Where We Roll Two Stories Into One

Quick background to my point: i saw an article(may have been on here, don’t remember) about the US soccer union and their CBA getting worked out. Landon Donovan said that once he heard the NFL was using the same Fed mediator that they did, he knew they would get a deal done. He was saying the mediator obviously can’t make any decisions, but he got their(soccer) owners to view the situation differently and be a little more open-minded and question their initial stances and try to get each side to see the other’s point of view. I think that’s what we’re finally seeing. It also helps that I don’t think the owners feel like they’d get that good of a deal in litigation anymore so it’s in their best interest to negotiate. It’s actually probably best for the players to decertify and take this to court. In all likelihood they would get a better deal there, but sounds like they don’t want to go through that hassel if a deal can be reached by negotiating.

With as limited a number of games as are played in the NFL, everyone of them counts, making each game of importance to a fan. And, by the end of those 16 games teams are virtually the walking wounded. I think it was Howie Long on the Fox pregame show who said that not only should the rosters be expanded if the NFL should go to an 18-game schedule, but that there should also be two bye weeks for teams rather than just one.

Everyone (except for one or two posters who linked to an OK article) seems to be in favor of more competition. Would not a vet provide that competition? Also, I imagine someone who plays not for money (or fame, presumably) but for the love of the game would be OK taking a pay cut (renegotiated incentive contract) to sit behind whoever wins the QB competition.

who else will we get as a vet stop-gap? Now, to clarify, I’m firmly against letting any rookie start right off the bat as a matter of principle, and I’m also not sold on Joe Webb being the starter next season either. So I am framing this argument in the light that I simply feel we need a vet for one or two years.

I think, between the current looks of Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, and Carson Palmer (oh, and that junk collection of FA QBs), Palmer’s our best bet. NOW- we do have to keep in mind that we’re going to have to trade for him, and we don’t know yet what that trade would entail. If, for example, the Bengals want AP for Palmer, and the Titans/ Redskins are willing to trade their QBs for, say, Asher Allen or Bernard Berrian (heck, give ‘em both), then obviously I’ll sing a very different tune.

And if we have a rookie or Webb who is ready next year, you pass the reigns over to them because we’re looking at the future. We release/trade Palmer at that point in time if he still wants to keep playing, we thank him for his services, but he has to realize that’s going to be his job: a year or two tops(maybe even 3).

nothin wrong with bringin palmer in when all we have is joe webb and rhett bomar. both in which most likly will never be starters

There’s a lot of depth in this year’s draft. If we had a late #1 and two #2s, we could get(Titus or the guy from Pitt); an Olineman, and a QB(that’s all hopefully in the first 2 rounds).

that his rights would still belong to the Bengals should he retire and un-retire, and a trade would still have to happen. With Favre, he didn’t retire from Green Bay and then jump over to the Jets- the Jets had to trade for him when Favre changed his mind. When Favre retired from the Jets, he did so as a FA, with no team holding rights to him- allowing him the freedom to pick whichever team he wanted, and said team getting him for no trade.

Good friend of mine is a Big Bengals fan, and he’s convinced Mike Brown will call Palmer’s bluff and make him retire.

…one of our 5th rounders and Berrian. do it. DO. IT.

Palmer is a short term solution. Depending on how his health holds up, he’s more stable than Favre or McNabb, but at best I would think Palmer would be a three year stopgap.

You still need to grab a guy, in my opinion. Now, you COULD argue that we don’t need to get a guy in the first round, or how hypothetically trading for Palmer would or would not change the draft strategy going forward, but I would think that a QB would still be a must.

I don’t see any way we don’t pick up a QB in the draft this year. Even if we pick up Vince Young I see us pulling a QB, just probably in the second round instead of the first. I hate to say it but I’m starting to think Mallet might be better than Locker.

I don’t understand why people would even think this. The guy was a 6th round draft pick he hasn’t earned squat yet. He’s played a couple of games and has yet to throw a TD. Personally if Webb thinks this is his job to lose he’s an idiot, and I don’t think he’s stupid. No Webb will at best realize this orginization is going to do everything it can to win. If he wants to be part of that he had better come strong and be the best QB that the Vikes have.

We’ve spent to long in the coddle zone with TJ where everyone is making excuses for the man. We need to get past this and look at it as the profession it is.

put Webb’s feelings in front of the best interests of the team. You can’t do that with any player, not even AP. If the FO doesn’t believe Webb is the bona fide QBOTF, then we need to look in the draft for one.

Besides, competition is good. If you can’t handle competing for your starting job, then you probably can’t handle being the starting QB.