Awkward Glory: The Daily Norseman in Mankato
Note: This is a seriously long article. Actually, it's more like a novella because we didn't want to leave anything out. We break the story up between my impressions and memories and Ted's. It should be pretty easy to tell who's talking, but, in case it isn't, a good rule of thumb to remember is that if it's inappropriate and offensive, Ted said it. Oh, and if Tim Nela is out there reading, this is the article where you get your shout-out.
SG: Looking back at the Daily Norseman experience at the Minnesota Vikings' 2011 training camp seems like a really cool dream and it's hard to believe that it actually happened. Perhaps this is partly because we're fans first and journalists second. We're bloggers, renegade mole-people writing about our interests from undisclosed basement locations. To have the Vikings organization not only invite us to training camp but also treat us like real journalists was pretty darn cool.
And it's something that never would have happened if it wasn't for the rabid, Purple-lovin' fans here at the Daily Norseman who make this site so great. So it only seems right to share the experience, in all of its awkward glory, with you. Sit back, grab a snack, and, just as if we were hanging out together at a barbecue, Ted and I will share the Daily Norseman's adventures in Mankato.
Ted: Renegade mole-people writing from an undisclosed basement? With wireless Internet, who blogs in their basement anymore? I have an office, with many leather bound books and my house smells of rich mahogany. Okay, last Ron Burgundy quote, I promise.
Psst...SG is a vegetarian, so this is a BYOB party...bring your own bacon. But still, it's a good story, you'll like it.
In the bleak mid-winter
SG: The events that led to the Daily Norseman being in Mankato for a couple hot days in August actually started way back on March 1, 2011. Winter still had a strong, icy grip on Minnesota, the NFL labor dispute was grinding toward a lockout, and the Minnesota Vikings had decided to invite members of the alternate sports media to a meeting at Winter Park. The Vikings recognized that more and more people were turning to online communities, like DN, for information on their teams and the Vikings wanted to open a dialogue with some of those sites and talk about making us a part of their information loop.
Ted: Really, they just want to use us like dirty sluts, because the Vikings want a new stadium, and the best way to get their message out is to work around mouthpieces that don't like the Arden Hills Stadium, like a newspaper that rhymes with Schmineapolis Car Baboon. But we know they have ulterior motives, and they know we know, and we know that they know that we know, so I were willing to put on the high heels, the push up bra, and the six inch heels and let them metaphorically reverse cowgirl me, because hey, it was a foot in the door. And no, I have no shame, or pride, whatsoever.
SG: As the in-state contingency of DN, Eric and I attended the meeting, and Ted and Chris were able to take part in the meeting via phone. Overwhelmingly, the refrain from all the sites represented at that meeting was that we would love to have access to players the way traditional media did. The Vikings representatives thoughtfully suggested that we might be invited to training camp in Mankato as a trial run. The bloggers beamed with joy, got a tour of the facility, and toddled home.
Ted: And those of us on the phone died inside a little with jealousy.
SG: Eleven days later on March 12, 2011 the NFL labor gridlock turned into the much-dreaded lockout. Things looked bleak and I didn't know if we would have football in 2011, let alone training camp. As the lockout dragged on, month after month, I lowered my expectations.
Lockout lifted
SG: Initially, the Vikings had set a July 18 deadline for deciding if there would be a training camp in Mankato, but when it began to look like a labor deal was forthcoming, they postponed making a decision. Then, July 25, 2011 the NFL lockout was lifted and there was much rejoicing. The Vikings would have their 46th consecutive training camp at Minnesota State University, Mankato and, finally, we would have something interesting to write about again.
Ted: Really? What, the stadium talk, legislative sessions, and state budget talks ad nauseum weren't riveting?
SG: No, not so much.
Vikings make DN and offer we can't refuse
SG: The day right after the lockout was lifted the Vikings contacted all those alternate media outlets they had spoken with back in March and invited us to attend training camp on August 5 and 6. Now we were scrambling to try to make arrangements to attend training camp. I didn't even know until Wednesday afternoon whether I would be able to make it to training camp two days later. Unfortunately, a prior commitment meant I would be able to attend only one of the two days the Vikings were allowing us access, but one day was better than none so I packed my bags for Mankato.
Ted: Wow, sounds easy, just pack a bag and make the one hour trip south, home within 24 hours. Must be nice. I had to load up the DN Party Bus, pack...and not put any Vikings gear in the luggage. See, one of the rules of engagement was that we couldn't wear any Vikings garb if we're covering the team, team rule. Seeing as how a vast majority of my baseball hats and t-shirts are Vikings something, I decided to go with the sleeveless Larry The Cable Guy Look. That's professional, right? Then to secure the kitchen pass, I had to promise to do evil and unspeakable things with the wife when I got home. This weekend is antiquing and a tea room for lunch. Next weekend is a Shakespeare Festival, and I think I might have inadvertently committed myself to a symphony performance the Saturday college football starts. Then, and only then, I got on the road. Nine hours, two Iowa Highway Patrol warnings for speeding (sometimes, being a retired military guy pays HUGE dividends), and one delicious bag of Pull-n-Peel Cherry Twizzlers later, I hit Mankato.
Piece of cake.
SG: You're such a whiner.
Friday morning I meet Ted
SG: In December 2010 I met Chris and Eric when Chris came to Minnesota to cover the Vikings home game against the Buffalo Bills. We called it our office Christmas party because we had three of the four (pre-Kyle) front-page writers together. Ted, however, wasn't able to make it to that gathering, so the first time I ever clapped eyes on him was Friday morning when I walked into the Vikings' media center in Mankato. I was a bundle of nerves and I can't tell you how great it was to see his friendly, vaguely familiar face. Ted had prior experience with training camp and I was thrilled to know I had a friend there who could give me some direction and, hopefully, keep me from doing anything too stupid.
Ted: Yeah, that meeting could have happened so much sooner, but nooooooooo, whenever Ted comes to Minnesota, everyone is suddenly busy. But when Chris comes to town, wooooooo let's party!! The Grand Poobah is in town, let's drop everything and meet him! Ted? Yeah, busy. Gotta clip the dog's nails and then express his anal glands. Too bad you only make it to the Homeland once a year, maybe next time, Cubby. Oh, I can go to training camp? Hey, it'll be great to meet you!
In all seriousness, it was nice to have someone to hang out with on the sideline, and Skol Girl was a hoot to spend time with. It's very intimidating being around the players, and seeing guys like Rick Spielman and Scott Studwell just casually walking around. It was nice to know there was someone who was just as petrified as I was standing right next to me.
Media pass, the key to the kingdom
SG: This summer some of my friends scored VIP passes to see U2. At the time, I was jealous because I have never had a spiffy pass that got me into something the general public couldn't. I am jealous no longer.
At the Vikings' media center we picked up our media passes. As we were walking to the practice field for the morning walk-through Ted had just finished saying how cool it was that we got to walk over to the field with the players just like we belonged there, when three steps in front of us who should be walking but Kevin Williams, Jared Allen, and Adrian Peterson. I'm not sure I would believe it myself except that the Associated Press snapped a picture so I have visual proof.
Ted: Yeah, that was like a cool guy pass, and I felt like royalty. I mean, I NEVER get cool stuff, like box seats, luxury boxes, or a complete set of Happy Meal collectibles. But this...this was the Golden Ticket, baby, and I was going to tour the Wonka Chocolate Factory. Except there was no chocolate. And the Oompa Loompas were seven feet tall and could break me in half with their pinkie. I mean, even Ryan Longwell is a big guy. I'm never making fun of kickers again. And you shouldn't either, because they can curbstomp you.
Morning walk-through
SG: The morning walk-through was a much more academic exercise than the afternoon practice was going to be. As such, it really wasn't that exciting to watch. What was exciting for me was simply seeing the Vikings players up close. Also exciting, but in a different way was identifying some of the different sports journalists who were there and just being amused that I was cruising the same sidelines they were. I felt like a writer groupie, finally seeing the journalists I read on a daily basis.
Ted: It's really weird, because like Skol Girl, I was almost as excited to see Zulgad, Pelissero, and Fowler, because I read their stuff every day. And now, I was on equal ground, and had an opportunity to live in their world for a couple days. Surreal. But then you start looking around, and there's Chuck Foreman. Holy crap!! There's Mike Singletary, and hey isn't that Scott Studwell? And then Studwell looked at me, from a distance of about 40 yards, and I sharted myself. Seriously, that is still one badass stare. And he was smiling. I would've hated to have been his kid growing up. I'd be incontinent.
SG: At the conclusion of the morning walk-through we took up our positions with the other media, preparing to attempt to get players leaving the field to give us interviews. I couldn't believe it was that simple, but as Antoine Winfield was walking past us Ted just moved over to Winfield and asked if he had a minute or two to talk, Winfield agreed. It was so professional, such a real journalist moment that I was gob-smacked.
Ted: Yeah, cool as a cucumber on the outside was shitting razor blades on the inside. I mean, this is Antoine Winfield, pound for pound the best player in the NFL, and you think you're just going to walk your little trolling blogger ass up to him and say 'answer my questions? Well, I did, and I asked instead of declared, and Jesus on a Trampoline, he did. Holy and crap. All that was running though my mind as the interview was going on was 'should I or shouldn't I say 'Go Bucks!', or the ever obnoxious O-H! when we were done? It's not Vikings-ish, we both went to Ohio State...that would be okay, wouldn't it? NO, you idiot, it would be STOOPID, don't do it! DON'T DO IT!!! Hey Antoine, thanks for your time...DO IT...NO, YOU'LL GET KICKED OUT OF HERE...SAY IT...KEEP YOUR PIEHOLE SHUT, IDIOT.....and gone. Didn't do it.
Media center
SG: Following the morning walk-through, we went back to the media center to write and post our first impressions of camp. As I sat there, in the midst of all those other sports journalists, typing out my morning observations on training camp, I felt like Rosalind Russell's character Hilde Johnson from the movie His Girl Friday. Unfortunately, Cary Grant did not walk in, but just about everyone in the media did-Ted and I had staked out some prime real estate by the cold drinks.
Ted: When we got back to the press room, I started typing, but I had to sit back and reflect on what had just happened. I had about 6,000 different trains of thought running through my head, and didn't know what I was going to write. I've had writer's block plenty of times, but I'd never had a Writer's Stampede before, and that's what was happening. Yeah, I had done this in 2006, but this was different, it felt different. Vikings Board, the other site I did this for, was small potatoes compared to DN. SB Nation gives us a legitimacy that few other Internet platforms do, and I felt we had just crossed the Rubicon. 'We're different now', I thought, and how we act in the next day or two determines the fate OF THE FREE WORLD. Okay, not that dramatic. But it seemed like we were auditioning for a part or interviewing for a job, and we were kicking ass.
Lunch
SG: If there was any doubt that training camp was a big deal to NFL-starved Vikings fans, it was cleared up when I went to lunch. You couldn't find a restaurant near the campus that wasn't overrun with people decked out in their purple finery. Hot, hungry people of all ages were cramming into restaurants and I actually felt out of place because I wasn't wearing Vikings gear.
Ted: I decided to head back to my motel room, get some thoughts down, grab some lunch, and head back to training camp for the afternoon practice. The media parking lot is across the street and kitty-corner from the practice field, and right between Gage Hall, where the players live, and another building on campus where they spend a lot of time, where I imagine they watch a lot of film and have meetings. Players ride bikes to and fro, down the middle of the street, traffic be damned. The speed limit is 25, but I thought it prudent to pretty much idle out of there, because no one--fans, players, dogs--use the sidewalks, People are in the streets, players are on bikes, it doesn't matter. So I pull out of the parking lot, and start down the street, and a guy on a bike turns back into the street towards some fans who were asking for autographs and this guy TURNS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME Had I been going the prerequisite 20-25 mph, I would've hit him. But I put on the brakes, and disaster was averted.
And who was that 'him'? Donovan McNabb. Yeah, wouldn't THAT have been something? Forever known as the guy that ran over McNabb at training camp. But the blogger in me initially thought...if I had hit him, I would've had a good five minutes before the cops showed up to get an interview with him. Had I not, you know, knocked him unconscious or anything. I vowed not to let an opportunity like that pass me by again. (I'm kidding on that one. Pretty sure I'm kidding.)
Friday afternoon practice
SG: Heading back out to the field Friday afternoon you could tell that the intensity level was different when the players donned pads and helmets. I wandered over to watch the defense run drills and work on technique, particularly the linebackers. Mike Singletary is as intense as Leslie Frazier is calm, and watching him interacting with the Vikings linebackers I got the feeling that he doesn't miss much. One can only hope that Singletary's intensity bodes well for a linebacking corps that will have to adjust to being without Ben Leber this season.
Ted: So this is where my surreal moment happens. I went out to the practive field a few minutes before Skol Girl to take some pictures for the website, and who do I end up walking across the street and onto the field with but Jim Kleinsasser, The People's Champion. Woo!! KSAUCE!!! So I look up at him, like two feet up, because he's a freaking giant, and drop the ever casual, hey Jim, how's it going? Pretty good, he says. I ask him if I can talk to him for a few minutes when practice is over? Sure, he says. Shouldn't be a problem. And that's how I got to interview Jim Kleinsasser. Crazy. And Singletary still looks like he could play about 25-30 snaps a game, by he way.
SG: While cruising the sidelines I saw a guy who looked familiar and then, like a bolt out of the blue, I realized he was one of the guys from the "Stadium Shuffle" video. Turns out he's an intern with the Vikings and about the most helpful guy a nervous quasi-journalist, like myself, could hope to meet. He asked if there were any players I wanted to interview and I found my mouth saying, "Erin Henderson" before my head understood what was going on. Probably a good thing I didn't have a chance to think about it.
Ted: That's Zac, the pride of East Grand Forks! Go Green Wave! Pretty small world when you run into someone who went to your high school a long way from where you went to high school at.
SG: During the morning practice the stands had been about 2/3 full of fans, but during the afternoon the stands were so full that the fire marshal would probably have gone squinty with rage. Multitudes of fans clad in sunscreen and purple filled the stands, and stood along the fence. Ted and I started talking to a guy named Tim Nela. According to Tim, he'd been working out with cornerback Marcus Sherels during the off-season and that Sherels had worked hard and was going to impress us. Tim's words seemed oddly prophetic because just a few minutes later Sherels was hauling in an interception. So, if Sherels has a breakout season in 2011, remember you heard it here, via his friend Tim, first. See Tim, I didn't forget.
Ted: Yeah, that was amazing, but paled to what I saw Saturday night. It just reinforced my belief that, after all the poo-pooing of a new stadium by the anti-stadium crowd, there's going to be a new stadium. When you read a stadium piece in the Strib that is so biased against it, and then read the comments below that always seem to be 2-1 against getting a new place, it really is a morale sapper. But in Mankato, the SIlent Majority was silent no more. There were thousands of people that showed up on a Friday just to watch the Vikings practice. Stadium Drive was awash in Vikings fans--Dads with their sons, Moms with their daughters, whole families clad in purple in gold. Living in St. Louis, sometimes I get down in the dumps about the whole stadium issue, and I think to myself that at best, Vikings fans seems apathetic about the team. Yeah, never mind on that. It was Purple craziness all weekend, and it was a real emotional lift for me. Thank you, thank you all who support and love the Vikes. It was great to see.
SG: I don't think I'd ever really appreciated how difficult it was to maintain a sense of journalistic detachment when it comes to football. My compromise with this was that I completely ignored it. As Lorenzo Booker broke loose a run, I was shouting "Whoa!" just like my 20-month-old niece. It might not have been the height of professionalism, but sometimes, as my little niece would attest, you just need to "Whoa!" Booker's explosive run was definitely whoa-worthy.
Ted: Yeah, that was the hardest thing for me, too. At one point during the afternoon practice, Joe Webb connected on a long pass downfield to Adrian Peterson, which caused the crowd to roar. And me to do a 'Wow!', which is slightly more demonstrative than a 'Whoa!'. Thankfully, my 'Wow!' was drowned out by the rest of the crowd going 'WOOOOOOO!!!!', which is several steps above both the 'Whoa!' and 'Wow!'. I quickly looked around, didn't see Vikings security coming to remove me for being a fan first, and then buried my head in my phone, where I tweeted what I just saw. It was freakin' sweet.
Face-to-face
SG: When the afternoon practice ended I felt a strange tightness in my chest that was most likely just a small coronary thrombosis brought on by knowing I would be conducting my first ever interview with an NFL player. No, no pressure at all. My intern friend brought Erin Henderson over as promised and, after a really lame opening salvo, I finally managed to ask Henderson a couple coherent, topical questions about his game and his preparation for this season. Henderson was a really nice guy and did not mention of the fact that I sounded like a squirrel on meth-I will always like him for that.
Not long after my interview with Erin Henderson, I lucked into tagging along for the exclusive interview that Ted had scored with the Vikings 2011 first-round draft pick Christian Ponder. Ted asked all sorts of insightful questions about the similarities in the offensive system Ponder ran in college and the one that Bill Musgrave is implementing with the Vikings. I should have been thinking of something insightful and football-related to ask Ponder about. That would have been a good idea. Instead I asked, "Did Dallas come to training camp with you?"
Dallas, in case you're curious, is Ponder's black Labrador retriever and the local television stations had shown Dallas waiting on the sidelines for Ponder when the quarterback was working out at the University of Minnesota before the lockout was lifted. Considering Ponder felt he hadn't done as well on Friday, I thought it would be nice if his dog, the only love money can buy, was waiting for him. And, well, I just couldn't help thinking that if I were in Ponder's place having to answer a barrage of questions that all seemed to boil down to "Are you going to be the quarterback of the future? How ‘bout now? No? Now? Still no? Now?" that I would be getting bored answering the same thing over and over.
I have no idea what Christian Ponder thought of my ridiculous, and apparently, complete non sequitur of a question. But in a move that just seems to prove that dog people really are better, he laughed like a good sport and told me that Dallas was keeping busy in puppy school while he was in Mankato.
For as much as I have wondered, "I asked him what? How is that hard-hitting journalism?" since then, I don't regret asking Ponder about his dog. Hearing the guy laugh after a rough day was worth it--and, if I had it to do over, I'd still ask the question.
Ted: It was the best question of the interview, and one he seemed to really enjoy answering. I mean, he had just had, even by his own admission, his worst practice since training camp started. He was made available to the press, and right after practice, while Skol Girl was talking to Erin Henderson (and looking like a true pro, by the way--don't let her fool you) and I was talking to Kleinsasser, Ponder was literally surrounded by dozens of local print and TV media asking him why he thought he sucked that day. Then he got pulled aside to do a one on one interview with Kevin Seifert, NFC North blogger for the evil corporate overlord that is ESPN. THEN, two schmucks from a website he's probably never heard of want to ask him some questions, and I gotta say, he didn't bat an eye. And then when SG asked about Dallas, you could sense that he just completely relaxed, and really appreciated the question, any question that wasn't about football right then.
Well played, Mauer.
Rock star
SG: Just in case there was any doubt that Adrian Peterson is a rock star of a player and a fan favorite, the way the crowd in Mankato cheered for the running back every time they saw him removes it. It reminded me of the footage of the crowd going wild when the Beatles played Shea Stadium in 1965. In fact, people screamed so much for Peterson that there's a portion of my recording of our interview with Christian Ponder where my digital recorder couldn't pick up what Ponder was saying over the crowd noise when Adrian Peterson walked past them.
Ted: Yeah, it's absolutely nuts how...nuts...the fans got when AP walked from the locker room out to the practice field. Peterson is a rock star, and on Saturday, he did something really cool. The Vikings staff brought a little girl over to meet him, she looked to be maybe 8 or 9. He was getting interviewed for TV, and when that was done, he shook the little girl's hand, put his arm on her shoulder, and they walked towards the practice field where he gave her some one on one time, away from the crowd, for about five minutes. A lot of guys would've just shaken the hand, taken a pic, and then hit the road, but AP seemed to make sure she got some time just with him. It was really cool to see.
That's all she wrote
SG: After the interviews on Friday afternoon, there wasn't much left to do but gather up my things from the media center and head home. It was with regret that I packed up my things because I knew, knew that I would have likely done better on Day 2. Lord knows I wouldn't have been nearly as nervous on the second day, but I had been lucky to make it out to Mankato for even one day and that would have to be enough.
On his own
Ted: I was able to stick around for Saturday, and for me, the Saturday night practice at Blakeslee Stadium was crazy. It was one part State Fair, one part Friday Night Lights, and one part NFL. The atmosphere was just electric, at least for me, and you Vikings fans, God Bless You. Over 9,100 fans packed an 8,500 seat capacity stadium to watch the Vikings practice. Not scrimmage, not a tete-a-tete with Kansas City, just a regular practice. It broke the all time training camp attendance record, and it was a football starved crowd. They cheered just about everything, and it was good to know football was indeed back. Earlier in the day, I was able to talk to Brian Robison, and I was feeling pretty froggy now. It's time to go big, because I was going home either way. So if I was getting shot down on an interview, it was going to be epic. It was time to talk to Jared Allen, or die trying. Well, not die. I'm dedicated, don't get me wrong, but I ain't getting killed over that.
So Allen is coming off the field, and I walk right up to him and ask Jared, got time to walk and talk? Sure, brotha, no problem.
This was great, because I had at least an extra two minutes, because the players had to walk from the stadium, across the practice field, and then across the street. It was gold, Jerry, GOLD. We walk the phalanx of fans asking for autogrpahs, which he stops and signs, then it's on. I asked him about Charlie Johnson, the defense under Pagac, what Frazier's like as a head coach, and how the d-line is shaping up. And then I was going to take a play out of the Skol Girl book of interviewing and ask an off the wall question about him having Paul, Jr. Designs (from the TV show American Chopper) to build a bike for the Jared Allen Foundation. But right as I asked the d-line question...Zac the Intern cut me off and says last question! Zac buddy, how could you do that to fellow Green Wave? But me being the mild mannered blogger that I am, I politely thanked Jared for his time and the work that his foundation does (they refurbish houses to accomodate the handicaps of American servicemen that have been wounded in battle), he shook my hand, and my time at training camp had come to and end.
SG: There it is, the exhaustive account of the Daily Norseman's adventures at training camp. Hope you enjoyed it. And, fingers-crossed, the Vikings will invite us back again and we can keep giving you the kind of quirky coverage you have come to expect from DN.
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I always like that glimpse of behind the scenes stuff...
Thought people here at DN would like it too :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
This is really cool!
You run an AMAZING site here and I’m glad that the team reached out to you to show you the respect you all deserve! Thanks for sharing it with us all. :)
The thing that makes DN so amazing...
Is the active dialogue that we all share. You and a few thousand of your friends are part of what make this site fun. It still seems kind of wild that the Vikings know about us and reached out to us.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
I agree.
I was checking out some fantasy stuff and came across this;
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-08/fantasy-football/photo/44566
You’ve made it big time! :)
As my baby niece would say, whoa!
My brother-in-law said I should post that picture on Facebook, tagging myself and all the players. He thought when they got the notification they might send me a friend request. Not likely, but lots of fun to imagine :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Awesome!
Sounds like a great experience for you guys. And kudos to the Vikings for reaching out to the blogasphere. I enjoy your posts – keep them coming :)
Glad you enjoyed this :)
It was quite the experience, felt like my head was on a swivel there was so much to see.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Good job!
I could have done without the part about "expressing the anal glands’ though.
Ted, you could have been a real hero to Ponder fans if you would have run over McNabb!
Or maybe Webb fans! :)
Sounds like you may be the “crazy uncle” of this site?
Well, this is a country of free expression!
Great work, Ted. Exposing the hard-hitting truth that Dallas is indeed a dog is one of those underreported issues that people living with canines everywhere need to know, and they might never fathom such wonders themselves without the internet.
Sure, I am highly-biased, was born in Ohio, and may even have an AKC tattoo hidden somewhere, but simply ask yourselves one question: Do you really get the full scope of the wide world of sports like this on ESPN? No, only the Daily Norseman goes to these depths of coverage, spanning Mankato, Blue Earth, Infinity, and beyond.
Hey, MarkSP18
I think giving Ted crazy uncle status is a great idea!
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Crazy uncle, huh?
Well, no sneaking sips of beer behind the shed on Thanksgiving for you anymore!
This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrisette had a baby and named it "this exact situation"--Sterling Archer
And that is why I love this site
While I am green with envy, I do appreciate the way you write the human side. I read several SBnation team sites and the Vikings are the only ones to treat us fans as important. This reinforces my belief that I choose the right team to follow forty years ago.
Skol and well done both of you.
by SouthernNorseman on Aug 10, 2011 4:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
The Vikings organization...
Seems like a class act. I’m thrilled that they are reaching out to the blog world and I think they’re approaching it with a reasonable mix of optimism and caution. Not only that, but it was impressive to me that all the folks from the Vikings organization who I interacted with seemed to genuinely like what they were doing, from players to interns.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Capping the Recap
Very good recap, makes me think I wanna be a real blogger when I grow up! Mankato, huh? Hmmmmmm…..
SG: when three steps in front of us who should be walking but Kevin Williams, Jared Allen, and Adrian Peterson.
And you, SG, with the dark glasses and hat pulled low, so no one can see where your eyeballs are pointed. Tsk tsk. :)
TG: But then you start looking around, and there’s Chuck Foreman.
Chuck Foreman. You didn’t tell us Chuck Foreman was there. I had a question for Chuck Foreman. I wanted to know The Great Man’s evaluation of Adrian Peterson and Toby Gerhart. I’d’ve liked to hear his thoughts on how the running game in the NFL has changed since he dominated the gridiron. Really Ted. Really really.
SG: I felt like Rosalind Russell’s character Hilde Johnson from the movie His Girl Friday.
< non-sequitor> For some reason I always want to think that was Katherine Hepburn and I’m always wrong < /non-sequitor>
TG: Had I been going the prerequisite 20-25 mph, I would’ve hit him. But I put on the brakes, and disaster was averted.
And who was that ‘him’? Donovan McNabb. Yeah, wouldn’t THAT have been something? Forever known as the guy that ran over McNabb at training camp.
“Why did the Vikings have such a crap year in 2011?”
“Some guy ran down their veteran QB in the parking lot, and the newbie QBs weren’t ready yet. McNabb got a cool $5,000,000 in 2011 for sitting on the bench with his legs in a cast all year long.”
“What’s the name of the guy who caused that?”
And I would know the answer to the question!!! HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE?!?!
SG: So, if Sherels has a breakout season in 2011, remember you heard it here, via his friend Tim, first. See Tim, I didn’t forget.
I pray you’re right. SOMEONE needs to have a break-out season for the Vikings, it wouldn’t be so bad if it were someone in the secondary :)
TG: Yeah, never mind on that. It was Purple craziness all weekend, and it was a real emotional lift for me.
Now that’s really sweet. Sometimes you forget how self-supportive you have to be when you’re way outside of Viking-territory and on your own in an unholy land, where infidels pay homage and cheer for foreign teams and the colors are never quite right. I don’t know what I’d do if I suddenly found myself in a room or on a field filled with like-minded Viking fans. Maybe feel like I was Purple Heaven :)
Skol Girl, I enjoyed your writing this year, despite any nervousness you may have had, and I’m sure you’ll kick even more tail with it next year! Thank you, for making the time to get down there and bringing that experience back to us poor, starving, desperate DN’ers who couldn’t make it to Mankato :)
Ted, you’re having too much doing this. That’s unprofessional. Stop it. Learn to be curmudgeonly and whiney, like all the best journalists. Seriously, thanks for all your time and effort on this gig, I needed a big shot of Purple after this stressful off-season and you provided it. Feel free to show us all the pictures you’ve been holding out on us with, I’m sure you got more! Come on man, give it up! :)
p.s. Did you know that “TG” also stands for “Trans-Gender”? Thanks to President Obama, I know that now :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Thanks DCPurple :)
I love that you caught the reference to His Girl Friday! There’s this whole world of great classic films that are kind of being forgotten, but not if I have anything to say about it. Both Rosalind Russell and Katherine Hepburn tended to play feisty, kick-ass women. If I can channel just a smidgen of that next time (fingers crossed) we go to training camp, I think I’ll do better with the interviews.
Oh, and if I hadn’t had the hat and sunglasses on in that picture you would see that I was looking pretty intently at my feet trying not to trip and land on my face. You know, cuz I’m smooth like that ;-)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
I can't blame her
For checking them out if she did. Hell, i’m a straight guy and I would’ve checked them out for a second…then groan inwardly at horribly out of shape I am compared to them.
I haven't see that many muscles...
All in one place, ever in my life. Never. A-ma-zing.
Even offensive lineman Phil Loadholt wasn’t nearly as tunky as I thought he would be. Loadholt is 6’8" and surprisingly agile and muscle-bound—the comparison to what Bryant McKinnie looked like when he arrived at camp is surprising,
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Hmm, I always wanted to be the answer to a trivia question
Just not that one…and I have a few more videos and pics. I’ll try and get them all out in one last post before we move on the the Tennessee game.
This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrisette had a baby and named it "this exact situation"--Sterling Archer
Thank You!
This was a great read.
Ya Sure You Bettcha
by The Bears are Ditkaless on Aug 10, 2011 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
If you think this was great
Just wait until next year when we’re all there.
Yes, I’ve already got my leave blocked off. A year ahead of time. Stop looking at me like that.
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by Christopher Gates on Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
I'm curious Chris
Are the people you associate with on your job aware of what you do in your “pastime”?
Oh yeah
Actually came up at my last assignment when I came into the instructor area and saw the guy that “lived” in the cube next to me reading Arrowhead Pride (SB Nation’s KC Chiefs site). I told him that I ran DN. . .took me actually going to the site and physically logging in for him to believe it. (-:
SBNation Minnesota - For the greatest sports fans in the world.
The Daily Norseman - The greatest Vikings' site on the Internet!
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be—or to be indistinguishable from—self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time." - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon
by Christopher Gates on Aug 10, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta be worth an EPR statement and a bump!
Community organizer! :)
Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!
SKOL!
Chris, it will be so great to have you in Mankato!
LOL I was about to say “next year in Mankato” but it sounded a bit too much like “next year in Jerusalem”.
But seriously, all of us at training camp? It would be like an invasion of blogger awesome.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Without a doubt
Probably the finest read I have ever had the pleasure to read here. I’m very proud of you both (the whole staff really), feel honored to be able to partake in this fine website, learn more Viking info from this site than ANY other site on the web, and give the Vikings staff a great deal of credit for recognizing our awesomenationness! You know, the people that comment on here are the most hardcore of the hardcore Viking fans around. That’s a fact!
I couldn't agree more!
I’m having DirecTV installed tomorrow and it includes NFL Ticket (worth the price right there). I was wondering if anyone has had the service and their impression of it. 200 or so channels i think they said.
Oh noes..
You don’t have a satelite do you? Cause you won’t get anything when it’s raining or snowing.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and we shall rise again.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Aug 10, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Crud!
My regular cable provider was just charging too much and thought I’d try a change. Free HBO, Showtime, and whatever for 3 months so thought I’d try it out. When they said “free football package” I freaked and probably was hasty!:)
That's where they get ya
It’s not all bad though. You can get a satelite upgrade so the breaking up’s not that bad, and the picture is far better than normal cable. I have Comcast, with free HBO for six months, free music channels forever, and I love it.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and we shall rise again.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
When it's absolutely pouring or in a blizzard
you’ll lose your signal for a bout 10-20 minutes.
DirecTV is the greatest, I’ve had it since 2004 and am never, ever going back to cable.
This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrisette had a baby and named it "this exact situation"--Sterling Archer
^^^ This
Directv is the bomb… and apparently they have channels other than the NFL network (or so I’ve heard)
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on Aug 11, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Abba :)
I’m always glad when regular readers enjoy the articles we post. Who knows, maybe next year we’ll have a DN reader gathering somewhere? Seems like we need to have a tailgate or some kind of gathering.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Basemant party!!!
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and we shall rise again.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Spelling fail, but you get the jist….
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and we shall rise again.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Aug 10, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I get the jist :D
A basement party would be great—I like the idea of an underground party.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
SOOO jealous
That’s pretty sweet that you two got a chance to get some 1st-hand info straight from the players. That’s awesome for this site and hopefully, those big purple and golden doors keep get opened up. Big props to the Vikings Organization for being ahead of the curve on all of this and allowing us fans a little bit further into the organization.
Skol!
The idea of doing real reporting and interviewing...
Rather than just reading what other writers had to say about things was both cool and a little daunting—I felt the pressure to get it right and give the people something they couldn’t get anywhere else. Of course, that kind of mindset is what had me asking Christian Ponder about his dog. Hmmm, better work on my interviewing skills.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
What do you call real reporting?
I can’t think of a site that does it better and I can think of many that do it worse (BR, Star Tribune).
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and we shall rise again.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Aug 10, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I mean first-hand reporting.
Rather than researching material from stuff other people have written. Feels cool :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Gotta say, or type, that was my fav post on the DN to date
Makes me want to take up a Training camp trip with Citrus & Co. next year! Awesome work! SKOL!
"I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it."
I thought we might get to meet Citrus...
But Ted said Citrus didn’t make the trek up to Mankato this year. Glad you liked this post—hopefully we’ll get more opportunities to give you more of the same :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Excellent job you two!!!
Like Chris said," wait till next year when you are all there". I say, DAMN SKIPPY"! You know, next year after the stadium bill has passed, the symbolic golden shovel has plunged into paydirt, LA roumors have been layed to rest (6ft. under), Minniapolis has finally stopped crying, and Larry Fitzgerald comes home to wear Purple (hopefully, fingers crossed). Just remember, if the “DN Crew” needs a photographer who wont crop Skol Girl behind JA, I’m your guy. Once again, wonderful job!! It’s a fine day for the DN!
Thanks Koller007!
Glad you liked the article. I dearly hope you’re right and that by this time next year all the anti-stadium hysteria is over. I heard on the news that the Vikings had bussed a bunch of Ramsey County politicians down to Mankato to spend the day at training camp. That would be enough to sell me on the deal, but politicians are strange.
You wouldn’t crop me behind JA? I actually didn’t mind that, thought it was fun to see just how much bigger he is. Guy stands a full foot taller than me! When I was talking to Erin Henderson I felt like I was standing in a hole and he isn’t even as tall as Jared Allen.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Politicians are strange!
I would hope someone would show them the article you wrote about the stadium issue. It might help them to see the situation a little clearer. Some poeple are born to trip over quarters to pick up nickles.
I thought action photos of the DN crew actually conducting interveiws with players would be a perfectly acceptable reason for a staff photographer!! ;)
They really are strange.
I don’t know whether showing them, in the clearest possible language, will make a difference to the politicians because they’re concerned about reelection.
Oooh, action photos! Well, sell it with the big-wigs and maybe I’ll see you in Mankato :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Grats to both of you
Ted and S.G. sounds as if you represented well,except for some skivies,but was nice read about your adventures hopefully a post with some pics coming forth.Maybe separate thoughts and posts of what it was like,take us Vike Fans that cant go into that world and show us thru your eyes.Well done and once again congrats.
Thanks Speedlod!
I know what you mean, this post definitely could have used more pictures. Ted posted some pictures and video in some of his other training camp stories. Next time I’ll take more pictures :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Np S.G.
Know you took time out of your life,to drop everything,and run,just please next time, you get do this tons of pics,your words are great but lol 1 picture is worth a thousand words.Anybody can write about subject,but pictures bring your reader close.always overshoot,not against you and Ted,but would rather had pics those wow and whoa moments.
Still your words brought me to that cliff,and envey.but lacked what I need as a Viking Fan,that doesnt have your luck,you need take me that next level.
Skol tho and grats hope it was wonderful
Did a fantasy football draft today
Took ap number 1 pick,longwell as my kicker and mcnabb as my backup qb to freeman with the last pick in the draft
A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan
by RaysOfHope on Aug 10, 2011 10:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sounds like you're going to have quite the fantasy team. Good luck!
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
I took collie over harvin
Didnt want too many vikings. That cost me a playoff game in 09 I had rice,favre and peterson vs I believe the panthers that year
A-rod's salary? 30 Million, Evan Longoria's? 1M, god i love life as a rays fan
by RaysOfHope on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
As a Red River Roughrider
I feel like I should have known that Ted spent some time on the “other” side of the river.
Awesome set of stories! You all did a wonderful job and I really appreciate the injection of fan perspective in the reporting – it adds a level of authenticity I don’t really get from other types of journalism. It’s great and it’s infectious. I’m extremely excited for the season to start.
A Rednecker, eh?
At least that’s what we called you guys back in my day, lol.
This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrisette had a baby and named it "this exact situation"--Sterling Archer
Unkie Ted read a few spaces below
Why I couldn’t reply directly to you in the first place…
Worse SB matchup ever!
Thanks Arif :)
Glad you liked having that fan perspective—I don’t think I could have managed anything more professional, I was just too excited to be there :) I’m really looking forward to the season starting too, and, for a change, I’m just as excited about preseason as I am about regular season games. Even though we lost only the Hall of Fame game to the lockout, it feels like it has been a decade since we’ve had football.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Thanks Bobcat!
I’m glad you enjoyed it, there were a few times when I had my doubts about combining all of our unwieldy impressions and memories :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Outstanding Coverage - thanks for sharing
One of my heroes, John Wayne once said (paraphrasing);
“COURAGE is being scared s###less but saddling up and doing it anyway.”
You guys certainly stepped up and got-er-done in true DN fashion that we the lowly readers have come to know and love. This is far more entertaining to read than any “old media” news site. you guys make us feel like family… so it is easy to swell with pride after reading your adventures.
Thank you again for sharing with us.
Vikings Valhalla .com
Glad you liked it :)
I suppose that if we got to cover training camp or games on a regular basis we might get used to stuff and it would lose that magic, but I hope not. I’m not sure about the guys, but I never set out to be a sports journalist and I’ve been amazed at how far sharing a fan perspective has gotten me. Glad you enjoyed this, DN wouldn’t be nearly as much fun without you and everyone else who make up our fantastic community.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
All I can say: awesome, and dammit.
The former for what an excellent job you two did, and the latter for not being able to go myself.
Next time, I’m in no matter what. You hear that, friends of mine?! No marriages, bachelor parties, or any other big life event during Vikings training camp, because I’m not coming—I’ll be in Mankato!
Proud contributor to Daily Norseman and SB Nation Minnesota. Tweeting here.
by Eric J. Thompson on Aug 11, 2011 1:10 PM CDT reply actions
That's right Eric, lay down the law with your friends!
No weddings, no parties, no babies—training camp is Eric time :)
Seemed like a shame to be in Mankato without you since you were at that meeting with me at Winter Park when the Vikings hedgingly suggested they might invite us to training camp. Next time, Gadget. Next time!
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Very good story
It really felt as if I was there with you, you both paint a wonderful picture. I couldn’t help but notice that this story was quite a bit more detailed than any of the interviews or insight on practice and whatnot. I understand the limited access you got, and you only had a couple of days, but I just thought that was a bit funny. Only giving you a hard time, I do truly enjoy the posts from all of the contributors on this siteas well as the comments . Keep up the great work everyone!
by A shot at greatness, probable failure on Aug 11, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, unfortunately we only got maybe two minutes
as the team was coming off the practice field. If you’re lucky, you get three questions, maybe four, and the answers these guys give, not surprisingly, are pretty concise and generally Duckies and Bunnies—you’ll never hear a guy say ‘this new offense we have sucks’, or Winfield won’t ever say ‘our secondary is going to be horrid’, so you have to take those quotes and do something more than make them stand alone. So for example, when I talked to Winfield, there just wasn’t enough there, so I regrouped and rolled it into a story about the whole secondary. With Robison and Allen, I made it a combined interview I put it on SB Nation Minnesota, because I asked them similar questions, and I was able to roll some of Robison’s quotes into a story about the defensive line in general.
But Kleinsasser? No, K-Sauce deserved his own article, because Awesome Jim Kleinsasser is Awesome.
This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrisette had a baby and named it "this exact situation"--Sterling Archer
Kleinsasser really is fantastic.
I forget how big he is because he’s usually standing next to offensive linemen who are half-a-foot taller than he is.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
It needs to be said Ted Glover
Your awesome. I know I havent been on hear as much as I’d like, but many things picking up in the Personal Training industry…
That’s right I’m a Personal Trainer and a damm good one. I love the Vikes and if I’m 3/4(half isn’t good enough, lol) the trainer that unckie Ted is a writer, I’ll be the best. Hope your holdin’ off the rust on the RAM/Viking hood of that truck…
Fired up about this season and looking for my first trip to Minny this year. I will try to email you when I come down and hope I can meet up with you. I’m sure you’d get a kick out of a Canadian Viking fan and not one of those from the super North, actually more South than you… Heck I’m 5 minutes outside Detroit.
Heads up on a new season and some McNabbian success!
Skol Girl your doing a great job as well!
I have a Viking erection right now as you can tell and won’t be missing Cindy Rice’s 1/4 healthy seasons, lol.
Worse SB matchup ever!
Thank you!
I was going to ask of that was a mouse in your pocket, but I guess you’re just happy to read me…
Thank you, thank you, I’m here all week.
This is like O. Henry and Alanis Morrisette had a baby and named it "this exact situation"--Sterling Archer
Thanks VikesPma!
Glad to hear you’re excited about the season. Feels like it has been longer than usual since we’ve had football and, when you want football, nothing else will do. Always cool to hear about Vikings fans from all over.
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
Blogs
I don’t read blogs that often. But when I do it’s on the Daily Norseman… SKOL Vikings my friends Awesome Awesome job SG and Ted
"Stay thristy my friend."
Glad you enjoyed this post and that the Daily Norseman is your blog drug of choice. I think we’re going to have an interesting season :)
Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin
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