Albert Haynseworth to Vikings?

The dude never would have signed to play for a 3-4 team because he did not want to play nose. What is wrong with that?

I agree for the most part. I mean, it was his choice where he wanted to play and he did make it clear that he wanted to play in a 4-3 defense. He had a right to be pissed about having to switch defenses.

His attitude is always disappointing too but I think Shanahan definitely made a spectacle of it. It didn’t really ever seem like he wanted things to work with Haynesworth. The whole Haynesworth saying he wasn’t good enough to play in the base defense comment was certainly odd. I’d assume that was something he was told and not something he himself felt.

The only thing is would the Vikings FO really want to take on his enormous contract? Maybe they could try and re-negotiate it or something?

I don’t think it takes intelligence to see he’d benefit more in our scheme than in the Redskin’s scheme. I mean, with K Williams and Jared Allen, he’s going to have some decent stats, if simply because defenders will have multiple, dangerous threats to prepare for.

Furthermore, Haynesworth did say he wanted to play for the Vikings last offseason- which was, in fact, a dumb thing considering (like I said in the post above) that we had no need and therefore no interest in him- particularly seeing as how whoever had him was going to be cutting a large check last season for his… “services”.

Again, particularly considering our D-line already has a recent troublemaker on it.

That’s why I believe a BB for Haynesworth trade would be a possibility. Mark is correct in the fact that BB is likely to be released anyways, so most teams wouldn’t bother trading for him (similiar to our Sage Rosenfals situation in the preseason- why trade for someone you can get for “free” with a little patience?). But again- Snyder is a moron, and Wilf isn’t. I bet he could fleece that egotistical idiot. At worse, a conditional draft pick might have to be thrown in. Hell, throw M. Williams in while you’re at it.

Your point was too vague. Can you clarify if you’re in favor of the trade or not?

(Sarcastic humor doesn’t always translate well over the interwebs. Please don’t bother answering that.)

He’s not a bad guy cause he couldn’t make it work in Washington…this is why he’s a bad guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ

You’re absolutely right about Jared Allen- he reformed quite well in that regard. Michael Vick would be another great example.

One thing that bothers me, as I posted above, is the age. Both Vick and Allen were quite young (relatively speaking) when they did their stupid things. I’m far more inclined to forgive someone for stupidity in youth than stupidity in mature ages, like Haynesworth is at.

But again, let’s overlook that. What bothers me is his handling of the whole scheme shift in Washington. Yes, it was in his right to complain, and even to push for a trade. Again, if you’re 100% selfless, teams will totally abuse you as a person and a player- an NFL pro simply can’t do that and survive the business aspect. But that said, I think he took it waaaayyyy too far, ESPECIALLY at the amount he was being paid- and yes, that matters to me. Again, if we’re willing to let players retain some selfish ‘me’ attitudes to surive the business aspect, well, Haynesworth had already banked, and did bank. The truth is he will never, ever get that kinda contract again- no matter how succesful he was. No team would be stupid enough to pull that stunt again, and furthermore, by the time his contract was up with the ‘skins he’d be far too old to warrant anything even in that ballpark.

So with that in mind, when a trade didn’t happen and he still got his ridiculous bonus, he should have manned up and done his damn job. Again, I compare it to Ray Edwards, who wasn’t even in a well paid situation like Haynesworth. To me, Edwards, who is still in his prime, had a far bigger concern- and yes, he complained and let his displeasure be known. But once it was all said and done, he performed to (at least to me) the best of his abilities, didn’t quit, and in general was a hardworking team player.

Again, like I posted above- it’s a huge red flag for me. It strikes me as being the kinda thing where he could revert to those antics over a number of situations, even situations as simple as Jared Allen having the spotlight instead of him.

Locker room cancers are what keep teams out of the Super Bowl. Talent is great and helps tremendously, but teamwork and effort is what wins the day. Again, compare Green Bay and Pittsburgh. QB aside, I’d say, once Woodson was out of it, the Steelers had better talent at each position. And while no, the Steelers didn’t have any locker room cancers of their own, the adveristy that Green Bay had overcome all season allowed them to continue working as a solid team, even when players were STILL dropping like flies in the Super Bowl itself.

Haynesworth isn’t that kind of player- he’s shown this. If we were in the position Green Bay had found itself in, I’d see him quitting on us.

1.) I don’t. Again- Devil’s Advocate, and Bored Cuz There’s Nothing Else to Talk About.
2.) I agree. This is the only possible deal I see for him, again, mostly because Shanahan will probably take anything to get rid of Haynesworth, and he won’t exactly be fielding daily phone calls over the matter. In all likelihood, Berrian will be cut. The only way it won’t happen is if he takes a massive paycut- in which case, hell, keep him for a few downs a game.
3.) I’m fine with that- really, the fact that we’ve been the antithesis to that strategy is what’s kept us out of the Super Bowl for far too long. It all worked like magic in 2009… but then showed what happens just one year later in 2010. I’d much rather be like you guys- a consistent threat because the team in general has several years in it.

The vast majority of DEs, LBs, NTs, and DTs should be hyper aggresive individuals who occasionally commit assault- which is thanfully not the case. Take Jared Allen for example. His mistake was DUIs- not assault. And Jared Allen seems more aggressive than average- hell, his hobbies include hunting (including, apparently, hunting boar with a freakin’ knife at one point) and cross-training in MMA. And again, to the best of my knowledge (please correct me if I’m wrong), he’s never even once been accused of assault. Many of us should remember the video of him at a club after someone called his then-fiance a filthy name- Allen was flipping out, but he was held back by individuals he could have certainly bowled outta his way had he simply snapped and been truly determined to blast that scum. And jeeze- I bet a lot of us here wouldn’t have handled that situation with half the self-control he did, and we’re not DEs.

I’ll accept the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ arguments right now for his assault- as well as apparently feeling up a waitress. (See below). But if it is true, then it’s a blemish on his record, just like Everson Griffin’s antics are a blemish on his.

everyone in the metro Washington area is sick and tired of his antics on and off the field…. i cringe every time there is breaking news on the Skins on local TV… 99.9% of the time its fat Albert getting in trouble again…. no way would i want this dude to be on the Vikes squad……

Overall he’s a million $ player with a nickel brain!