Preview of Vikings Free Agents
Now that it looks like the lockout might finally end in a week or two, it's time to take a look at something that should have happened around 100 days ago....Free Agency. The current news regarding the new CBA is that players will become unrestricted free agents after being in the league for 4 years. This change will make for a much larger pool of free agents. The rumor going around is if a new CBA is agreed on soon, the league year (and free agency) will start on July 15, allowing the free agents to be signed before training camps begin. A quick Google search led me to this list of free agents for the Vikings. I'm going to go through some of the major names on this list, and rate their value to the team, as well as their chances of being signed on a scale of 0-5 with 5 obviously being the highest.
The problem with Ray Edwards is that he is a good defensive end. He's not "great" like Allen, but it's not like he sucks either. Compounding this problem is that he wants "great" defensive end money and, unfortunately for the Vikings, there appear to be some teams (the Falcons) that may willing to pay him what he wants.
Statistically he has been decent the last two seasons with 8.5 sacks in 2009 and 8 in 2010. But with Jared Allen getting double teamed, and the Williams wall wrecking havoc in the middle, Edwards might just be benefiting from teams putting more effort into blocking the rest of the players on the Vikings defensive line than him.
I really don't see the Vikings being willing to overpay to keep Edwards, we have some young players on our team who should be more than capable of putting up numbers similar to Edwards as they will be put into a good position to succeed.
Value to the Vikings 2.5/5
Chance of re-signing 1/5
Sidney Rice (WR)
After two season of pretty much not doing anything notable, Rice had a breakout year with Favre. Some people think it's hard to tell whether it was Favre that made Rice good, or Rice that made Favre good,but I think this video clip settles it.
Sidney Rice Highlights (via AdrianPeterson28lm)
They're both good, but if their is one player the Vikings absolutely need to sign, its Sidney rice. If we lose him our receiving group goes from good to well, not so good. He is the kind of receiver that you can just lob it to regardless of how "open" he appears to be and chances are he come down with the catch. If Ponder is going to have any chance at a good rookie season, we need to keep Rice.
Rice's injury and surgery last season might be a blessing in disguise. Yeah, it made us waste a third rounder for Moss and was one of the reasons the 2010 season was a total disaster, but it also might make it easier for the Vikings to re-sign him. A few days ago Chris wrote about how other teams were concerned about Rice's injury and would not be as willing to sign him to a big contract. Since there will be less teams going after him, it will give the Vikings a better chance at being to retain him.
Signing Rice should be the Vikings top priority once the free agency feeding frenzy begins. Whoever is QB for the Vikings this season is going to need all the help he can get. Rice is the best receiver on our roster and letting him go would deal a big blow to our chances of getting back to the top of our division. If the Vikings are serious about becoming contenders again, they shouldn't just "match" offers for Rice. They need to offer him a better contract than what any of the other teams trying to sign him are willing to give.
Value to the Vikings 5/5
Chance of Re-signing 3.5/5
After leaving the dark side of the force Packers in 2006 and coming to join the Vikings, he has been one of our most reliable players. However, he is a kicker and unlike money and HoF QBs, kickers just might grow on trees. Longwell has the 7th best field goal percentage of all active players, which makes it seem at first to be completely obvious that we should keep him. The difference between Longwell's field goal percentage and the 32nd best player's is 5.5%. However, this really isn't much of a difference. If a player kicks around 18-25 field goals a season. 5.5% is only one field goal a season. So the worst starting kicker in the league on average will miss one, maybe two more field goals than Longwell.
The second part of kicking is kickoffs and the fact is that the Longwell just doesn't send them very far. Longwell ranked 30th last season for both kicking distance with an average of 62.3 yards and touch backs with 3. Not very good at all. Even with the kickoff spot being moved from the 30 yardline to the 35 yardline, the touchbacks are not likely to be a more common occurrence for Longwell as he still averages below the 65 yards that will be needed for one. And of course shorter kickoffs equals a shorter distance to the goal line for opposing teams, which lead to them scoring more, which for obvious reasons is something we'd like to avoid.
Given that Longwell's higher accuracy only accounts for an extra 3-9 points a season. It would almost make sense to pick up another kicker who could give our special teams a big break. That said, chances are that we do re-sign him as it isn't like he is going to be asking for a gigantic contract, and like they considered last year, the Vikings could possibly bring a kick-off specialist. Only this time they should try and find one that can, you know, actually get touchbacks.
Value to the Vikings 2/5
Chance of re-signing 4/5
He has been a solid half of the Williams wall for the last 6 seasons, but unfortunately his time with the Vikings and the NFL may be nearing its end. An article from profootballtalk quotes Williams as saying his odds of coming back to the Vikings are 50-50. Williams also said that he was able to talk to Leslie Frazier during the short time the lockout had stopped and he was told that he is still part of the Vikings plans. Though our run defense wasn't quite as good in 2010 as it had been in previous years, it still was one of the Vikings strengths. Keeping Williams for another season or two would give the guys next in line another year to develop. If he wants to play, I think he will end up with the Vikings. I can't imagine that there would be many other teams in the market for a 38 year old defensive tackle.
Value to the Vikings 3/5
Chance of re-signing 2.5/5 (I think its higher, but I'll go with what he said)
Leber has been with the Vikings since 2006 and though he has been a solid player at outside linebacker it's becoming clear that at age 30 he is on the decline. Last season was the first year he failed to record as sack and he had only 46 tackles which is tied for the second lowest total in his career. Chad Greenway is quoted in profootballtalk as saying he thinks that Leber will not be with the Vikings next season.
Value to the Vikings 2/5
Chance of Re-signing 1/5
Chad Greenway is also a free agent, but the Vikings placed a franchise tag on him so he won't be going anywhere anytime soon. There is a 99.9% that the new CBA will still allow for franchise tags so there is nothing to worry about. The Vikings front office will have some tough decisions to make in the future regarding these players; vote in the poll for which player you think should be their first priority to sign.
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Longwell voted for himself? I’ve sometimes wondered if any Vikungs players have ever stumbled across this site.
by VikingsForever on Jun 23, 2011 11:24 PM CDT reply actions
I'll bet you they have.
I’m pretty certain that Kluwe is aware of it, as someone did a Twitter interview with him at one point. I’d be willing to wager that many Viking are aware of the DN.
They know about SB nation...
The Bears site even has fairly regular articles written by their Safety Chris Harris… It would be nice if some of the Vikes got involved with this site in a similar manner.
Harris used to write down on the cat scratch reader when he was playing in Carolina as well.
interesting guy.
Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!
Ryan Longwell
is one fo the most accurate kickers in the NFL, and with 2 young QBs competing for a starting job there will be a lot more FGs then TDs. We can always sign Rhys Lloyd to do kickoffs. As for Pat Williams, he is far over the hill and I hope he doesn’t come back. We have to much young talent on that D-line to have to wait for Williams to piss around and get False starts because thats all he pretty much did last year. Besides, I doubt the Vikings are going to resign a guy who has a 4 game suspension.
"If I can't get to it, nobody can't get to it" - Randy Moss #84
by Ihatethefudgepackers on Jun 24, 2011 1:00 AM CDT reply actions
I think he meant offsides, defense cant get false starts.
by VikingsForever on Jun 24, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason...
I wondered that if Tom Brady were to punch himself in the face, would he get a roughing the passer penalty on himself?
by Jepp The Viking on Jun 24, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't there such a thing?
When the DLman causes the OLman to flinch?
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on - Winston Churchill
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jun 26, 2011 12:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol, ; ( and let me throw this across my body through the Saints cornerbacks
no Brett, Sidney goes over people not through them : (
Don't worry this year it will be Ponder throwing bombs.
Here’s to hoping Rice is still around to catch them. Problem with Rice is really how much do you think we should spend on him and how much do you think is to much. I would give him an incentive laden contract with low garuntee money, but incentives easy enough to hit to make him a wealthy man make it a two year contract and then when it was done and we see if he can stay healthy toss him the big bone.
I just don’t think we should break the bank on Rice.
Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!
I voted for Longwell
not because I think he’s more valuable than Sidney but because I knew everyone else would vote Rice and great kickers are seriously underated. Longwell is awsome I love that guy almost as much as Kluwe. Resign Rice and Longwell and forget the rest.
by FFXVIKE on Jun 24, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
I’m the second guy who voted for Longwell.
Someone’s got to kick the damned field goals, and booters like Longwell aren’t easily fould.
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YES AGREED
Kickers like longwell arn’t easy to find. We still need to sign Rice though.
by Gjallarhorn on Jun 24, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Love me "that's just what he does" Longwell.
Seems to be a pretty decent guy, a proven veteran, and is guy who you can just simply count on. But what type of money might he command? In a season in which we are not exactly in rebuilding mode but do have a lot of new staff, I wonder if it might be the right time to part ways and look for a “KOTF”. There’s got to be some stronger legged younger talent out there that wouldn’t command the price tag. It’s an important decision obviously.
I don't see teams "developing" kickers
When they need one they just go out and get one. Don’t think the _OTF applies to kickers.
I was just rather using the term as a moniker
but you are right about that. I can’t remember who but there are a couple of college guys out there who handle both the kicking and punting duties who sounded a tad interesting.
Agreed
…and thus I was the first vote cast in that direction. Felt lonely there was a while.
I think we’ll get Longwell for a reasonable price. Rice is represented by Drew Rosenhaus which means he’ll demand money far in excess of his ability to stay healthy and put up numbers.
Nice post
I dont think Losing Edwards is a big deal as he has flatly stated he wont play for the Vikes.
Rice I have conflicts with,the surgery was timed wrong and I have to wonder if he can repeat 2009 stats,I am willing watch him test market.
Ryan Longwell Mr. money I think we need to resign him to a contract.
Phat Pat love me some Williams wall and would love see him back on running downs this year.
Ben Leber I think this guy is worth a 2 yr contract
Chad is going to be around.
Ray Edwards gets a 0?
Wow. That’s sad.
133 total votes at this moment and Edwards can’t get a sliver of love. Even Longwell got more love than him.
Was he really that bad? I mean, I think Rice is far superior, but NOBODY else wants Ray?
Yeah, the voting suprised me a bit too, I figured that Rice would get the majority, but I thought the other guys would be getting some votes too.
by VikingsForever on Jun 27, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Ray is not bad...
He is just not great.
We have plenty of young talent behind him, and with Jared Allen and the Williams brothers drawing all the attention, he did not perform all that well. I don’t recall him being a big pressure guy, and his sacks tended to come in situations where the defense completely forgot about him rather than him breaking off a block.
Add to that the fact that he is expecting a huge payday, and has stated MULTIPLE times on many different occasions that he does not want to return to Minny, and no wonder nobody voted for him.
This is why I wanted to trade him BEFORE the 2010 Draft!
I felt back then that they were not going to pay him what he is worth which is slightly above average pay. I think 4 year 30 mil is about right when you consider that Kampman and Vanden Bosch signed 4 year 26 mil deals in 2010.
Now he is going to leave for nothing in return.
Add in the fact that according to Spielman, Maurkrice Pouncey was the Vikings top target in 2010 and it is crazy that the Vikings did not use him to move up in that draft.
As I had stated in one of my scenarios, Tennessee was a prime candidate to trade. Why? They had no 2nd round pick and they needed a DE. I feel pretty confident that they would have been fools to pass up a trade of the Vikings #30 pick AND Ray Edwards for their #16 pick. Maybe the Vikings could have squeezed a 4th rounder out of them too (maybe a 2011).
I think they dropped the ball on this because it is unlikely they get a compensatory pick in return.
by MarkSP18 on Jul 2, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i voted Longwell
you could only pick one. That doesn’t mean i don’t want to sign the others. But you can count on Longwell – like money in the bank. He’s a very dependable kicker.
Yep Longwell
Gotta have a guy who wont choke…and he is it…by the way we all know Longwell makes that kick Gary!

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