Jared Allen Makes Peter King's Midseason All-Pro Team; Adrian Peterson Doesn't?!

Forte has accounted for something like 1/3 of the Bears’ total yards, which is ridiculous. His TD numbers are actually quite surprisingly low, but it’s hard to argue with the yards he’s racking up.

That said, Forte has never faced the kind of single-minded focus from opposition that Peterson has faced every week for the last 4 years. When Forte puts up those numbers against 9 man fronts, I’ll be impressed.

Adrian Peterson.

Who is a better running back? Adrian Peterson.

Who’s having a better year so far? I think Matt Forte.

If RBs get fairly or unfairly credited with the play of their line, we could at least be consistent about it. Chicago’s O Line is the leakiest in the NFL and I don’t like it’s run-blocking either. Good on Forte for proving he deserves a contract in an offense that originally didn’t care about running backs.

Why is Darelle Revis the DPOY over Allen?

Yards don’t show up on the scoreboard.

FJax Stats:

Rush — 132att for 721yds (5.5avg) and 6TDs
Rec — 27att for 353yds (13.1avg)

only 17 fewer yds from scrimmage, so King’s argument likely also applies to Freddie. plus, b/c of Freddie’s play, Buffalo has a better record than Chicago, and he outperforms Forte in nearly every category.

King’s a mook.

so I don’t know what King is looking at for his picks, but I do know this…

If I’m lined up at the goal line for a critical 4th and 1 there is no one in the league I would rather hand off to than Adrian Peterson

Jared Allen has been named Defensive Player of the Month for October. All-Pro status solidified!

The Vikings are stinking it up and the bonehead politicians are playing their game where they are putting the onus on Wilf to move instead of them coming up with a solution.

We all know AP is the best back. No question.

But since we are 2-6, I do no think any player deserves any honor. if I got one on a losing team I would turn it down.

And knowing these boneheads they will probably NOT draft an offensive lineman until the 4th round or later next year.

I just hope the current line can protect Ponder a little better so they do not get him hurt.

How many 8 or even 9 man fronts has Forte seen compared to AD?

How many designed screen plays compared to Peterson?

Peterson can ball, whether taking it directly from the QB or having it thrown to him. Does he have the same type of hands as LT? Maybe not right now but he can still catch and run pretty well.

Also, I’d be interesting to see the yards after contact for each one. I bet that AD blows Forte away.

I compare it similar when people compare Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith. Smith was a good running back but he also had a passing game. Defenses could focus on him because of the Playmaker and Aikman. Barry was the Lions with the exception of two good years by Herman Moore. Barry didn’t catch a lot of passes either but that’s because when defenses would see him coming out of the backfield on passing down, they had a pretty good idea he might get the ball and covered him with someone, not just zone coverage by an LB. I think AD gets the same treatment, right now, as Barry did.

Now once Ponder gets these WRs going, heh heh…..

To be honest there’s four backs that are deserving of the all-pro honor right now.

Adrian Peterson-798 yards rushing with 9 TDs, 16 receptions for 125 yards and 1 TD.
Matt Forte-672 yards rushing with 2 TDs, 38 receptions for 419 yards and 1 TD.
Lesean McCoy-754 yards rushing with 8 TDs, 23 receptions for 138 yards and 2 TDs.
Fred Jackson- 721 yards rushing with 6 TDs, 27 receptions for 353 yards.

I’d give it to AD because of the extra TD production but it’s pretty close.

Not sure how I feel about it. The thing about running backs is that there are so many ways to look at them, so many things that they are asked to do, and so many different things you might want/ expect out of them. A WR is a bit easier to judge- are they fast? Do they have good hands? Solid routes, good seperation? WR’s jobs are fairly straightforward- they’re expected to catch. Harvin aside, they’re typically not called upon to do a lot of running, and they’re usually not asked to do a ton of blocking, either (Harvin again aside, and Jenkins as well).

RBs on the other hand are expected to run, block, and catch. How much you want out of each department in a RB varies tremendously. AP’s not known as a great receiver- but that’s because he’s such a great pure runner, I don’t think our offense has asked him to do a lot of catching. (The Carolina game may either have been an aberation, or a sign of things to come.) And he’s also not asked to do a ton of blocking- although he’s very good at that, extremely underrated IMO (if you recall, in the Tampa game he absolutely stuffed Ronde Barber, the best blizting CB in the game). And of course, he’s not asked to do a ton because again a.) his real value is in the running, and b.) since he’s a physical, ‘wear down the defense’ kind of back, you don’t want to wear him out with too many blocking assignments, either.

But I think considering the reasons he’s not asked to catch a lot or block a lot is because he’s so great as a runner speaks volumes. Quite often the league nowadays treats RBs almost as second string to WRs. Lots of teams don’t even have a strongly defined #1 RB- they prefer to ‘run by committee’. And many teams don’t draft RB so that they can change the game- a lot of great runners out there today simply stepped up when they were given an opportunity, and proved themselves beyond the team’s expectations. (Arian Foster is an excellent example of this.)

The fact that Peterson was drafted to change the game, and STILL exceeded expectations, says a lot to me. It’s almost like he’s the last of a dying breed- the true running RB. So I think at the end of the day, while we can look at stats and point at them to find guys who are having a better year in a certain department than AP, or have a better game, or whatever, we should still focus on the fact that he is exactly what he’s supposed to be- the best runner in the NFL, bar none. His consistency and amount of talent in that area is mind-boggling. Forte, as PackApologist pointed out above, may give DCs more of a headache figuring out what he’s going to do… but AP still gives headaches even though DCs DO know what he’s going to do. Honestly, the fact that teams know to stack the box against him and yet he’s still got more yards on the ground than Forte, I think, proves that AP is still the best choice for RB.

And seriously… what other RB in the NFL genuinely makes DBs crap their pants by charging straight at them? You KNOW they all fear the imminent posterization.

Matt Forte stats vs Packers: 9 rush attempts, 2 yards. Let me repeat: TWO FREAKING YARDS. Adrian Peterson, IMO.