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2012 NFL Draft Order (Updated December 19th)

Continuing from previous posts, this is the current 2012 NFL draft order. This of course will vary slightly game by game for each team because of the strength of schedule tiebreakers, and I will not include any divisional standing/playoff consideration as those will change--all non-playoff teams constitute the top 20 picks, regardless of record--- but this is the updated current NFL draft order for 2012:

  1. Indianapolis Colts (1-13; SOS of .541)
  2. St. Louis Rams (2-12; SOS of .566)
  3. Minnesota Vikings (2-12; SOS of .587)
  4. Cleveland Browns (4-10; SOS of .495)
  5. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-10; SOS of .531)
  6. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-10; SOS of .551)
  7. Washington Redskins (5-9; SOS of .495) This pick is currently a coin flip between Washington & Miami
  8. Miami Dolphins (5-9; SOS of .495)
  9. Buffalo Bills (5-9; SOS of .500) This pick is currently a coin flip between Buffalo & Carolina
  10. Carolina Panthers (5-9; SOS of .500)
  11. Philadelphia Eagles (6-8; SOS of .505)
  12. Kansas City Chiefs (6-8; SOS of .510)
  13. Arizona Cardinals (7-7; SOS of .459) This pick is currently a coin flip between Arizona & Tennessee
  14. Tennessee Titans (7-7; SOS of .459)
  15. Seattle Seahawks (7-7; SOS of .490)
  16. San Diego Chargers (7-7; SOS of .510)
  17. New York Giants (7-7; SOS of .520)
  18. Chicago Bears (7-7; SOS of .526) This pick is currently a coin flip between Chicago & Oakland
  19. Oakland Raiders (7-7; SOS of .526) Traded to Cincinnati Bengals (Carson Palmer trade)
  20. Dallas Cowboys (8-6; SOS of .469)
  21. Cincinnati Bengals (8-6; SOS of .474)
  22. New York Jets (8-6; SOS of .500)
  23. Denver Broncos (8-6; SOS of .531)
  24. Atlanta Falcons (9-5; SOS of .464) Traded to Cleveland Browns (Julius Jones trade)
  25. Detroit Lions (9-5; SOS of .510)
  26. Houston Texans (10-4; SOS of .454)
  27. Baltimore Ravens (10-4; SOS of .490)
  28. Pittsburgh Steelers (10-4; SOS of .531)
  29. New Orleans Saints (11-3; SOS of .429) Traded to New England Patriots (Mark Ingram trade)
  30. New England Patriots (11-3; SOS of .464)
  31. San Francisco 49ers (11-3; SOS of .480)
  32. Green Bay Packers (13-1; SOS of .439)

As for the Vikings' draft position/Strength of Schedule battle with St. Louis, it stands as:

Minnesota Vikings current opponents' strength of schedule: 115-81; SOS of .587

St. Louis Rams' current opponents' strength of schedule: 111-85; SOS of .566

Factoring in remaining schedules:

St. Louis Rams: Pittsburgh (10-4), San Francisco (11-3)

Minnesota Vikings: Washington (5-9), Chicago (7-7)

So when those are factored in we get:

Minnesota Vikings' current opponents' strength of schedule including remaining games: 127-97; SOS of .567

St. Louis Rams' current opponents' strength of schedule including remaining games: 132-92; SOS of .589

Keep in mind that if they tie in overall strength of schedule, the next tiebreaker is conference record, and the Vikings are currently 2-8 with the Rams being 1-10. We likely lose that tiebreaker. It's going to be really, really close, folks, but the Vikings did well this week in the SOS tiebreaker with the Rams. As a reminder of what to be watching for: Uncommon games on our schedules:

St. Louis: Philadelphia, New York Giants, Dallas, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Seattle (2x), Arizona, San Francisco (2x)

Minnesota: Carolina, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, Kansas City, San Diego, Oakland, Denver, Chicago (2x), Detroit (2x), Green Bay

So again, we should be rooting for the teams of the NFC East, AFC North, and NFC West, and against the teams of the NFC South, the AFC West, and the NFC North if we want the #2 pick. And of course rooting for St. Louis and Indianapolis.

I will continue to update this order throughout the season (including playoffs).

This FanPost was created by a registered user of The Daily Norseman, and does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of the site. However, since this is a community, that view is no less important.

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Meh

I’ve decided it doesn’t matter if we’re #2 or #3. We’ll get BPA and fill a need at the same time either way.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 18, 2011 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

It might matter a lot...

both for trading purposes or for Matt Kalil. I think the vast majority of Vikings’ fans (myself included) would much, much, much rather get Kalil than Claiborne or Blackmon. And we may have to have the #2 pick to accomplish that.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

and we may not...

I’m working on a fanpost about how the Rams may not choose Kalil if they get the 2nd overall pick… I will try to post it here today.

by WIPurplePride on Dec 19, 2011 6:55 AM CST up reply actions  

sure they may not...

but i wouldn’t bet against it with bradford’s injuries. tough to pass on a 10-year pb-level LT. and that’s what i think most of us (and scouts) think kalil is. in the mold of long/thomas.

by DJSkillz on Dec 19, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Tough to pass on a talented WR too, though

They already have like 3 high-round tackles. And their WR situation is worse than our’s is. If Blackmon has a big combine, I see them going for him.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 19, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

eh...

i’m not high on Blackmon. I’d rather sign Colston or Bowe in FA. I don’t think he can get separation at the NFL level. We shall see.

by DJSkillz on Dec 19, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he was refering to the Rams

At least by the 3 high round picks on tackles it looks like it.

by VikesFanInTulsa on Dec 19, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, I didn't note it in the above...

but the Colts’ win did give us a SLIM sliver of hope for the #1 pick, though the wins by the Cardinals and Lions’ just about closed that shut. I do happen to think that the last two Colts games are winnable (a Schaub-less Texans team and a Gabbert-led Jaguars team) but that’s asking a lot for a team that was 0-13 to go 3-0 in the final 3 weeks, not to mention us losing to the Redskins and Hainie-led Bears. Hopefully the Redskins show up to play next week again and Cutler comes back for week 17 in what is a must-win for the Bears.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

It worked for the Dolphins

They were 0-7, but once they won that first game, they got on a roll. I’d say the Titans are a more difficult team to face than the Jags, for sure. The Texans would be an interesting battle.

I like the Colt’s chances of getting another win on their schedule over our’s. The ‘Skins just handed the Giants their ass on a platter, and then we play the Bears again. Though they don’t have Forte or Cutler. Yet. But with this secondary, I don’t know if it will matter who’s QB’ing.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 18, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd love to pick #1 in this draft, but I could also see the Vikings winning at least one of the

last two games – not sure what the Browns SOS is, but if the Vikings win out (could see this happening more then the Colts, Rams or Browns) then we could find ourselves with the same number of wins as the Browns.

My best case scenereo should the Vikings pick #3 and if the Browns were thinking of selecting a QB – trade the #3 to the Browns for the #4 and and the Falcons pick that belongs to the Browns (if they Browns thought another team was trying to move up and select the QB the Browns wanted). Then with the 4th pick trade it down to the next team (Redskins, Dolphins, Seahawks) and pick up some more picks.

by KevNW on Dec 21, 2011 2:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh I don’t think the Browns would trade both first rounds picks to move up one slot. I doubt they are even really considering a QB. I think they would take Trent Richardson and a Michael Floyd, maybe a DE, but yeah don’t see them taking a QB.

by WIPurplePride on Dec 21, 2011 5:59 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed...

don’t think they’d do that deal either. though i wouldn’t count them out of a qb, especially depending on mccoy’s concussion issues. i think ideally we finish #2, they finish #6 or so, and they get enamored with rg3. if that happens I could see a trade of that magnitude. though moving down to #6 we’d likely lose out on kalil.

if we win 2 more and the browns lose their remaining 2 i don’t see how we could possibly have a higher pick than them. our SOS is a full 92 points higher than theirs right now; that’s pretty much an impossible gap to make up in 2 weeks. still, i don’t see us winning our final 2 games when we’ve managed to go 2-12 so far. the redskins and bears are both better teams than us.

by DJSkillz on Dec 21, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

How are you calculating this?

Vikings opponents:

Green Bay (13-1)
New Orleans (11-3)
Atlanta (9-5)
Detroit (9-5)
Denver (8-6)
(Chicago) (7-7)
Oakland (7-7)
Arizona (7-7)
San Diego (7-7)
Kansas City (6-8)
Carolina (5-9)
(Washington) (5-9)
Tampa Bay (4-10)

Rams opponents:

Green Bay (13-1)
New Orleans (11-3)
(San Francisco) (10-3) - Monday Night
(Pittsburgh) (10-3) - Monday Night
Baltimore (10-4)
Dallas (8-6)
Cincinnati (8-6)
NY Giants (7-7)
Seattle (7-7)
Arizona (7-7)
Philadelphia (6-8)
Washington (5-9)
Cleveland (4-10)

Vikings opponents have a record of 98-84, or .538
Rams opponents have a record of 106-74, or .589

As of today (and counting a Chargers win over Baltimore), the Vikings would have the #2 pick, St Louis the #3.

To make it even more interesting, the Colts opponents have a record of 100-81, or .552 - if they manage to win again and finish in a 3-way tie with MN and STL, the Vikings could actually end up with the first overall pick.

by rovibe on Dec 18, 2011 9:47 PM CST reply actions  

I have not factored in remaining games to the current standings...

those will go on them as those games are played. as i list them below the standings for rams/vikings.

btw, yours do not take into account opponents each team has played twice. so far those would be:
Vikings: Packers, Lions (Bears soon)
Rams: Cardinals, Seahawks (49ers soon)

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

But

Playing a team twice doesn’t mean you count that opponent’s record twice.

Just checked ESPN – they posted on Twitter Vikes at #2..

by rovibe on Dec 18, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

yes it does...

that’s the whole point of “strength of schedule”. if you play a tougher team twice, that absolutely factors in.

espn is wrong. we do have the #2 pick if you project it out, but as of RIGHT NOW we do not. right NOW our SOS is higher than the rams’ by a good margin.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

and heck...

all you have to do is check espn’s own current SOS (go to standings) to figure out that that statement on twitter is wrong (and the way SOS is calculated).

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

absolutely...

how much?

i’m 100% confident in this; i’m a draft guy.

think about what you’re saying; that would make absolutely no sense. you’d essentially be lopping off 3 games from every teams’ schedule by that logic, with no consequence whatsoever to who they played in those games. that’s the whole point of strength of schedule.

if i play three 13-3 teams twice and you play three 3-13 teams twice you can be damn sure that’s going to factor in to the strength of schedule.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I shouldn't do this before we bet, but...

“Strength of schedule, which is the combined win-loss record for all 16 of the team’s opponents in the previous season (ties count as a half win and half loss). The team with the lower strength of schedule (i.e. their opponents compiled fewer wins) is granted the earlier pick in round one.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares, we need Indy to win.

well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?

by krinkle on Dec 18, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

for luck, sure...

but i think we’re going to need to get #2 if we want kalil, which we should. so it matters.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

if we got the 1 and Indy got the 2, what are the odds, we don’t trade it to Indy for the 2 (and Kalil) the 1st next year plus the 2nd rounder this year and 2nd or 3rd rounder next? that way we get Kalil that we need, Indy gets Luck, whom they clearly want, and we get the extra picks we need to fill positions of need? wouldn’t that be the ideal

Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?

by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

i'd have to heavily consider that...

though i still might be inclined to just take luck then and trade ponder for a 1st to get a LT. would be an extremely tough call IMO. and i like ponder a lot.

by DJSkillz on Dec 20, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

What?

There is no way in hell Indy would trade us this years 2nd overall pick, the 33rd overall pick and next years 1st and 2nd rounder for Luck.

by Bjorno on Dec 20, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't know...

i wouldn’t be totally shocked.

however, i would be shocked if we got the #1 pick; it’s not happening IMO.

by DJSkillz on Dec 20, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably not...

But I am willing to bet that Indy would be satisfied with Robert Griffith III if they were not able to get Luck.

Then again, another team with a middle-of-the-road pick would probably give up the farm for Luck.

by Bjorno on Dec 21, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Way too much for a team that clearly needs the players and not just the QB.

by WIPurplePride on Dec 21, 2011 6:01 AM CST up reply actions  

The tie breaker in question is opponents strength of schedule. .589 > (or stronger than) .538; meaning StL would have the edge. The higher the better in this instance.

by LoveHate on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, it's the opposite

If you had a weaker strength of schedule, and managed to tie another team with a stronger strength of schedule, then you are deemed to be the weaker team. Therefore, you get the higher draft pick.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem with rovibe's post is the calculation of wins/losses

As DJSkillz pointed out, you have to count every game, so some teams get counted twice.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Dec 19, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Colts are possible if we end up in a tie, but not likely:

their strength of schedule is much weaker as we currently sit, and their remaining games are essentially 14-14 (Houston/Jacksonville). Ours are 12-16 currently. Not enough of a swing to make up for a 39 point SOS differential unless there are some other major upsets in the next 2 weeks.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 10:00 PM CST reply actions  

make that a 43 point difference...

that ain’t happening. the only way we win the luck sweepstakes is if the colts win both of their remaining games and we lose both of ours.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

could...

just not likely. let’s hope though.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, they're not exactly facing powerhouses

the Jags and Texans are pretty beatable. If nothing else, that Jags game should be about in the bag, with how Gabbert plays.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 19, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Cleveland Browns

At this point, I’d be worried that we actually pull off 2 wins against the Redskins and Chicago. Yes, Washington just beat the Giants, but they aren’t a good team, and Chicago is imploding without Cutler and Forte. Until this week, we’ve been pretty competitive against most of the teams we’ve played (even with our secondary!). If we pulled off 2 wins to end the year, we’d have a good chance at tying Cleveland. The Browns’ final 2 games of the year are against Baltimore and Pittsburgh, both really tough teams.

The Browns strength of schedule is significantly worse than ours right now, although it will get tougher after those last two games. Seeing as how the Browns are projected to select a QB in the 1st round, if they were to jump over us for the #3 pick, that would shoot down a potential trading partner. As it stands, Cleveland is probably picking #4 anyway. I’ve seen a lot of draft posts suggest we could trade our pick to them, but I don’t see it.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Dec 18, 2011 10:55 PM CST reply actions  

yep, a good point...

I don’t think there’s anyway we will have a lower SOS than the Browns. That is a significant gap that isn’t made up in just 2 weeks, despite our respective opponents. But I also don’t see us winning both of our 2 remaining games. It’s possible, but a team that goes 2-12 doesn’t usually go 2-0, especially with one of those games on the road and the other one that may still be fighting for a playoff spot. Possible though.

But regardless, yes, the trade option is something that jumped out to me. I don’t see Cleveland trading us to get a QB if we end up at #2 or #3 and they end up at #4. They have to know that neither us or the Rams will be looking for a QB. However, they actually might be worried about the Redskins or one of those other teams jumping ahead of them to take one. You could make a decent case that none of the top 6 teams “need” a QB (although the Colts are obviously going to take Luck).

Indy still has Manning
The Rams still have a franchise qb in Bradford; just need to get him healthy
We just took Ponder with our #1 pick last year
Browns just took McCoy fairly high two years ago and have a lot of holes
The Jags have a young QB that is terrible, but they just took him with their #1 last year
And the Bucs have 2 good, starting-quality QB’s on their roster

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

all that to say...

it could be a really interesting 2012 draft for trades.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Washington is a better team than the Vikings still though...

I think we’ll lose because Grossman is playing better than Ponder right now and we’re on the road. We’re not exactly a good road team. Our secondary will not allow us to win this game if it is close.
As for the Bears it’ll be a toss up. We’re at home and they will likely be without Cutler and Forte. I would like to think we could win that but you never know. Their defense is still fairly good and could cause problems for Ponder, and if it becomes a turnover game we’ll lose that one too.

by WIPurplePride on Dec 19, 2011 7:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Grossman is a turnover machine

Since Grossman took back over the starting QB job in week 10, he’s thrown at least 1 interception in every game, and has thrown a total of 9 INTs in 6 games. His TD/INT ratio since week 10 is 7/9, and he has 5 fumbles to add to that as well.

If we have ANY hope of breaking our INT drought, it is next week against the Redskins. If we can’t get a turnover next week, then I don’t know what to say.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Dec 19, 2011 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Hands team??

Grossman is safe…only one guy has worse hands than the guys in the defensive backfield for Minnesota…and we got rid of that disaster a few years ago. Troy Williamson.

by bigjohn53 on Dec 23, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Say all you want DJ

But I fully trust the full-time professional stat keepers at ESPN and other big sports media outlets who all came out today and said the Vikings have now moved into the #2 slot before I trust some random poster at Daily Norseman who doesn’t do this for a living.

Try Google. It’s your friend. Sorry you spent all day making a bogus post, but you did.

by rovibe on Dec 18, 2011 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

no, i didn't...

read my actual post, the whole thing. it’s all about how you want to “project”. by opponents that each has played right now (according to espn’s OWN current SOS by the way) the rams currently hold the #2 pick. but if you add in remaining teams on the schedule and projected records, the vikings WILL hold the #2 pick. i didn’t waste anything; you are dead wrong.

and sorry if i take offense to someone calling me out about how to calculate strength of schedule that doesn’t even realize that you do double count teams that you play twice in that strength of schedule.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

and i should note...

nothing is decided yet. the SOS for each of us swung a bunch this week, but before today ONE game separated our SOS’s by the projections for the season, so it could just as easily swing the other way over the next 2 weeks. obviously i’m hoping it does not.

by DJSkillz on Dec 18, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

just want to chime in and say

The Vikings have been sitting at #2 for the past couple of weeks according to multiple sites I’ve visited. Sure it’s possibly they’ve all been wrong but it’s also possible they’ve all been right.

by WIPurplePride on Dec 19, 2011 7:03 AM CST up reply actions  

again...

it’s all about how you project it. those are PROJECTIONS that have them at #2. right NOW (look at the math above; these are FACTS, not some conjecture or something) they are at #3. but they “project” to be #2 at the end of the season, if no major upsets occur.

by DJSkillz on Dec 19, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, nothing is decided yet

There are still two games for all 16 of our opponents, which means there are still 32 wins and losses to be factored into the S.O.S. for both the Rams and Vikings. Assuming we both lose the rest of our games, there’s still a lot of games left to decide the #2 and #3 draft position based on S.O.S. And if the Colts actually manage to win out? We could very well end up with the #1 pick.

And boy, we could win out too, and then potentially draft as low as 6th depending on the S.O.S. of the Jaguars and Buccaneers. Any projections of draft order is pure speculation at this point.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Dec 19, 2011 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

yep...

that’s the whole reason i do these, so we can follow it directly. and not just media spin or projections with no underlying understanding of them.

by DJSkillz on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Find it Interesting

that all the playoff contenders have strength of schedules in the lower half of the league. food for thought.

by Deadkrau5 on Dec 19, 2011 4:10 AM CST reply actions  

you'll find that every year...

because they’re not playing themselves, and vice versa for the non-playoff teams. for instance, the packers are playing the 2-12 (currently) vikings twice. the vikings are playing the 13-1 packers twice. that’s a huge swing right there.

by DJSkillz on Dec 19, 2011 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Could one of you brilliant minds break it down for me?

How exactly does the strength of schedule play out if the Rams lose to both PIT and SF and we lose to both WAS and CHI? Or is there more it than just that because other teams will change our Opp Rec? I’m just having a hard time understanding how this all works… but I know our S.O.S. is currently .5670 and the Rams is .5893 right?

by WIPurplePride on Dec 21, 2011 6:06 AM CST reply actions  

Assuming we both lose out

I think it would be very difficult for the Rams to get the 2nd pick. It’s difficult to tell you exactly as it depends on everyone on both schedules, however most the games played in the final two weeks are inter-division games so that will be a 50-50 split as far as wins and losses leaving the 2 teams from the divisions the teams don’t play. For the Rams these teams are the Packers and the Saints and for the Vikings these teams are the Redskins and the Cardinals. I like the Vikings chances given the teams involved and the fact we have a 5 game lead right now.

by VikesFanInTulsa on Dec 21, 2011 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay thanks

I wasn’t sure or not if it depended on everyone on both teams schedules. Yeah too hard to predict then I’ll just have to wait it out for two more weeks.

by WIPurplePride on Dec 21, 2011 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

did you even read this post?

that was the point of it. as of right now, the projection is that we will have the 2nd pick in the draft, if we both lose out. but that can swing wildly. if just 5 games out of the 20 or so games don’t go “our way” vs. those that do from opponents that the vikings and rams have played this year in the final 2 weeks we will have the #3 pick. so it’s going to be extremely close. As it says in the closing, essentially you want to:

root for: teams in the NFC East, AFC North, NFC South
root against: teams in NFC South, AFC West, NFC North

by DJSkillz on Dec 21, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Little confusing

It’s a bit confusing trying to both root for and against teams in the NFC South. Basically since we played all the teams in the NFC South, we generally want them to lose however, since both the Vikes & Rams played the Saints, rooting for/against them depends on who they are playing.

by BigSling on Dec 23, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I did

but I was still confused. I wanted a better break down but apparently it’s too complex to go into a game by game breakdown. Unless you think you can do it?

by WIPurplePride on Dec 23, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, it's not that complex

check my post: http://www.dailynorseman.com/2011/12/23/2658073/why-the-vikings-control-their-draft-position

The bottom line is that if both the Vikings and Rams lose, then the Vikings are assured of a top 2 pick

by guibec on Dec 23, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Well what now?

Jags could pass us and we could be picking outside the top 3 right? God I hate being as fan of this team, even when we have a losing season we don’t lose enough to make it matter…

by WIPurplePride on Dec 24, 2011 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

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