Mirroring the Best: the Pittsburgh Steelers
I've been searching all season long for a reason to believe the horrid nature of the Minnesota Vikings pass defense doesn't entirely fall on the shoulders of the defensive backs. Maybe it's the lack of front-four pressure? Well no, that can't be it. Jared Allen leads the NFL in sacks, and we're 3rd as a team in that category. Maybe it's an inability to stop the run, leading to a wide open passing game for opponents? Nope: 6th in the NFL in yards-per-carry and 9th in yards-per-game allowed.
And then I had a light bulb moment today. With the Hall of Fame (Antoine Winfield), 2nd Round (Cedric Griffin, Chris Cook) and 3rd Round (Asher Allen) talent in that secondary, there should be absolutely no excuse for the astronomical number of blown coverages, missed tackles, and games without interceptions (in case you were wondering, you have to venture all the way back to Week 5 vs. the Cardinals for our last one--our last three actually). Something's gotta give. These are talented men who, aside from Chris Cook, have been playing together for multiple years now and have never put forth as terrible of an effort as they have in 2011.
So I took to the the Internet for a little statistical research. The Pittsburgh Steelers have this season's top pass defense at 179 yards-per-game allowed. I'll let you take in the gloriousness of that accomplishment for a moment... 179 yards-per-game... Can you imagine a pass defense of that caliber complimenting our existing rush defense, which only allows a shade over 100 yards-per-game? I don't want to say Superbowl, but...Superbowl.
But the true jaw-dropping nature of the Steelers' dominant pass defense was not in that number "179" for me. You have to look at the personnel. And just so I can quell all the "What the hell is he getting at?" thoughts that are undoubtedly running through your minds, my ultimate point with this post is this: WE NEED A NEW DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.
Why? Back to my earlier sentence: you have to look at the personnel of the Steelers secondary to get an idea of how they have done so much with so relatively little in recent years. Here are their two starting cornerbacks and two starting safeties in 2011, and the round in which they were drafted:
William Gay - 5th Round, Louisville
Troy Polamalu - 1st Round, USC
Ryan Clark - Undrafted, LSU
Ike Taylor - 4th Round, Louisiana-Lafayette
Aside from Polamalu, not a single player drafted higher than the fourth round. And here's the difference, folks: the Pittsburgh Steelers have the NFL's best defensive coordinator, Dick LeBeau. The best. And he has been for awhile now. To further that point, defensive backs coach Carnell Lake is in his first season with the team! It's Dick LeBeau's secondary, and they are thriving. So how do we find our LeBeau? Well, here are apparently the criteria:
1. Must be a former NFL defensive player
2. Must have coached a defensive unit in some capacity for at least 27 years
That's it. That's what the Minnesota Vikings need, a defensive lifer; a guy who has been in and around NFL defenses for decades; a guy who can seek out talent in mid-round drafts so the organization can focus their efforts into bolstering the other units that have been detrimental to the legacy of the "Purple People Eaters" (offensive line, wide receiver...another post for another day).
Who is Fred Pagac? A former NFL tight end who spent 22 of his 32 years of coaching with the Ohio State Buckeyes. I'm very anxious to see if all you fellow DNers could do some research along with me and comment on this post with some suitable candidates you believe could replace Fred Pagac. He is not the man for the job, and it's painfully clear.
Help the Minnesota Vikings find their dick...LeBeau.
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Haha
Winfield as HoFer. No way. Ring of Honor, yes.
I don’t think you have to worry about us going with Pagac next season though. The tea-leaves have pretty much already pointed to him getting canned and replace.
BRING ON THE SPAGS
I'm not sure about ring of honor
Maybe if he has two more productive years. Maybe…
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 18, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Fred Pagac
He was the LB coach for Ohio State for many years, but was then promoted to D-Coordinator for Ohio State for about 3-4 years, before becoming a LB coach in the NFL. Prior to becoming our D-Coordinator, he has only been a LB coach in the NFL. I think he’s in over his head as a D-Coordinator at the NFL level.
The only thing I can think of, is that Frazier wanted Singletary as his LB coach, and rather than just fire Pagac, he decided to give him a shot at D-Coordinator. If it worked out, great. If not, then he had his reason to get rid of him. Hopefully he doesn’t promote Singletary. We need someone with D-Coordinator experience and proven success, like Jack Del Rio or Steve Spagnuolo (assuming he gets canned).
Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.
Totally Agree
Looks like we both posted our comments at the same time. Nice background on Pagac; I think you’re right about him/Singeltary. Glad someone also agrees with me about Del Rio. He’s definitely a good candidate.
by bleedpurple426 on Dec 18, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
Missin' the point here, fellas!
Haha, just kiddin’. You make a good point. Maybe I jumped the gun on the HOF prediction.
But R4K, I like your Spagnuolo pick. I think he’s a very suitable candidate. What do you guys think about Jack Del Rio? Defensive guy, former Viking…
I disagree with your conditions for a DC.
Mike Singletary was been a HOF LB. How would you rate him as a coach? Most people would say terrible, and I would agree.
Mike Tomlin had one year of NFL level coaching before he became a coordinator. He was our Defensive backs coach before becoming our Defensive Coordinator. You say mirror the Steelers, but they hired a coach with 2 years NFL experience before he became their Head Coach.
seems to have paid off for them, no??
Tomlin is a good game manager, and he lets his coordinators take care of the specifics.
that’s what we also need — Frazier should only have to concentrate on certain aspects of the game, and he can only do that with competent coordinators at the helm.
i second Spags or Del Rio.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
Judging from the post a couple weeks ago where Frazier was wired,
He (Frazier) is trying to let his coordinators run their aspects of the game but they are failing to do so adequately.
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
I was only pointing out the flaw in this line of thinking for his conditions of hiring a DC
I agree, and kind of wish we had booted Chilly and promoted Tomlin in his stead. He runs a good team, leads with an iron fist, and has continued along with the Steeler’s history of winning.
There have been a lot of people lobbying that it isn’t Pagac’s fault that the Defense is terrible due to lack of personnel and their complete disobedience. I believe it’s in our best interest to hire Spagnuolo or Del Rio as a new DC though, because it will be the best way to recruit FAs, and the fastest way to help fix our D.
How about this one; hire Jeff Fisher as our DC and run the 46 D
with Singletary coaching the LB’s? I think we could have a killer defense with that change, we have plenty of pass rushers in Allen, KWill, Ballard, Ev Griffen, and Robison. Just grab a LB or two and fix the secondary.
it's a wonderful idea, but...
…Fisher will be a head coach somewhere soon. he showed many years of success, i doubt he’ll want to take a demotion (and justifiably so).
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
not to change gears, but also want to throw this out there...
there were only about two games that Musgrave really showed some brilliant moves — the rest of the offense has been terribly ordinary.
if Spags gets the boot in StL, odds are Josh McDaniels might, as well — i know we went for him last year but he liked the situation in StL b/c he had a young QB to work with. perhaps Ponder would entice McDaniels to be the OC here (he has his “Wes Welker” in Percy, after all).
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
Yuck
McDaniels has been horrendous in STL. I’ve been frequenting the St. Louis boards the couple of weeks and there are a lot of questions about McDaniels, mainly his play calling (no rushing attempts from the 1 yard line with a back up QB in the game and Stephen Jackson numerous times) and St. Louis is historically bad on offense this year. His success was in NE, where Belichick and Brady run the show and he hasn’t done much since leaving.
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
He'll likely be trying to get into KC anyway
Where he can get familiar with Matt Cassel. I’m sure Pioli would love for McDaniel’s to turn the kid into an above average QB again so Pioli won’t look so bad giving up a high pick for him.
Plus, it re-unites McDaniel’s with Orton, who had a pretty good year under McDaniel’s tutelage.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 19, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions

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