Minnesota Vikings At Detroit Lions - Third Quarter Open Thread
by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 1:52 PM CST
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PrintThe Minnesota Vikings turned the ball over four times in the first half, and the direct result of those four turnovers was 24 Detroit Lions points. As a result, we stand at halftime with the Minnesota Vikings trailing by a score of 31-14. to their credit, while it would have been really easy for the Vikings to just roll over in this one, they apparently have no intention of doing so.
Cedric Griffin still hasn't seen the field since the second defensive series of the game, and is apparently pretty angry over on the bench. Take that for what you will.
On a positive note, the Vikings have gotten to Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford four times already, with three of those sacks going to Jared Allen. Those three sacks give Allen 100.5 for his career, and 17.5 for the season, which is a career high. That means he's also 5 sacks away from tying Michael Strahan's single-season record of 22.5 sacks with 3.5 games left to go. (Kevin Williams got the other Minnesota sack.)
Those numbers are subject to change, of course. . .the radio guys seem to think that those sacks could get credited to somebody else.
But that's where we sit after two quarters of play, folks. . .can't get much worse than what we saw in the first half, so let's see if things get better in the second.
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seems like we have this conversation every week
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I thought Ballard got one of those 4 sacks.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
glad Ballard is out there more and more
he appears to have developed quite nicely.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
I don't even see how you can call us a team in "rebuilding mode"
I’m not even sure how we can even get one victory next year…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 1:54 PM CST reply actions
Read the sig sir.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
They didn't start the season in rebuilding mode.
It took six weeks to start the rookie QB. Took longer to start clearing out dead wood and play younger talent.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Um no
But if I did it would be a 72 gremlin.. Or maybe a Yogo
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
if I were rich enough to give a car to my spouse for christmas
it wouldn’t be a lexus
Well guys it could be worse.
I mean we could be losing to the LIONS!
oh crap.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
please cut l booker...
2 plays, 2 fumbles
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 1:55 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
All I want for Christmas
Is to cut half of the Vikings team and maybe the coaches, too.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
lets get another out route to a slo white dude
pick 6 again?
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 1:56 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Sherels should something..
Unless his name Changes Magically into Percy Harvin..he should continue to kneel the ball in the endzone everytime
re: Ced
bout time he got benched.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
We need to change the offensive play calls...
They are jumping the underneath stuff, put in some double moves
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
I like Gerhart
But after today, and last week you almost have to wonder what we would get for him if we dangled him out for a trade
ponder is horrible
why they even let him throw on our own end of the field is beyond me…
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 1:57 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Oh look you're back bitching
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
Yeah, rough timing on that comment.
I’ve been there before. :-)
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Sometimes I feel sorry for people standing in front of Toby
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Gonna be a long half
So let’s SMASH ’EM UP!! #AlwaysSunny
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by Eric J. Thompson on Dec 11, 2011 1:58 PM CST reply actions
I gotta give you guys credit for hanging in there...
I got shot off the horse pretty early this year.
Draft is going to be great TV.
Five turnovers for the Vikings
Jeebus.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 1:59 PM CST reply actions
how can anyone defend ponder and be serious
this is really unbelievable
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 2:00 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
He is a rookie playing hurt behind a horrible offensive line with a couple good receivers and lots of bad ones.
While Peterson is hurt, Ponder is the second-best offensive player the Vikings have, behind only Harvin. As a rookie, this experience will help him improve later in his career.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
wow this is putting a new spin on our offense.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
I'm thinking about going outside to wander aimlessly in my underwear
Freezing to death would be less painful than this game..
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:01 PM CST reply actions
Is he laughing
At our offensive line and our receiving corps, too? Or just at Ponder?
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Off topic:
Has anyone seen Rise of the Planet of the Apes and if so, can you tell me why the police officers are trying to hit the apes with batons and not machine guns and such?
Gun control laws. English police officers can’t carry guns, and American police officers are next.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I think this shows what happens when you do not practice much all week
Too bad for Ponder. He will bounce back.
Yes, he will
Because every single new Vikings QB will lead them to the Super Bowl and will make the hall of fame.
I agree....
The kid has like .5 seconds to throw the ball everytime he drops back. He rookie and I see alot I like. Alot of bad throws today yes, but our oline is the worst oline in nfl history1
by Fantasy Master on Dec 11, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
could his hip be to blame for SOME of this...??
not making excuses, i’m just curious.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
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yeah 'cause
the hip bones connected to the head bone
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by PurpleValhalla on Dec 11, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
please add qb to our list of needs
or we will suck for 5 more yrs.
would all you ponder-a-holics really pass up on barkley or on rg3?
really?
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 2:02 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
give it a rest
where were you last week when Ponder nearly threw for 400yds??
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
OMG...dude, we got it...
you don’t like Ponder. Your not swaying the crowd, so stop ruining the thread.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
shut up man
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
Im thinking Florida State
Is equivalent to a Jr High…if this guy is smart and got done in 2.5 years, he certainly makes a lot of dumb/same mistakes over and over.
Easily the worst game of his career.
He is only a rookie though.
by All Day, All Night on Dec 11, 2011 2:02 PM CST reply actions
Ponder really trying to do way too much out there
And making very poor decisions
by Ryan Aeschliman on Dec 11, 2011 2:02 PM CST reply actions
Still disagree. :-)
He’s getting roughed up.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
I know
Hes a rookie. I know he has a bad line. But some of these desicions… good god.
by AP's Future Replacement on Dec 11, 2011 2:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
He needs to be benched
After being responsible for 4 turnovers. Thats what neesd to happen.
im sick of hearing hes only a rookie
his play is simply ridiculous
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 2:04 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Yeah, who cares that almost every QB to every play the game sucked their rookie year.
"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."
by PurplePeopleEaters on Dec 11, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
*ever
"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."
by PurplePeopleEaters on Dec 11, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Its no all on the qb
The oline is crap. Loadholt gets owned everyplay, Charlie Johnson gets owned to. Bad throws yes but can we get a real line already.
by Fantasy Master on Dec 11, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Rogers was so bad...they did'nt even play him for three years...
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Alex Smith is looking legitimate this year..
I’m not ready to give up on Ponder in his first year..especially after only 1 years
hmm..musgrave is supposed to be a good qb coach..
our O-line definitely isn’t easing him into anything
by PURPpplEATER on Dec 11, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Not scraping him for the season.
just giving a young, injured QB a chance to regroup for the next one. This is brutal.
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Greg Coleman reporting
That Joe Webb will be in at quarterback on the next series.
Sounds like the late hit from Tulloch made Ponder’s injury worse to the point where he’s not going to be able to come back in.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions
Joe Webb coming in
I support Frazier substituting Webb in for Ponder for hte rest of the game.
Ponder got buried by a dirty Lions player and he’s been hurting already in this game.
Psychologically, Ponder is fine, but at this point, that’s plenty of lessons for Ponder to learn from for today.
Webb can use some reps, too.
Is there any way they can put a leash on Jim Schwartz?
He is complaining waayyy to much about that block hit on Ponder when he would be going crazy had we done that to Stafford
Jim Schwartz is Captain Meltdown. He is never going to lead the Lions to the Super Bowl because he has no self-control as a person.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
jim Schwartz needs to act like he's been there
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
We got Rudolf, who has played maybe a couple of downs...
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I know right?
Why does it feel like we have no WR’s or TE’s on offense..it’s either DA, Harvin, or Shank..where the hell is everyone else(and for some reason Harvin is out most of the time)..
by PURPpplEATER on Dec 11, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think we keep playing Ponder
get out of the game will just lower his confidence. He can quit now, he should fight and come from the hole by his own
Less Whiskey, More beer..
It looks like you need to slow your roll….
or
Your a Packer Fan….I kid, I kid.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
our QB gets pounded
And Leslie Frazier’s defense will continue to have the killer instinct of a mayfly. Reminiscent of 2009 championship game…..
I'm talking about playing with a little violence
Not dirty but we need some bad attitudes on D. Phat pat left and now we have no balls
I gotta agree
Don’t hit the quarterback 25 yards from the play, period, or you will have me to answer to. No on is skeered of Frazier, though…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I've decided that the Lions
are a bunch of thugs. I used to like the attitude, and I used to like Jim Schwartz, but these guys are like 22 Willi Pletts out there. #minnesotanorthstarsgoonreference.
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by Ted Glover on Dec 11, 2011 2:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Sucks for Ponder to get hurt on a cheap play like that.
I’m excited to see what Webb has to offer. Is he a legit backup? Is he trade-able? Should we finally make him a WR?
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by PurplePeopleEaters on Dec 11, 2011 2:09 PM CST reply actions
guys we need a franchise qb
ive seen enough.
are we really going to pass up on one of this years studs, and compound the horrible reach for ponder?
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 2:09 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
again, where were you last week??
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
Can we block people?
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
Well the same geniuses that used the 12th pick for ponder
Also built this offensive line. I just dont get the blind faith that that our drafting and free agent signing were an A+
by DallasGopher on Dec 11, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Hey everyone look at the funny monkey
see how dances in his cage
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
I just mean that he is an insigniicant little thing drawing attention to him self
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
Hey, it's los vikingos
griping about Ponder. I gotta say, I didn’t see this coming at all.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
This is the most shocking development
Since the revelation that there is gambling going on at Rick’s Cafe.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Gambling...at Rick's?
I’m shocked…SHOCKED to find gambling going on at Rick’s.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
He won't respond to anybody directly...
has the makings of a Troll.
We may have been infiltrated…??
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Rogers had three years to sit on the bench...
and still came in and made a bunch of mistakes.
What makes you think that any of the college QB’s will be better?…A hope and a dream.
This kid, Ponder, has shown moxie and talent….and also made a bunch of rookie mistakes.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
I think patience is not a trait you possess.
by All Day, All Night on Dec 11, 2011 2:11 PM CST reply actions
My friend was pissing me off today too.
He doesn’t realize that Ponder is a Rookie playing on a shitty football team.
wow I come back and Webb is in..
Looks like Frazier is looking for Luck next yera?
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Oh thank God.
Well wait…
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Good news if he throws a TD pass
People won’t be able to bring that up anymore…
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
what if he doesn't??
Webb-a-geddon will begin.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
I disagree with pulling out Ponder
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 11, 2011 2:14 PM CST reply actions
I don't think he's out because of performance
I think he’s out because he physically can’t go at this point.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
It only works when the defenders get scattered. Wild Cat doesn't do that.
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Wildcat
The advantage of the Wildcat is an extra blocker. The offense breaks the huddle, and the normal QB splits wide.The wildcat QB lines up to take the snap. Instead of the QB handing it off, the QB runs with the ball. The normal QB has to be a good receiver.
Today, Ponder could barely run as he was playing hurt. So the Wildcat was completely out.
To use Joe Webb as the wildcat QB would require that he take a lot of snaps as wide receiver, so that the defense doesn’t suspect that the Wildcat is coming.
If you substitute Joe Webb for Christian Ponder in the line-up, the defense will respond by putting more men in the box, and possibly making a personnel substitution of their own.
So the short answer is that the Wildcat wouldn’t work for us unless Joe Webb plays a lot of receiver and Ponder is healthy enough to catch the ball and run some.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Frankly
Im suprised he started then. Its another questionable decision by Frazier and his staff….they are starting to add up. Last year was a pass but this year he seems lost on the sideline. and worse yet he kind of really doesnt have an answer for some things. But thats my take watching and reading from Dallas.
by DallasGopher on Dec 11, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
it was great that he started
Ponder needs experience. He also needs experience playing hurt. The Vikings need to see him playing hurt to help get him trained up.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
All conventional thinking
is out the window till next year at this point medicine. It makes no difference now imo.
Ok, Harvin and Rudolf both out again
Whatever happened to pressing an advantage?
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:15 PM CST reply actions
Toby Gerhart sweeps to the outside this year: 20
Yards: -2. It never, ever works.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
Has to be raw...
…he’s been on the scout team all year but for 1 and a half weeks. Same as last year pretty much.
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Maybe a little faster..
But you have to admit that they look very similar out there..rushing TD’s included
by PURPpplEATER on Dec 11, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
WEBB!
"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."
by PurplePeopleEaters on Dec 11, 2011 2:16 PM CST reply actions
OK I'll say it
Where was the defense there?! Great run though.
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by Eric J. Thompson on Dec 11, 2011 2:16 PM CST reply actions
Joe F. WEBB
Still doesn’t have a TD pass. Just sayin’. :)
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
Nope, had two running TD's against Philly, I think, but no pass TD's.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
Yeah, those points don't count.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
again, he should be a WR...
…he didn’t get that TD making a throw…
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
Does it matter? QBs can run.
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by PurplePeopleEaters on Dec 11, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
ponder runs and gets praised for it...webb runs and gets insulted for it.
by REVENGE4WEBB on Dec 11, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
i wasn't insulting him
merely inferring that his talent is wasted as a backup QB.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
QBs also pass...
…how many completions does Webb have…??
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
(again, i'm not insulting Webb -- but he's been on the bench all season when he could have been making plays like that as a WR...)
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
Yes, you are insulting him.
He scores on his first drive, and you go back to the script about not scoring via pass.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
whatever, man
clearly not gonna change your mind.
if anything, i’m insulting our coaching staff for keeping a hell of a player on the bench for the entire season.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
He should at least be on the field to make the defense have another playmaker to cover
He’s a playmaker, he just proved it.
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by Marcus.Grayson on Dec 11, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
These plays ONLY work because the field is stretched...
…as defenders play the pass and spread out. Then his delayed run and speed make him tough to zero in on.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
That's it...This Oline was buit
for Webb…
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Holy God~
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
We should call that play every time
"Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend."
Bruce Lee (1/27/40 - 7/20/73)
They forget he has 4.3 speed...
He really needs to line up as a wideout more than Aro…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:17 PM CST reply actions
I think the only problem is that with all the time he's had to spend at QB in practice...
he hasn’t picked up the routes very well.
We have got to get him the ball more.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Told you...
let Webb-a-geddon begin…
The arguments are raging up and down the thread.
This will be a good game.
Unfortunetly, PH providing for my FF team is over. boo.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Can we have
Allen, Harvin, and Peterson for Veep?
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
I will say that the Lions sure didn't see that coming.
Ok Webb we need about three more of those…
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Joe Webb
Channels his inner Pedro Cerrano and says, “F*** you, Jobu, I’LL DO IT MYSELF!”
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:19 PM CST reply actions
Make sense
In your comments…practice it instead of trolling
Webb made the run because the defense was on the other side of the field covering WRs
That is what is different from lining up at WR and running down field. He looks good when no one is there. Last week he had to push off on Champ Bailey to make a catch that he still caught with his body. He is far from a WR.
It was a flag so that is all I know
It is besides the point though. When he lines up outside CBs can run with him. When he nreaks contain from the pocket he has a wide open field. A big difference.
Or he might be a frickin awesome QB.
Who knows? Getting the guy off the scout team allows us to start letting him prepare as a QB.
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I hear ya'
There’s a reason why Webb isn’t a WR….maybe he can’t catch!
Speed will only get him so far, he’s gotta have hands too!
Totally agree about why his scrambles work.
He has to be at QB to get the defenders spaced liked that. WebbCat won’t do it.
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good points
I strongly believe that Webb would be great to keep for the long-term specifically as our backup quarterback. What a great change of pace for Christian Ponder.
Webb is never going to start as wide receiver or anything like that.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Glad Longwell made such an effort there..
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by PurplePeopleEaters on Dec 11, 2011 2:20 PM CST reply actions
The Lions will get pounded in the playoffs if they make it and play like this.
Too many stupid mistakes.
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by Eric J. Thompson on Dec 11, 2011 2:21 PM CST reply actions
you guys all kill me for criticizing ponder
but i did the same last week whrn he threw all those picks. did anyone listen to barreiro this week? basically, saying the same as me.
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 2:23 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Well, if you agree with Dan Berreiro
then you are obviously wrong.
"Go hard. I mean, like relentless. I want a bunch of coaches that coach like their hair’s on fire, and I want a football team that goes for four to six seconds (per play) with relentless effort." OSU Coach Urban Meyer.
Sooo...did Ponder get benched or are we pulling him for safety reasons?
I’m so confused…don’t have the game on right now.
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Safety reasons
He took a cheap shot and limped off.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, cool.
Thank you. I saw that dirty hit and I hope he gets suspended.
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Injury reasons
His hip pointer got aggravated more when Tulloch hit him apparently
He got nailed
On a blindside hit 25 yards from the ball…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 11, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Stop you!!!
See I can make asinine comments too
ha... Asher completely fooled.
what a shocker.
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Schwartz
is easily my least favorite NFL coach after this year.
Schwartz
is a piece of crap. I hope the Lions never win a playoff game.
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sounds like he'll be OK
Greg Coleman reported.
I think he has a big future with the Vikings, but he is going to have to work really hard in his strength and conditioning over the offseason, which maybe begins now for him.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Mistral Raymond hurt
Because we haven’t had an injury in the secondary in at least 15 minutes.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions
They're gonna start pullin fans out from the seats soon
Cuz of injuries and cuz Asher allen is terribad
I think pulling Ponder was good for him actually
HE was clearly struggling and showing some really good things too. Considering he did not practice much it was time to say enough is enough.
It is not like another quarter and a half is going to hurt him if he does not play.
He will start next week.
Oh yes he will,
he’ll play next week. He had a short week and played with a hip.
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For those of you out there that don't believe Webb could play QB give your heads
A Shake. This guy would really give defenses nightmares.
No he wouldn't. It's the Vick effect where the first few games, defenses don't know what to do. Eventually teams would figure it out.
by Darth Paxton on Dec 11, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Like Cam Newton? Tim Tebow?
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Come talk to me when either one of them have won a playoff game.
Tebow needed a late interception to beat a two-win team without their best player last week by three points.
by Darth Paxton on Dec 11, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Funny.
Not sure how you can argue that defenses don’t end up playing differently when a QB is incredibly mobile. Less in coverage is a good thing for a QB.
And by the way, the Lions played against Webb last year. They also prepared for him this week due to Ponder not practicing until getting 2nd team reps on Friday. This isn’t a team that’s been caught by surprise by Webb.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Vick had a really great year too before being slowed.
It’ll take a bit to figure out the runners… but it will happen.
He'll be a great backup quarterback for the Vikings
It’s an important position, and with Webb we have the backup position filled and locked down for the long run.
by medicineball on Dec 11, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Even my 75 years old mom who hasn't wathced a vikes game this year knew to challenge that
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 11, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Morris Claiborne,
if we had an offensive line, you would be a Viking come April.
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ATTN: TED
Can you throw the fourth quarter thread out there, please?
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:31 PM CST reply actions
Christian Ponder's first year reminds me of Matt Stafford
Horrible line, one good WR, only 2 wins, Similar completion %, similar amount of games played, and some injury history. Difference is Stafford threw 20 picks and 13 tds while Ponder is even at 11 each. I say Stafford turned out alright.
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, it's just that your's is stupid.
wow good points.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
True.
Plus even for those who don’t think Ponder is the future we KNOW we can’t do shit with this secondary and O-line. Fix what we KNOW is broken first then see if Ponder can hack it with some support.
Common Sense...
a welcomed addtion to this thread.
Thanks…
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
frazier should have challenged
cmon!!!! get in the game!!
by los vikingos on Dec 11, 2011 2:32 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
shoot me
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
This always seems to help too...
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Fourth quarter thread
A little late, but go go go!
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 11, 2011 2:38 PM CST reply actions
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