Video| McShay on Ponder & Someone's Jealousy Shows

I have no idea why, every time he is in a discussion involving the vikes it is always bull flying out of his mouth.
I can literally see the shit spray out of his mouth when he talks. Never liked the guy to begin with.

because we passed on Pouncey and Fairly

Not thrilled with the pick of Ponder but it’s more about the place we picked him then the player himself for me.

Here is part of the scouting report on Ponder from espn …

Intelligence/Decision Making 3 At his best when he can make a pre-snap read, make his 3-5-7 step drop, and get the ball out quickly. Like the tempo of his game and the urgency in which he plays. Has very good intelligence and can pick absorb adjustments faster than most. But has room to improve as an overall decision maker. He telegraphs too many of his throws, especially on vertical routes. Struggles at times when his primary target is covered. He takes too many chances and tries to force too many throws. Needs to learn when to call it quits and play for another down.

It kind of matches what Dilfer said about the one tempo 7 on 7 speed.

But this is the biggest one for me …

Durability 5 Durability is a significant concern. Lacks ideal size and has had trouble staying healthy. Missed final four games in 2009 due to right shoulder injury. In 2010, he suffered a triceps contusion versus Oklahoma and re-aggravated it versus BYU. Then he suffered a ruptured right bursa sac against Boston College. Did not play versus Clemson. Had it drained following the Florida game and did not play in ACC championship vs. Virginia Tech. Underwent two procedures in December. Also suffered a concussion vs. South Carolina in Chick-fil-A Bowl.
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Here is part of the scouting report from cbssports.com …

Reading Defenses: Some legitimate concerns in this area. Has to do a better job of looking off the defender, as he has a tendency to stare-down his primary target. Doesn’t always feel the pressure coming when he makes his progressions, especially if his primary target is unexpectedly covered up. Made some critical mistakes late in games throughout his career, including several times in 2010.

Durability concern. Missed the final three games of the 2009 season with a grade-3 separation of his throwing shoulder and suffered more injuries to this throwing arm (including undergoing two surgeries on his elbow) in 2010.

Compares to: Tony Romo, Cowboys - Like Romo (undrafted), Ponder’s lack of ideal size and struggles with durability are enough to push him down the board. But his arm strength, accuracy, mobility and intelligence could make him a very effective pro quarterback if he can improve in critical situations.
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I do not mind negative criticism of a prospect the Vikings picked. I do not think Dilfer gains anything by giving his opinion and he knows what to look for and what he sees when he watches QBs. And the other report mirrors what Dilfer said.

I do not understand why people get upset with this. All of these QBs have areas to improve. This is one with Ponder. So what? Nobody expected a Pro Bowl QB right out of college. It may take him a few years maybe close to 4 or 5. It should be worth it.

IF, and this is the biggest concern of mine, he can stay healthy.

and to say he cant battle through pressure is ridiculous. How bout having to be the QB to lead FSU out of the bowden era. How much pressure is on you to win games? Ponder handled it maturely and is a competitor, you guys are getting a great player, kid, and leader.

These guys are paid to be opinionated and to express themselves. Even though I agree that Dilfer always seems to have a negative opinion when talking about the Vikes, he is knowledgeable and is a much better analyst than he was a QB.

I question the comments about him always staring down his receivers. I certainly haven’t watched as much film as the analysts, but from what I’ve watched he intially is very good at pre-snap reads. After snap I frequently thought he was staring down his guy, but after replays it looked to me like he would look at an underneath route and throw over, or look inside then throw out, or vice versa either way. It isn’t enough to keep a safety from that side of the field, but it is effective in keeping those gaps open in zone coverage. His anticipation looks excellent to me. One thing I rarely saw him do was look to one side of the field then look/throw the other way. He will definitely need to develop those skills to be the QB we need him to be.

Does Ponder have the right character? Fraiser says yes.
Dilfer can stuff his pie hole.

someone pointed this out in another discussion at one point, but i think it’s worth repeating:

He has to play at the 7-on-7 tempo. The drop has to be rhythmical. The receivers have to be open. The ball goes one speed. The pocket has to be nice. Any time he’s asked to quicken that up or there’s people around him, his accuracy is awful … Christian Ponder tests off the charts. He’s in shorts and a t-shirt. He goes to his pro workout, he’s in shorts and a t-shirt. His big pecs are hanging out. He’s got big guns. He looks great. He’s a good-looking young man and he spins that ball around the football field in a perfect environment and people go ‘wow he can play.’"

Dilfer on Bradford, last year:

“Bradford is a talented guy … I understand why the perception has become what it is — because he looks good in shorts. But that is the way he has played football, too. He has played in a 7-on-7 environment, not an 11-on-11 environment.”

considering Bradford nearly took a 1-15 team to the playoffs, i hope Dilfer’s analysis is just as ‘spot-on’ for the Vikes in 2011.

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And then maybe he can improve his analysis by having a nice drink before the camera starts rolling;