The Greatest Rivalry In College Football Happens Today; Discuss It Here
| ARMY BLACK KNIGHTS (3-8) | NAVY MIDSHIPMEN (4-7) | |
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| Date: | 10 December 2011 | Location: | Landover, MD |
| Time: | 1:30 PM Central | Stadium: | FedEx Field |
| TV: | CBS | Know Thy Enemy: | Nope, no enemies here |
| Chris' Prediction: | Navy 27, Army 23 | ||
| Final Score: | Navy 27, Army 21 | ||
Nope, I'm not talking Texas/Oklahoma or Michigan/Ohio State or Alabama/Auburn. This is, by far, the best rivalry in college football because it extends so far beyond what happens on the football field. The seniors playing in this one will soon find themselves defending our rights and freedoms because they answered a calling higher than their own, and those that don't graduate today have the same thing to look forward to down the track.
As far as the actual football is concerned, if you like running the football, this is the game for you, as these are two of the top four teams in college football when it comes to the running game. Army is the nation's leading rushing team, averaging a ridiculous 350.9. . .yes, that's three hundred and fifty. . .yards per game. Navy is 4th in the nation in that category, averaging a slightly less ridiculous (but still ridiculous) 313.7 yards/game.
They're not playing this one for the Commander-in-Chief trophy. . .that already belongs to Air Force (awesome) for having beaten both of these teams during the season. This one is all about pride, and it's still awesome.
Feel free to use this as an open thread as well.
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Big stop by the Black Knights there
Navy was threatening the red zone, but they fumble and Army jumps on it.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 2:13 PM CST reply actions
And then Army gives it right back
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Chris,
what branch of the military did you serve in? Just curious as to who you’re rooting for (if that’s anyone in this game).
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
Air Force
Still in, actually.
And if I had a rooting interest, I guess, it would be slightly towards Navy. . .worked with a lot of Navy and Marine folks as a career field instructor.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
That's awesome!
I have a few friends that I graduated with last Spring that are just starting the Air Force who really like it. I always love this game because of the rushing offenses. Im thinking we should run one of these offenses on Sunday with Webb in the game if Ponder doesn’t play…AP, Toby, Harvin and Webb option FTW!
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
Any of them weather guys?
If you know off the top of your head, I mean.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure, I'd have to ask them...I haven't been in contact with any of them for a couple of months.
I know one of them is trying out for the Air Force band after Christmas to play the Oboe, and I’m not sure about the other ones. I’ll ask if any of them are!
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
Correction
There is an Army TD and that makes it Navy 14, Army 7. Got crossed up there for a minute.
Yeah
Army keeps making mistakes, and Navy keeps capitalizing.
I think I heard the guys on the radio say that Army had something like 33 fumbles this season. . .Navy had 13 total turnovers in their first 11 games.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
There has been
a lot of talk around here about whether on not Frazier is the right guy to be our coach. Things aren’t all that rosy in Detroit as well apparently in regards to Schwartz. There was an interesting fan post over there the other day that was pretty good – http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/12/6/2616550/the-jim-schwartz-debate -. Even with the great start Detroit had, after the little confrontation with Harbaugh his popularity seems to be waning. I’d like to beat them tomorrow just to watch him pout.
Hell of a drive by Army
At the end of the half here.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:12 PM CST reply actions
Touchdown, Army!
As of now, but I think it’s getting overturned.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Or not
The touchdown stands!
Tie game with less than a minute left in the first half.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Things I pay attention to when watching football games...
Army’s field goal holder is fantastic. Seriously, those were pretty bad snaps as far as extra points are concerned.
Also, I feel like the team that throws it more might just win this game. Both of them are accustomed to the other’s particular brand of offense, which is pretty much all running.
And at halftime
We have had a total of two pass attempts, both by Army, only one of which was complete for a 10-yard gain.
Navy has 33 carries for 129 yards and two scores.
Army has 32 carries for 201 yards and two scores.
Army has lost two fumbles, while Navy has lost one.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:21 PM CST reply actions
Awesome
The Chief of Naval Operations was just on the Navy Radio network. Said after Navy lost to Air Force in overtime earlier this year, he had to put on an Air Force jersey and get his picture taken with the Chief of Staff of the Air Force.
Says he has the same bet going with the Army equivalent for this game, and that he doesn’t want to do it again.
That rules.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:26 PM CST reply actions
Alright - Who wins the Heisman?
Montee Ball – Wisconsin
Robert Griffin III – Baylor
Andrew Luck – Stanford
Tyrann Mathieu – LSU
Trent Richardson – Alabama
I’ll predict Griffin III.
I don't really have a clue who'll win,
but I’m rooting for Robert Griffin III for sure.
In order (IMO)
Griffin III
Ball
Luck
Richardson
Mathieu
I think Mathieu would have a better chance if he wasn’t a sophomore, but the hype on him going into next year is going to be off the scale, since it’s entirely possible/likely that the four guys that he’s going to New York with are all going to be pros next year.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm going to have to go
Griffin, Luck, Ball (his O-Line is his production), Richardson, Mathieu. I think pretty much everyone but Mathieu is going pro, so I think Mathieu is going to snag it next year.
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What on earth was that?
Was that a touchdown. . .pass!?
This is Army/Navy, for crying out loud. . .that’s not supposed to happen!
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:54 PM CST reply actions
Army's rush offense is crazy
They’ve had five guys carry the ball so far. One guy has 4 carries for 7 yards.
The other four guys are averaging 7.8, 6.6, 7.3, and 8.0 yards per carry.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 3:59 PM CST reply actions
There's Navy's second turnover
Fumble by Proctor gives the Black Knights the ball at the Navy 45.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions
And Army nearly gave it right back again
But Steelman falls on the fumble.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Navy completes a pass!
It’s breaking loose in the nation’s capital!
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 4:13 PM CST reply actions
Tyrann Mathieu Heisman video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4zbJPowJX8
Vikes should try to draft this kid in 2013. Such a beast.
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
Yeah, but he's pretty small.
so hopefully, if we can pull it together next season we might still be able to snag him in the first round of the draft.
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
TV just said
That Mark Ingram beat out Toby Gerhart in the 2009 Heisman final by 28 points, the closest vote ever. Guess I was unaware of that.
Yeah it was the closest Heisman race between two players, ever.
I really think Toby should have won, but I think this year will be the closest overall Heisman race that’s happened in a looong time.
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
Go Navy
This is too close (at least compared to usual).
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FG Navy
Now 24-21 early in 4th
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And another Army turnover
Navy just put together a 9-plus minute drive. . .the Army defense has gotta be pissed.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 10, 2011 4:32 PM CST reply actions
My grandfather was in the Navy
So I’ve always cheered for the Middies during the Army-Navy game.
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Navy had to settle for another FG
Now 27-21
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It was settling
but that kicker is 8/13 on FGs this year (though 3/4 now from 40+, with a long of 54 in their season opener).
I keep waiting on news about the new attempt by the Lakers to get CP3
Like Tom Petty sang “the waiting is the hardest part.” It’s driving me nuts that updates on it are few and far between.
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That was a neat graphic on the screen
First 108 (I think) meetings, the average margin of victory was 0.9 pts.
Last 9 (all Navy wins and longest such streak in series): Over 25 pts
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4th down. C'mon Navy! Hold them
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Navy with the stop!
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The Middies convert 4th & Inches
with 2:04 left because Army jumped offsides.
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Yes it was
And now Navy has won 10 straight against Army.
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Here we go. Heisman time.
Who’s gonna win? Robert Griffin III appears to be the favorite at this point but the voting is expected by some to be close. We have:
LSU’s fine CB Tyrann Mathieu – “Honey Badger” has become a force for the top ranked Tigers and is also an excellent kick returner.
Andrew Luck, the fine Stanford QB. Projected by almost everyone to be the #1 pick in next years NFL draft.
Trent Richardson, the fine Alabama RB. Richardson and Alabama watched the SEC championship game from home but will get another shot at LSU in the Allstate BCS National Championship Game. He turned in 203 yards rushing and a receiving touchdown in the Tide’s final game, a 42-14 win over Auburn.
Robert Griffin III, The excellent Baylor QB. Griffin started strong in Baylor’s 48-24 win over Texas, connecting with Kendall Wright for a 59-yard TD on Baylor’s first series. Griffin passed for 320 yards and two scores and ran for 32 yards and two more as the Bears earned consecutive wins over the Longhorns for the first time since 1991-92.
And finally, Wisconsin’s fine RB, Montee Ball. Screw Wisconsin anyway but (and I haven’t mentioned this for like 4 or 5 days but I went to high school with Bielema and he is a pretty good guy. He is stronger than shit, I can tell you that).
Oh shit that’s Monty Hall! Close enough.
And RG3 Gets the Heisman!
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
When we were younger
I boxed Beily’s older brother, Barry, and he hit me so hard that I have migraines to this day. I ought to sue him, but I suppose the statute of limitations has run out. fucker.
love the game
i got to play in it 2 years and was on the sidelines with injury my other 2. best game i played in ever, nothing like the fans and the excitement. next to that game my favorite was beating nd for the first time and knocking the #16 team off (wake forest at the time).

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