’ll be hearing about that.
However, wanting to essentially provide a memorial to a fallen soldier who once played on that gridiron is an entirely worthy cause, and the school board is populated by douche-bags if they have an issue with it. Quite frankly, they’re douche-bags for not doing it themselves, when the man died for his country. Rules? Rules can be changed. Change them. Maybe then they’d get more donations.
As for the money… personally, if it were me, and I had the kind of lucre that the Hendersons are rolling with, I’d tell them to keep the cash and never darken my doorstep again. And I’d say it publically, in the Aberdeen local paper. But it’s the Henderson’s money and if they want to fight to get it back, that’s up to them. It’s just not how I’d play it.
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From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
I'm kinda confused ?
Do they want “Henderson” on the scoreboard ?
Or do they want “Col Patrick Ryan Adel” on the scoreboard ?
If they want Henderson on the board, then the Hendersons would be selfish.
But if they want “Col. Patrick Ryan Adel” then the Hendersons are definitely in the right by wanting their money back.
Honoring the fallen soldier is the right thing to do, and I’m sure it would help bring some closure for the Adel family, and surrounding community.
The Hendersons were not the ones who brought up the fallen Marine. The school brought him up as an example of how they don’t name things after people. They were saying “If we’re not going to bend the rules to honor a Marine killed in action, we’re not going to bend the rules to honor a couple of football players who made a donation.”
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
True, if the school told them they'd get their name up, the school would be in the wrong.
Then again, if the Henderson’s goal was to let people know that they donated the money for the scoreboard, they’ve already accomplished that goal. By saying that they’re going to take the money back, everyone who goes on a sports site today knows that they donated the money. Millions of people across America and the world know it. If the school just quietly put their name on the scoreboard, the only people who would know about it would be those in the local area.
So at this point, what is the freakin point of throwing a hissy fit about your name not being up there? Everyone knows you donated the money! Get over it!
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
If it was agreed upon prior to the donation
Than the school is not honoring an agreement. That sends a bad message to people in my mind… That the school can change their minds and still accept $ w/o any intentions to handing it back over. That type of message just ain’t right.
Why don't the Henderson's just pay a bunch of kids at the high school...
…to spray paint the scoreboard every weekend? It’ll take longer to clean it than to tag it. Eventually the school will give up, and the Hendersons will have their name on the scoreboard.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Ya, cuz....
That will go over like a fart in church! ha -
If I were the Henderson’s, I would find a different way to donate instead.. Maybe something that the school board can not deny…
Maybe give the entire senior class tickets to a home game or something.
That is something I would do if I were them & got the money back.. Still give it right back to the kids, but in a way that the board can’t have a say…
Awww
I like the Henderson Bros and we had Erin visit our school and he was very nice, this doesn’t seem like him. When you think about it the school board is being stupid, they won’t let the school honor a fallen soldier or two NFL players who came from the school and they’re donating their own money and think about this, Erin was a undrafted free agent-not much money since this is his first year starting. EJ well mustve spent some money on his leg bills and probably won’t have a huge contract at the age of thirty. I say the Henderson Bro’s go for a plague or something.
by PurplePrideforLife! on Nov 18, 2011 2:52 PM CST reply actions
I think people are getting a bit confused
The way I understood the article, the Henderson Bros want their own names on the scoreboard due to their donation. The school board policy prevents that. The same school board policy also prevented the field being renamed in honor of Col. Patrick Ryan Adel’s. Two separate incidents, bumping up against the same policy. While I think the board policy is unusual, I don’t see anything wrong with it, as long as it is equally applied.
As someone else mentioned, giving in order to receive something makes it not a gift, but rather a purchase. I think the school board’s policy could be seen as a way to restrict people from trying to purchase other favors. Perhaps a wealthy football booster waving cash in front of the Athletic Director’s face in order to get a college scout to see his son play. Or, for that matter, a wealthy football booster waving cash in front of the Athletic Director’s face in exchange for not enforcing the rules when a particular player might not be getting good grades, committed an offense worthy of getting kicked of the team (underage drinking, pot, etc.). By limiting the naming rights, it takes the vanity out of the donations, and therefore it takes some of the quid pro quo out of it too.
I do commend the school board for at least being consistent. How would it look if they refused to name the field after the fallen soldier, but then allowed the Henderson’s to buy their way past the same policy?
Great point
I am not saying the school is in the wrong by not letting them name the scoreboard after the Henderson’s, however, I would argue that they’re in the wrong if they agreed upon it prior & do not pay them back… I would argue it would be the right thing for the school to do…
Basically them saying “Hey, we can’t honor your name, and since we had a misunderstanding, here is your donation back..”
Or at least look for a compromise of some sort if possible.
sounds petty but.....
It also sounds there was more to it than that. Egos on the board? Probably, they sound like they’re pretty tight assed
Still, you can’t ask your high school for the money back, can you? That’s really egotistical. Makes them look bad, unless they somehow really personally insulted the Hendersons.
Didn’t it come up before they gave the money? If they told them they would do it, then backed out, I could see it, but other than those 2 things, forget it
I don't blame either party.
If the school doesn’t want to put anybody’s name on something, fine. That’s what they want.
If the Hendersons don’t want to donate 20 large because they don’t want that massive donation to be anonymous, then that’s fine, too.
Both sides, by being stubborn, will get what they don’t want, in a way. So, whatever. Good for them.
Sounds like the Henderson's could learn a thing or two from Brian Urlacher
And I’m not just talking about football either. They should read this article to see what real philanthropy is about.
He’s also since donated a blue field turf playing field to the Lovington Football program.
"God always comes first, then grades, (and lastly) football." 11-year old phenom Demias Jimerson on his reaction to being told that he cannot score more than 2 TD's per game in his Arkansas Pee-Wee football league.
I am in the Henderson camp on this one.
There really are a lot of factors to consider, such as “Was the naming rights agreed upon prior to the donation?” If so, than the Henderson’s definitely deserve one of two things, either A) Their money back or B) Their name on the board. If this was something not really agreed upon and later asked about after the donation, than the Henderson’s made a foolish mistake.
Sadly, either action does not bode well to the public eyes of the young people who attend that school. It teaches them you don’t have to honor a promise or it teaches them you can do take-backs!
You would think the school would be proud to honor the Henderson’s. It gives inspiration to the young athletes of the school that goals can be reached (such as playing professional sports). As they are living proof that the school has helped form great football players and other professional sports players.
If the school decides to not hand back the money, than, it will leave a bad taste in the mouth of the Henderson’s.. One, they may never make any contributions, donations, etc to any other event because of how poorly this one is playing out. The school’s greedy actions may be pushing others from never donating at all. I know this would upset me & I would think to myself, “Fine, they can keep the money because they obviously can use it, but since this played out so badly, I am not going to look to contribute like that anymore..”
Now lastly, I think public recognition of Vikings players would be another good thing. A lot of Vikings players have had their run-ins with the law. This shows that some players are above the rest and do contribute back to the community. It also shows support for the team in general which would also help maybe back stadium deals, or general support of the Vikings.
So, an anonymous donation does not show positive views towards the Vikings. And as noted from the article, the Henderson’s were looking to donate even more to help out their athletic department. Their foolish rules has already prevented such great things for the kids.
In general, if you do a great thing for someone and they disrespect you or totally snuff you, you’ll regret doing such a great thing to a certain degree.
The drama of this article now may potentially prevent others from doing similar donations because of the rules that go with it.
how are you going to donate money and ask for it back
If thats your old high school they graduated from, theres no reason that something shouldnt be named after you, but you made a donation. Not only is it immature and childish to ask for it back, it also shows lack of class
....
How are you going to be a school, agree to terms & accept the money & than turn around and deny those said terms with an excuse??
Reading the stories, I haven't seen anything saying that the school "agreed to terms" that they would put the Henderson name on the board
It sounds like the way it went down was: The Hendersons found out the school needed money to replace the scoreboard, and they gave them the money, thinking that it was just a given that they would get their name plastered up there. Then, they found out the school wasn’t going to do it that way, and then got upset.
While I won’t condemn them, considering they are donating money, I do have to say that the people whose job it is to be their agents/managers are doing an AWFUL job. They’ve basically got their clients on every major sports website, saying the only way they’ll donate to charitable causes is if they get their names up in the spotlights. Not exactly the PR you want for a client.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
Well
The article fails to expand on that particular point… Was this agreed to prior or not? The way the Henderson’s claim it as a slap in the faces, I would have to think that is because it was agreed upon prior… And the way they worded how everything was to proceed forward but the school stopped them at the goal line & punted it away, once again seems to say that the school agreed to it prior. What looks to have happened is that the school agreed, but higher school board officials decided to take action & say “No, this is not how we do donations…” Well, if that is a policy they follow strictly, it is only right for the school to return the donation & should not even be waiting to be asked..
Its basic speculation, but the articles really don’t say it one way or another.. I’m just guessing from how it was worded… Not sure why they fail to leave out those finer details… The media is covering a little for one side over another, or so it seems.

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