Looks Like Chris Kluwe Was Exactly Right

by Christopher Gates on Jul 21, 2011 11:41 AM CDT in NFL

It turns out that Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins may, indeed, be a couple of "douchebags" after all.

...effort I was told by a union official they could do it by phone last week. Stalling to get the 20 million for Jackson and Mankins."less than a minute ago via web Favorite Retweet Replydaniel kaplan
dkaplanSBJ

(Hat tip to our friends at Bleeding Green Nation for the link.)

So, the CBA is being held up in an effort to get $20 million dollars for a couple of guys that feel as though they've been wronged by the system. The same system that is going to, in theory, a) give them $10 million each, and b) allow them to explore free agency to make even more.

Man alive, I sure do wish the system would wrong me in such a way.

Both of these guys sat out half of last season in protest of being tagged, in case anyone had forgotten that tiny detail.

I guess Chris Kluwe knew what he was talking about after all.

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In that case

Give ’em the $10 mil and let ’em go play in the UFL.

Skol Vikings.

by LA Vikes Fan on Jul 21, 2011 11:47 AM CDT reply actions

At best, it would be more accurate to say he was "half right".....

since his original rant regarding Manning and Brees have now been shown to be inaccurate.

by Drew-Dat on Jul 21, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions

Or

Manning and Brees backed off due to being called out by Kluwe. I recall Brees supporting the concept in his first response. It would appear that most references to this story have now been buried, as I tried to find the story and can’t. I did find this Yahoo Story but most stories are now quoting their agents and Brees and Manning have stopped talking. I believe they may have wanted to, but due to their lucrative endorsements were convinced by their agents and publicists to back off. Manning and Brees would certainly benefit from being UFA’s, but it probably isn’t necessary for either. Mankins and Jackson OTOH are already disgruntled, so probably don’t care about their reputations at this point.

Skol Vikings.

by LA Vikes Fan on Jul 21, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions

If often wondered that if one is a satisfied employee, can you call them “gruntled”?

by cyberuck on Jul 21, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

some days i feel gruntled…

by iseepurplepeople on Jul 21, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I have my doubts that they cared about getting called out by a punter.

"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."

by PurplePeopleEaters on Jul 21, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

More likely the massive amount of media attention it was garnering.

They both have pretty high profile persona’s and both of them make money off of them.

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 21, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Since anyone with a twitter account can now declare themselves to be a reporter, there’s a lot of misinformation floating around out there. So who knows what the absolute truth is about anything you don’t have personal knowledge of.

But according to more reputable sources, the NFLPA attorney’s are the one’s who brought up the issue as one of the “final details” that had not yet been addressed. And, more importantly, it wasn’t in reference to Brees and Manning specifically, but rather an argument that NO player should receive a franchise tag more than once during their career. This was an issue the Players Association had agreed should be a point of contention prior to the meetings even beginning. Subsequently, as things “leaked” out, it was inaccurately reported by some hack that Manning and Brees were willing and ready to stall a deal for their own personal benefit.

Once all the dust settles, I’m confident NFL players will be glad they had professionals like Manning and Brees representing their best interests rather than some reactionary hothead who is quick to call someone a “douchebag” before knowing all the facts.

by Drew-Dat on Jul 21, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions

i wouldn't take anything kluwe says too seriously.

i think he realizes how insignificant he is in the big picture, and he offers some comic relief with his “white board diaries” and stuff like this. i take it as more tongue in cheek. i personally think the guy is hilarious for it. he kind of speaks for the fan’s frustration. and he’s a good punter too!

by danny lloyd on Jul 21, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions

True That

No one on this board questioned his reporting because it fit the community’s prejudices. Sad.

by Ragnar on Jul 21, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Not sure it's entirely correct.

Just read in SI that Jackson said he wasn’t holding up anything – that this news wasn’t true?? Not sure what to believe anymore.

by Wytefang on Jul 21, 2011 12:38 PM CDT reply actions

technically speaking

Vincent Jackson and Mankins were considered RFA’s under the uncapped year and thus received a lot less money than they would have being tagged.

Same argument Ray Edwards had last year, the ’I’m not playing for less than my backup’ complaint

when asked by Dan Patrick if his name alluded to not making quick decisions in the pocket, Ponder calmly replied "As crazy as it sounds, my mom's maiden name is actually Superbowlwinner. All one word"

by filbert33 on Jul 21, 2011 1:48 PM CDT reply actions

look at vjax twitter

VJ
@VincentTJackson VJ
Preciate the support guys! Can’t believe all u read or see in media. I have made no demands, I wanna play ball like the rest of my peers!

by redhearring on Jul 21, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

I really worry

He spells things that way in his head too…

**Rupert for ProBowl 2012!**

by LeeleeX on Jul 21, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah -- and he misspelled 'peeps'

what a dumbass.

by rj-b on Jul 21, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions

lol that's great!

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 22, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions

just like the telephone game in school

id trust vjax’s words over a guy told a guy who told a guy, sorry klu

by redhearring on Jul 21, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions

To a degree...

I doubt VJax’s gonna come out and go, “Yeah y’all, I’m just trying to get paid. Screw football!”. He can easily say one thing and do another.

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by KJSegall on Jul 21, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Actually...

He did say that last year when he held out.

by scvikingfan on Jul 21, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions

fair enough

lets let it shake out a bit and see who is telling the truth, though character/personality would lend itself towards kluwe

by redhearring on Jul 21, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

True enough.

But then he only incurred the wrath of a single team and it’s fanbase, and in reality, his move and stance was considerably more ‘justifiable’ back then. This time, he stands to have PM the entire NFL (except for Logan Mankins) seriously ticked off, and his stance is now based much more in greed and selfishness.

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by KJSegall on Jul 21, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions

The vote is supposedly going to happen before 5pm tonight

I’d rather hear that for a week straight than hear “we’re far apart from one another”.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on - Winston Churchill

by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jul 21, 2011 3:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

And yet...

the Twitterverse called out Kluwe for calling them ‘douchebags’. So, it’s wrong to call someone a douchebag on Twitter, but perfectly OK for these two to hold up the entire process for other football players… which, oh yeah, includes Kluwe himself?

If this itself were twitter, the appropriate hashtag here would be #manpuntersgetnorespect.

If anyone noticed, Kluwe re-tweeted something from Brees stating he had no intention of holding things up. He’s backing up his story the way he should.

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by KJSegall on Jul 21, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions

it doesn't matter who he called a douchebag....it's the fact that he did so publically that is so cool.

but really, what were his options?
if he called the owners douchebags, then he might get blackballed.
if he called the fans douchebags, then he will lose followers on twitter.
if he called the goddell and the league douchebags, then he might get fined.
so, that only leaves “THAT GUY”, you know justin beiber, mole face and those 2 other d-bags!
okay, sign me up for a kluwe jersey. (small print…the previous comment was for satirical purposes only).

by danny lloyd on Jul 21, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Well he pretty much did..

I think Kluwe is hilarious. In that video he did he pretty much did call the owners, league and goodell douchbags. At the end he even asked Goodell not to fine him. After all of this and just how wierd he seems to be, I would sport a Kluwe jersey anyday. Besides, how awesome would it be to have a punter’s jersey? :)

by Thor82 on Jul 21, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone who wears our Punter's jersey...

immediately takes status as a ‘true’ fan.

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by KJSegall on Jul 21, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Fuad Reviz!

I think that’s how you spell it…

Childress gone, TJack gone, new stadium on the way: it's like that Christmas when Santa brought prostitutes!

by Grime on Jul 22, 2011 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions

I think the premier punter jersey of all time

would say “Ray Guy”

by abba7 on Jul 24, 2011 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions

oooooh mmma gaaawd !!!!

my previous comment was based solely on “the before time” as in before i had witnessed the complete genius and beauty of ‘the video". and since reading your comment, i have now seen the light, the shining brilliance of the universal warcraft mind. i am here to testify that i have now been baptised.
yes, i am witness to “the great punt-ification”, spiraling up in the sky in perfect arching trajectory.
i am forever changed, and youtube will never be the same. holy flippin’ wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_opRmBPPBk <<< click for salvation.

kluwe, you are my guitar hero !!!

by danny lloyd on Jul 21, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Jesus man!

You almost made me spit coffee through my nose! HAHA I hadn’t realized you didn’t already see the video. Now you see the light. Ha

by Thor82 on Jul 22, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions

For months coverage of this Multi-Billion negotiation has centered on THIS day as the day that the owners set to meet in Atlanta as part of their annual schedule could review any proposals, but somehow it’s been held up by a couple of guys and $20mil. And the best part, is that nobody’s name is attached to these accusations. All do respect to Dan Kaplan, someone I’ve never heard of in my life and clearly isn’t part of the larger conversation, who sir is this Union official? Why would anonymity be necessary here?

by LoveHate on Jul 21, 2011 4:42 PM CDT reply actions

Could be a cooked statement

otherwise maybe he doesn’t want to reveal his source because the lockout isn’t over yet and he wants to keep getting information from them?

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jul 21, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions

A Site That Rhymes With "Red Spin" Just Ripped Kluwe

The article can be summarized thusly:

Kluwe is a punter, and punters are pu$$ies, so he should just shut up.

Manning and Co. are working class heroes who are taking on the NFL power structure on behalf of the world’s proletariat.

So, it is wrong for a millionaire athlete to criticize multi-millionaire athletes, but good journalism to publish x-rated photographs of multi-millionaire athletes. Got it.

by Midnight Rambler on Jul 21, 2011 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Ding! (no pun intended)

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jul 21, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions

That place

Has been complete garbage ever since Will Leitch left. Which is sad, because it used to be the place that most sports blogs aspired to be.

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by Christopher Gates on Jul 21, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I love all the Drewettes that come out and play anytime someone's frowned upon their savior.

Look, I get that he’s a good guy. Really, I do, but there needs to be a little bit of seperation from Brees, the person, and Brees, the NFLPA rep because they are just that: Different. Are you telling me that somehow Mankins and Jackson added this stuff into the lawsuit without the knowledge of Brady, Brees, or Manning. C’mon, they all want it in there too. You don’t think they are smart enough to realize this could hold things up? The players can drop their lawsuit at any time so that they can sign the CBA, but they don’t want to drop the lawsuit because of $20Mil. Problem is. People love to hammer on professional athletes…errr….punters whenever they speak out on stuff like this. Today, he was on The Jim Rome Show. Front and center, not hiding. Explaining himself. Taking it like a man, and not releasing statements through his agent like a little bitch.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Jul 21, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions