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It's Official - Tarvaris Jackson's Days As A Viking Are Over

First off, kudos to rukiddn for mentioning this already in the FanPosts, but I just wanted to touch on it a bit more here.

In what can only be described as an earth shattering news break, it’s been made official- the Minnesota Vikings have confirmed that Tarvaris Jackson, the five year perennial starter/backup/starter/backup quarterback, will not be tendered by the team. While the whole CBA process still looms heavy over these kind of announcements, in that we have no idea at what point TJack will be free to seek alternative employment, this means that at the first possible opportunity the divorce will be official.

I was thinking some about this last night, and a few interesting points came into my mind. More after the jump.

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So long, TJack.

Star-divide

Now, again, if this development surprises you- well, I just don’t know what to say. Jackson didn’t have much going for him as far as furthering his career as a Minnesota Viking. Granted, he has had his good games and his nice moments throughout his tenure- but he’s also had far more in the department of failures and head-smack inducing moments. He’s also no rookie- he’s a five year vet, and a five year vet who’s had numerous chances to make that starting job his. At this point it was safe to say that his development with the Vikings had long ago hit a ceiling.

Before we move on, let’s be fair and balanced here about this situation. Tarvaris Jackson was selected by Brad Childress in his first year as a ‘diamond in the rough’ quarterback in the second round- he was, from the start, meant to be a developmental project, not a sure thing or a day one starter. And for a developmental guy, he was thrown to wolves awfully fast, his first start coming at the end of his rookie season in a game against the Packers- and in a game where the weather simply seemed to hate the football players on the field. And keep in mind, this was also in the season in which he was quoted as saying he didn’t feel ready to start after two previous relief efforts. After his rookie season, he was named the starter for 2007, and had mediocre (at best) results.

After this, Jackson never had a sure bead on whether or not he was the starter. He consistently competed against journeyman vets, being made the starter, backup, and starter again in a single season in 2008. And while Tarvaris Jackson faced a lot of adversity, he at least had one thing going for him- his head coach, Brad Childress, seemed to have unwavering faith that one day, Jackson would fulfill his ‘promise’.  That lasted right up until the 2010 offseason, when Childress decided it was better to send Ryan Longwell, Jared Allen, and Steve Hutchinson away from practice and down to Mississippi to collect some Brett Favre guy, rather than trust in Jackson should Favre, in fact, decide to just call it a career. At that point, it was safe to say that there was absolutely nothing positive left for Tavaris Jackson in Minnesota.

But here’s the very interesting thing about the situation, one I haven’t heard anyone say. The Vikings are obviously in a bit of a transition phase regarding both coaching and quarterbacking. Darrell Bevell and Brad Childress have been replaced by Bill Musgrave and Leslie Frazier. And with Brett Favre having faded away, the only returning quarterback the Vikings now have on roster is Joe Webb, the former rookie third stringer who spent the majority of the 2010 campaign leading the practice team.

Is this decision to cut ties with Jackson bad? No, it’s not. It’s good for the Vikings, for Leslie Frazier, and for Tarvaris Jackson himself. There’s undoubtedly bad mojo between TJack and the Vikes, and Frazier is looking to stamp his own mark upon the team- and TJack was one of the biggest marks of the Childress era. And we’re finally, after many years, looking towards the future at our quarterback situation- we’re done getting journeyman vets to hold down the fort while TJack develops into our QBOTF.

But that said, with our current quarterback situation, it’s still a bit of an interesting move. There’s no guarantee that we’re finding our QBOTF in the draft- short of moving up in the first round, our #12 pick may not be high enough to get one of the top ranked QB prospects. And with the potential lockout possibly keeping OTAs and training camp from happening, as well as casting a pall over FA, getting ourselves a Carson Palmer/ Donovan McNabb type is questionable as well. There is, in fact, the distinct possibility that we are going to enter the 2011 season (whenever it starts) with a QB rotation of Joe Webb/ Rhett Bomar/ Patrick Ramsey.

If you ask me, picking between Joe Webb and Tavaris Jackson is a no-brainer. We’re pretty much positive at this point that TJack is not our answer- and while Webb has lots of question marks, we at least have a potential of success there. But what about picking between Bomar/ Jackson? And Ramsey/ Jackson? Neither Ramsey nor Bomar can possibly have any grasp of our offense yet. And should we not have any offseason programs available, that’s not changing anytime soon. At least Jackson knows our receivers- he’s thrown passes to Percy Harvin, to Bernard Berrian, and to Sidney Rice (fingers crossed on that last one even being with us next year). He’s played behind our O-line, and he’s handed off to Adrian Peterson. (OK, two things there- first off, handing off a ball to a RB doesn’t take lots of training, so that’s probably a non-issue. And secondly, Jackson did, in fact, take out Peterson’s knee on a handoff last season. Let’s just go ahead and leave that one off the list, shall we?)

So, with that in mind- and I have to believe it’s also in Frazier’s mind- it’s very interesting to note that Jackson was still released, and without any apparent second thought. One must wonder what went on behind the scenes- if anything. Perhaps there was simply no communication whatsoever, and both sides were simply aware that this move was happening one way or another. Perhaps Jackson made it clear to the FO that he had no interest in being part of this organization for another season- and I can’t blame him. And again, perhaps Frazier simply saw Jackson as another mark of Childress’ legacy, a legacy he’s keen to move on from ASAP. And yet, it’s still surprising in a sense that the notion of retaining Jackson as a backup for just one more season while the quarterback situation is settled seems to have never come up- that Frazier never met with Jackson and discussed the possibility with him, and that Jackson didn’t sense a potential ‘fresh start’ right in his own home team with the coaching regime change.

As I said before, this move is in the end neither surprising nor a disagreeable one. But, when one scratches the surface, it does yield a few interesting questions. But one final thought- I do have to say I wish Tarvaris Jackson success wherever he goes (except, of course, against the Vikings).

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Sorry about that.

Dunno what happened, but crisis averted.

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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That's

sad…./s.

Wish him luck. I have to say this is showing me the purple fellows are planning on totally retooling this team. I say go for it, after last years disappointment, I think we need some new blood.

by papaspud on Mar 4, 2011 2:49 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

New blood(Rec'd)

New attitude. Build off the positives. Try to weed out some of the negatives blackeyes flops busts Chilly-players(all of the above) underperforming players on the team. Time to get a new vibe in that locker room and one that’s conducive to WINNING!!!! (can’t get Charlie’s echoing sadistic, crazed chanting out of my head, I’m think I’m coming down with CharlieSheen. Are there Dr.s for that yet?)

by DM_Purp on Mar 4, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes there are.

Charlie Sheen is in fact a warlock doctor. He will see you immediately.

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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 3:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It depends on the severity.

You will either be treated by his words, or, in a more severe case, by his fire-breathing fists.

Look at the bright side. At least Studwell won’t be staring at you.

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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes there are.

Charlie Sheen is in fact a warlock doctor. He will see you immediately.

Hail the Minnesota Vikings, ye mortals.
All other NFL fans are heretics.
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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 3:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's also an F-18, bro

And that includes naps

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by Ted Glover on Mar 4, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I've heard rumors...

that Charlie is Chuck Norris’ personal WINNING guru

Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga.

by SoDakHmr on Mar 5, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

PLAY QB....

You would think I could manage to proofread three words and two letters, no?

by stilpony on Mar 5, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of pay...

How about slipping some cash to Charlie to have the Vatican assassins go after our division rivals. Guarantees a playoff spot, right??

Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga.

by SoDakHmr on Mar 6, 2011 3:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Egads!

OK, newbie here- dunno why that happened. To the edit button, Batman!

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All other NFL fans are heretics.
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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

I said it before

no more premature hitting of the “edit” button EVER!!!!!!

New coach, new coaching staff, new starting QB. All we need now is a new stadium and all will be well in 2011.

by VikesFaninNM on Mar 4, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Faye Dunaway

is a great actress, but her role as Joan Crawford still makes my skin crawl almost as bad as the Exorcist does.

New coach, new coaching staff, new starting QB. All we need now is a new stadium and all will be well in 2011.

by VikesFaninNM on Mar 4, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

AHHHH!

Sorry sorry sorry!

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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

hehehehehehe

New coach, new coaching staff, new starting QB. All we need now is a new stadium and all will be well in 2011.

by VikesFaninNM on Mar 5, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

well I just have to say

I called it about three years ago. And finally I feel completely vindicated. Yes I’ve been preaching against the evil little leprechaun and his bucket of horse pucky for a while now, and while I won’t name names (LLV, BJORNO, Orlando etc…) and I’m WAY to mature to say I told you so (nyea nyea nyea) I would just like to bow my head and have a moment of silence. A shadow has passed from our storied franchise, a stain that has gradually destroyed our team while building hope. It is not up to us to wonder at the stupidity that has brought us to this place but to admire the courage it will take to continue forward.

I totally told you all this would happen!

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 4, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

LOL

You’re a class act, Grime. :P

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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you,

I thought so too, many people would have taken the lower road and rubbed this bit of victory into others faces.. Thank goodness I have class.

Seriously though TJ good luck to you, and honestly i’m with you on the idea of TJ being a third stringer for us as good God we went through all our QB’s last year. However, I think Frazier has to come out of this with a clean slate and honestly Childress’s slimey finger prints are heavily coating all things QB on this team.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 4, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

that’s the strongest reason for this move. Otherwise, TJack would certainly have SOME roster spot still available to him, considering our QB situation.

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All other NFL fans are heretics.
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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, I'm eating crow for supper.

I’m still amazed that last year this move wasn’t made if T-Jack really didn’t have the talent to be our QB. If we knew it then why are we still in a mess this much later?

But have to admit. All you T-Jack know it alls knew it all.

IT IS TIME TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO DRAFT A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK.
No more old guys. No more excuses. No more passing up our own great drafted quarterback.

by lifelongvike on Mar 4, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Grime's baaaaaaaaack

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

by NMVike on Mar 4, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry stopped taking my meds for a bit...

We’ll be back to the regular programming in a bit.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 4, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Take it from me bro

take those meds :-)

Yaaaaaaaaaah Hoooooooo! No more T-Jaz

Sorry kid. Not your fault. You did your best with too many high ex[ectations from an idiot.
I’ll give ya this. You handled it all like a man. Good luck. Just wasn’t workin here

AKA : Revenge4Webb

by CitrusFLViking on Mar 5, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

You're bringing tears to my eyes and joy to my heart, man!

Ding dong, the witch(chilly) is dead…..FINALLY!!!!! WINNING!!!!

by DM_Purp on Mar 4, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Im drunk...

but Im smug drunk, bro. we never wavered in our TJ assessment,

good riddance.

oh… and here’s an early welcome to Vince Young. write it down. skol

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Mar 4, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You may be right there AZ

Even if we draft a guy I don’t think the Vikings are ready to go with Webb without an experienced backup. Even if we draft a guy they will want a Vet.
IMO. You might get Palmer cheap now and Young definitly cheap. One of those two. Which means the Vikings will go with a QB round 1 or possibly 2
With young or Palmer you are hoping that a change of scenery willl instill mew life and enthusiam. If not, we better hope Webb learned alot or the draftee is a fast learner
Defimitely be interesting to see what happens

AKA : Revenge4Webb

by CitrusFLViking on Mar 5, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

ditto on the drunk and ditto on the smug

We started off few but we ended up many. I have it written down, but I did it on toilet paper.. I hope you can guess what happened next.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 5, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey Grime, I'm kinda insulted you left me out of the TJ supporters.

Actually, I don’t care. I wanted TJ to get his last chance one way or another and he failed the final exam in his last two starts so it’s time for a change. I wish the “precious” well but even I can admit that it’s time to move on. Unfortunately this leaves me with very few things to argue with you about Grime. Maybe I can start a Webb(paper), Mallet(rock), and Locker(scissors) fight or something. Without a QB or leprechaun debate I’m resigned to only agreeing with you about our crap O-line and shitty secondary. Ahh, I must admit I’m wrong for once so I’ll grab another whiskey and think about what kind of pie I’m gonna bake tomorrow : )

P.S. Now that both Chilly and TJack are gone at least half of your comedic insults are gone as well. I feel bad that your comedic repertoire is cut down to nuns, pickles, the french, stupid celebrities, and pie. Which current Viking are you planning on ripping next? Mckinnie’s too easy so I’m betting you come up with some creative Singletary pants jokes : )

by CanadianViking on Mar 5, 2011 3:09 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You know I have no idea how I left you off that list...

The good news is that your slowly learing I’m right all the time and agreeing with me 100% is the way to inner peace. I do agree with you though I’m starting to wonder what I’ll write on here, without Childress and TJ I’m pretty sure I’m going to be side lined for a bit.
I’ve been watching the Duke Tarheel game and must admit I have had a certain amount of liquid refreshment tonight so bear with me a bit. I would just like to say I laughed for about five minutes straight when I read this, and thanks it made my day (that and Duke losing)

Next Vike on the block will be Rice.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 5, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO there's nothing curious about it

TJack has nothing to offer the 2011 er, or 2012 Vikings (which ever comes first).

As you mentioned, he did have his moments in the sun. I know most people like to point out the game he had against Arizona, but my favorite TJack moment was the final 4 minutes of regulation in Denver during the 2007 season. (BTW, I intentially distinguished the final four minutes of regulation because TJack decided to go all, well TJack in overtime and fumble the ball on his own 10 yard line).

But at the end of the day, TJack is a bust. He was way too inconsistent, and even worse he is injury prone. The dude just could not stay healthy long enough to let you get up from your chair to get another beer from the mini fridge in your man-cave.

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

by NMVike on Mar 4, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely.

There was no chance he was our QBOTF, or that he was ever going to bring anything to the table. But as far as retaining at least a backup spot goes, I am a little surprised that Rhett Bomar seemingly received a vote of confidence over TJack. Again, though, there were undoubtedly many more scenarios behind this move than just that.

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All other NFL fans are heretics.
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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Your mancave

is about the be raided.

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All other NFL fans are heretics.
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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It's 2PM here but it's 5 somewhere right

"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."

by NMVike on Mar 4, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s five o’clock somwheeeere….

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by KJSegall on Mar 4, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Party at NM's Manhouse

Map quest the directions

AKA : Revenge4Webb

by CitrusFLViking on Mar 5, 2011 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I think keeping Bomar has more to do with what we KNOW in TJack.

Sometimes questions(Bomar) are better than answers(TJ). As in, we know what we got with him. Let’s move on. I like it.

by DM_Purp on Mar 4, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw Bomar doing something I never saw TJ do

that was shadow Favre on the sidelines. same with webb, he was always around brett talking, listening watching. TJ was always on a bench somewhere. even bomar’s 3wk stint with the vikes, you could see him on the sidelines in brett’s ear. TJ had a golden opportunity to learn from one of the best and he didn’t bother.

by FlFan on Mar 5, 2011 6:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes he can help

He can hold the clipboard. He can also let his supporter dream some more. As long as he does not see the field

by vikefansd on Mar 4, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Bomer has skills and a good head

Not saying he will be diamond inthe rough. He has the arm and football knowledge.
As I have said-he was never going to get a shot in NY. He had Manning to beat out? Yah, that would happen. Carr was a bonified bakup. Carr hets hurt. They grab Copter cause they didin’t want to throw Bomer in ice cold. Carr returns and Copter is in aand Bomer gets the practice roster (thinking no one will take him that late) Vikes have QBissues and grab a good prospect.
He is a prospect. But I don’t think we would do better on a young QB is we wait til after the 2nd round. Frazier likes the kid-see what happens
Just sayin" Ya never know 100-1 shot but he will be looked at

AKA : Revenge4Webb

by CitrusFLViking on Mar 5, 2011 1:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Webb and Bohmar

Don’t forget that both had promising college careers, albeit at small schools, and (In Bohmer’s case) a couple of question marks. Whereas, in TJack’s case (as was pointed out by DM_Purp) the questions had all been answered. I still hope we’re going to be looking at a vet for 3-5 years while Webb and/or Bohmar turn into the QBOTF. I really don’t want to take a chance on a draft QB, when we have two possibilities already in the stable.

I was an early supporter of TJack but yeah, it didn’t work. Thanks TJ, good luck.

Skol Vikings.

by LA Vikes Fan on Mar 4, 2011 5:35 PM CST reply actions  

So Long T-Jump The Eratic

Don’t let the door hit ya in the arse. Thanks for the 47 QB Rating against Philadelphia in your lone play-off game.

Favorite Charlie Sheen response of the week:

ABC: “Charlie, are you BiPolar?”
Charlie: “I’m Bi-winning.”

by Caretaker QB on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 AM CST reply actions  

So with tjack gone and possibly wild rice as well what would it take to get Chad henne and hometown boy Fitzgerald on the good side – now that I think about it I’m pretty sure it’s a possibilty let’s get it done
Qb line up :
Henne
Webb
Kaepernick
Wr line up :
Larry
Julio jones
P.Harv
Eric decker
Work your magic Charlie sheen

by Tswing on Mar 5, 2011 5:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I would take Decker in a heartbeat.

But Henne… I am having reservations about.

Too bad neither are likely to happen.

by Bjorno on Mar 5, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

My favorite Tarvaris memory...

… is when he came into the game and immediately performed The Knee Collision into Adrian Peterson.

by WilkesViking on Mar 5, 2011 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

That sir, puts doubt in my mind that ur a True Vikings fan.

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by UnBannedVikingholic on Mar 5, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Just saying, one of the worst moments shouldn't be your favorite memory

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by UnBannedVikingholic on Mar 5, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You do understand...

…that I am being facetious when I say ‘favorite’, right? That moment merely illustrated in a nutshell Tarvaris’s ineptitude, and now that his biggest supporter (see Childress, Brad) is no longer around to insist Jackson be part of the Vikings roster, maybe the quarterback position will now be treated with the seriousness that it deserves this off-season. I’m thinking maybe Carson Palmer. Hell, I don’t know. Certainly not Vince Young.

by WilkesViking on Mar 5, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I lol'd

You just made me snicker. I lol’d at the tv when that happened. Man, that 2010 Vikings cake had more icing on it than it had cake!

by cyberuck on Mar 5, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty damned funny after the fact.

I was excited for Tjack to get his last chance and was hoping with all the help he had around him that he would excel.

Then that happened. I could not believe my eyes.

by Bjorno on Mar 5, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

It was funny after the fact, and it will be one of my favorite TJ moments since it was the moment that finally underscored, circled and highlighted that it was time to move on.

by KC Viking on Mar 6, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Looking at that picture...

It seems Tjack has a bit of a lazy-eye…

by Bjorno on Mar 5, 2011 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

TJack should try out in Philly

Like a poor man’s Michael Vick. TJack is at his best when he’s rolling right with a single receiver down field. Let him back up Vick in Philly, and they sell Kolb for a 1st rounder. He may not ever be a starter, but he can be a good backup in the right system.

by jimbo55403 on Mar 6, 2011 12:43 AM CST reply actions  

Are you an idiot?

Handing off to a running back doesn’t take lots of training? Try it.

"He didn’t call me or anything. It was an accident, but a lot of people would have called to see how someone is doing after they got hit in the head. Especially if they had to go on the DL." — Morneau on pitcher Ron Villone after an April 2005 beaning.

by Gonzo2 on Mar 6, 2011 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

Nope.

At least I don’t think I am. Anyways, I wasn’t talking about you or I doing the handoffs. Pretty sure 99% of any QB who’s been let into the NFL can learn a handoff system. They really don’t vary that much from team to team.

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by KJSegall on Mar 7, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

proof of the 5yr train of thought

If you draft a qbotf & he flops it sets your team back for 5years. You draft them it takes them 1&1/2-2 seasons to get ready to be the man. If he’s not ready in year 3 you bring in a gunslinger to teach/replace him for a season & draft all over. Guess where we are? Actually a year late on drafting our QBOTF, unless Webb surprises us. So to T-joke I say what I said of your supporter Mr. Noodle. BUH-BYE!!!

L. A. Player

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