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Packers will dominate in 2011

WOW!

No team has even shown up and that's the league wide consensus. The media, who has been so desperate for something to write about has created topics like "which teams will dominate from 2014-2016" and even "the dream team of 2014" and yes, rumors of a certain QB.

But the most outlandish article of all- "The Packers will dominate 2011"
 
What upsets me about this article? Not that I'm a Vikings fan, Not that I'm an anti-Packer enthusiasts, its the word dominate. A brief google of the word turned up:
 
Dominate- Rule, Control, to exert a supreme determining or guiding influence upon
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dominate
 
Really? Dominate- no football team has dominated since the 16-0 Pats, and they didn't win the Super bowl. What happened to the unwritten rule that the media was supposed to be impartial? All I see and read is the superiority of the Packers. The NFL is made for NO team to Dominate, as long as they don't video tape the other teams plays and relay them to Tom Brady.
 
Its an extremely bold statement to say that the Packers will dominate in 2011 because they certainly did not dominate in 2010. Here is the evidence:
 
1. Injuries- The past few years the Packers have been riddled with injuries. I can say with confidence that it will happen again. Every team is 1 injury away form being average, and it can certainly happen to a group that is injury prone.
 
2. Cap room- As of now the Pack is over the cap (alleged cap). So how do they "get better" by cutting guys that deserve the money?
 
3. Long season- They played 3 or 4 more games than many of the teams. They are coming off of injuries. Its tough to play a 20 game season and then play another 20 game season.
 
4. Aaron Rodgers- Troy Aikmen part 2. I believe he has had at least 3 known so far, and once you get them, they only come easier. If they don't improve their line or limit his running he'll likely get a 4th and maybe a 5th. Troy Aikman had 10, but Rodgers is young. They add up quick.   
Also, He’s a record mogul now. He doesn’t need football. He’ll quit and sign the Lady GaGa’s and Katy Perry’s of the world. But hey, maybe Favre will come back as a Packer?
 
5. They didn't dominate in 2010- The Packers had so many breaks, given to them by outside sources, that enabled them to make it to the Super bowl.
 
Clay Matthews- Very overrated player. Yeah he had 13.5 sacks, but Allen had 11 and got off to a slow start. The numbers: 60 total tackles, 54 solo and 6 combined. All together that 3.75 per game, or only 3.3 solo tackles per game. Not even 1 per quarter. Far from Dominant. Even if Matthews is a “QB rusher” he should still be able to get the RB on a play action or something. What was he doing the rest of the plays, those that he took off?
 
First, the wild card race: One play gave them the wild card seat. The refs blown call on the Shiancoe touchdown. The call was obviously a TD, which was stated by the TV analysts working the game, yet the ref calls it a dropped pass. The catch was ruled a TD I believe (not 100% on this and could be wrong). Which would mean that their needs to be compelling evidence to show it as otherwise. At best there was no showing of any ball movement, nor any solid indicator of it ever hitting the ground.
 

The Packers win

by 4, by the end of the season they are at 10-6. In my opinion they were 1 terribly biased call away from 9-7, which would have landed them out of the wild card and no play-off appearance.
 
Second, Da Bears had two opportunities and they gave them both away. They played a terrible game against them to end the season and lost. I guess it doesn't pay to play conservative even if you have the first round bye locked down. Then in the play-off game, what’s the deal with Jay Cutler? He hurts his knee but doesn't know on which play. He's was too hurt to play, but not hurt enough to change out of his uniform or even SIT on the bench. He STOOD the whole game. Question, does anyone know the deal on this? Did he have surgery? Did they even name the type of injury he had? Im glad I don't have to put my Super bowl hopes on the biggest whimp in the league.
 
I didn't write this for Vikings fans, I wrote this for Packer fans who have nothing better to do than to read Vikings blogs and comment as if they are superior beings. I bated you in with the title, and now you've read enough to get upset... Comment away- I want to know how the Pack nation feels about this.
 
P.S. By saying: "How many super bowls has your team won?" It shows your limited football knowledge and your inability to move forward. Stop living in the past. 

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I didn’t write this for Vikings fans, I wrote this for Packer fans who have nothing better to do than to read Vikings blogs and comment as if they are superior beings. I bated you in with the title, and now you’ve read enough to get upset… Comment away- I want to know how the Pack nation feels about this.

Damn you… You got me.

'I was the guy who took all the reps in the offseason, Brett was the one who took all the reps during the season.' - Aaron Rodgers

by arodgb on Jul 20, 2011 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

AHA!!

Now you can….uh, pfft I don’t know, enjoy your time here :)

Roberto Luongo + Game 7 Stanley Cup Final= LOLFAIL

by NorthernStar on Jul 20, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Concur

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by Christopher Gates on Jul 21, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

We have a second...

All in favor, say ‘AYE’

I BELIEVE...

by ArizonaVikingsFan on Jul 21, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is that you Wiedmann?

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I meant to say Strohman.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I apologize.

Is the Strohman shot enough to make up for it?

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I apologize again.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand, and didn't say that very well.

I threw out your name because I saw you had commented here. Then when you called me out on it I tried to back track and make it up to you by tossing in a Strhman shot.

See! I didn’t even spell his name right!

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 25, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aye!!

btw danny, i hear that packer chic in your picture has “above average looks” in the green bay area

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by Admiral BigGun on Jul 21, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a man or a hefty woman?

I can’t really tell with those pasties on.

by kcskol on Jul 21, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

"pasties", see i knew there was a technical term for it...

but yahoo! won’t let me search for it.

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by danny lloyd on Jul 23, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cali viking on Jul 21, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dont bring Troy into this....

He had so many concusions he doesnt even remember 1 of the 3 Super Bowls he played in.
Oh and I hate to even see his name mentioned with Erin (again shamelessly stolen)

**Rupert for ProBowl 2012!**

by LeeleeX on Jul 21, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I have no doubt Green Bay will be in the top 32 teams this season

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 21, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

????

You can dominate when you are behind? Well That’s a creative way to look at it. (snicker)

btw. .I TOTALLY DOMINATE everyone on this site with my striking good looks. :-)

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by Admiral BigGun on Jul 21, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Were they perfect? No.

Did they dominate? Yes. Never trailing by more than a TD is impressive.

13.

by Wiedmann on Jul 21, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO ITS NOT NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!

by cali viking on Jul 21, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's quite possible for a team to go 0-16

While never trailing by more than a TD. Is that domination?

by Mebera on Jul 21, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possible, but unlikely

It’s possible for a team to make the playoffs going 0-10-6, it just doesn’t happen. Doing something that hasn’t been done since 1962, and then going on to win the SB is impressive.

13.

by Wiedmann on Jul 23, 2011 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now I'm watching the NFC West next year

In the hopes that one of those teams goes 0-10-6, wins the division, and makes the playoffs.

What would be particularly funny is if their first win of the year came against the Packers in the playoffs.

by Mebera on Jul 23, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Actually, every team in the division would have to go 0-10-6

with the 6 ties being in their division games. Then, it would come down to tiebreakers (probably point differential in conference games or something like that). Either way, it’s highly unlikely that would happen, and there would be no way the Packers would lose to that team.

13.

by Wiedmann on Jul 24, 2011 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have to remember

that this is the NFL, where anything can happen, particularly in the playoffs.

After all, last year, nobody in their right minds predicted the Seahawks beating the Saints.

by Mebera on Jul 24, 2011 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

7-9 is a long way from 0-10-6

but, point taken. Any given Sunday.

13.

by Wiedmann on Jul 24, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird

Kind of a weird stat. One of those you would never believe. Also one of those almost doesn’t matter stats that I actually don’t give it that much credo because teams have gone 15-1 and 16-0 and coming back from more than 7 down to obtain a record like that is what I would call impressive.

Have to disagree on this one. 10-6 and never more than 7 down just doesn’t ickle my nipple sticker. Sorry dude!

by PurpleJesus on Jul 21, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green Bay is going to be pretty damn good that is for sure

Whether or not they dominate is another story. They did not dominate last year and they experienced more than their fair share of injuries. Maybe this year they have less injuries?

Their offense is going to be crazy good. They are getting Finley back and they added Randall Cobb too.

The Vikings will definitely have a very hard time stopping them just like last year.

It feels like it is going to be a long year boys. I will know better how I feel once free agency is over.

by MarkSP18 on Jul 21, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Could somebody please give me a call

When Jermichael Finley actually does something to justify the ridiculous amount of hype he receives?

1,000 receiving yards and 7 touchdowns in three seasons in the NFL doesn’t exactly scream “Ooooooooh, scary.” Christ, Shiancoe had more touchdowns in 2009 alone than Finley has in three seasons.

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by Christopher Gates on Jul 21, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody has said he's had a great career.

And the injuries could continue to be a serious problem. If he can’t stay on the field he’ll never be able to justify the hype. but if he can get on the field and stay there, look out. I know you hate the Packers, but just take a look at what that guy is capable of. Complete mismatch for anyone trying to cover him. He was putting up huge numbers before the injury, and hge had basically become Rodgers’s go-to guy. And thats with one of the best receiving groups in the league to compete for targets with.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

his point is that finley is consistently listed as one of the top te’s in the league even though he really hasn’t done much.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

And my point is he is one of the top TEs in the league when he's on the field.

He hasn’t played enough to really be ehaed of the likes of Gates, Witten, etc., but talent-wise he is definitely right there.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

they don’t put guys in the hall of fame for talent. they put em in for production. how many more years before his production equals his talent potential?

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

This year if he can stay healthy.

Look at his numbers before he got hurt. It’s not a case of him not playing up to his talent. It’s a case if him not being able to play. This was just his 3rd year anyway. He still has plenty of time to prove himself.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

i applaud your defense of the guys on your team but all your responses (you and others) include some form of ‘if he can stay healthy’. that just doesn’t get it done. a player either produces or he doesn’t. finley hasn’t. you can go on and on about how much potential he has or how athletic he is or how productive he was in a given game or three but elite players produce. i’m not going to sit here and say sidney rice is an elite receiver. he could be, but he isn’t. he has all the talent to be, but he isn’t. he’s had 4 yrs in the league and had one really good year, arguably better than finley’s best year (arguably b/c it’s a te vs wr comparison), but he isn’t. when he strings together a few years and stays healthy he might be, but he isn’t. and neither is finley.

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we want to go on talent

Then I can confidently declare Kyle Rudolph to be every bit the TE Finley is.

It’s hard to make an impact while you’re on crutches, though.

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by Christopher Gates on Jul 21, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah its pretty much

just injuries that have derailed him. Being completely subjective, watch him in game. You’ll see why people are saying he’ll be good. He’s like a bigger Vernon Davis, more or less.

by Frost on Jul 21, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’ve got a fair point on injuries but have you ever seen him play? There’s a reason there’s been a ton of hype surrounding him, and it’s because he’s produced every time he’s been on the field.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really hoping we get some line help a safety and maybe a corner back

our defense is starting to worry me and that’s been our strong suite for a long long time…

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 21, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

More counter-points:

Injuries have already been discussed by my fellow Packer fans above. I too believe the Pack won’t be hit that hard again. 15 players on IR is ridiculous. But even without those guys the team won the Super Bowl, so they know how to deal with injuries and missing guys.

Again, Packers3485 already discussed the cap room better than I could. I’ll also throw in Brady Poppinga as a guy about to get cut. IIRC that’s like $2 mil or so, in addition to what was said above.

I don’t think the long season will matter all that much. The players have had plenty of down time since the SB with this stupid lockout. And quite a few starters did not take part in that long season, so those guys should be fresh as long as they come back healthy.

Rodgers’s concussions are a legitimate point, but I’m not too terribly frightened. The OL is much better than it was 2 years ago, and it should be even better with Bulaga getting more experience. I’d fear more for our RBs getting hit than our QB at this point.

So many breaks? Are you talking about the Bears? That was a bad call. But to say that call is the only reason they made the playoffs is reaching just a little bit. Like Wiedmann said, they were in every single game. If anything, they had breaks go the other way. A missed kick or 2 by Crosby cost us games. The injuries hurt a lot.

If you want to look at the CHI games, the first one was the real fluke. 18 penalties? When is that going to happen again? And if you were watching that NFCCG, it’s not like they were doing so well with Cutler. Heck, knocking him out probably gave them a better shot because Hanie played pretty well.

I think a little too much is made of the word choice of "dominate" that ESPN used. That is just for page views. What they were essentially doing was just voting on who they think the best team will be next year/3 years from now, and then saying since that team would supposedly be the best, they’d obviously have the best chance to "dominate."

I think you’d be hard pressed to find too many Packers fans who assume we are going to "dominate" the league. Confident in our chances to do very well? Definitely. But "dominate" is too strong a word for that.

I completely agree with Packers3485 here. Well said. Nobody is expecting an undefeated season.

But when you consider what we did last year, the players we have coming back, the extreme depth we’ve built up, the only reason not to think the Pack can do it again is either complacency or bad luck. Also consider all but 1 starter will likely be back and none of the rookies will be counted on to play a big role (outside of Cobb returning kicks), the team is set up a lot better than many others coming out of the lock-out.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Also consider all but 1 starter will likely be back and none of the rookies will be counted on to play a big role (outside of Cobb returning kicks), the team is set up a lot better than many others coming out of the lock-out.

[into next season]

That sounds oddly familiar… but I can’t quite put my finger on it… :P

by nectur on Jul 21, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol ah it still hurts!

There team is fundamentally younger, and I’m pretty sure their star receiver isn’t going to come into camp already injured.

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 21, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

P.S. By saying: “How many super bowls has your team won?” It shows your limited football knowledge and your inability to move forward. Stop living in the past.

Oh, and considering next year has yet to begin (curse this lockout!), would it really be living in the past? ;-)

As soon as next year starts, I’ll get ready for the repeat. As for now, I’m still celebrating.

BTW, is it just me or is the coverage of the negotiations nothing but a huge tease?

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 21, 2011 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I call it bandwagon effect

Remember how great the saints were supposed to be? Sure they made the playoffs, but they couldnt beat the seahawks. The pundits love certain teams and when they do well enough they wont stop talking about them. Sadly the packers are one of those teams.

Now im not arguing that the vikings will win the division, as I think we’ll fall short this year. I think the bears were bigger imposters than the packers and the lions are a year short yet. Remember the pack turned it on during the last half or so of the season. Being a WI resident (sad I know) I watched nearly all the games (I hate having packer friends) and can say they certainly didnt dominate until the playoffs.

by redhearring on Jul 21, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

And its not just pundit love

Those are facts right there. Its hard to ignore them once you take off purple shades.

by Frost on Jul 21, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow,

excellent recap.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said. We were fortunate to make it to the playoffs but we certainly weren’t fortunate to win the Super Bowl.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 22, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was a fluke they made the playoffs

they certainly dominated when they got there, im just saying, before post season they werent that great at all, in fact, they lost to detroit, washington, bears, etc

by redhearring on Jul 22, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

We lost to the Lions because A-rod got concussed, Washington was a fluke win for them (Check out the PFF statistics for the game), Bears we had 17 penalties. Remember, if Calvin Johnson can hold onto his touchdown for two more seconds in week one, the Bears lose the division and fail to reach the playoffs.. I can argue it was just as big of a fluke that the Bears made the playoffs. Just like I can argue it was a fluke the Saints made the Super Bowl in 2009. Whatever.

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by arodgb on Jul 22, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree,

It was a fluke to see the Sea hawks in the PO’s.
It was an even bigger fluke when the Sea hawks beat the Saints.

I wasn’t at all surprised to see the Packers in the PO’s……They’re a good football team, with a great QB. I won’t be too surprised if I see them in the PO’s next year too!

by chaosg on Jul 23, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they scraped by

to get into the playoffs. But they had a TON of close games too. If I remember right, in their 6 losses, they lost by something like less than 6 points each game. They easily could have got 16-0 like the Patriots with a few extra breaks. That’s just an extra TD in those games. Which is entirely possible with an offensive as explosive as their’s. So it isn’t like they backed into the playoffs. They were in each and every game they played.

 Plus at least 2 or 3 of those 6 losses were in OT. I think they went 2 weeks in a row with back-to-back OT losses. We all know how much of a coinflip that practically is. So they had some good breaks, but they had their share of bad breaks too. You just can’t really take much away from them last year. They just flat out destroyed the league.

by Frost on Jul 23, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

With Matthews getting hurt in the 1st OT loss, and then not playing at all in the 2nd OT loss. That hurt the defense a lot. And then there’s the Lions game where Rodgers got hurt and the Pats game too. Not too make excuses but if those two play in those games, the outcomes would probably be different imo.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 23, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

that Patriot game is the perfect example. If it had been Rodgers in there instead of a player getting his first start, you know they’d be able to run the plays off in time to get that TD. He’s been in that exact situation before and made it work.

by Frost on Jul 23, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was

pretty freaking good. Nice article.

by PurplePrideforLife! on Jul 21, 2011 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

FIRE UP VIKING FANS

THE NFC NORTH FAN FAVORITES RB EDITION is up and running, come get your voice herd over at the Pride of Detroit. Grime bring your friends cause I expect this to be the most voted on edition of all the fan FAVORITES.

How many lumps you want Doc?

by davis0169 on Jul 21, 2011 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

going for Herschel Walker this time...

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 22, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Giving credit where credit is due

The Packers defense is very good and their quarterback is very good. In fact, if I could take one QB in the league right now, he’d be the guy. That combination will be tough to beat. I have no idea if they will be dominant, but they will be tough — possibly Payton/Colts tough but with a good D. YIKES!!!

by kcskol on Jul 21, 2011 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Clay

i never really minded Matthews (aside from the typical distaste for him being a Packer) until he took his helmet off mid-play against the Vikes…i found that not only disrespectful, but careless and immature. and he wasn’t even penalized for it, and as far as i know he wasn’t even fined. what a joke.

(for anyone who doesn’t remember, that was also the game where Shiancoe’s TD was incorrectly reversed, and GB’s non-TD was counted. worst officiated game i’ve ever seen…talk about ‘home cooking’.)

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

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by rj-b on Jul 22, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

i was at that game

and bad calls went against the pack too, much to my delight!!!!!!!! howver i agree, worst officated game ever!

by redhearring on Jul 22, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know why he took his helmet off though right? Watch this link once…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jO8bnUqxSM&feature=player_embedded

You saw Harvin knock his helmet halfway up his face right? That’d be illegal hands to face if I’m not mistaken right? It goes both ways. If you want Matthews to be penalized, then Harvin would have had to be too.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 23, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds like a personal problem

a) you can see Clay’s helmet impact Percy’s with quite a bit of force. if anything, his helmet became an issue because of that — saying Percy should have been penalized is a poor attempt to justify why Clay took his helmet off.

b) it’s the players own fault if he doesn’t secure his own chinstrap properly. i understand helmets get dislodged from time to time, but a chinstrap should not be so loose as to lift up onto one’s face upon a powerful impact. that’s a Clay problem.

c) his vision didn’t appear to be that impaired (which i assume would be another justification in his defense), particularly for a play that was clearly almost over. and it’s not like Clay couldn’t have pulled his helmet back down onto his head — it still would have, at the very least, been there to prevent injury.

again — dangerous and careless. there’s no excuse for antics like that on the football field.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 23, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? So, you’re really going to just ignore both of Harvin’s hands going to Matthews helmet as soon as the ball is snapped? That’s fine I guess but just because you don’t want to acknowledge it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

And you could tell that his vision wasn’t impaired? Haha seriously?

I agree that he shouldn’t have taken his helmet off. It should have been a penalty. But I also believe Harvin should have been penalized for illegal hands to the face. Ever think maybe nothing was called because the refs just realized the two penalties would offset each other anyway?

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 24, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

c'mon, dude

these are just excuses. from this angle (which is an awful one, but we’ll take what we can get), i don’t see any hands on or underneath a face mask at any time. furthermore, it looks like Clay’s hands were at the same level as Percy’s and their arms pushed each other away.

here’s the point of impact:

see how Percy’s helmet is pushed to the side?? that’s from Clay’s helmet smashing into it, which probably jarred Clay’s improperly secured chinstrap loose.
see how Percy’s hand is clearly on Clay’s shoulder pad?? while his other hand is not in view, it certainly looks lower than the helmet. pretty difficult to get hands that are in those positions to someone’s face — and as i said before, it looks like Clay pushed Percy’s arms to the side…so i don’t see what you are seeing, at all.

as for impaired vision:

i said it didn’t appear to be that impaired (read more thoroughly, please), which it doesn’t. and considering it could have been remedied legally by pulling his helmet back down, again, there is absolutely no justification for Clay taking off his helmet mid-play. none, whatsoever.

perhaps nothing was called because:
1) there were no illegal hands to the face, and,
2) the refs didn’t see Clay physically take his helmet off and simply assumed, upon seeing a helmet on the ground, that it came off on an impact (which happens).

illegal hands to the face is an incredible stretch in an attempt to justify Clay acting inappropriately — and i would say the same for any Viking player who purposefully took off his helmet while a play was still underway. there is no excuse for that behavior.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 25, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

gotta agree with you both

go to :07 seconds and pause it, you can clearly see harvins hand pushing around matthews enormous face, from what i can tell, based on stopping and starting, it looks like the altercation brought matthews chin strap up around his mouth. not sure on rules for either harvin or matthews, my guess is they are both wrong.

harvin (trying to be objective, but im obviously bias) has his arm fly up after the contact, leading me to believe it wasnt exactly voluntary.

matthews WILLINGLY pushes his helmet off, id think itd be just as easy to use one hand to bring the chin guard back down, but im not a football player

ruling: it is a wash. if matthews got hurt, its his problem, harvin didnt (from what i can tell) intend to smash his fist into matthews face, but i have seen worse non calls, specifically in the game in question.

by redhearring on Jul 25, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, we’ll just agree to disagree. I don’t think either of your pictures show much — or at least not what the video I linked shows. Like I’ve said, I don’t think he shoulda taken his helmet off. But it also wouldn’t have been there had Harvin not struck him with both his hands in his face.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 26, 2011 2:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think redhearring brings up some good points

the whole situation probably happened due to both players contacting each other, involuntarily.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 26, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

as a side note...

…i find it hilarious that so many Packer fans lurk this site. either they have too much time on their hands, or their own team’s site is that boring that they have to come here for kicks. ha.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 22, 2011 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Thats

The best insult you can come up with?

'I was the guy who took all the reps in the offseason, Brett was the one who took all the reps during the season.' - Aaron Rodgers

by arodgb on Jul 22, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm...

…it was more of an observation, really. i honestly couldn’t care less what you all do with your time, but i wouldn’t waste mine on your site. clearly i’m posting over here for a reason, as are you — must have more intriguing thoughts on our side of the border, or something.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 23, 2011 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’s kind of the point of SB Nation, isn’t it?

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Jul 23, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would assume more so to peruse different sports...

…not to lurk in your rival team’s forum.

there are some Pack fans, like yourself, who are civil. there are others who apparently come to cause a ruckus.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 23, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look

The article called out Packer fans, so I shared it with some Packer fans and they came over here. Is that a big deal? My only comments ever made on DN were on this one fanpost. And its been a long lockout.

'I was the guy who took all the reps in the offseason, Brett was the one who took all the reps during the season.' - Aaron Rodgers

by arodgb on Jul 23, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

...and i'm supposed to know that...??

it’s all good, dude… how the hell am i supposed to know a Packer fan invited other Packer fans to a thread?? i’m around here sporadically enough, it’s not like i keep tabs on all the Packer fans that post on the forum. it’s not a big deal, yet i’ve always seen Packer fans throwing their two cents in here and there before the lockout (and yes, it’s been a long lockout…), so my comment still applies.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 24, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Them coming over makes for better conversations

Unless you want to hang around DN with just us blowing smoke up each others butts!? I for one, vote no to that!

by PurpleJesus on Jul 24, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

but blowing smoke can be fun...!!

in all honesty, we have pretty interesting conversations amongst ourselves as it is.

if they want to post here, that’s fine — i was simply pointing out that i think it’s hilarious how many actually do. personally, roles reversed, i have absolutely no interest going to their forum to discuss their team, and i’m sure there are several others who feel the same. that doesn’t make us any more or less of fans. to each his own.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 24, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

My bad

'I was the guy who took all the reps in the offseason, Brett was the one who took all the reps during the season.' - Aaron Rodgers

by arodgb on Jul 24, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's no worries, bro

again, i didn’t mean anything as an insult — i just can’t wrap my head around going to a rival’s forum to discuss the goings-on of that team. more power to you guys for wanting to do it over here, i’d just never do the same.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 25, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

…when you go to a bar, do you just talk to Viking fans? Do you have any friends who don’t root for the Vikes, and if so, do you talk football?

Kinda the same thing….

by PurpleJesus on Jul 25, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I see a woman at the bar

who is wearing a Green Bay jersey,if I can read the letters “EE” and “BA” much more clearly than the other letters, football seems like very fine point of discussion!

by abba7 on Jul 25, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

big difference, man

i talk football with my good friends, one of which is a Packers fans, another is a die hard Steelers fan — but when we talk football, i know that going into the conversation we’ll talk about the Packers and Steelers, so that doesn’t bother me so much. plus, we talk about other non-football things.

here, i’m pretty much going into it with the mindset of 100% football, 99% of which pertains to the Vikings.

no need to pick an argument about it — i merely said i think it’s funny, and i’d never do it. i wouldn’t think that comment would spark a debate…yeesh.

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Jul 26, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on now, we're still Viking fans.

I hate the Packers when they suck and when their Good. Let the records and stuff speak for themselves but the Packers will ALWAYS suck! … well, according to a true Viking fan like myself.

☠★☪My dream, is to see the Minnesota Vi♛s win a superbowl. USA- the land were dreams come true. ☀ ツ This is our ۩۩house۩

by UnBannedVikingholic on Jul 23, 2011 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

and It should be vice-versa

☠★☪My dream, is to see the Minnesota Vi♛s win a superbowl. USA- the land were dreams come true. ☀ ツ This is our ۩۩house۩

by UnBannedVikingholic on Jul 24, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

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