Hey, There's A Football Game Tonight!
by Christopher Gates on Dec 22, 2011 7:15 PM CST
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Hey, since a lot of folks have Friday off. . .you do have Friday off, right. . .folks are going to be watching Thursday Night Football (aslongastheyhavetheNFLNetwork). And this game, which would appear to be a dog for most folks, has some interest to those of us that cheer for the Minnesota Vikings.
The Houston Texans have clinched the AFC South title and the first playoff berth in franchise history, despite being on their third different quarterback and not having receiver Andre Johnson for the better part of this season. Tonight, they travel to Indianapolis to take on the Colts, who got their first victory on Sunday afternoon, but would still hold the top overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft if it were held today.
That's where the interest for Viking fans comes in. If the Colts win this evening, it draws them even with the Vikings and Rams with two wins, and puts the top overall pick in the draft even more into play.
So, if you're going to be watching this one, feel free to talk about it with your fellow Viking fans here. Enjoy!
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Am I the only one watching?
I picked the Colts to win just for wishful thinking but they already sucked on the first play…..this could be ugly. At least we get to watch a team that’s worse than us!!!
I'm watching...
Not expecting much from the Colts. The only thing I ever think of with Orlovsky is Jared Allen chasing him out of the back of the end zone.
What a great start for the Colts!
If they do manage to win tonight though – the discussions tomorrow – Oh Lord!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I think
REVENGEFORKLUWE and REVENGEFORWEBB are the very same people and like to hold online discussions with themselves.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
LOL
That’s seriously what I was thinking when I was reading one of the debates the other night!!!! I had to keep reminding myself which REVENGE was which…..it was like following a soap opera or something.
Colts sure don't look like they're trying to tank anyway.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I'll never go without the DirectTV NFL package again.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
As much as I love the Colts....
(They’re my AFC team thanks to my wife’s affection for them)….I’m actually happy for the Texans for FINALLY making the playoffs. Good for them.
agreed
where do you hail from gerkvoltage?
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I've always lived in Minnesota....
Prior Lake. I’ll never leave here. I love it too much. My wife has always loved the Colts cuz she has a crush on Peyton Manning. lol
Live in Clinton, Iowa
Weird choice of a city for a Republican haha – Did you see that proposed Arden Hill’s Stadium proposal that AdmiralBigGun posted? Man those were beautiful!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I think I would actually tailgate if we got it built.....
I’ve never tailgated in my life cuz….tailgating sucks at the Dome.
OK
Got a score of Texans 10 – Colts 3 early in the fourth quarter. 1st and 10 for the Colts at their own 10.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
second quarter make that.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Very
spotty roughing the passer call against the Texans!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I will not be surprised if....
The colts pull this one out, outside of foster, houston offense does not look all that impressive, and please don’t forget….the colts are at HOME…LET GO INDY
Trust in LORD with all your Heart and lean not unto your own understanding; acknowledge Him in all your ways and He shall direct your path
PLUS....
Texans are in the playoffs already…..that’s a new thing for them. Remember the Cardinals a couple years back when they went to the Superbowl…..their last couple games were terrible…..so terrible T-Jack was named offensive player of the week against them.
Pass Interference
on the Texans. Not helping themselves with penalties tonight.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
3:36
Remaining in the second – Colts settle for a field goal and the score is Texans 10- Indy 6 (just throwing this up there for those unable to see the game)
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
GREAT TACKLE
By Bethea!!! He is a GOOD ball player!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Just got back in
Was out with the wife.
That was a hell of a stop by Jacob Lacey on that third and short.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 22, 2011 8:42 PM CST reply actions
Good thing you got back!
We already had to ban about 6 or seven people when you were gone!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Damn
Great drive by the Colts, and they wound up not getting anything.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 22, 2011 8:52 PM CST reply actions
Good looking boy ya got there
on your profile pic GV!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Now that I look at it blown up....
Her hair is tied back so I can totally understand…..don’t worry ’bout it!
Well that's embarrasing
but my eyes aren’t what they once were and I didn’t blow it up. Same applies though. And I see that now upon further inspection. :P
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Like I said....
Don’t worry ‘bout it. Thanks for the compliment tho! She’s a cutie…..she actually got to meet Chad Greenway a couple years back….she was totally excited. That’s whose jersey she’s wearing.
Greenway perhaps has had a down season
but he is still one of our leading tacklers and a person of high character since I’ve followed him since his years in Iowa. His coverage maybe leaves a lot to be desired, but the grief people give him on here in unwarranted imo, because he hustles always.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
at first...
…it really looked like the Colts were tanking it. now they actually appear to have control of both sides of the ball. well, until that missed FG… ha.
btw, Chris, Ted, anyone… any chance you could convince whoever programs the SB Nation app to work on the screen rotate function…?? Love the app so far, aside from typing a comment horizontally and my screen is still 90deg vertical…
go Colts!!
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
by rj-b on Dec 22, 2011 8:52 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I've read that the players like him.
I think it’s possible.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Dang!
Yates almost falls down then Foster loses the football, but the Texans still recover but short of the first down which causes a punt. Come on Indy!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
He sure did.
Colts have a decent drive going here.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
dude, did the Autobots take over the commentary...??
are the audio issues a network thing, or is that just on my end??
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
by rj-b on Dec 22, 2011 9:32 PM CST via Android app reply actions
it's working for me
but NFLN in notorious for it’s audio problems….
A few years back I watched a complete half where they had no audio at all…no joke!
Adam Vinatieri
boots a (insert distance) field goal which makes it 13 – 9 Texans.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Yikes
Colts catch a break right there!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Got a nice drive going here!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
10 yd holding penalty!
dang!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
damn looks like our offense out there!
Mental mistakes
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
This is a huge series (possibly)
in regards to our draft scenarios!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
13 - 12 Texans with (insert time) in the Fourth Quarter
Where is Tebow when you need him?
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
this maybe a little early
but whats a good stream for the game on Saturday?
I am in Houston right now and I wont be able to see the game
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
Map of all streams in the Houston area.
http://www.hookandbullet.com/c/fishing-houston-tx-streams/
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Arain Foster has GREAT blocking in front of him
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
You have to be shitting me!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
That's Viking type stuff!!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Miss this field goal !!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
You've been Orlovskied!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
damn what a catch...!!
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
by rj-b on Dec 22, 2011 10:17 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Roughing the Passer!!!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
wow
texans are trying to help us out as much as they can
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
by rj-b on Dec 22, 2011 10:19 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Will the gods smile on the Vikes?
hahahhahaha
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
The Vikings could win this one!
Wait, am I on LSD or something?
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Pass Interference!!
again – having heart attack!!!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
FLAAAAAAAAG!!!!
hahahaha awesome
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
by rj-b on Dec 22, 2011 10:22 PM CST via Android app reply actions
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
TD!
The Vikings could – go – all – the – way!!!!
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 10:23 PM CST reply actions
That was the worst Red-Zone defense I've ever seen.
3 or 4 penalties I think?
Oh well. In line for 1st pick now! If that’s a good thing.
~Lah~ ♪♫
I think the Colts might still have us on SoS
I think the only way we get Luck is if they beat the Jaguars and we lose out.
Nope
Just 1. Next week is the season finale. If the Colts beat a Jags team, and they easily can since they’ve beaten both a better Texans and a better Titans team, then we have to deal with *Ponder*ing about Luck.
See what I see there? See?
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh.
The thing I hate most about this terrible season is having to read about that topic everywhere.
Good lord
I don’t think the Texans could have pissed that one down their legs any worse.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 22, 2011 10:24 PM CST reply actions
Saturday
If the Vikings go out a win vs a bad redskins team im not sure how I should feel??
yeah, Reggie Wayne is a free agent, right??
i dont care how old he is, i wouldnt mind seeing him in purple.
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Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
by rj-b on Dec 22, 2011 10:24 PM CST via Android app reply actions
He's in purple... a Vikings fan, right?
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
What am I saying?
With Al Bundy rooting for us no wonder we had such a crappy season…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! DAN ORLOVSKY!!
So you’re tellin’ me there’s a chance!!!!
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Jared Allen
can you see HIM PLAYING THAT 5 TECHNIQUE Like ummmmmmm….JJ WATTS played tonight!!!!! in the 3-4 defense!!!!
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by PAtxMADDENKING on Dec 22, 2011 10:27 PM CST reply actions
Yes, I could see that being not too shabby.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Man, if the Colts can do that, they'll destroy the Jags
We’ll still manage to mess it up somehow… probably win out and get like the 5th pick.
The only reason to want the first pick is to draft Luck
Would we do that?
by Bodysuit Man on Dec 22, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
If we decide to keep Ponder, we can make a KILLING on people trading up for Luck.
Someone will give up a ransom for the next Manning.
Man are you crazy
We count our losses…and we grab LUCK
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by PAtxMADDENKING on Dec 22, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
If he's the next Manning
we would be the dumbest team in the history of pro football to trade the pick. Another Walker trade.
by Bodysuit Man on Dec 22, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just saying that if the FO/Coaches are absolutely convinced about Ponder
They can make teams pay out the wazoo for Luck. Personally, I’d lean towards taking Luck. Talent like that doesn’t come around every year. We’d probably suck for a year or two until we can bolster our OLine and WR corps. And secondary. But I think he’d be pretty damn good eventually.
I dunno..
3 1st rounders would go a long way toward helping build this team, presuming we make the proper selections with them.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Totally stupid to NOT keep Luck if we can get the #1 pick.
Ponder isn’t looking so hot at this point.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
Things don’t fall into place for the Vikings quite like this.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
For the Vikings FO
this isn’t ‘falling into place.’ I’m sure if they had their choice, they wouldn’t want the #1 selection and all the pressure to take Luck it comes with.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I think you might be right.
Particularly as a new GM (would we get one?) might like the idea of showing up for a team with the first pick of the draft.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Manning don't want them to draft Luck
Winning would take the pressure off the Indy FO…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I thought the inside money was betting against Manning ever playing again.
Still, wouldn’t it be weird if Manning pulls a Favre? Would be an interesting dynamic with Luck for sure if Manning still wants to be the man for a few years.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Naw, I don't think anyone thought he'd never play again
At least not enough to bet money on it. Especially now that its reported he’s been throwing in pads after practice. And the Colts have said if he recovers, they’re going to keep him, not trade him.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Hadn't heard the more recent news.
My info was 2 – 3 weeks old.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Yeah they just reported he was throwing like last thursday
So there was some speculation he might play today.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
What happened to Painter? Or whatever his name is?
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
He was demoted to scraper!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Injured, I think.
That’s why they’re playing Orlovsky. Painter is their 2nd string.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
or apparently demoted.
Clearly he wasn’t doing much after going like 0-11
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously.
Painter was horrible. How could they keep Orlovksy on the bench that long?
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
I think up until last week Orlovsky had never won a game?
Did they say that on NFL Network? I may be wrong
by Zach_Bodenner on Dec 23, 2011 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
It's inappropriate to make fun of expecting QB's!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Its true
If Indy had gone 0-16, he’d have quarterbacked for the only 2 teams to go undefeated in a season.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 23, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Err, I mean
the opposite of undefeated.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 23, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
It certainly does
And if they go on a streak, its even better. Even if we lose out now, though, they’re stuck with that #1 pick, I believe.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm confused?
Strength of schedule favors us over St. Louis for the 2nd pick if they lose out and we do too.
If Indy wins next week, they have 3 wins… we have 2. How do they get the #1 pick over us.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
If we lose out
and Indy falls to the Jags, they still get the #1 pick. Or its very much heavily aligned in their favor to.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I meant
by ‘we’ I meant us and the Colts.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
There will be 300 articles about this tomorrow
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Ugh, I know.
My position on the possibility is having the #1 pick is well documented, so I think I may just stay out of it. Got my fill of that discussion in the last couple threads.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
That 800+ thread
was migraine inducing!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Your and RFWEBB'S
banter is pretty entertaining though.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
That was the funnest non-Viking game I can remember for a long time!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I only saw the last five minutes.
And I’m still not going to be able to sleep for hours. Never felt that kind of stress watching either the Colts or the Texans play before. Wow.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
This is actually my birthday.
This shit was written in the stars baby!!!!!!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Well, you better have another birthday next week so Indy wins again.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Muchas Gracias
Legal to drink now – twice over and then some.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Happy Birthday
May all your dreams come true!
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Garuntee a vikes win on Christmas eve
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
That's exactly what I was thinking
Grossman will have a career game.
by Bodysuit Man on Dec 22, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
try to say that again without laughing
"Never take your eyes off of your opponent…even when you bow."
Hey
he had some big games against us when he was playing for Chicago. It could happen.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
WHERE"S THE BAN BUTTON WHEN U NEED ONE
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by PAtxMADDENKING on Dec 22, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
AP should really rest that day!
Rosenfels needs some reps as well!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Heck, go all the way...
Have Brad Childress start as quarterback… he’s on the payroll anyway…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
And people thought I was crazy
when I suggested the Colts might get hot after winning last week. Psshh. Look out Jags.
Indy sucks so bad they can't even lose when they are supposed to.
Well, that’s just our dumb Luck.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Let the speculation begin!
and The over-analysis.
and The hype.
and The ultra hype.
and The improbable trade scenarios.
I predict 536 opinions from 427 commenters.
Your fantasy football expert since Jerry Rice's rookie year.
Well the Rams
will not Win another game so does it eve matter? The Colts could very well beat the Jags. next week and I dont see the Vikes beating the Skins at Washington. The game that worries me is the Chicago game, they will probably be out of the playoff picture and pretty much give up on the season.
by Fantasy Master on Dec 22, 2011 10:36 PM CST reply actions
And our guys won't have?
From what I’ve seen on the field, we’ve already decided to say ‘fuck it.’ If they get Cutler back for whatever reason, we’re toast. Hell, we might even be toast with Josh McCown.
No lead is safe with our secondary.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
Right, and they won't have Cutler. And it's at home. We need to really try harder to lose that one.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Need to work out those rookies ya know
Practice squad guys too!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
But they still have Hester
And he loves to score TDs on us.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Kluwe, Just punt it to Hester, okay?
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Shit, he doesn't even have to.
McCown can just chuck it up to him when he gets wide open from Sanford not helping out Allen in coverage.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
The Rams could win a game
They’re facing Charlie Batch and a Niners team that will have everything sewn up.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
You are dreaming. But maybe we could lace the niners water cooler with giardia.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Or Harbaugh could bench all of his starters
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Yea, but I don't think that's his style. Plus I think they will go for better homefield advantage.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
They've already beaten the Saints
Why not the Steelers next? They do have Chris Long and the Steeler’s O-line isn’t anything special.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
And the Steelers will be starting either Charlie Batch or a completely immobile Roethlisberger at QB
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Good point. Roethlisberger looked bad on that ankle last week.
Hopefully Batch is rusty.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
We might be happier that the Colts website!!!!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Who's going to stay up all night and crunch the numbers...
…and tell us all where the draft ranking stand now… and who has to do what for the last 2 weeks? I’m not smart enought to do it, but I’d stay up with a pot of coffee hitting “refresh” all night if someone’s out there running the numbers.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
There was a post on the main page today about that.
Someone at Stampede Blue did all the number crunching for us.
Ah. Just checked it out.
Well, one of the sports guys from an Indianapolis radio station has run the numbers a bit more extensively than I have, and it appears that the only way the Colts are going to fall out of the number one spot in the draft is if they win both of their final two games. The Colts play tomorrow night against Houston, and finish the season with a trip to Jacksonville. Derek Schultz has played out what is the “worst case” for Indianapolis and the “best case” for both Minnesota and St. Louis, and finds that if all three teams were to finish 2-14, it looks like the Colts would stay at #1, while the Vikings would pick second and St. Louis would end up in third.
Jacksonville must lose. Jacksonville must lose. Jacksonville must lose. Come on everybody, say it with me. Jacksonville must lose.
:-)
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
They have Blaine Gabbert
Blaine Gabbert is good at losing.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
They'll probably do that well enough on their own
I didn’t see the game, just the final score, but I’m surprised Arian Foster didn’t tear the Colts up for a win. I was thinking MJD could, but if they can handle Foster..
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure you won't have to wait long
once word of the Colts’ victory spreads. Way to spite your fans, Indy!
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Just a thought
If we end up with the 3rd pick and Luck and Kalil go 1-2, I think it’s a no-brainer to trade the pick to someone desperate for RGIII. Am I crazy here?
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Okay, "We can lose, We can lose, We can lose..."
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Not at all.
Especially since one of those teams will probably be picking low anyhow.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
No, you're exactly right
I think we could talk a team like Miami or Washington into a deal in that case.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 22, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Especially with Barkley out of the picture
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Indy doesn't even need Andrew Luck
when they have Orvlowsky!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Am I the only one embarrassed about Vikings fans wanting to lose?
I mean what kind of crap is that? I know there is a very good chance that they will considering the talent but I cannot type that I want them to lose or overtly root for them to lose.
If the Vikings get the #1 pick then they are in a tough spot. If they cannot get a decent trade offer then they are stuck with having to decide if Andrew Luck is truly a once in a generation QB or if they should just take Matt Kalil. If they take Kalil and Ponder flops while Luck turns out to be all that then it will go down in infamy as one of the worst decisions ever. If they take Luck and he flops then that will be equally as bad.
Whatever. I cannot bring myself to root for the number 1 pick in the draft. I do not go out like that and never will.
You play the game to win! Period!
by MarkSP18 on Dec 22, 2011 10:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Of course the players play the game to win
But as a fan, what benefit is winning at this point?
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Pride
I’d like to say we broke even with the Bears rather than have them able to brag about sweeping us. Again.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
I see McCown is going to start vs the Pack.
But we all get it with the pride thing, It sends a terrible message to the other players, the fans, to Viking precepts, and to every other “Pride and Prejudice” related matter on Earth. And guaranteed our Vikes will try to win this game. But is just expands all of the possibilities of what we might be able to do with the choices if it were to happen to occur, and that is why the excitement.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
Most are joking anyway!
Of course you play to win! We have a very good chance in both of our next games imo.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
There's no shame in wanting the 1st pick...
…when your team is sitting at 2-12.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
We finally have something legitamate to root for this season,
and you want to be a stick in the mud?
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Don't worry, we have Cedric Griffin and Joe Berger ready to go.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
I'm not cheering for them to lose
Not even close. They’re 2-12 now, and I’d love for them to end up 4-12.
But having the #1 pick in the 2012 NFL Draft is a real possibility. . .and this team hasn’t picked first overall since 1968. It’s a strange position for Viking fans to be in.
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by Christopher Gates on Dec 22, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
When we picked Ron Yary, who anchored the O-Line for 15 years
And gave our quarterbacks great protection and opened up great holes to run through…
With AP and Gerhardt and Ponder an O-line guy might be the one who can make us unstoppable on offense…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
We are NOT taking an o-lineman with the #1 pick
Not this year. We’re taking Luck or trading the pick (for a TON)
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Many of us are PISSED that the Vikings could ever go 2-14 at this point in the season
And we get even more pissed when we see articles in the St. Paul paper which says that Frazier thinks Musgrave is a great offensive coordinator. Is Frazier insane?
I overachieved in everything I ever did in sports but with this coaching staff there is no way to win, and with the underachievers we have on the Vikings the only thing that will help is motivated and skilled draft picks or free agents who will drag these people to the top…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
If it was written that "Frazier thinks Musgrave is a great offensive coordinator"
Then I think maybe he is just sticking up for his coaches for public relations purposes.
Iy’s not like he is going to throw him under the bus. Plus, if he were to criticize Musgrave,
then he would have to answer criticism of his own performance from the media.
But, yes, I think Frazier is a bit out of touch.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Nope
I’m right there with you. Its why I chide Indy fans who are all for getting Luck.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
with ya Mark no way in hell do I want them to lose I always root for the win fk the pick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by cali viking on Dec 22, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
It's not crap - we need something positive to happen.
Ever heard the expression, “lose the battle, win the war?”
I am in NO way rooting for us to lose, per se, but I will darn well not be unhappy at all if we do. We could use some positive buzz.
hahahaha
Looks like the Vikings might have a tough decision come draft day if they indeed end up with the number 1 overall pick.
They just said on NFLN that the Luck pick could bring 3 first-rounders in a trade
I’d have to think long and hard about that offer.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
I would take the three...
But no one will be able to cobble together 3 first-rounders, so the point is moot…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
I believe they said three future first-rounders
So we’d get their first-rounder in ’12, ’13 and ’14
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
That's what I thought too.
I wonder if they were thinking first round picks in 2012, 2013 and 2014. Otherwise I don’t really see how it’s doable.
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
I would want at least 2 1st round picks this year for that trade.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
Cleveland has two firsts this year
If they offered us both of them and a first in ‘13…I’d consider it.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
Yea, I'd consider it. And then just take Luck.
well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?
And say we struggle next year
which is possible and fairly likely if we can’t quite get this O-Line and secondary shored up, we’d have two first rounds the following year, and in a matter of two years time we have added some awesome young players to this roster, and man, it’s all theory but it’s nice to think about.
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I'd snag Cleveland's offer
And they’d probably be the most willing to do it. For them, they just miss out on the 1st rounders this year and next. Everyone else misses 3. Which is a long time without your ‘sure-fire’ talent the first round is supposed to bring.
You’d have to be really confident in your scouting to go without a 1st rounder for an extra 2 years.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
It could cripple you for 10 years
Or make you better for 10 years.
Either way, big gamble…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
I'd consider that offer from Cleveland, don't think I'd doing
To get the Luck pick, someone’s going to have to do something outright stupid, not just take a big gamble.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
yeah, however
I think the Vikings could actually get way more then that for Luck, though I’m not sure how much. either way, the Vikings are coming to a cross roads. Do they draft Luck and have him be the face of the future? Do they try to make out like a bandit and trade that pick away for a huge bounty? Or do they draft for a need with the first overall pick? Very hard decision to make here.
We still have the draft process to go through
At this time last year, I don’t think Cam Newton was regarded as the #1 QB prospect, but he wound up being so. But, for now.. yeah, it looks like their hand will pretty much be forced, and Andrew Luck will be the selection.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Dec 22, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
We also have some time before the draft
People move up and fall down all the time due to a number of factors… and RGIII, with his newly minted Heisman, could conceivable move up…
by liveforadrenaline on Dec 22, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
If anyone drafts someone other than Luck with the first overall pick this year
Their GM should be fired on the spot
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
NO-LUCK OPTION??
Can the Vikings work out a trade where they accumulate a lot of picks and still obtain Kahlil??
by vking1 on Dec 22, 2011 11:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
That is the Exact same question that has been bothering me!
(waiting for smarter guys to come along) – That is a guy we freakin need!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
I think they can
Mike Holmgrem did make a statement this season, that he was interested in a getting a new QB and with the fall out and bad blood with Colt McCoy and the Browns organization. I think the Vikings could get the browns to give up their 2 first round picks in this draft, their 1st round pick in 2013, and their 2nd round pick this year. for the number 1 pick(assuming we do end up with with the first overall pick)
How about this?
Get Cleveland’s two first round picks this year and their OT, Joe Thomas. I doubt the Browns would do this but I would in a second if I was the Vikes GM.
Heck, I would probably trade the #1 pick for just Thomas and the higher of the two picks.
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would be the only untouchable player in a deal for Luck, but I would take that deal in about .5 seconds.
by Zach_Bodenner on Dec 23, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
If we're #1 and the Colts are #2 that scenario would be in play.
It’d be like the Eli for Rivers and picks trade. We’d pick Luck and the Colt’s would pick Kalil and the bartering would either begin or a deal would be worked out before the draft. That’s also assuming that we wouldn’t just keep Luck : )
by CanadianViking on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
Keep Luck and trade Ponder?
FWIW, I’d much rather see you guys get Luck. Colts have already had their Manning. They’re do for some QB problems, no?
Quite frankly...
I really hope Ponder has a massive game and makes this decision for us by getting a win or two here and we focus on secondary and O-line like we need.
True.
But even with the supposed sure-thing Luck is I still would feel worse back at square one like last draft than having a questionable but potentially good QB in Ponder and get right to the lineman and secondary. Pick Luck and watch more lineman and secondary players we need get swept up by other teams…
Yeah but so what - if Ponder stinks next year and the year after that...
…then we’re back at square one even FARTHER down the road.
Makes good logic to either get killer picks for Luck or else do NOT trade him and just keep him. Ponder can be a serviceable and tradable back-up if that’s the case.
agreed...
however in my opinion makes more sense to pull a patriots and get as many picks as you can.
The Vikings also need to get rid of this TOA and have one guy make the picks. Need to have someone accountable for the team (GM)
by VikesFanInMissouri on Dec 23, 2011 3:37 AM CST up reply actions
you give your qb the best chance to win
and you dont do that by selecting Luck. Besides even Aaron Rodgers wouldnt play effective behind this oline so how can you expect a rookie qb to?
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Dec 23, 2011 7:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Things
I am hoping that the Wilf’s don’t retain Frazier and his two coordinators. Do we really want to allow this coaching staff to be the one’s that initially develop whomever we draft? LF,‘s record is 5-17 I believe since he was named Interim HC. Do we really want to entrust this staff with this team. We more than likely with the current crop of talent, going to be picking in the top 5 of the 2013 draft. If we have a 4-12 season for example, what chance is their realistically that LF is HC after next season. We have alot of options picking either 1,2 or 3. If we pick one, do we take Andrew Luck? I hope so. We should be able to trade Ponder for a great pick, and maybe a player that isn’t a work in progress. We are in serious need in just about every aspect of the game. We have a horrendous O-line, one slot receiver, no true 1 or 2 receiver. A pathetic secondary, issues at Linebacker, (Henderson…gone)..Greenway is underachieving.
in all honesty though…could the 2012 season be the curtain call for this team here. If the Wilf’s don’t do something dramatic, and intelligent, like hire a HC that has a proven track record, and we post a subpar season in 2012, the expectation of the Vikings playing in Minny in 2013, is very slim. Do we really want as taxpayers be building a BILLION dollar stadium for an organization that has underachieved for the past 51 years? Four SB losses…when we were the hands down better team. Another 4 NFC Championships lost, when we were again hands down, in 3 out of four of those games better than who we lost two.
Imagine for a moment if we succeeded the past 51 years like the Steelers, Cowboys, Giants, 49er’s to name four. Four teams that all have multiple World Championships. WE SHOULD BE…mentioned in the same breath as these teams…and we are epically failing…
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