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Welcome back everyone! This piece is the second in a series of moves that Odin's Eye would make if I were the Triangle of Authority. Even looking up the pictures for this post, I got excited. Dude is a physical freak. Everson Griffen stands 6'3, 280 pounds and runs a 4.66 40-yard dash. According to his NFL combine report, he is especially powerful in confined space and his agility and speed in space are better than most DEs. His agility and speed stems back to his days as a high school running back. As any NFL draft analyst worth their salt would tell you, you can't get caught up in measureables, as some fans may with a player like Joe Webb. We aren't the Raiders here, setting our depth charts by 40 times. However, I've watched the Vikings nearly every play of every game this year, and this guy is an animal. He plays mostly on special teams and rotates in on defense sparingly as a linebacker or defensive lineman. He has accumulated 21 tackles (15 solo, 3 for loss), 4 sacks, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery in that time on defense, as well as 9 tackles and a forced fumble on special teams.
Despite trying not to fall in love with the sheer athleticism that Griffen has displayed in his time on the field, it's hard not to. He is a gunner on special teams, and is probably one of the biggest gunners in the entire NFL. He can really move. Last week, on a screen pass to Darren Sproles, he caught up to Sproles from behind before Sproles was knocked out of bounds by Jamarca Stanford. How many 280 pound men have you seen catch a guy with Sproles' speed, from behind no less? Don't act like you're not impressed. He also scooped up a botched snap by the Saints in stride and would have scored if not for the Breesus' all out effort to stop him. If you skip to the 0:40 second point in this highlight, those plays are back-to-back. I just re-watched the play where he catches up to Sproles from behind, and I recommend you do too. He is on the opposite side of the field when Sproles catches that ball. Holy sh*t. He also blew by the Saints' left tackle on that fumble recovery.
Note: I had to watch the discount double-check commercial to get to those highlights. Man do I hate that ad and everything it represents. For those keeping score at home, that's two Saints-Vikings searches in a row that have resulted in a kick to the plums. RODGERS!?! DISCOUNT DOUBLE-TWAP!!
Not only has he wowed me with his athleticism, but unlike Joe Webb, Griffen has made the most of his opportunities. His 4 sacks this season are good for 3rd on the team behind Brian Robison (6.0) and some other guy with a mullet or something. I'm no mathemetician, but I'm willing to bet if you projected Griffen's statistics over how many snaps a starter like Robison has gotten (I tried, but could not find how many defensive snaps Griffen has been on the field for this season), they would look pretty, prettttty, pretttttty, prettttttay good.

Going forward, I expect big things from Griffen. His draft stock dropped a 2 years ago because of concerns about his work ethic, and he was seen as a high-risk, high-reward pick. As long as he keeps his name out of the police reports, I believe this man will replace Brian Robison or one of our linebackers by next year. I mean, for Pete's sake, isn't it about time the Vikings got a pick right that wasn't in the first round? Think of the damage this 280 pound beast can do to an offensive player when he can get the type of short-range momentum that comes with a 4.6 40. He has the potential to be an absolute sledgehammer on the field. His abilities as far as pass coverage and hands go, are still mostly unknown. The good news about that is if he struggles in those areas, he is originally a defensive end. Brian Robison signed a 3-year, 14.1 million dollar deal this offseason, which makes him relatively cheap and a leading candidate to be replaced after an underwhelming first season as a starter this year. Chad Greenway signed a big deal, so don't expect to see Griffen replacing him. Erin Henderson has played decently enough this season to garner a starting spot next year. My opinion about his brother E.J. has been made here before, but to refresh you all, I feel he has lost a step and is one of the players that needs to go in order to improve our NFL-record breaking (and not in a good way) defense.
I don't see the Mike position as a good fit for Griffen if he were to play in the linebacking corps, so Greenway or Erin Henderson would have to convert to the middle to make room for Griffen. Otherwise, he may end up replacing Brian Robison, who has really dropped off the radar after a solid start to the 2011 season. Wherever Griffen ends up being plugged in, it's this blogger's strong opinion that he needs to be utilized more frequently in any way possible. There's really nowhere to go but up for this defense and Everson Griffen himself. One might say the sky is the limit for him.
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absolutely agree
I would like to see Griffen be named the starter right now at LDE. He can be a star.
Robison is a fine player, but he can’t hold up well as the LDE in the 4-3. Trade him to an AFC 3-4 team. I don’t think he would be a star for them.
And let’s not go 3-4. That is just trendy and it won’t fix anything. What we need is better talent and coaching. (Goodbye Singletary and Joe Woods)
I'd like to see Everson starting as well.
Put Robison back to his old role, he is a great change up off the bench and can relieve both sides.
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask of the Spiderman
And you don't trash talk about him
by REVENGE4WEBB on Dec 22, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
I think that would be great. The only thing is that Robison is getting paid a lot now (starter money). If we can keep him and have him come off the bench, great. If we can’t afford him anymore, then trade him.
by medicineball on Dec 23, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Whoa trading a guy?
That’s unheard of! We’d much rather just let them walk away…
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Despite the fact that Griffen possesses the abilities of a 3-4 OLB, he’s probably the only guy on our defense that would fit into that scheme. Besides, most of the best defenses these days switch fronts frequently. We need to have athletes all over the field in the mold of Griffen or even an Antoine Winfield. Do it all, hard-nosed players. Easier said than done of course.
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I think they continue to use him as they are using him
He is doing very well and coming along just fine. I think BRob is getting a bum rap. He is not doing as well as he was earlier because teams are keying on him and the defensive tackles are not getting much of a push.
I think the DT position is the weak spot besides KWill. Having Allen, BRob, & Griffen makes the DE position a strength. Adding in Ballard who IMO is really a DE more than a DT right now and we are looking pretty stout at DE.
No need to weaken that spot. But if they can trade BRob as medicineball says above then maybe they do it. But then they only have DeAndre Reed and Ballard as the backups.
I think the team has to continue to develop talent and have viable backups at every position.
Lets not forget that...
He is a pass rusher, and teams often get so far ahead of us that they stop taking chances in the passing game.
Just because Jared Allen is having a beast of a year does not mean that Robison has to mirror that pace or ride the pine.
Teams often get so far ahead of us that they stop taking chances in the passing game.
False, we’ve been in all but three games this year and most were decided on the last drive (be it a turnover on downs or an 80 yard drive). While it’s ridiculous to expect JA type numbers from Robison, early in the year him and Allen were the best DE duo in the league. The past six or so games, he’s been damn near invisible in the run stuffing and pass rushing department.
While I don’t expect him to outperform or match Allen in sacks and tackles, I do expect him to make more plays routinely than the person below him on the depth chart and earn his starting role.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 22, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
Hmm... You seem to forget how these games went.
Sure, we lost a lot by only one score… but most of those were games where we came back from a large deficit late in the game to make it close.
The redskins game was close.
The Saints blew us out.
We were down 31-14 to the lions before we came back to make it a game.
The Falcons were up 17-0 before we came back to make it a game.
We were down 27-7 to the Raiders before we came back to make it a game.
The Packers blew us out.
The Panthers game was close.
We were down 33-17 against the Packers before coming back to make it a game.
The Bears blew us out.
We destroyed the Cards.
The first 4 games we had leads, and B-Rob had 2.5 sacks in those games.
So in 7 games out of 15, we were so far behind they stopped taking chances in the passing game. I think that qualifies as “Often”.
What do you mean the Vikings haven't gotten pick right after the first round?
Ray Edwards, Brian Robison, and Griffen are all 4th round picks.
"Winning isn't everything but losing is nothing" - Ace Bricka coach of the Galaxy Aces
New rule:
Draft a defensive end in the fourth round every year. Best D-line evar.
by Zach_Bodenner on Dec 22, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
HAHA, ALL YOUR DE’S ARE BELONG TO US.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 22, 2011 1:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You'll get a rec for that.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Don't forget that Jared Allen was also a 4th round pick.
That’s just weird (said in a John Madden voice).
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask of the Spiderman
And you don't trash talk about him
by REVENGE4WEBB on Dec 22, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
And. Christian Ballard, 4th round pick.
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask of the Spiderman
And you don't trash talk about him
by REVENGE4WEBB on Dec 22, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
Don't take things so literally
obviously they have gotten a couple picks right, though I don’t really think Robison has been any sort of huge success. Then again our other picks have been Asher Allen, Marcus Johnson, Raonall Smith, Dontarrious Thomas, Ryan Cook, Dustin Fox, Tyrell Johnson, to name a few in the past 5 years. So before you try to undercut me with an outlier maybe check the full draft history. It’s a pretty big failure.
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I think..
it speaks more to the coaching quality. Obviously, our D-line coach knows how to work with the talent given to him, if he’s molding all these 4th rounders into solid DEs. As opposed to the secondary coach, who’s had 3rd/2nd rounders and has failed to mature them.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 23, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Coincidentally..
Allen happens to be a former 4th rounder as well, I believe.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 23, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
The concerns about Griffen were legit.
He had the taser incident with the cops (no charges filed) and was starting up an entertainment/party business in the offseason with the whole big Las Vegas party planning thing. I remember thinking he was on his way to a troubled NFL career. Now it looks like he’s turned it around. I hope that’s the case.
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