A Picture That You Need To See To Believe
by Christopher Gates on Dec 19, 2011 11:16 PM CST
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This picture from Sunday's game was posted in the comments of Ted's Stock Market Report, but I needed to put it up here in case some folks hadn't read the comments for that particular piece.
Do you see that picture? It's not a Photoshop, it's not some Criss Angel optical illusion or anything like that. That is Joe Webb faking a handoff to Christian Ponder.
What. . .in the sweet blue hell. . .is the purpose of this insanity?
Does anybody in America think that Christian Ponder is actually going to take a handoff and attempt a power running play up the middle? For crying out loud, the guy gets hit frequently enough.
After this fake handoff, is Ponder supposed to go out and throw a lead block? Pick up any potential blitzers that might be coming untouched? Run a route out into the flat?
What is the damn point?
This occurred on a play that took place in New Orleans' red zone. . .the 13-yard line, to be exact. Yes, on the opposing team's doorstep with a team that has Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, Visanthe Shiancoe, Kyle Rudolph, and even Toby Gerhart. . .we're lining our freaking starting quarterback up in the backfield and faking handoffs to him on a play-action that we, apparently, expect opposing defenders to buy into.
And we ran this garbage twice! IN A ROW!
As the kids today might say. . .the stupid, it burns.
Look, I want to like Bill Musgrave's offense. Really, I do. I want to see what it's capable of after Ponder gets a little more seasoning and we attempt to build an offensive line that can actually block opposing defenses for more than half a second. But this team needs to spend more time learning to execute plays that actually make sense and actually work rather than screwing around with junk like this.
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That was a pretty sweet fake on both parties, though.
Maybe Ponder didn’t have any time to learn the game plan because Muskrat had him trying to learn how to pretend to take a handoff?
All things aside…this is so sad.
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
I honestly believe
The offense has devolved to the middle school level…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 PM CST reply actions
I've said in other places
that I like Musgrave’s system and think it would work well somewhere with alot of offensive talent and execution, but some of it’s just too fancy for my liking. This play is definitely one of those.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 19, 2011 11:27 PM CST reply actions
I am in the same frame of minde
by and large I like his offense. But at times he gets too cute for himself (pulling AP for Gerhard on 4 and 1 for example). this play could work, but they have to reverse the 2 quarterbacks to make that work. Lots of d’s would believe that Webb would run it out, but ain’t no one believing Ponder does.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
No one is going to buy a designed run for Ponder, and at that point, there not inclined to fear a Webb pass. Is it so hard to see the advantage of switching?
Maybe the offense is running its own plays too?
I wouldn't mind seeing the reverse bone....
with ponder under center, and harvin, AP and webb in the backfield….
with rudolph and keinsasser on the line…maybe play action to Ksauce over the middle….
by michiganpat on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
thought we were going to see a pass out to K-Sauce in the game.
Was about to pee myself, then it was poorly thrown and I was a sad panda again.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
What is less effective?
Ponder’s play fakes to nobody or Joe Webb’s play fakes to Christian Ponder? Snagged that one from Tom Pelissero.
"Like I said, I don’t think anybody on this team knows what schism is, let alone could use it in a sentence. I thought it was an STD when I first heard it. And I was like whoa, we preach abstinence around these parts." - Jared Allen
I get what Musgrave is trying to do...
But,
It should be Ponder, faking the hand-off to Webb. THAT might be a play the defense would buy into. If you’re going to fake a hand-off from one QB to another QB, at least fake it to the guy that is known as a running QB.
Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.
What we have here
is perfect execution of “Operation Acquire #2 Pick”
by Mebera on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Funny but
lets not kill our QB of the future in the process.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Is it just me?
Or does it look like there is a hole in the side of Ponders helmet? I know he has been taking some hits, but man……!
those are by design
I assume they are for air flow.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I thought they
were “bulge zones” for the gel inside the helmets (so that when the helmet gets hit hard, the gel has a place to go that isn’t Ponders skull)?
CP7 and Musgrave convo
CP7: What’s the play call?
BM: Derp
CP7 What are you talking about coach?
BM: Derp Derpity Derp
CP7: Fuck it, I’ll be the running back
BM: Derpity Herpity Derp
CP7: Webb you shotgun this shit. AP get back to the sidelines where you belong, while fucking over everyone’s fantasy team. Loadholt pretend you’re an NFL caliber Olineman.
Ready break.
CP7: Damn coach that didn’t work
BM: Derp it again
CP7: Seriously?
BM: Do I look serious, I SAID DERP IT AGAIN BITCH.
by dsludo on Dec 20, 2011 1:31 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
LOL!!!!!
Funny thing is is that Motorola headset isn’t even plugged in! The end of the cord is actually just stuffed into his back pocket, but still he looks more authentic this way.
Oh it plugged in
Into his other ear in an attempt to drown out the boo birds after these creative plays.
by reebs on Dec 20, 2011 6:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i think he has
henry winklers little green notebook of plays from waterboy.cuz it sure isnt nfl quality thats for sure.
I will just copy-paste my comment from another thread:
...I want to see Luck, Ponder, Webb on the filed at the same time. Of course, the play would still have Webb run it but what fun it would be!
…I want to see Luck, Ponder, Webb on the filed at the same time. Of course, the play would still have Webb run it but what fun it would be!
I think favre should be the wide out in this set
Whats he up to these days
by reebs on Dec 20, 2011 6:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You know he did actually run out to catch a pass once.
just remember that he has to be in the shotgun this time.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
I heard something about photography.
Apparently he wasn’t very good at it.
Also, he is keeping himself fit for when Da Bears call him.
What ever happened to the two Tightend sets?
I haven’t been watching the Vikings as closely as I would like with a 7 year old running around all the time but I thought our thing this year was going to be a bunch of formations with two TE. Also, I haven’t heard Rudolph’s number called a lot…or Visante’s, what’s up with that? Did we get away from it or never begin it?
We got rid of them
For 2 qb sets, because they are so much more effective.
by Simply_Greatness on Dec 20, 2011 8:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Haha
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 20, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Take Musgrave's Sandbox Away
Look at your play sheet and quit coming up with these ridiculous plays. AP 10 carries, the old double quarterback handoff. Just stop the insanity and get down to using your assets. I have followed the Vikings for over 45 years and just knock off the bulls—-t! Play the damn game !
My thinking exactly
You resort to a constant stream of trick plays when you are too sloppy as a coach to get your guys to execute big boy plays.
I would rather see them execute on AP or Gerhardt runs, do TE formations to Rudolf and Shank, and do the slant passes and downfield passes to Harvin to perfection than see them practice and play a bazillion different plays poorly. The NFL requires an insane amount of practice on matchups, timing, and routes to get to get good.
And yeah, I went to my first Vikings game exactly 45 years ago.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
yet another case of bad coaching
This coaching staff has to be among the worst in NFL History! When your players can’t seem to either have the mental or physical capabilities of performing the simplest, most basic schemes, complex trickery is not to your advantage. "I know, we don’t have an Oline block, so let’s get the defense thinking WTF by faking a handoff to Ponder….who probably could block better than Loadholt, but we won’t use him for that…so essentially we will knowingly make one of our 11 positions on the field useless, so we, in effect are playing with 10 positions to the Saint’s 11. Man, if this works, I will be called a genius.
Zero confidence in this staff
I’ve been a supporter of Frazier all year – until now. After watching this debacle snowball downhill like a run away avalanche, I now believe this entire staff has to go. I just don’t think Frazier is head coaching material. In the history of this franchise we’ve hired two coaches with previous head coaching experience – Bud Grant and Denny Green. They also happen to be the most successful. It’s time to bring in someone who knows how to build and run a program – like John Gruden.
But in the meantime – there’s another name out there. Someone who can be counted on to right the ship and bring some stability back to this organization.
It’s time to bring back Bud!!!! One more year. I know you have it in you Bud!!!
No to Gruden
I mean, he maybe a good coach, but every time we play the Packers, he wouldn’t be able to call the plays with Aaron Rodgers’ balls in his mouth.
by Soybomb on Dec 20, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Good point
That’s why I said – Like Gruden – but better. just kidding …
Dungy is only 56.
And has already brought SB wins to two teams. Trifecta, Mr. Dungy?
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't think he will coach again
But he’d be a great GM for us.
I don't know
Have ya seen that thar man’s ears? Looks to me like some kinda donkey-man, dontchasee? Big narrow head and big ears, dontchasee? Kinda sends shivers up my spine, dontchasee? Yeah, he can coach as good or better than any of them thar other coaches, but he ain’t no dummy. Got a sweet job just appearin’ on that thar newfangled tellyvishun just talkin’ about other NFL folks.
"Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." - Old Cowboy proverb.
The thing with Gruden
is, he is way over rated. sure he won a super bowl, but that was the team Dungy built, and Dungy’s and Monte Kiffins Defense that won that super bowl rather then Gruden and his offense. Tampa bay just declined over time under his watch. Gruden is way over rated and we would be with out a coach for 2 games a year. Sooo, yaah … there’s that.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Frazier could be good
he needs to do a better job of appointing coordinators, though. Pagac didn’t work out, and it almost seemed like we settled for Musgrave.
i’d almost argue both of them need to go, especially if there are better options out there (Del Rio and possibly Spags, maybe McDaniels if he’s booted from StL, too).
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
McDaniels
He doesn’t understand that you need to tailor your gameplan around the talent you have. Look at St. Louis this year; oline is a shambles due to injuries and no really strong recievers….so his gameplan is a lot of 7 step drops, Bradford is getting killed. I like the Spags or Del Rio idea.
I hope they don’t try to bring in Martz, who might not get a contract from the Bears.
Agree that McDaniels is garbage
But if you remember Pugac was the players choice because of his aggressiveness. The players were giving him endorsements and the fans loved his “attacking” schemes, which in hindsight might say more about Fraziers style or lack-of.
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
If Pagac was known for attacking schemes
Then something happened to him, because the D, aside from Allen, attacks less than any Viking team I’ve ever seen.
Makes me think Frazier somehow screwed that up.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'm guessing injuries play a large role
Im in no way supporting Pagac but if he were to blitz, it would leave even more holes in our already terrible secondary. On the other hand, what he’s doing now isn’t working so who knows.
Billick: "What did McNabb do to deserve being benched?"
Answer: He upset PETA by killing every worm he came across on a football field.
of course
we face the best QB against the blitz in the NFL twice a year too, lets not forget that. but yea, would be nice to see a blitz or too, but I am not sure I have seen more then 5 all season. but as was said with this secondary? I am not sure we could blitz a highschool QB and not get torched.
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Dec 20, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
We got blitzed on dang near every play in Denver
And I’m inclined to think that since our coverage in the backfield is awful, why not just use them to blitz often? All season I’ve been wondering why we are not blitzing 10-20 times a game… at least we would put pressure on the other team. Right now we are just letting them have their way with us…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Actually Pelli
wrote that when Frazier took over Pagac’s play calling part of it was because the DB’s weren’t running the coverages Pagac was calling. They would call out their own coverages because the ones he called they didn’t think would work. Now how terrible is that?
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
That's awful
But a wrong move by Frazier.
You punish offenders, not those doing their jobs. In other words, he should have gone after those on the field not cooperating and then worked with Pagac to improve his scheme, not taken Pagac offa his duties.
This just shows Frazier is not in control, although maybe the Griffin thingy is part of this.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Unless Frazier, who was a DB himself in the league,
agreed with his players that the coverages called were just flat out stupid.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 20, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
If that is the case, which it probably is
Then you have to demote or fire them. You can’t leave them in any kind of position to help you fail.
It ain’t easy, but in football results are pretty much everything in a 16-game schedule.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
meh it's hard to fire someone mid row.
Especially since I’m sure he’s great with the line backing and D line play. That did put the final nail in pagac’s coffin though, there is no way he or the DB coach is coming back next year.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Griffin
i’m beginning to think Cedric was the one calling coverages against the coaches. would definitely prove why he is benched, now.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
(well, that, and he's been playing like crap...)
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
McD will go to KC
And the Bellichick trifecta will form again with RAC, McD, Pioli.. and I’m sure they’ll try and get Mangini in to be DC. It’ll be beautiful.
As for our new OC.. I have no idea who I’d want. Only name I can think of is Haley, who did well with the Cardinals, but he has such an explosive personality I don’t know how Frazier would deal with him.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 20, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I would like to give Musgrave a chance with an actual offensive line
D side we need to clean house (including singleterry)
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
I don't even know what to think about him.
There’s been so many strange oddities this year. He’ll look good one quarter, then like shit the next with his play calling. I mean, he would lean so heavily on Peterson in the first half of those blown games, and then completely ignore him in the second. He leaves Harvin on the sideline frequently.
I mean, he can obviously call a good game, but then, at the same time, he can totally fuck it up later on. So.. he’s a mystery. I dunno that an O-line would solve the issues entirely.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 20, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
He is experimenting.
The NDSU Bison rock. http://www.gobison.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=2400&SPID=695&SPSID=11850
by berserkerND on Dec 21, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
NO TO GRUDEN
He dismantled the Tampa Bay team. He took over a great team built by Dungy and then slowly destroyed them. He is an awful announcer and coach and should not be trusted to build a team.
agree, pass on Gruden
but I’d take Brian Billick in a heartbeat….hopefully he hasn’t offended Gerald too much in his time in the broadcast booth ;)
double agree
Gruden would be a nightmare… on the plus side, i wouldn’t have to listen to his commentary during games. on the negative side, he’d be around all the time. no thanks.
Billick would be sweeeeeeet. long shot, but damn that would be awesome.
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
This is a copycat league.
CP7, recovering from a hip pointer, lined up as a power back? Brilliant!!! Why I’d be willing to bet that in future weeks we’ll be seeing the Patriots with Ryan Mallet taking the snap to fake a hand off to Tom Brady just because this formation and play, ran not once, but twice, was so impressive.
(I didn’t bother with the sarcasm font, because it should be clear what I think of this nonsense).
So, I want to say...
something really funny and witty, but I’m a bit too steemed to really come up with anything clever. When I was writing my piece on the coaches, I was a bit disturbed by how many instances, in my research of Musgrave, the guy has made OC… and eventually lost it due to, you guessed it, “questionable play-calling”. Unfortunately as I wrote in that piece, I really think we’ve been suckered into the same trap several other teams have fallen for… taking a great quarterbacks coach and thinking he can be a good OC. Unlike Leslie Frazier and Fred Pagac, this isn’t Musgrave’s first dance at his position. He’s done it several times in his career, and it seems that his errors remain the same… with the ultimate result, too, remaining the same.
I think it’s worth noting, when i watched these plays (at least as I saw it through my repeated head-smacks… I got a little woozy after a bit…), the handoff fakes WEREN’T EVEN GOOD. It could have been Adrian Peterson there and teams wouldn’t have bought it, which I can only attribute to CP7 and Webb simply knowing that nobody was going to fall for it and not even really trying to sell it, which quite frankly I can’t blame them. Why waste time trying to sell an Eskimo ice? They had at least the decency to run the play as called, but not the stupidity to actually put any real effort into it.
I understand why this team went after Musgrave for OC, I really do. We knew we were going to have a rookie QBOTF and we knew he was great at developing those kinda guys. And he said all the right stuff about “not putting a square peg into a round hole” and playing the game to suit the player’s strengths, something that was perhaps the biggest and most consistent blunder, offensive wise, of the Childress-Bevell era. But at this point, I think we need to take a long hard look at Musgrave’s resume, realize he’s making the same exact mistakes he’s made time and time again in the past, and realize that we’ve made an error. The guy’s resume as a QB coach is impressive, but as an OC it’s abysmal, and he doesn’t look like he’s learned from his past mistakes.
If he’s here primarily to help Ponder’s development into an elite caliber QB, it’s backfiring. At this point, with ridiculous play-calling like this, he’s only going to hurt it. As I mentioned above I’m starting to get a sense the offense doesn’t have faith in him, and that’s going to do a lot of damage to Ponder’s early career. I understand at this point that without any receiver outside of Harvin, with a hobbled AP, and a non-existent O-line (not to mention the defense constantly pushing us back and forcing Ponder to really carry the load), it’s not fully on Musgrave that the offense isn’t a high-powered Pats style war machine. But we should be doing better regardless; hell, with a bit of better play calling, our record could and should easily have 2-3 more wins tacked onto it. And with things constantly falling apart, especially with boneheaded play calling like this, Ponder’s confidence level has got to be shaking some.
I really think if this off-season we’re in the market for a new DC, we should also see what’s available on the other side of the ball. Hell, I’m OK with Musgrave becoming the QB coach, apparently he’s very good at that. (I kinda doubt he would take the ‘demotion’ though, it’s quite unusual in the NFL.) But even if it means completely cutting ties with him, so be it… this team will not get better with a guy who’s play book involves ‘Fake Handoff From Joe Webb to Christian Ponder. Repeat.’. I mean, for Christ’s sake, if you just REVERSED that play, it would make sense- teams would totally buy and react to the thought of Webb getting a run.
Unless, of course, Musgrave is an evil genius, and his plan is to make the entire NFL believe he’s gone batshit insane so as to really throw everyone off next season when he doesn’t do completely stupid things.
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Apparently, I’m too miffed two sepll corerectly etheir.
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I could not agree more
Second chances are good. Third chances say something about those hiring…
His teams have gone 7-9 and 5-11 the first two times around as OC for two different teams, both times losing more or staying the same, both times demoted, and the defense on both of those teams was good.
You are not going to get the kind of excellence you need here, folks.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
And all the jazz about lining up Webb as a receiver
Who does that fool? Lining up a top notch receiver like Randy Moss doesn’t fool anyone when you don’t throw to him. The defense plays the respect game. Until it is proven that Webb is an awesome receiver, he will not be given a double team, which would then allow someone else to get open.
I mean, I’m all for using Webb as a receiver, but you actually have to THROW TO HIM for him to be effective. If you never throw to a particular receiver, he doesn’t make a good decoy.
I don't think he's out there as a decoy
But he’s not out there much and they haven’t gotten the ball to him.
No one is out there much, except for the line and Ponder
AP, Gerhardt, Booker, D’Imperio, Sauce, Rudolph, Shank, Harvin, and about 20 fill-in wide receivers get rotated in and out like flies.
It’s one thing to try to find good matchups, but the defense knows that they will never be challenged to shut down someone or something that is working for us, because we are just going to switch to something different that probably won’t work.
Lord knows we shouldn’t keep running AP to the right, or keep pounding Gerhardt up the middle, or keep throwing deep or slant routes to Harvin, or keep doing hook routes to Rudolph, or short routes to Shank, because these have actually continued to work for us… since we apparently have to move on to trick plays and try all our guys as decoys, and keep throwing sideline passes to Aro, and let Booker have a chance at fumbling, etc.
Am I cynical enough?
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
in response to your headline...
No one is out there much, except for the DEFENSE.
I think that is a truer statement :)
by Chris3 on Dec 20, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Musgrave
Unlike Leslie Frazier and Fred Pagac, this isn’t Musgrave’s first dance at his position. He’s done it several times in his career, and it seems that his errors remain the same… with the ultimate result, too, remaining the same.
Yeah, I saw that when I read his Wikipedia profile, the guy’s had multiple shots at this and blown it, repeatedly. Guess it’s our turn.
If he’s here primarily to help Ponder’s development into an elite caliber QB, it’s backfiring. At this point, with ridiculous play-calling like this, he’s only going to hurt it.
Hurt Ponder? If the other team actually falls for it, it’s going to get Ponder destroyed beneath 2,000lbs of linemen and linebackers.
Seriously. You WANT the other team to go after your #1 QB on a fake?!?! Or he’s expecting Ponder to block guys who weigh 150% more than him?!
I was thinking Musgrave might be able to stay, but after hearing that they pulled this TWICE, putting both our young QBs at risk at the same time… I just don’t know.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
yeah gets lamest play of the year vote.
and honestly it goes to the idea of tossing him. Maybe he was hanging out with Jared earlier and Allen was telling him to just let it all hang out he was being canned anyway.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Derp moment here.
Can you attempt a forward pass after a handoff? I know you can after a toss or pitch.
by Dodger48 on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Sure
But you’re not going to have much of a chance to do that in this situation as he’s going to end up right near the line.
Wacked
I saw the picture before, but it just didn’t register. Like a non-sequitor comment, I thought it wasn’t right, had to be photoshoped or something.
But they did it twice….
There really aren’t any good words for it.
You know, maybe if it was the Super Bowl, and the Vikings had to make the next play or everyone in the United States would die, then maybe, you try a move like that. Not sure what they’d be trying to do with it, but you know, with everyone’s life on the line, you try anything. But short of that…. I just don’t know.
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
If that's the point line up your line, then line up your other linemen in the back field as well,
Stick as many as you can back there and shot gun the snap to AD. Have him run behind the 10 biggest mofo’s on the team. Hell give it to Allen!
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
CP7 and Brees are about the same size, so let's reverse this
Imagine the Saints coming to the line, and Brees is lined up as a power back. Does the defense – A.) Start panicking, wondering what the hell is going on, OR B.) Begin giggling so hard they can barely play their positions?
Hey! Maybe that’s what this was all about. The old “get ‘em laughing so hard they can’t make a tackle” strategy. Maybe we’re not giving Musgrave enough credit here - perhaps there was a method to this madness.
Of course, that still doesn’t explain why they ran it twice, unless they thought it would be even more hilarious the second time around.
Hell Ponder was getting hit enough as QB
I guess Musgrave didn’t think it would be any worse as a RB.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Yeah, that's his strategy!
He’s just sayin, “Toughen up, boy! And quit yer whining about getting hit 500 times a game by people the size of small rhinocerouses! Eventually, you’ll figure out how to knock a few rhinos and other assorted pachyderms down yourself if you just play tougher!”
Ok, that was actually Joe Kapp’s philosophy as a Viking. The only Viking quarterback who really enjoyed putting the hurt on some unsuspecting defenseman.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
And how they kept a straight face on that play
Is beyond me. I mean, come on, Muskrat, that play was only designed to invoke humor.
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 20, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
a pictureis worth one thousand words
wow, you cant make this crap up. just on the basis of such a ridicoulosly insanely retarded play call, from the 13 yd line no less, musgrat needs to go. ive lost all respect for him
great find on the photo
by los vikingos on Dec 20, 2011 5:46 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Great Photo intro
I agree
I wanted to believe that Musgrave would really be good, earn from his past and create an offense around the players. - WRONG - He creates clever little plays. Sometimes I think that the D know what we are going to run just by our package and layout.
NEEDED: Good GM with some good scouts, Good HC, OC, DCoach, Offensive C 2 guards, 2 tackles, #1 & #2 WR, 1 DE, 2 Dtackles, Dmiddle and outside linbackers, 2 corners, 2 safeties and depth behind these folks -—- OTHER THAN THAT WE ARE SET.(Yes seeing the above needs I’ll give WEB & PONDER & SAGE another year.)
Thank goodness we have AD, Percy, and Jared, huh! :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Blech!!!!
This picture is just making me even happier that I had to work that day. What a joke. Hopefully next year’s coaches (assuming there will be some new ones) will take the games a little more serious than this crap.
Anyone else read the post at VikesGeek
about the possibility of Frazier still being canned? He complains about the Vikings even worse than I do :)
Good blog!
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
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