Sorry Detroit Fans but....
by PAtxMADDENKING on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM CDT
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If you think for one second that the VIKINGS are going to allow some YOUNGSTERS to stroll into the Metro-dome and Defeat them.....you might wanna think again (tampa bay has already used that get out of jail free card, that will not happen again). Sorry detroit fans, but this game will be know as a STATEMENT game, TO YOU, and the rest of the league! I'm not going to waste my time with breaking down stats, and the Tampa bay game comparisons, because at the end of the day, none of that really matters. Don't get me wrong, the Lions look darn good, however it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that it takes more than just talent to win in the NFL....they will do pretty well for themselves this year, but to crown them is a little bit pre-mature. They will remember sunday's game as a REALITY CHECK! You heard it here 1st!
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Lions fan here
Well I can tell by your post you are a bit upset about being 0-2 when you feel you shouldn’t be. You might want to tone it down just a tad though, we have alot of weapons strolling into the Metro dome and with a healthy QB now were starting to be the team we should of been last year. I just think that reality check will be a little more for you rather than us. Best of luck to you though, CHEERS
It's a viking site, what do you expect. ;)
This is where homerism, optimism, all kinds of ism is expressed. If we do that to a Lions website, then it’s a whole different story.
Going back to topic…I think the x-factor for this game is Stafford Megatron Best Nate Burleson. IMO, one of the most underrated WR in the league.
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He has been very good for us
KC took Johnson away for most of the game, if you can call 2 TD’s taking him away. And Nate had almost 100 yards. Keep your eye on Young…
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Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
Burleson
Only because he’s a former Viking!!
Thanks for blowing my cover.
That’s the real reason of my pick.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
kevin williams
………………….and stafford goes down on a huge hit by williams…………in comes sean hill
by favre4204ever on Sep 22, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Stafford hasn't taken a sack yet this season
because he hasn’t faced a legitimate pass rush.
Say what you want about our inability to get to Rivers or Freeman in the second half so far, but the Vikings know they have to play Detroit again this season. They’ll be gunning hard for Stafford because they know the dirty play style Suh will bring. Look for Stafford to take a beating at every opportunity.
dirty play style of Suh?
Did you hear that on TV somewhere? Let me guess, it was in a clip on sports central. Ya that’s probably the key to success for the Vikings, sack Stafford before Suh gets dirty and hurts McNabb/Ponder/Webb. Stunning..
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
No… his multiple fines for late hits gave it away.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 23, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
False.
Stafford hasn’t taken a sack yet this season because he’s refused to. Several would be sacks were thrown away well and he avoided pass rushes with timely bootlegs.
Again, watch the games.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Yeah, it doesn’t really have anything to do with pass rush, it’s him getting the ball out quick and decent O-Line play.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 23, 2011 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
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Why would we watch all the Lions games?
Do you watch all the Vikings games?
The only legitimate pass rush threat you have faced this year is Tamba Hali of the Chiefs, the rest of the players on both teams combined for a total of 10.5 sacks last year. Not what I would call a real pass rush by any means.
Consider the fact that the Lions had a comfortable lead in the 2nd quarter of the Chiefs game, that pretty much takes Tamba Hali out of the equation because Stafford does not have to force any throws or hang onto the ball with such a large lead.
There are a lot of variables, but to say that it is false that you have not faced a legitimate pass rush is delusional.
by Bjorno on Sep 24, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't watch all of the VIkings games...
but I do watch about half of them. I watch games from a lot of teams besides Detroit because I am a football fan. I watch teams inside the division a little more often than those outside.
Regardless, the point is still valid. A lot of the opinions flying around about the Lions are not really based on what the Lions have actually done this season. They are vague impressions from seeing highlights and reading the national press. If you are using those to form an opinion, you will be far away from understanding what is really happening with the Lions.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
What point?
It is not opinion that your team has not faced a legitimate pass rush threat this year.
Like I said before, Tamba Hali is the only guy you faced who even smells of pass rush, and he was neutralized for most of the game due to the comfortable lead you had.
If you are using those to form an opinion, you will be far away from understanding what is really happening with the Lions.
The same could be said for any NFL team. Unless you are a die-hard fan of said team, you are not going to spend the time looking into the intricacies that might help you better understand how good the team could be.
I watched the Bucs game, yes.
And I was saying your logic was false. Your friend’s logic, and I’m quoting him here, was:
Stafford hasn’t taken a sack yet this season
because he hasn’t faced a legitimate pass rush.
Notice that word “because”? That’s a causal relationship. He hasn’t a taken a sack BECAUSE he hasn’t faced a legitimate pass rush. Which is, as I said, patently false. He hasn’t taken a sack because of good pocket movement and good o-line play.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Its going to be a tenacious game.
A Vikings team thats desperate for a win, with alot of frustration built up from 2 games that slip out of their hands. A defense that is returning its base to its structure (Mr. Kevin Williams) that has alot to prove. The Lions won’t be the first athletic team its faced but it’ll be the first team its faced with no physical run game presence.
A Lions team thats got a confident and hot Quarterback that has a city and team thats got alot of good spirit and momentum its lacked for a long time. A defensive line thats able to control the line of scrimmage.
Crazy things happen when a team has its back against the wall and the other is feeling unbeatable after a Chiefs stomping. Plus, its the first division game for both teams. Its going to be testy out there. i’m expecting lots of yellow flags.
SKOL
I like the positive vibe MADDENKING.
Anthing can happen at this point. The Vikings have been beating the Lions at home for a loooooooong time. Maybe they haven’t gotten the message that things will be any different this time around.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
I though someone posted 17 straight wins.
More beat downs from the Packers than that?
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 21, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, that was 11 straight wins and 18 of the last 20 matchups with the Lions.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 21, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Well....
When you’ve lost as many times as your franchise has, its hard to differentiate between the crappy seasons.
Sucks to have to look backward versus forward when....
you got nothing to look forward to, huh? I’ve been there. Thankfully, I have something to look forward to…….. ;)
Oh I remember Thinking like that
Your right we have had some really bad seasons in the PAST, but now were in the FUTURE and the sweet can’t be that sweet without tasting some sour. You guys are about to taste some sour…
We need a trash talk thread
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 21, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes you do have something to look forward to...
And that is which week will Stafford go down with another injury.
Week 5.
2027, in his 18th season, the last year of his hall of fame career. :)
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Here here to that
I agree with you 100%, it will be testy. I don’t think we have to worry about Gos and Allen holding hands before the game playing kissy face. : )
yeah...
that’s pretty much NOT gonna happen.
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It will be up to our team to...
back up all the hype and sensationalism, but there is no doubt to me that they can. The Chiefs fans… as awesome as they were… were thinking just like you. They were telling us that it was a fluke and that one game means nothing and all that. While that is typically true, take this from a hardcore fan that has watched a LOT of Lion football over the years…. there is no fluke here. Granted, home field advantage DOES mean something, but you also have to be better than the team coming to town. Are the Vikings better than the Lions right now? If you are unbiased…. not a chance.
The Vikings better bring their “A” game and hope that the Lions have an off-day…. because that is the only way that you win. Not being cocky or arrogant, I am just looking at the x’s and o’s and the matchups I see between the two teams. This Lions team is one that was built the right way and at this moment in time, doesn’t have a lot of glaring weaknesses or anything that they can’t adjust to or overcome in-game. They are built to score and while your running game is great, by the third quarter, it will be obsolete….. then you are relying on a quarterback with a 71.2 rating that has looked pretty lost this season.
The Lions could easily shoot themselves in the foot with a slew of penalties or turnovers or other errors, but that is unlikely…. and that is what it will take for the Lions to lose. Mano-a-mano, this is the team and matchup we Lions’ fans have been waiting for. So long Metrodome losing streak….. hello 3-0!!!!
by DrewsLions on Sep 21, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is A matchup I've been waiting for but not THE matchup.
That would be Chicago on Monday Night so we can show the nation we are for real and aren’t the doormat of the NFL anymore.
1 win and it could be a fluke. 2 wins the way we have had them, it’s still possible to be a fluke. 3 wins, including 2 on the road, then I doubt you can call it a fluke. But when we host the Bears at 5-0 and man handle them everyone will figure out what we Lions fans know, we have arrived and will punish all those who laughed at us during the worst stretch of football ever.
Sorry for that but I’m defiantly fired up and ready for this game and our other 13.
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Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
by Enforcer on Sep 21, 2011 2:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Good for you!
The Lions have been so bad for so long. Glad you have a team that’s exciting to root for. Detroit needs that right now. Michigan needs that now. My personal preference, as much as I like the city of Chicago, would be for the Vikes to beat the Lions in the NFC Championship game. Would that not be cool, to have the NFC North takeover the NFC Championship game with 4 different teams in 2 years?
TiggerSr
True, and to the person comparing the Vikes w/ the Chiefs?
If Winfield AND Peterson both go down with ACL tears, then we’d be like the Chiefs, but there not and we’re not. Hope Detroit enjoyed beating up on the single most beat up team in the NFL last week because this team is fresh and ready to go. 35-17 Purp! SKOL!
Skol!
Um, you LOST to one of those teams.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
No, sir, you're wrong.
I was talking about KC. The Lions beat up on KC. The lions didn’t beat up on TB. Sure, we lost to TB, but they’re a fairly solid team and I would put all 3 of our teams in that ballpark(TB, Det, MN) talent-wise. My Point: KC sucks. Don’t plan your SB trip because you beat them down.
Skol!
We BEAT UP Tampa Bay.
Did you watch the game?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
For the love of kittens, read the whole post!
He was talking about Kansas Chiefs.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 25, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
So did we the first half...
I think that’s what we’re trying to say…
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
So you watched the game?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
You are seriously equating us with the freakin chiefs?
Good luck with that. The fact is if the Vikings play the whole game instead of just half of it they will beat you. The comparison doesn’t hold water.
by Adam Sorum on Sep 21, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope... not your team, just...
how you are viewing us as a fluke team or that somehow just being in the Metrodome is enough to will a win over us.
The comparison I am making is based on one thing…. TALENT. That’s it. That’s the only thing that really matters here. I don’t care if we are playing in Minnesota, Detroit, Siberia or in the middle of the Sahara desert…. it comes down to matchups and talent.
No doubt you guys are a much better team than the Chiefs, but don’t be so quick to sell us short… Metrodome or not.
Never said you were a fluke team, I just believe the team we saw in the first half of the Chargers and Bucs game will beat your team.
If the first halves of games equalled wins....
the Lions would have gone 11-5 last year. That’s not how it works. Best in 60… not 30. The reason that the Vikes are 0-2 is the fact that they have been unable to make adjustments and they are unbalanced. The Lions are going to throw the kitchen sink offensively at the Vikes and it should be fun to watch.
I’m not sure how much water this statement holds….
I just believe the team we saw in the first half of the Chargers and Bucs game will beat your team.
Hmmm.... I wouldn't be so sure about that.
In fact, I would say you are wrong. But, I guess we’ll find out Sunday… if the Vikings can play their best for 60 mins instead of 30……….
We've had enough changing parts in the last two years
Personally, I doubt we can bring out A-game for 60 min at this stage of the season. I only say that above because 1: I think that’s what the other guy was trying to point out and 2: we’ve got a lot of guys that are still in their peak, but they’ve got more experience that the Lions. This weekend we probably find out more about Detroit than the Vikes. There’s no doubt Detroit’s team is structured for some scale of greatness soon, but this is the most expectations they’ve had in a long time. If they have truly arrived, they should win fairly decisively. If they’re still approaching their arrival, then the Vikes win.
Skol!
mmm....
I am a die-hard Vikings fan and I have a hard time agreeing with that sentiment.
Stafford is better than McNabb, Ponder or Webb at this point in his career.
It is hard to argue that Calvin Johnson is not a top-2 wideout and I would only place Percy in the top 15, maybe creeping into the top 10.
N’DonkeyKong is on par with Kevin Williams, but has youth on his side.
AP? Well… I don’t need to say anything about that.
I don’t know the Lions O-Line that well, but they are probably not worse than ours.
Ends? Jared Allen has the edge there… the rest is a wash.
I think I can comfortably say that Winfield is better than any DB the Lions have, but I can’t say the same for the rest of our secondary.
EJ and Greenway have the edge as well as far as LB’s are concerned.
Objectively, we should have the edge on defense by a decent margin and our running game is by far better, but the lions pass well and we are not that great against the pass.
My prediction: 21-7 Vikes at the half, 31-28 Vikes in the end. But that is only because we are at home.
Well, I can see how you might feel that way, but...
You are probably comparing the Vikings against the Lions from last season.
The Lions defensive line is widely recognized as being one of the top tho or three in the NFL. The Vikings used to be at that level, but are not any longer. Robison and Ayodele are still a step down from Edwards and Pat Williams. I am not saying they cannot get better. I am saying they are not at that level yet, and they are not likely to suddenly find it for the Lions. I agree that Jared Allen is better than Vanden Bosch at this point in KVBs career.
Overall I still place the Lions defensive line above that of the Vikings because the Lions have far more depth. The DTs have a four deep rotation and so do the DEs for Detroit. That keeps the Lions defensive line fresh for the entire game because nobody has to play a ton of snaps. That usually creates a situation where the Lions get more pressure on the QB late in games because they tire out the opposing offensive line. Nick Fairley has started practicing again and you guys will probably see him in the game we play you are Ford Field.
I agree that Chad Greenway is very good. E.J. Henderson is also a good player, but not better than Stephen Tulloch. Justin Durant is also pretty good and Deandre Levy is a better player than you realize. Overall the Vikings have the best linebacker in the bunch with Greenway, but once again, the Lions have more depth. That includes being able to bring Bobby Carpenter off the bench, who has played very well for the Lions.
I will agree that Antoine Winfield is the best linebacker on either team, if age has not caught up to him. Once you get past Winfield, all of the Lions secondary players are better than anybody on the Vikings. Eric Wright has been very good for the Lions and looks like he did in his first two seasons in Cleveland. Chris Houston is also playing very well and looks like he is better than he was last season, and he was good last season. Delmas and Spievey are going to emerge as one of the premier young safety tandems in the league over the course of the season.
What I am saying is that the Vikings defense is not as much better than the Lions defense as you think. In fact, I think you guys have some BIG surprises coming. You may find that the Lions have a far better defense than you are giving them credit for.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Widely recognized....
if you had Fairley playing this week. Prior to drafting him, the only player I ever heard about on your line was Suh, and prior to drafting Suh I only heard about how many games you lost. That is not a veiled insult, I am just telling you what I have seen or heard, and I tend to watch a lot of football highlights.
The loss of Pat Williams is a blow, but I wouldn’t be so sure Brian Robison is as step down from Ray Edwards. Edwards looked better than he actually was because he was on the line with Jared Allen and the Williams wall.
That is the same reason he won his Boxing bout, because he had a significant advantage over his opponents. He had 3 beasts on the line taking attention away from him on the field, and he was 8" taller and weighed 45 pounds more than his opponent in the ring.
Robison is about on par with Ray Edwards, and he has more upside.
We do have a rotation as well on the line, With Everson Griffen and Christian Ballard, among others rotating in on a regular basis as well. This also keeps them fresh, and can get more pressure later in the game.
I think the teams match up rather well, but you have the edge through the air on both sides of the ball.
If you won't say it, then I will
f-l-u-k-e …. fluke
They barely beat TB and beat a KC team that sucks. Maybe another year or two and they could be solid if Stafford can stay healthy.
Barely beat TB?
In what way? Did you watch the game?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
I'm sure he didn't.
That’s why I said these guys are acting just like some of the KC fans (not all of them)…. but they are looking past us. It’s fine, really. I’ll just be pumped to come back to this site Sunday night and Monday to see everyone reeling…..
LOL, another guy that looks at a scoreboard and spews
There is no way that anybody could have watched that game and said we barely beat Tampa Bay.
http://www.bucscentral.com/game-previews/bucs-vs-vikings-week-2-matchups
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-fbn-lions-newss11b3e5fa1-20110911,0,3321529.story
I can give you more links if you want from papers all over America that say the Lions beat the Buccaneers a lot worse than the score indicated. The only reason the game was close is because of mistakes by the Lions themselves. The Lions spotted Tampa Bay ten points on mistakes and kept them in the game with dumb penalties. The difference is that the Lions are good enough to beat the Bucs despite making mistakes and the Vikings aren’t.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Sounds a lot like what happened in our game with the Bucs...
but the difference was that we lost.
We made plenty of stupid plays, they got lucky with a few plays (on-side kick), and we had some bad penalties as well. So really the outcome is the only difference.
We were on the road, and you guys weren't not to mention it was 78% humidity and 90 degrees out.
And we both know MI and MN are not that hot and humid this time of year!
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 22, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Was it "78% humidity and 90 degrees" for the Bucs team too?
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
they would be more used to playing in the heat
conditioning wise. Honestly though the Lions won the game while making mistakes feel happy about the win and work on the mistakes..
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Thanks.
Heat doesn’t give you that much of an advantage. Snow and cold on the other hand…
With heat. All you need is to hydrate. The technology nowadays is ridiculous. NFL players now takes a pill, and with that pill, the trainer can check the body’s temp through their scanner.
Oh yeah, the highlight run of AP against the browns. That was after he got the IV.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that why Nate Burleson who was hydrating for a week could not play for a whole quarter?
How about Josh Freeman having to leave and get an IV and actually miss a series. Are yo-u a medical doctor that was treating people at that game? Because if not then please don’t speak on it like you actually know what happened, because you clearly do not.
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You just made my point! Thank you.
How about Josh Freeman having to leave and get an IV and actually miss a series
It affects both teams.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It did, but the thing is, the Lions defense was on the field for over 11 minutes of the fourth quarter with 1:35 to go
The point is, that the environmental conditions played a lot into our let down and limited play calling. Some Bucs had cramps, mainly Freeman and Talib. The Lions had far more effected players though, pretty much our entire defense in the 4th, and most of our passing offense in the 3rd quarter. You would have to watch the entire game and not be a Vikings fan to be objective about it, because I can tell from the comments here that you have already made your mind up, and will stick to your guns no matter what at this point.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Let me clarify
Our offense took their foot off the gas in the 3rd quarter and almost exclusively ran the ball, when our passing game is our strength. We had to play left handed on offense.
Our defense was stuck on the field in the 4th quarter and had to play a non aggressive prevent style because players did not have the ability to play a more high energy style.
Freeman got his IV long before the 4th quarter, for all I know it was preventative maintenance and a masterful move to have him good to go in the 4th quarter. And for all you know that could be the case too.
Conversely in the Bucs comeback to you, where you lost at home, and we won on the road I might add, there were no such issues. In fact you had the home field advantage and still lost to them.
And yes, for the record I do believe home field gives an advantage. And yes you will get some. In my eyes it will help keep the game close but I don’t think the Bucs will pull an upset with just that advantage alone. You will also need A. P. and or Gerhart to have solid games, and you will need much more from your passing game than you have been able to produce so far. At that point I think it will come down to clock management. Something I am not so sure Leslie Frazier has a grasp on.
If all of that goes your way then sure, you could pull the upset, but it would be an upset.
There are also other factors like bad calls, injuries, and bad penalties and turn overs that can turn almost any game in the NFL. That stuff is just too hard to predict, hence the any given Sunday nature of the NFL.
Sure things “could” happen to give the Vikings a win, and it is not all that far fetched. However, on paper, with a normal game and even intangible effects on both teams, the Lions should win. That is why the games are played though yah know. If the game was played on paper then the Eagles would have won the super bowl right after free agency, and I think all knowledgeable football fans know better than to crown any team.
But hey, if you want to crown the Vikings then crown their ass, but I say they are who we thought they were!
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Correct me if I'm wrong.
a.How come the Lions only won by a TD?
b. One of you answered: Due to heat and humidity
c. My reaction: LOL, It affects both teams doesn’t it.
d. You proved my point when you said that Freeman and Talib had cramps too.
Why they only won by 7?This was the answer I was looking for:
Our offense took their foot off the gas in the 3rd quarter and almost exclusively ran the ball, when our passing game is our strength. We had to play left handed on offense
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say that is pretty accurate
A lot of people were upset about it, called Scott Linehan too conservative, but when I went back and watched the game for about the 4th or 5th time I didn’t see anything wrong with the play calling.
Honestly if the Vikings continue to improve, because there was an improvement from game one to two with you guys, especially in the passing game, and the Lions have a letdown, then yeah, its gonna be a lot closer than some might think.
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Cheers to a crampless game!
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The rest of what you said was a waste of space.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You are so personable. NOT!
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Cry me a river.
Is it really necessary to start name calling?
OK, I am done with you now. This is turning into kiddie time.
Why don’t you go back to our argument and admit that I’m right. Whilie you’re at it, leave a Rec’ too.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't think that would matter...
as it seems that there are at least few Lions fans over here stating that the home field is no advantage for the Vikings…so that must be true for the Bucs as well.
Can’t play that card both ways.
I think the point is...
that you couldn’t beat a team at home, that we beat on the road and under tougher conditions that you had at the Hubiedome.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
I don't think anyone here actually thinks you're fluke team
Remember we’re in the same division as you and most of us are pretty football knowledgeable. Honestly a lot of us have been waiting the last couple of seasons for you guys to break out. Biggest thing that seemed to hold you back was Stafford and your secondary. Now that you have both of those things patched up I’m not surprised your turning he league on it’s ear.
However, with that said this is a division game and nothing is for certain. Crap teams can beat great ones in division (especially at home), and I honestly don’t think the Vikes are a crap team. Every week our team comes together a little more, maybe this is the week it all snaps together.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
read above...
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
well in the same vein some of you came across pretty strongly
and you can’t expect a strong Vike blog like this not to raise up in arms against something like that.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Detriot has proven nothing yet.
Yeah we all know that the Loins are the trendy pick to do things this year. They finally got their head out of their ass after 10 years of top ten picks. So after 2 solid games I realize you Lions fans have to puff out your chest & make a little noise. Well good for you. Just remember another Stafford injury & you can kiss your playoff hopes good bye. Things change fast in this league. The Vikes may not win the division but you will have to earn you victory’s against them.
Not true at all
If Shawn Hill started on Sunday I’d easy bet the Lions to win, we have a smart GM, have a injury prone QB have a great back up, which we do. PS, Hill won his last 4 starts of last season, and could easliy out play McNabb for his spot on you team… Sorry just sayin…
lol wow you guys really are getting into the swing of things
Pretty soon you’ll be like Cowboy fans just expecting to beat people because God loves you more. Hey I’m all for cocky fans, I just hope your team feels the same way.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
You expect to beat people because....
you are at home. No?
Last year, we beat you WITH SHAUN HILL…. geez. We beat GB with Drew Stanton. Yeah…. how in the hell did I come up with this cockamamie notion????
No I'msaying that being at home does affect games
Not hard to understand.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Sure it does.
But if that’s what your hanging your hat on……. ummmmm, good luck?
Talent wins games… not stadiums with loud fans. That stuff helps good teams win close games, but it doesn’t make up for talent deficiencies…
You are correct
But I disagree with you when you state your team completely 100% out talents us. Yes you killed KC but then so did the Bills and I doubt people are picking them to win the super bowl. You also beat Tampa, we lost to them it was a much closer match up on both sides of the ball there though. I don’t think this will be an easy game, but one thing I’ve learned from watching football a long time is that you can never completely guess division games. Teams just play tougher during them. If we were KC yeah I would not see us having a chance at a win. We aren’t KC though, and as division rivals it’s always interesting to see how things pan out. I remember games where the lions beat the vikes in the past where I thought it was a slam dunk win for sure.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Are you absolutely certain that you are not underestimating the Bills as well?
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Edmund Fitzgerald
Is developing into a very fine QB. I wish we had him to tell the truth. Great video here>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0DqPSF2fyo&NR=1
Lions = Bills but with more hype than the Bills
An offense that can always keep up, but a defense that will be exposed at some point. They look solid so far, but I remember plenty of lions teams starting 4-2; 5-1, whatever and not making the playoffs so good luck on your super bowl victory in september, I’ll be watching the game on Sunday.
Skol!
LoL most ridiculous statement ever
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 23, 2011 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK, OK, so you got Suh on defense
one man does not a defense make. How in the hell do you think your defense is all-world now? You played TB(slightly above-avg offense) and KC(possibly the worst offense in the league w/OUT their #1 threat)
Skol!
Good.
Keep thinking our defense is just one guy. Your offense will have no problem against us. :)
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
+1
You know…we don’t have Corey WIlliams or Cliff Avril or KVB or Louis Delmas or Stephen Tulloch….nope those players sure don’t suit up honolulu blue :)
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OK OK, I wasn't very accurate about the Bills=Lions
I was comparing how they can score a ton of points and their seasons are fairly similar through 2 games. Both beat up the Chiefs and both had relatively close games VS middle of the road teams. My point is that the question mark for the Lions ultimately is the defense, right? The offense will get their 25+ pts, right? They can score with the best of them, but their defense hasn’t truly been tested yet this year. I’m in no way saying that the Vikings offense will be the barometer either, but I’m pointing out that they’re not a shutdown defense yet or at least they haven’t had the opposition to prove it anyways. Unfortunately for the Vikes, our strength matches up with Det’s strength(run V runDef) and our weakness(pass V passDef). If the vikings can throw the ball, it’ll be an interesting game(i predict a lot of points)
Skol!
Dm Purp
have you started working on a list of reasons for what went wrong this Sunday? I’ll help you out:
- the Lions got lucky
- the refs sucked and gave the game to them
- sure they did well but if Stafford had gotten injured they would suck
- Suh played dirty, that line really isn’t all that tough
and if none of those things are doing it for you try this:
- who cares anyway, I don’t, this team is going to be gone soon anyway
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
Exactly!
Vikings smoked the worst team in football that season at the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome
Vikings 12 – Lions 10.
The Lions had to start their second string QB, but given the large margin of victory some people would argue that it did not matter who was starting at QB for the Lions.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Deal,
I’ll look out for my arm and you look out for the Metrodome falling on your head.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 23, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not funny. That's a real concern. Shit's falling apart all over the place in that dump.
Skol!
Thanks for letting me know
I was considering picking up some tickets for the game on StubHub since there is a lake freighter load in the $6.00 to $10.00 range , but now I think I’ll pass.
I originally thought tickets were so cheap because nobody wanted to see the Lions, but now I realize that there is a safety concern.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 23, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget the BS non call on Calvin that cost us that game too
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Interesting that was the only thing you got out of my comment.
And no I think the Bills are an interesting team, Fitz is an excellent QB that people consistently underestimate and I just can’t see why. I do think KC is that bad of a team though.
In the end we lost to Tampa at home so until we step up and prove that we’re a better team than that I guess that’s the game we’ll be graded on.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Question
How many of the last 4 games last year did Stafford play? 0 that’s what I though. how many were against the soon to be Super Bowl champs? That’s right 1.
Not just 2 solid games. We have won our last 6 only 2 of which Matt has played. Just saying.
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Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
POD football fantasy league?
Do you really think people care about the standings of you fantasy league that your signature needs to burn 14 lines of screen space?
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 21, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
No
Dont care either. More of a reminder to Sean he is 0-2 after back to back titles.
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
its a marathon not a sprint
good reminder right about now…
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I know and I'm not getting too confident right now either
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
Clearly,
If AP would have played last year at Ford Field, Vikings would have won easily.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 21, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Best back in the league. It's always a different ballgame.
If you’re so cocky about your SuperBowl champion 2-0 Lions, then how about Detroit plays this game with Stafford(might not have a choice after the first quarter)
Skol!
How is AP a reality check?
That’s like us saying watch out Calvin is gonna make your secondary’s butt hurt from the spanking he is going to give them.
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
You will have a reality check come Sunday
It’s called Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Jahvid Best, Brandon Pettigrew, Tony Scheffler, Will Heller, Titus Young, Maurice Stovall, Rashied Davis, Keiland Williams, Maurice Morris, Ndamukong Suh, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Cliff Avril, Stephen Tulloch, DeAndre Levy, Chris Houston, Eric Wright, Amari Spievey, Jason Hanson, Ryan Donahue, John Wendling, Louis Delmas, Justin Durant…
It takes a team.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Who lists their punter?
I’m sorry. We have the most kickass punter in the history of punters, but I wouldn’t even list Warcraft.
Skol!
Well, I listed Hanson.
So it would only be fair. Donahue’s been really impressive this year though!
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Go Hawks! Gotta admit I've got love for Spievey too.
In this game, I prefer Greenway and Ballard though.
Skol!
you missed some players....
From the injury report:
Mikel LeShoure Aug 15, 2011 injured-reserve Torn left Achilles tendon
Johnny Culbreath Sep 3, 2011 injured-reserve Undisclosed
Alphonso Smith Sep 16, 2011 Out Foot
Louis Delmas Sep 16, 2011 Questionable Hip
Calvin Johnson Sep 16, 2011 Questionable Ankle
Maurice Stovall Sep 16, 2011 Questionable Hand
Jason Fox Sep 16, 2011 Out Foot
Just wanted to make sure you were thorough. Word!?@!
Nick Fairley
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
by J.RO on Sep 22, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Calvin Stovall and Delmas were all on my list.
Because they’ll all play. =p You’re right though, Scott Kooistra is totally going to be pivotal to your victory.
????
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
iowaron: how many teams would you guarantee to go to the playoffs if they lost their starting QB right now?
what’s that, none? k, thanks..
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
No doubt Lions are a good team today.
But the X-factors are still there..Stafford is your strength and your weakness…it takes just one mistake from his protection. Not saying it will or should happen (I like him..honestly) but X-factor…also who knows..maybe McNabb will wake up on the other side of the bed and give us a career game..or …I heard one Mr. Peterson had some190 yards last time…The point is don’t get cocky (both the teams)..just wait, watch and enjoy. This one is going to be good.
I agree neither fanbase should get cocky
But did you see what we did to Mac5 last year? He had to be pulled for Rex Grossman. REX GROSSMAN. I mean come on Shanny let him stay in.
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Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
by Enforcer on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes izzie, I visited pride of detroit..
and one of their own fans is worried about Stafford being a “glassman”. They had better protect Stafford better than our o-line protected Favre in 2010.
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by JethroBoViking on Sep 21, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If you are basing a win on....
the hopes of Stafford getting hurt….. hahahaha. The very vocal minority at POD is starting to get drowned out by the reality that Stafford’s injuries have been fluke plays… not because he is “injury prone”. And by the fact that he has really bulked up and his shoulder is better than ever thanks to the magical hands of one Dr. James Andrews. He has taken hits this year already… he is fine. Although I should mention that he has not been sacked at all. Zero. Zilch.
I’m telling you, these are not your Daddy’s Lions…….
Our pass rush is better than KC's and Tb's
Allen, Williams and Robinson are all very good at rusing the passer and you cant double all 3 of them, Letroy Guion should start reaping the benefits on passing downs of Williams coming back. Not saying we will get a sack, but i think its more likely we get one against you than TB or KC.
Interesting.
TB was pretty confident in their pass rush too. Then KC (you know, Tamba Hali) was confident they were better than TB.
Will Dallas (Ware) be confident that their pass rush is better than yours, KC’s, and TB’s? Will Chicago (Peppers) be confident that their pass rush is better than Dallas’s, yours, KC’s, and TB’s? Turning into a pretty slippery slope. Let’s put it this way, if the only reason you’re confident in beating us is because you hope to end Stafford’s season, than I’d say that bodes pretty well for our chances.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Oh come on. Tampa Bay has 2 rookies starting at their DE spots. And KC’s only good pass rusher is Hali, and I wouldn’t say he’s dominate or anything — just very good.
As much as I hate Jared Allen, he’s a great speed rusher and has ALWAYS given the Lions, and Backus fits. Williams is probably the best DT in the league, and while I didn’t see the Vikes last week, I was actually pretty impressed by Robsion in week 1.
You Lions fans seem awfully confident which is fine and understandable but lets not act like you’ve beaten some of the best teams in the league this season or something. The Chiefs are horrible, and will be lucky to win more than 2-3 games this season. And I’d say the Bucs in a similar position to you guys. They have some young talent but still have to prove that they can play with the big boys (pretty sure they had 1 win against a team with a winning record last season).
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by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Williams is the best DT in the league? Really?
Hmm, I think Haloti Ngata might disagree, as would Ndamukong Suh. Sure Kevin Williams is a fine defensive tackle. But like most of the Vikings best players, he is past his prime. The Vikings are a team that is just trying to put together one or two more good seasons before everybody gets too old and the wheels start coming off.
Kevin Williams, E.J. Henderson, Antoine Winfield, Donovan McNabb, Visanthe Shiancoe, Steve Hutchinson, Michael Jenkins, and Bernard Berrian are all on the downhill side of their careers. I am not saying they are done. I am saying that the VIkings have a lot of pieces to replace over the next few seasons, while those guys are declining.
Even Adrian Peterson may not have more than a few more years given how quickly the tread wears on running backs. That is the risk you take when you build your team on a running back in the NFL.
Rick Spielman has already started the process, to his credit. Christian Ponder, Kyle Rudolph, Brandon Fusco, Toby Gerhart, Phil Loadholt, and several more guys are all being developed to become standout players of the future. We just don’t know yet how good they can be.
The Vikings have ridden their horses so long that even some of their emerging “young” players are getting older. Remi Ayodele and Brian Robison are 28 and just emerging from the shadows.
I understand the point you are making. You are trying to put the young bucks back in their place. Fair enough. There is also no need for fans from other teams to write articles that call us out either. Sorry but when you post an article with a title like this one you are inviting people to come over and argue.
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What makes you think Williams is on the downside of his career? I’d strongly argue that. And Winfield just had the best season of his career this past season.
Regardless, I didn’t say ONE word about players declining. In fact, you didn’t respond to a single word I said. None of your response was in ANY way relevant to my post, which is exactly what you did to Westchester below so it doesn’t surprise me too much.
My ONE and only point was that you ARE going to see a better pass rush from the Vikings. Neither the Bucs and Chiefs have anybody that’s comparable to Allen or Williams. The two of them, particularly Allen, have been Lion killers over the years. And while you have a much improved offense, that OL hasn’t changed much and is still shaky imo.
I’m not trying to put “the young bucks back in there place”. It just seems like you guys feel you’re an elite team or something, and I think it’s way too early for that.
Whoever wrote this article hardly is a representative of this sight or something. I’ve been a member here for a while and used to come here quite a bit, and I can tell you that the author of this post isn’t one of the regulars.
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by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I think we are both stating opinions. In that context my opinion has exactly the same probability of being right as yours. It is a 50/50 proposition.
As for responding to your post, I responded to the parts that I disagreed with and told you why. Just because you seem to need positive reinforcement from others to validate yourself is not my problem.
I added some other points only because they were on my mind and I got them out there. Just because the post is a reply to you does not necessarily mean that every point has to be in context to your statement.
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To packaliday555: Your argument is invalid. ;)
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy moly, I guess so haha!
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
What does your first paragraph even mean?
No, not every point has to be in context but it’d be nice if at least say, half of them were. From the looks of it, you took me saying Kevin Williams is the best DT in the league, and decided you’d go off on a tangent about all the players that have that are in decline.
I’m sorry, but what did that have to do with me telling Mavryk that the Vikings would be the best pass rush the Lions will see so far?
If you want my opinion on your response, I’d guess that you didn’t have much to say back because you’re probably well aware that the Vikings will provide a better than either the Bucs or Chiefs. So, you found literally one sentence to respond to about Kevin Williams, and turned it into a whole conversation about declining.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Did I miss something here?
Because last I checked, the NFL had a show on with the top 100 players, voted on by the players, Suh was #51 on the list, and that is of all players not just DT’s, Kevin Williams was not even on the list ;)
I think it is pretty clear that your opinion is biased and you just want to stir some stuff up or express a seriously homer slant towards teh Viking, whatever.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
He's a Packers fan. How the hell is that homerish?
It’s ok Pack555, I’ll take care of this one. They’re in the same ballpark(suh and Kwill). Suh is the new girl with the curl and for some is already the best DT in the NFL. Personally, I say that statement seems more “flavor of the month”ish, but I’m undoubtedly a homer so whatever. Either way, it doesn’t matter because it’s not like they line up across from eachother.
Skol!
I am not Biased on Suh
I would put him as 2nd or 3rd best, maybe even 4th but I dont put Kwill in the top 5 anymore even.
Haloti Ngata is hands down the best DT in the league, that guy is on a 3 man front doing what others get acclaim for on a 4 man front.
After him I think Vince Wilfolk may be slightly ahead of Suh, but at some point in the next few years Suh will pass him up.
So for now Suh 3rd, maybe 2nd by the end of this year, so far Wilfolk looks like he will have some mileage added by New England switching to a 4-3.
And my 4th best DT in the league, Pack should be familair with, Cullen Jenkens IMO at this point in time is hands down better than Kwill.
I think there are a handful of other guys that I would discuss before Kwill too, probably dropping him to the 8ish range. Guys like Justin Smith on the 49ers and Darnell Dockett of the Cardinals and even Tyson Alualu from Jacksonville who I think is highly underrated. So you get my drift, and my homerism is not about Pack with the Vikings, it is specific to Kwill. Dude has a man crush on him or something because it is not an objective view at all. He is not anywhere even close to the best DT in the league.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Madden ratings
K-will = 97
Suh = 89
Boom!
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Even more impressive..
When a clearly sarcastic statement is taken seriously.
…rick roll…
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Uh.
Second in sacks last year. Tamba Hali is absolutely dominant. And who cares if Tampa Bay has two rookies starting? Can rookies not rush the passer? Usually pass rushing rookies are pretty solid at it, they just can’t play run support for crap.
Yes, Jared Allen is a great player (as much as I dislike him as a person) and will give Backus fits. Tamba gave Backus fits too and came out goose-egg in the sack department.
I really would disagree strongly that Wiliams is the best DT in the league.
We’re not acting like we’ve beaten some of the best teams in the league this season. We’re acting like we’ve dominantly beaten two teams that we’re better than, both on the road and at home, and nothing I see out of Minnesota tells me that we’re not going to see the same thing week 3.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
And the best of luck to your team too, my friend.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Sure, they can rush the passer but they’re still rookies. Does either compare to Jared Allen?
I just found your original argument pretty weak. It basically implied that because the fans’ of the two previous teams you played thought that their pass rush was going to be strong — and ended up essentially being a non-factor. That, you just figured the Vikings pass rush would be a non factor too. As well as Dallas’ and Chicago’s.
The one thing the Vikings defense does best is get after the QB. And for years now, they’ve done so against the Lions. Yeah, you have Stafford, that should help things. But your OL hasn’t changed much over the years. They’ve been susceptible in the past, and probably still will be.
If he’s not the best in the league, then he’s easily top 3.
What you’re acting like is arrogant, to be frank. If you really think you’re going to dominate the Vikings, so be it. I just think you’ll be in for a rude awakening when the game on Sunday is a pretty evenly matched one.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am fully willing to admit that the Lions are not likely to keep having zero sacks.
It very well could be the Vikings that get the first one. You will need a lot more than one to win though.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Being a Vikings fan(picture and name make this obvious, don't know why i pointed that out)
It’s not so much about sacks as it is about getting consistent pressure. Sacks can ruin a drive, but constant pressure causes turnovers and keeps a QB off their game. I don’t mind if Detroit walks away still not giving up any sacks on the season, but if the vikings pressure Stafford and get him throwing jump passes and hurrying his throws, we’ll take the W.
Skol!
correct about the pressures
and that’s a worry for the Lions, and Lions fan. Last week was a great example of luck in the face of the pressure. Stafford showed he can handle the pressure and not get all flaky. In fact he can still accomplish some wicked sh** staring down the barrel of the gun.
I have no doubt the Vikings will put in comparable pressure as KC did. In fact the safe bet is to say they’ll get a sack or more. If the Lions do end up losing I think this would likely be the cause. I can’t see the Vikings having a reasonable threat on O to put up big points. This means the best bet will be to stop the Lions chance to put up those numbers first. Keep it on the ground, keep it in APs hands, ok.
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
AND YOUR QB"s LIGHTS WILL BE KNOCKED JUST WATCH
by cali viking on Sep 21, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol that does not even make sense
Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwartz: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.
THIS THAT WHY EVERYTHING IS IN CAPS????
or are you just a loud talker?
Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwartz: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.
I'm guessing roi
Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Ugh, damn phone
I’m guessing ‘roid rage
the joke would be much funnier if I hadn’t fucked it up first
Build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Ha...lol Jazzy.
Irony?
That is why I say…these little screens were not meant to be used by people with big d…I mean…big fingers!
by izziefans on Sep 22, 2011 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what TB and KC thought
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
It CAVED in...not knocket out.
Next question…
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Knocked out like the 14 YEARS (or whatever) it was that Lions were shown the door by every other team.
Damn it I miss the sure 2 wins in our column we used to have. Damn you NFL and damn your policies.
You're right.
Charles Rogers is such a beast for us ain’t he.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Haha no but Stafford, Johnson, Suh, Pettigrew, Best, etc. have helped things a ton. You can’t have that many high drafts and not eventually get some talent.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
DrewsLions, do you see?
How Norseforce, Packallday and Grime got what I was saying right away?
That is because we have some knowledgeable and intelligent (and funny..hehehe) folks over here on DN.
Please continue to make the case for your team.
Cheers.
I'm the funny one
but it kind of kills it when I have to keep reminding people of it..
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
It is true. .."actually for a very long time..."
That shit is gold…it is…aurumus poop!..even I couldn’t have thought of that one…hehehe
Oh, I got your point.... just chose to ignore it... lol
But it still comes down to making the right choices. If the Lions listened to the fans, they would have drafted Aaron Curry instead of Stafford. Mistake? Uh… yeah. And we could have chosen McCoy over Suh as well.
Yeah, we got some high picks… that’s how the “policies” work, but we also made good use of them. Don’t worry… you guys will have a few years of high picks in the coming years… ;)
BTW… lighten up a tad. Just having a little fun and cheering my team on.
I gotta say
I’ve never heard of the guy who started this post, but I want to shake his hand. This has been some fun hate. No offense, haven’t had a reason to argue with Lions fans for a long time.
Skol!
by DM_Purp on Sep 23, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree. This is good.
One of the reasons why we want you guys to stay in the NFC North.
The North/Central would not be the same without one of its stellar members.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Yeah we are just starting to reap the rewards of
all those high picks really. At least Millen didn’t blow it with CJ.
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by Justan Oldfart on Sep 22, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
That's funny
because it was getting the point where it was ridiculous for the Lions to draft ANOTHER #1 WR. It’s a good thing they took one last shot.
Skol!
sounds like you think HE is the funny one, you sir fail at being funny
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
My comment was intended to be serious
They had spent 2 – 1st round picks on WRs in what? the 3 previous years? I’m saying if they had simply avoided drafting a WR and gone with another need they would have missed the best WR out of all 3 they drafted(charles/roy)
Skol!
Wow, that's a relief. I thought you were going to knock them up!
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
You make a post titled "Sorry Detroit Fans But...."
…and you expect us to not come in droves? Ain’t happening.
For this comment, I give you a……
-9
-81
-44
-13
-90
-92
-26
…and I could keep going…… we have that many star players.
Get me another beer, Dragon Lady! This one's running on empty
Am I supposed to be a man, am I supposed to say, "It's OK, I don't mind, I don't mind"? Well, I mind! I mind big time! And you know what the worst part is? I NEVER LEARNED TO READ.
by Slum Village Allstar on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
What is up with us having issues with other teams lately?
Can’t we all just get along and have useful conversation? I mean, talk away. But can’t we use facts/statistics to back it up? Like we usually do? Instead of both sides throwing sh*t at the wall… Oh well, ZOMG WE DA B3ST!!!! will have to do.
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 21, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno how things work here
but we LOVE having conversations over at POD with the opposing fans, but it does piss me off when I see “Vikings can beat the LIons because they are playing in the Metrodome”
It would make much more sense if it was something like, “Vikings can beat the LIons because Lions have a suspect rush defense that can be taken advantage of by Adrian Peterson…”
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
Most of us here do too.
And usually either one of the teams posts a blog that’s designed to be an interaction among teams. The one team we don’t do that with is the Packer’s (to my knowledge), because guaranteed that one will escalate into – I’ll just say that it would be not good. I just think our boys have something to prove this week and I expect it to be a great game. I’ll predict at least one Jared sack this week, to break Stafford’s string, I hope we can figure out a way to neutralize Suh and company – quick screens, play action, or whatever.
for whatever reason
There is a great rapport between POD and ACP. I think we even have a few Packers fans in our fantasy leagues.
If it was up to me to gameplan against the Lions here is what I would do:
1) Leave 5 DBs in the game b/c you’ll always need it. It seems like the Lions opposition always makes the dumb mistake of trying to cover either Jahvid Best or one of the tight ends with linebacker. Best is too fast for them and the TEs are either too big or too talented.
2) Focus less on getting to Matt Stafford via blitzing and focus more on making sure all options are covered as well as they possibly can be. That’s tough to do when your lining up agains the Megatron and the rest of the crew, but Stafford has a tendency to fit balls into spaces he shouldn’t be. Its the biggest reason he already has two picks in two games, one of which was returned for a TD.
3) On offense, it should be AP and Gerhart all day long. Have harvin run misdirections, take direct snaps and whanot. Limit McNabb’s snaps b/c he is clearly not cut out to play against the Lions defense. I would highly recomend rushing outside with the addition of Stephen Tulloch. Aside from that, I would throw plenty of screen passes to Adrian Peterson and whoever can catch and run to test the Lions corners that have been suspect tacklers in the past.
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
Maybe there is hope with this one....
The force appears to be strong with him (and his ability to come up with logical thought.)
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I am still not sold...I remember some shenanigans he got into last season.
I am watching you Latif :)
What would a rivalry be without a few shenanigans and jackassery?
Actually, all of the POD members I’ve seen comment in this fanpost are among our best commenters/posters. We will bring the intelligent thought, but we are not above a little "friendly"ego bantering. What fun would it be without that?
Malarky.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
you crack me up...abba7..you are the best!
dsludo and Mavyrk..not bad.
DrewsLions, your turn. Show us the funny. :)
Well, I did throw out the celebrated...
“jackassery”, but I suppose I could go with hanky-panky, hi-jinks or the ever-popular tomfoolery………. ;)
exactly
you’re more the tomfoolery type.
Individuals should protect themselves. Governments can't protect individuals from themselves, it's just impossible, otherwise they become a tyranical state. -Ron Paul
So you're coming to another teams fan site and getting upset because they think they home field advantage actually gives them an advantage?
Wow you’re right how could we be so stupid? You that bookies give home teams a couple of points because they are playing at home? So I mean it does affect the game. Personally I think you just aren’t used to winning so when you finally do, you don’t keep your cool you go wandering around to crow about it to anyone you can force to listen to your pap. I mean really coming here and spouting all your talent like we have no idea. Like we have no talent no our team that could in anyway stop them.
Funny I’ve been over to POD and a couple of your posts have talked about staying classy. It’s nice to know you take these things to heart.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Are we going to tell them about the backup for #87 and give them a -85?
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
“Star” players? The only ones on that list are Calvin Johnson and Suh. Stafford’s got a LOT more to prove before he can be considered a star. Best, really? And Burleson, he’s a “star”? Not sure whether 92 is Vanden Bosch or Avril but regardless, neither of them are “stars”. Definitely wouldn’t consider Delmas a “star” either.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
They've got two wins.
They are like Leonardo di’Crapio in that lame movie on the ship.
Just because you state you’re king of the world doesn’t mean everything is going to keep going your way buds.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
hey grime...
are you calling us the “iceberg”?
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
heheheh
true true
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I'll just let our "stars" show how good they are then.
And we get two chances to show you, so I guarantee you’ll know who #92 is by then…. ;)
Why so quick to get cocky.
This is what will happen. The Vikings will score 17 points in the first half and hold the Lions to 7 or under. Then Calvin Johnson will go crazy in the second half and the Lions will catch up to beat us. Okay maybe pessimism, but I’ve about had it with these 2011 Vikings. For once, I’d just like to see a team win that I want to win. Which is why I used reverse psychology and picked the Lions to win in the Pickem league this week. Go Vikings.
I don't think it is a matter of Lions fans getting cocky.
I think it is a matter of Vikings fans not having any real read on how much better the Lions are now compared to the last time you saw them. Could the Vikings beat the Lions at home? Sure they can. I think that the vast majority of games in the NFL are winnable by either team on any given Sunday, especially at home. Unless you are the Dolphins anyway.
Lions fans have a very unique perspective on knowing what it looks like when your team is going to have a hard time winning. From that perspective, I am going to tell you that the Vikings will need to play very very well to win if the Lions continue to play as they did against Kansas City. Let me give you just a bit of perspective on that…
The Lions were able to adjust to the Kansas City running game and shut it down for most of the game. Kansas City got some yards early by using misdirection plays to take advantage of the speed on the Lions defense. Eventually the Lions shifted their back seven to a zone defense in response and just flowed to the ball instead of trying to fill holes by assignment. After that adjustment was made, the Chiefs had difficulty running for the majority of their remaining running plays. Before you dismiss the running game of the Chiefs, remember that they were #1 in rushing last season.
The Lions have a very deep defensive line and they rotate the players a LOT. The idea that you will wear down the Lions defense is not likely to hold true. In fact, I bet that the Vikings offensive line tires long before the Lions defense does because they will not be able to match the rest the Lions can give their defensive linemen through the sub rotation.
The Lions linebackers are far superior to what the Vikings played against last season. The addition of Tulloch and Durant has been a big factor in the improvement of the Lions defense. When the Vikings played the Lions early last season, and Peterson went off, the Lions were playing mostly second rate backups at linebacker, along with an injured Deandre Levy and Louis Delmas. During the contest later in the season when the Lions were able to shut down Peterson, the defense was more healthy and Bobby Carpenter played a big role. Now Carpenter is coming off the bench as a substitute because he could not win a starting job against the new linebackers.
The Vikings no longer have Ray Edwards, and Pat Williams, so half of your fearsome defensive line is gone.
Donovan McNabb has been underwhemling.
Do the VIkings even have any receivers besides Harvin?
In a nutshell, the Vikings offense depends heavily on Peterson and if you do win he is going to need a HUGE game. The Lions are capable of putting up 30 points on anybody in the league, and I seriously doubt that Peterson can accomplish that on his own.
To win, the Vikings are going to need their best game of the season, by far, and some help from the Lions as well.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
by TuffLynx on Sep 21, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Harvin is not even getting on the field as much as Berriman and Jenkins
Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwartz: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.
That is a Musgrave failboat though, dunno why they are not using a talent like him more?!?!?!
He is not even in their red zone package, that is just crazy!
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
from what i see from their stats
They do not like to run with him in the lineup. Maybe he is a liability in run blocking.
Yooperlionfan is officially "the man"
the Lions D-Line: the Four Horsemen of the A-sack-alypse
Jim Schwartz: Erasing the stink of Millen, one fist pump at a time.
P.C.P: It is not just for recreation anymore.
Not at all
I would argue he’s our best blocking WR. Much better than Berrian(that guy can’t do anything) and I don’t know much about Jenkins yet. You would think Jenkins would be a good blocker with his size. It’s mostly because the Vikings are running more 2 and 3 TE sets to help pave a way for AD and Harvin is considered WR3 so he’s not in the 2WR sets.
Skol!
Berrian and Merriman = Berriman
Winning!
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Greatest 2 way player going. Nice catch
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
The most beastly corner ever. A shutdown corner with huge amounts of swagger
Or simply Primetime.
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
I was thinking along the lines of Rod Woodson. Plain nasty!
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Rod works too.
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
If shoulder "tackles" are your thing, take Deion.
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by NobodySpecial on Sep 21, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Are we talking about the same Kansas Chiefs here?
The same team who lost:
1. Eric Berry – arguably the anchor of their defense
2. Jamaal Charles – nuff said
3. Tony Moeaki – no. 1 TE
We’re not that terrible. In fact, we OWNED the last two teams in first half. “But but, football is played for FOUR QUARTERS…” Amen brother, I couldn’t agree more. My point is, for the past 2 games, we were able to play toe to toe with a Superbowl contender and a playoff bound team. We actually had a CHANCE to win unlike the Chiefs who lost 48-3.
Instead of comparing us to the Chiefs. Why not compare both of our teams against Tampa Bay since we both played them. You guys won by a touchdown. And we obviously midf*cked ourselves in the 2nd half and lost by 4 points.
In conclusion…For us to win, we don’t need for the “stars to align” on Sunday. We just need to get out of this mental barrier of blowing leads off in 2nd half.
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
How bout them ’Noles?
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 21, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom line: You lost at home to TB and we beat them at THEIR home.
The score was a lot closer than the game was due to the Lions own conservatism and a horrendous penalty with a minute left in the game.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
by NorthLeft12 on Sep 22, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
well you honestly can't say we had the best game either
Playing the first half lights out then amassing ridiculous amounts of penalties, lining up in incorrect formations and generally playing with our collective heads up our butts didn’t help. Football is the good and the bad. Both of our teams need to cut out the stupid so we can play to our real potential.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Huh? or Eh?
Your team gets a pass on the Bucs game because they played lousy?
Really? I thought the NFL was about proving it on the field and all that nonsense.
Do the Vikings have higher Madden ratings? Is that why you think you are entitled to believe that your team is actually better than the Bucs?
Just maybe, the real Vikings are more like the version that lost the game rather than the one that had the lead both times. I mean you do have Donovan McNabb as your QB. The guy who was replaced last year by Rex Grossman.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Look yourself in the mirror.
NorthLeft12
The score was a lot closer than the game was due to the Lions own conservatism and a horrendous penalty with a minute left in the game.
NorthLeft12
Your team gets a pass on the Bucs game because they played lousy?
Really? I thought the NFL was about proving it on the field and all that nonsense.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that's actually what I was refering to
some lions fans were stating they were better than they were because they made dumb mistakes I was using the same logic. God for Goose good for Maverick as it were.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Where did he say the team is actually better than the Bucs? He pointed out that they were dominating them at halftime — which they were. And that they then fell apart in the second.
Didn’t you essentially say the same things about your game with the Bucs? You know with your whole the game was only close cause of our conservatism and horrendous penalty bit?
I think it’s a lot more common to see a team play below their potential than it is to see them play above their potential. And in the Vikings case, it’s not they like haven’t played at a high level recently (2009). I don’t think there’s any question that they still have some very talented guys.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
how are you a packer fan? you're a disgrace to pack nation. Go blow the viking mascot
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 22, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's my bff.
Why do you have a Rams player as your screen name? You’re a disgrace to “Narnia” nation.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, we can tell he is one of your BFFs
You guys have been servicing each other through the entire thread.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Great minds think alike.
That’s all there is to it. I see you’re still butthurt from our argument though. It’s ok, time heals..xoxo
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Heard it from Chad Henne
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Packallday555
Has been a good friend to this site for a long time (trust me, he’s a true Packer fan) so when you speak of things that you know nothing about just keep them to yourself if you don’t mind.
+555
This is an insightful one with a long history with us, Dolla billz. He only speaks his non-biased truth. (sorry, I just got out of a philosophy lecture. Its how my professor speaks)
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 22, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true though. 555 is here all the time.
He doesn’t make any ridiculous arguments. He keeps it real.
Skol!
I can promise you I’m a Packers fan. I just don’t happen to suffer from accute homerism like lots of you Lions fans seem too. You win 2 games, against a decent team and a horrible team, and all of the sudden you’re the greatest thing since sliced bread. Sorry, just not buying it. That DL is great but that secondary is not. Stafford and his weapons are lethal, but the offensive line certainly isn’t. The Vikings might not challenge that secondary a whole lot but I think they will challenge that OL.
I just feel like it’s going to be a good matchup. Seems like a lot of you guys have your pride hurt because I don’t share your opinion that you’re going to blow them out of the water. That doesn’t mean I think you’re going to lose either.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Our secondary is unproven really
though they have played well the first 2 games. Very well in fact but 2 games is too small a sample size to say they are good On the other hand it’s definitely too small a sample size to say they aren’t either. Great? They may well not be great but they are showing signs of being well above average.
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by Justan Oldfart on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I would definitely agree with that
Too few games to really say anything about either team, but it’s fun to speculate. For the Lions, they look to have things shored up offensively(obvious) and the same with the defense so far, but they haven’t had much competition in that regards. For their sake, they don’t want to “find” anything out about their secondary this weekend. If they “figure out” what kind of secondary they have, then it’s probably bad news for them this weekend because the Vikings shouldn’t pose much of a threat through the air.
Skol!
All I know is that you guys got tore up by Cam Newton, I think you lost your street cred on what a "good" secondary is
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Umm...3 INT
Could’ve easily been 5.
I’ll give him credit. He’s a better passer than I initially thought.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, we were without our best cover corner (Williams) and Collins for almost the entire second half.
Honestly, he just looked very poised for a rookie. I was a big advocate of him being a total flop in the NFL but after seeing him actually play, I think he’s gonna be the real deal.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh?
The secondary is not great? You mean the secondary with 4 picks in 2 games? On a defense which has only surrendered one TD all year?
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by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You’ve played the Bucs and Chiefs. Not exactly offensive juggernauts, ya know? I want to see how that secondary matches up with an elite offense.
If teams can control your DL, I think the secondary will get torched. Houston is a pretty pedestrian corner, and so is Wright imo. Though, that’s a big if because your DL is a handful.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You could dominate the first half again.
The Lions have had slow starts in both of their games, but they have been the first quarter, not the first half. The Lions are aware of that and they will want to start better in this game, but that is easier said than done. One of the problems that the Vikes have, is the play pattern of the Lions is exactly what has given the Vikes trouble. The Lions have been a second half team. Well, a last three quarters team is probably more accurate. So the Vikes need to break that pattern to win.
You also have to look at the Lions one touchdown winning margin in Tampa as misleading. Detroit dominated Tampa in that game and then had trouble down the stretch because of the heat and humidity. Several players were cramping up and IVs were being given out like water. The game became closer because the Lions started playing prevent in the fourth quarter and took their foot off the gas pedal. Tamps Bay was more acclimated to the weather in their own stadium and it helped them. Unless the Hubiedome is going to be pumped up to 100 degrees and 45% humidity, I don’t think that will happen again.
In a lot of ways, I think the KC game is a better comparison for the Vikings because KC and Minnesota are similar is a lot of ways. You are both teams that like to run the ball, with suspect quarterbacks at this point. I guess the main difference is that KC has more weapons at receiver while Minnesota probably has a better defense.
One thing is for sure, you need to keep AP from stepping on any first down markers. I am hoping the Lions defense will help you keep AP healthy by not letting him anywhere near a first down. ;-)
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FML.
You beat the team who will represent the no.1 overall pick in 2012 draft.
Similar offense?They have more weapons?
1.AP/Gerhart = Mcluster/Jones = you trippin?
2.Somewhere over the Dwayne Bowe = Jenkins; Ok, Chiefs have the edge
3. Percy Harvin = Steve Breaston = Steve who?
4. Shiancoe/Rudolph = Pope = They have a tight end?
5. Mcnabb (18/20 228 yards) = Cassel (15/22 133 yards 3 INT) Tell me. Are they the same?
Better defense? Of course! They just lost their best player in their defense.
Heat and IV? Please stop.
What pattern are you talking about? Although we lost, we actually went toe to toe with Philip Rivers aka better than Stafford. I just played Madden, he has a better rating. Trust me. ;)
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now hold on there, answer WHAT I SAID, not what you imagine...
As I said, the KC offense was #1 in rushing last season. No, they do not have a back as dangerous as AP once Charles went down, but that is not the point I was making. The Chiefs running attack is not just the Jamaal Charles show. They also have Thomas Jones, Dexter McCluster, and LeRon McClain who are ALL pretty good backs. KC beats you to death with a stable of very good running backs of which Charles is the centerpiece.
I never said that there were more weapons on the KC offense. I said that KC has more weapons at RECEIVER! Please go back and read my post again if you did not understand that. You need to compare them evenly across the board.
- receiver: Bowe vs Harvin – Bowe wins. Harvin is all about speed, Bowe is a more complete receiver.
- receiver: Breaston vs Berrian – Breaston is still dangerous. Berrian’s best days are behind him.
You can add Jenkins, but he is also on his downhill side. That is why Atlanta went out to get Julio Jones, because Jenkins can’t stretch the field any more. He is strictly a possession receiver now. In fact, except for Harvin the Vikings receivers are pretty much past their prime and fading.
You guys went out and got Aromashodu, probably because he beat the Vikes a couple years back, but he is not special either. What is it with the Vikes poaching the Bears receivers anyway? The Bears receivers aren’t that good.
Shiancoe/Rudolph vs Pope is a clear win for the Vikes, but Shiancoe is getting old and Rudolph needs some time to develop.
As for all the rest of that, you are not really listening. Youa re just dimissing things out of hand that you don’t want to hear because they do not fit your spin. They are ALL valid points.
For example, if you had bothered to watch the Tampa Bay vs Detroit game you would know that the heat and humidity played a MAJOR role in that game. Brushing it off like it doesn’t count is really not very objective. So all I have to say is … Please stop.
If you take Madden as a fair judge of talent in the NFL then we have little to talk about, because you are living in fantasy and video games, not in reality. I don’t play video games to form my opinions. I watch real games and use a pretty deep knowledge of the game of football to make my judgments.
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Thomas Jones – 3.7 yds/a v.s. Jamaal Charles 6.4 yds/a
You’re telling me that the running game won’t be affected because Jones was pretty good too? The Chiefs fan think Jones is on a downhill so much so that Haley actually caught a lot of heat for not giving Jamaal Charles more run. Check the stats again homeboy.
I perfectly read your post. Yes! Receivers!
1. Steve Breaston 3 rec/33yds against Jenkins(not Berrian!) 6 rec/55yds 1 TD
2. Harvin and Bowe = Two different receivers = Harvin is a slot WR
Bowe= 7 rec/118 yds Harvin = 9 rec/83yds;6 rush/33yds; 1 KR TD
3. Shiancoe and Pope = You agreed.
You can give all the opinion you want but read the numbers. Which one is better?
Heat and Humidity?Both teams are human I assume. Therefore both would be affected. Both also have the means of hydration. Did you see that AP highlight run against the Browns 2 years ago? That was after he got IV for dehydration. EXCUSES!
The madden part. Don’t you think that would sound so ridiculous to be true? I was kidding buddy. Although I’m not kidding bout the part where Rivers is better than Stafford.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Once again,..
I was talking about weapons. To me a weapon is a guy that can stretch the field or threaten to break any given play into a touchdown. They are guys that force your defense to account for them at all times or risk getting burned hard.
In short, Bowe and Breaston are guys that can do that. All the Vikes really have in their receivers that can do that is Harvin. That is essentially what I meant. You also have AP, but I was talking about receivers.
More important to the upcoming game, is how many weapons the Lions have on offense compared to the Vikings. Do we need to go over that one?
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You suck at arguing.
You:
“I think the KC game is a better comparison for the Vikings because KC and Minnesota are similar is a lot of ways. You are both teams that like to run the ball, with suspect quarterbacks at this point. I guess the main difference is that KC has more weapons at receiver while Minnesota probably has a better defense.”
“more weapons at receiver”
-That’s where my argument is.
- not more weapons against the lions but against the chiefs
“Bowe and Breaston are guys that can do that”
-That is merely YOUR BIASED opinion. I showed you the numbers.
-Recievers also include TE especially in Musgrave’s system.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it really necessary to start name calling?
OK, I am done with you now. This is turning into kiddie time.
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I don't see name calling
I only see that he’s telling you about your arguments not you as a person.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Sep 22, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Anytime you start with "You suck" with anything following it
that is is a personal criticism and getting into kindergarten territory.
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I understand
maybe he should have said your argument is weak.
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by UnBannedVikingholic on Sep 22, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Your argument is sucking weak and I hate it..sir.
Kidding…TuffLynx. You seem to be a good man or woman. Dont go. Stay. We like you.
actually...
if someone said “you suck at vacuuming” you may actually be pretty fracking good at it.
;-)
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I was gonna use...
the example “you suck at fellatio” but remembered this is a family friendly site…. mostly. ;-)
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess you are proud to be good at doing that then? If you ask me I would rather be inexperienced at that, in fact I never want to do it. But hey, if your the fellatio pro, then by all means you can be the best sucker on this site.
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Lol! Can I call that an art?
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm talking about you argument. LOL
I’m trying to make a point when you mentioned that the Vikes and Chiefs are similar.
You ended up with this:
“More important to the upcoming game, is how many weapons the Lions have on offense compared to the Vikings. Do we need to go over that one?”
In conclusion, my dad is better than your dad!
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
In conclusion, my dad is better than your dad!
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by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That's where the argument is going..
Might as well beat him.
Fantasy question:
Randall Cobb or Plaxico Buress?
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you.
He did score a TD in Game 1..and nowhere to be found in game 2.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm. I just don’t know what to think about Plaxico but I’d still probably go with him.
Cobb will return all the kicks and punts but our special teams unit is pretty horrid and the Bears always seem to have one of the league’s best. And while I think he can be dangerous on offense, he’s only seen a limited number of snaps in our first two games which will probably continue. There’s always a chance he breaks a long one, but it’s kinda a long shot.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
But Sanchez and consistency doesn’t mix well.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
KC and the Vikes are similar...
I’m not seeing it. other than we both like to run the ball and we both play football.
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Well, we do have that damn 0 and 2 thing in common.
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by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean, that 0 and 2 is the only thing.
On another post I said that your local high school team could beat the Chiefs at this point. I know the Vikings could beat your local high school team! :)
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by JethroBoViking on Sep 23, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
"It’s just that they don’t know how to lose to the Lions."
I’m a Vikings homer with the best of them, but even I am aware that this is the worst argument ever.
Skol!
Maybe you're right.
Lions will dominate. All hope is lost.
The thing is that the first game of the season was a trial run. The second was a huge improvement and the third is against a team that the Vikings are used to beating. I think the Vikes are more mentally prepared for a meeting with a division rival than the first two season games. Since the Vikings have a history of beating the Lions, this will be a real test of will. I am betting that the outcome will be like it has been in the past.
Vikings beat lions. Same as it ever was.
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by JethroBoViking on Sep 23, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you. I loved how he mentioned the bit about adjusting to “shut down” the running game too. How much of that do you think had to do Charles going down with an injury? Regardless, a comparison to the Chiefs is totally off. They ARE going to be the worst team in the league this season. For God’s sake, they lost to Buffalo 41-7!
Instead of comparing us to the Chiefs. Why not compare both of our teams against Tampa Bay since we both played them. You guys won by a touchdown. And we obviously midf*cked ourselves in the 2nd half and lost by 4 points
I was waiting for somebody to bring this up. My guess is this will be a close game. You guys will be able to get some pressure rushing 4, which will make things difficult on Stafford, and I doubt Best will be able to run. The only question then is, will your OL give McNabb time, and more importantly, will anybody get open for him to throw too? I didn’t mention Peterson because he’s gonna get his, he always does.
It seems like the Lions fans on this thread think they’re gonna blow you out or something, and I just don’t see that being the case. I expect ALL of the division games to be very close ones.
And on that note, anybody wanna chime in on why you guys have blown your big first half leads? Do you think it’s lack of adjustments? Or maybe conditioning?
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by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Coaching, Discipline, and bad Situational Football
Coaching: Not using Percey Harvin more effectively, not using both AP and Gerhart in more of a tandem to wear teams down, failing to manage the game clock.
Discipline: Stupid penalties, mostly on the defense in the Bucs game, to allow drives to continue and score rather than getting the defense off the field.
Situational Football: Not converting on third down, not getting the defense off the field on third down, not capitalizing on key plays in clutch moments basically. The wins were there for the Vikings, but they just came up a play or two shy in key moments to win the games.
Very similar to the Lions last season actually.
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I would say mostly the Discipline part
Not just penalties in general, but terrible TIMING of the penalties. We had a fumble recovery and would have started a drive in the redzone, but Robison was offsides on the play. A play or two later a WR broke an ankle tackle for like 50 yds and setup a TD later in the drive. COMPLETELY shifted the momentum.
Skol!
Oh, come'on...
YOU “OWNED” the Chargers in the first half???
PFFFFFFFT…. Maybe your special teams owned them….lol…. That’s like sayin’ that Tampa “owned” the lions in the first half….lol.
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Bragging about a performance against the chargers before week 8 is like winning the ugliest person contest
Not really something to hang your hat on
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What do you call about bragging about a performance against the Chiefs then?
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
A 45 point whooping?
Yeah, the Bills totally did that to them right. How many other teams this league have hung forty on someone? The Texans certainly didn’t, and the Colts have the worse defense in that comparison.
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Wrong answer. I'll rephrase the question.
If bragging about the Chargers (Superbowl contender) is like winning to the ugliest person contest….What’s bragging bout a performance against the worst team then?
The Vikes already took the award for the ugliest person contest. What’s worse than that?
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but they beat em’ by 34 right? Frankly, after it gets past 30+ it’s pretty much all the same. It just depends on the coach, and whether or not he really wants to run up the score.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets put this into perspective
The Vikings lost to the notoriously slow starting Chargers. They were 9-7 last year and did not make the playoffs. Matter of fact, how can you call them a super bowl contender when they have not even played in it? AFC Championship like what once in the last five years? And they lost too by the way. For the record they also lost to the Chiefs last year, along with Oakland and Denver. The Chargers are over rated and over hyped because of where they play. They are an average team with a great quarterback. They find ways to lose, as was proven out in New England. Yet you found a way to lose against them.
On the other hand, we did what we were supposed to do, we hung a 40 burger on a team that we were supposed to beat. By the way, we are supposed to beat the Vikings too. Maybe it wont be a 40 burger, but I have confidence it will be a Lions divisional road win.
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Let's put things in REAL perspective.
Holdout:
Vincent Jackson
Marcus McNeill
Injuries:
Antonio Gates
Ryan Matthews
Malcolm Floyd
and a shit more than the Lions do.
yet……
Rivers threw for 4,710, 30TD, 13 INT
They finished 9-7 despite of all that debacle.
now….
Everyone is healthy. No holdouts. Superbowl contender!
I don’t care if you think that’s true or not. You can live in your won bubble but that’s the majority sees it..
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 24, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
"Pretty much all the same."
I’m sorry, comparing the two games that’s an eleven point differential. Calling it pretty much all the same is ridiculous.
So if you lose by 12 points, do you feel just as good as when you lose by 1 point? Because it isn’t all the same, that’s a huge difference in whooping. That was the entire point spread ON TOP OF Buffalo’s beating.
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I clearly stated that after the leads get’s up past 30+, it’s all pretty much the same. From there it depends on what back-up’s may (or may not) be playing and how aggrssive the coaching staff wants to be.
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by packallday555 on Sep 26, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes!
Owned. Like saying the Detroit Lions owned the “lottery” pick for the past decade.
Clear enough?
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Your point about the Vikings no longer having...
Ray Edwards and Pat Williams is really weak.
Sure…Ray Edwards was a good DE, but he really wasn’t worth all of the money that he wanted. He doesn’t even have one sack yet for the Falcons, and that is after playing against a Bears team that seems to hand out sacks to every team that they play against.
And even though I was a fan of Pat Williams while he played for the Vikings, he just wasn’t the same Phat Pat over the past cople of years. And if he was still as talented as you seem to be giving him credit for, you’d think that at least some other team would have signed him during the offseason.
OK, but who replaced them?
Are you trying to say that their replacements are better than the guys that left?
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I’d say from what I’ve seen of Robison, that he’s a pretty equal replacement to Edwards. He might not be as strong against the run but he looks just as solid, if not better rushing the passer.
I couldn’t answer the DT question. Though, the Vikings have always had a good DL, and some good depth. And whoever it is, will surely benefit from playing next to Williams and Allen.
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by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, honestly I forgot that Williams wasn’t playing week 1 against the Chargers. You guys seem to do a really good job of collapsing the pocket on him. Only, the team missed a lot of tackles when he’d dump it off, which surprised me.
How was the pass rush against Tampa Bay? Did the DT’s struggle a little more against their interior OL? They’ve got some pretty good OG’s.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I would say they held their own
We weren’t getting penetration there, but they didn’t seem to be getting blown off the line of scrimmage either, which is a positive all things considered. Our problem is between the DT and DE where there’s always a void from Allen and Robison running up field and not reading the run properly. Honestly, our LBs need to step up and fill those gaps, but they were getting either a pulling OG or a FB on a linebacker in the 2nd half and Blount had a lot of success. Winfield had 11 tackles. He’s a stud, but that’s not good defense.
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there ya go Tuff
also keep in mind in that first game AP’s big contribution would not have happened if CC Brown hadn’t been born.
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doesnt realy matter
The lions bean told by every team fans, sports writers and anaylist that there a fsmokescreen, the past 6 games were a fluke and a joke and 0-16 jokes. The lions are a sleeping giant, ready to dominate games and show the world what there about. yes the vikings have there backs against the wall but the lions have there pride against the wall. I have bean a lions fan for a long time and have never seen this team this hungry and playing angry. cant wait for sunday.
While the Vikes have pieces that worry me
There are also pieces that I’m happy to see in dark pink. The way I see it: Adrian Peterson can go crazy all day long and rush for 200 yards, but you’ll have to pass the ball sometime, and do you actually trust McNabb NOT to turn over the ball after seeing Cassel throw 3 intereceptions and Freeman throw one after both quarterbacks combined for just 13 picks in all of last season.
Also, how exactly do you plan to stop Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson and the three headed tight end squad? Sure, let’s say Stafford does get injured for the sake of argument. These very same Vikings were beat by Shaun Hill last year…
Lastly, I love that people here think that the Vikings somehow have a better chance of winning because of home field advantage. This is professional football we’re talking about. Look around. The only teams that have home field advantage are the teams that have advantage playing the elements. The Packers, Patriots and Bears are the only real ones that have any type of REAL home field advantage…
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I'd also be tempted to add Seattle to that list of REAL advantage.
From what I understand that is one of if not the loudest stadium in the NFL.
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3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
well
they’re the only fanbase on the continent that can create an earthquake…i’d call that an advantage…
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So the Saints didn't have a noticable advantage VS the Bears this past weekend?
STL didn’t have an advantage as the fastest show on turf? Speed is always amplified on turf. There will be an offsides on the Lions offense due to the noise. I’d put my next check on it.
Skol!
Hah! Joke's on you!
Offsides isn’t a penalty on offense!
Speed is always amplified on turf.
So you mean to tell me that our runningback that runs a 4.30 will be amplified? Same with our two wideouts that do the same? Oh and they are all used to playing on turf at Ford Field (though be it much more expensive turf…even Detroit can afford that).
Some home field advantage you got yourself there…
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I guess i'll make sure and be a little more thorough with my comments from now on, but I'm trying to avoid writing a book with each post
Amplified – to make larger, greater, or stronger; enlarge; extend
We’ll go with the “greater” synonym. Yes, a 4.3 is different on turf as opposed to on grass. I realize detroit plays on turf too so I wasn’t trying to say they forget how to run on turf or anything like that. I was just pointing out that our defense tends to play much faster in the dome and playmakers like AP and Percy tend to be much more effective with their speed and elusiveness. I understand the same can be said about Detroit. We play better at home. The main advantage will be the noise. This increases the chance of false start, illegal snap, illegal formation, delay of game penalties for the visiting team. It also helps the defense getting of the ball because if that starts affecting them with penalties, they may have to change how their cadence works, thus making their snap timing difficult to change and making it more predictable. Detroit is still a relatively young team. These things can happen with a younger team, but maybe it doesn’t and this argument is null and void. It’s just an argument for the home team.
Skol!
lol
You guys are logical fans here. You ask yourself this question: do you really believe you have a good chance of winning when the reasons you are providing has to do with the Lions possibly giving you five yards on a false start or neutral zone infraction? Do you really think that at the end of the day it will come down to PENALTIES of all things that decide this game?
As far as I’m concerned, the Lions will play faster too on turf, so whatever “speed” your gaining, so are the Lions. Besides, you had speed last week against Tampa too, and managed to lose that game also, while the Lions beat them at Tampa when the weather was 102 degrees.
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Considering how close I believe this game may end up being...
I feel that yes, in fact, an offsides penalty or something similar could easily change the entire landscape of this game.
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 23, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
If one 5-yd penalty flips the entire game, I will be VERY surprised
My point is that if there is that little 5-yd penalty or multiple, then it does start to shift the game in our favor. Hence, HOME field advantage with 70K+ screaming their throats out. Not so much the simple 5 yds, but if it becomes an issue, the lions may have to go on a silent snap, thus giving the Vikings DLine a huge advantage. These are arguments that home teams have been making for a hundred years. I’m not inventing the wheel here or anything. If detroit can get an early lead and take the crowd out of it, we’re screwed. I don’t think we’re making any ridiculous arguments here.
Skol!
I should have rephrased my thought on the game being played indoors on the turf
It’s not a negative with the vikings playing indoors. We’ve played awful on the road on grass the past few years so it is a big bonus for us. Detroit obviously plays on turf too so you’re right, no adjustment needed there.
Skol!
Well lets put it this way
Lions rank 13th in the league in penalty yards with 103
Vikings rank 29th in the league in penalty yards with 143
On average you are taking 20 more yards in penalties a game than the Lions, so if it comes down to a penalty, I like our chances.
As for the turf…
We have Jahvid Best who is every bit the speed threat at RB if not more so than Adrian Peterson. So I don’t think you gain any advantage there.
At tight end we have Tony Scheffler who beat Brandon Flowers, yes the starting corner for the Chiefs, for a tough down last week. Sorry Shainco loses out in that debate. He might be a underrated and very good tight end, but in a track meet Scheffler puts him to shame. And while Pettigrew may not be a speedster, I will take his blocking and size over Kyle Rudolph any day.
Do I even need to get into the receiver debate? Calvin Johnson you all know and love, admit it, you LOVE him. Then there is Nate Burleson, and while not the fastest guy, he can rip off a 20 yard run after the catch because of his slippery nature. I will take that over anyone not named Harvin. Then we have Titus Young, who caught a 48 yard reception last week on 3rd and 24. Yep, it was an obvious deep passing down and he still beat the corner and split the receivers. The dud is a step shy of being DeSean Jackson.
Then you get to our line backers. Levy, Durant, and Tulloch all run like safeties, and our safeties, Delmas and Spievey both run like corners. In fact Spievey is a converted corner who plays very much like Winfield, very physical, come up and take your legs out kind of guy. Then you have Chris Houston and Erick Wright at corner along with Eric Berry. All 4.4 or better speed at corner.
So how the hell do you exactly gain on the Lions with a faster track? If you ask me you lose out in that. That is what the Lions fans have been saying, we have one of the fastest, and most athletic teams in the league, top to bottom, offense and defense. If it comes down to a track meet, we can run with anyone.
So neither penalties, nor a fast track, is any kind of advantage to the Vikings, quite the contrary actually, big advantage for the Lions.
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bleh lots of errors there
Scheffler caught a touch down, not a tough down
Titus Young beat the corner and split the safeties, not receivers
kind messed up on pain meds at the moment, so brain can get a couple thoughts ahead of the fingers
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I wouldn't count out the Lions fans there making enough noise
to distract your offense too. Listen to the Wk1 game @ TB. “Lets go Lions!” was the loudest thing that you could hear from the crowd. We took over a stadium in Florida… It’s a possibility that we could do the same in Minnesota!
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by Lions & Panthers Fan on Sep 24, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
As a lions fan
I doubt that would happen also. Not many Michiganders retire to Minnesota for one thing. For another though some games are blacked out they seem to do better than Tampa in that regard.
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by Justan Oldfart on Sep 24, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
have to concur here, the Metrodome may be a falling apart dump
But the Vikings fans will make enough noise to give them a home field advantage. It is probably the loudest dome team over the last decade. Though now that Lions fans have something to cheer about the newer Ford Field has better acoustics and will be louder in the future, or at least a to close to say either is stronger than the other.
Bottom line though, the noise will give them some home field advantage in hampering our ability to make line calls and adjustments. But all that really means is that we are likely to score high 20’s or low 30’s instead of high 30’s or low 40’s like we have been doing.
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But all that really means is that we are likely to score high 20’s or low 30’s instead of high 30’s or low 40’s like we have been doing.
…and some Detroit fans can’t understand why we interpret your posts as cocky
Skol!
At this point, we have a right to be
Does Adrian Peterson scare me? Yuppers. Could McNabb continue to improved with his OC and receiving corps, yep, he better if you guys are to have a shot.
However, we have one of the top passing offenses in football. Stafford is up there with Brady, Rogers, and Brees in passer rating. He is tied with Fitzmagic and Brady for the NFL lead in touchdowns with 7 in two games. And he has always had the IT factor.
While your hoping McNabb continues to improve, I am just expecting more of the same from Stafford and co. While you are hoping that Stafford leaves the game injured to give you a chance, I am hoping that McNabb stays in and continues to perform to the same levels he has been.
Its not cocky to say that when your offense is averaging 37.5 points a game. Did any Lions fans say you were cocky for expecting AP to go off? Well then don’t think we are cocky for expecting Stafford to go off. He is our best offensive player, our superstar, and yes that includes Calvin Johnson.
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It's easy to fill up a southern stadium with opposing fans...
Especially Florida where virtually every single retiree from Michigan winters down in the area.
It is the same when the Vikes go to Arizona to play the Cardinals….
Weirdly, Johnson’s never had a dominating game against Minnesota. Granted, this is the first matchup with a fully-functioning Stafford…
The Vikings have actually fared really well against good top receivers such as Vincent Jackson and Mike WIlliams, for what it’s worth. TEs and backs have been a whole ‘nother issue, though. It’ll be a tall order for them to contain Pettigrew, Scheffler (sp?), Best, etc…
I think you're forgetting the game where he scored two touchdowns in a 4 minute span on you guys...
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I must be. You made me go to pro-football-ref, though, to look at Johnson’s boxscores against Minnesota, and I still didn’t find a 2 TD performance…When was it?
yeah
wrong team…
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Scheffler spelling: Nailed it.
Grew hasn’t done much yet but Scheff has a TD in each game so far. Look out for him to add another and have some kind of Viking inspired celebration after it.
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1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
On Mcnabb – If you’re looking forward for him to turn it over. This isnt Favre, dude has the 2ND BEST TD:INT RATIO.
On stopping Megatron – We defended well against Mike Williams and Vincent Jackson. The team’s No. 1 WR. As much as I’m worried bout Megatron, I’m more worried with your slot receiver and TE.
On people here thinking the Vikings have a better chance – Unless you PROVE yourself in winning to a LEGITIMATE team (Pats, Steelers, Saints, Packers), to me, you’re still the same Lions team. PROVE it and I’ll be the first to acknowledge.
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow those last 2 are so far off.
Megatron is not Mike Williams or Vincent Jackson. There are no where near the Talent of Calvin. Vincent is the closest in size and speed but I dont see him as a top 10 wideout let alone a top 2 or 3 Calvin is.
Vincent is 6’5" with a combine 40 time of 4.46
Williams is 6’1" with a combine 40 time of 4.53
Calvin is 6’5" with a combine 40 time of 4.35
As far as the same Lions goes, they aren’t. We are faster, stronger, and meaner than the team from ‘08 and before. We will prove we aren’t the same ol Lions don’t worry.
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4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
Another stat from combine
Vert for WIlliams at 6’1" was 33.5" Jackson at 6’5" was 39" with Calvin at 6’5" is 42.5". 3.5 inches makes a world of difference.
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7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
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Calvins Johnson’s mom. See, I know how to use google too.
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Last time I checked
The NFL wasn’t the combine. When does a player run 40 yards in no pads? Never, thats when.
Point is speed is relative
Calvin is faster with or without pads.
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4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
Oh trust me, I agree
I watched him at GT. Loved the dude, even though I’m a nole.
Calvin is a beast. He just isn’t head and shoulders above Jackson imo.
That's what she said.
3.5 inches makes a world of difference.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Berrian and Megatron are far off.
Comparing Megatron against a Pro-Bowler?Not so far off.
Where the hell did I say that the 2 are more/near the talent of Megatron?
What I said was we were able to defend well against the previous team’s No.1 WR.
Did I say that I was’nt worried against Megatron?Read it again pls.
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I get what you said.
Calvin is our #1 but he’s not your average #1. I’m just saying Jackson is #1 by default in my opinion.
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3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
I understand your point about Megatron...
I just disagree. There has only been one CB in the NFL that has been able to shut down Megatron, and he plays for the Jets.
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Another one..
Shut him down? Hell no.
Slow him down? I hope so.
Which part do you disagree exactly?
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Where I disagree...
is that you are looking at the problem for the Vikings very narrowly. You look at AP vs the Lions run defense and like what you see. I can get behind that to an extent because AP is BEAST! But you downplay the problems that the Lions offense represents to the Vikings too much.
The problems that the Vikings have actually start Matthew Stafford, not Calvin Johnson. He has the ability to get the ball to his receivers just about anyplace on the field, and in tight spaces. The Vikings defense is not particularly fast. That will give the Lions some nice spaces for Stafford to deliver the ball into.
So what will it take to slow down Calvin Johnson? KC tried to and succeeded. He only had three receptions for 29 yards, but the Lions still put up a 40 burger on KC. The Lions do not need Calvin to have a big game to kill you. He can just catch touchdowns when we are close.
In the process of trying to stop Calvin, the Lions other receivers had a party. Nate Burleson and Titus Young both have good games and that is how it will go if you spend enough resources to shut down Megatron. So you need to cover all three. Do the Vikes have enough good defensive backs to cover all three?
Now add in that the Lions actively use Brandon Pettigrew and Tony Scheffler in their offense. Schffler had a touchdown against the Chiefs where he beat a two deep zone with a cornerback on the outside and safety help in the deep middle. To translate that a bit, Scheffler is a tight end that can beat double coverage from a safety and cornerback, sort of like Megatron. If you try to cover him with a linebacker he is going to tear you up. The Vikings don’t have a linebacker than can cover Scheffler in single coverage. I am not sure anybody does.
So what does that mean? Do the Vikings play a nickel all game and challenge the Lions to beat them on the ground? Who does that leave to cover who? How does that impact the running lanes when you have a tight end blocking down on a cornerback instead of a linebacker? Can Adrian Peterson compensate for all the points that the Lions offense will put up from the mismatches they have?
The Vikings have some serious problems to solve with the Lions. I am not saying this as just a fan of the Lions. That is said because of my knowledge of the game and looking at matchups. I am not trying to be a jerk or biased. These are reality, not Madden football.
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The part where you disagree?
“The problems that the Vikings have actually start Matthew Stafford”
-Watch the Chargers vs Vikings game. Check how we hold up against Rivers.
“So what will it take to slow down Calvin Johnson? KC tried to and succeeded. He only had three receptions for 29 yards, but the Lions still put up a 40 burger on KC.”
-Pressure at the QB. The Bills also put up 41-7 against the Chiefs. Yes!The Bills!
" Nate Burleson and Titus Young both have good games and that is how it will go if you spend enough resources to shut down Megatron."
-I already said this earlier. This and the TE is where you will beat us.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 4:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He who speaks the least knows the most.
I failed.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the Vikes have done a pretty good job of it over the years.
In 7 matchups (he missed one game in ‘10) we have held Megatron to 31 receptions for 438 yards and 4 TD’s…
Not to shabby.
I’d say Jackson is pretty close to Calvin. I definitely think Calvin gets the nod over him, but let’s not act like he’s head and shoulders above Jackson.
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by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m very disappointed that the Vikings are not considered a legitimate team in your opinion. They are in mine
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by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 21, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought that was a given..
Like saying Brooklyn Decker is hot. No sh*t sherlock. ;)
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 21, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
+2
for the Brookly Decker reference.
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Last I checked...
The Vikes haven’t beaten anybody legit for a while either.
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Oh, I see...
We are going back to last season now.
Wasn’t that when the Lions beat your team at the end of the season?
Hmm, I seem to remember the Lions beating the World Champion Green Bay Packers the same week that you guys tripped up a less impressive Eagles team. They weren’t “The Dream Team” yet when you beat them.
I also seem to remember the Lions beating two other playoff contenders on the road just before that.
So if youa re going to go back to last season then the original point is wrong and the Lions have beaten good teams just as recently as the Vikings have, and we have beaten you.
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You said Viking haven't beaten anyone for a while..???
By “a while” Did you mean 2 weeks of this season?
Ummm...Your point holds no water...
The Packers took you to task with Matt Flynn as the QB, and we lost AP when our suck-ass backup, Tavaris “Jump Pass” Jackson ran into him in the first quarter.
Of course that Vikings team was a disaster and had given up on the season at that point as well.
Either way, I will give the Lions thier due; You are better, and I would like to see you guys do well after all you have been thru the last….ah…forever years.
This will be a good game, and I think we may surprise you. I don’t know that it will be enough to pull off a win…..but, hell, this is OUR website and we are bleeding purple and gold, so yeah, were going to monkey stomp you.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Wait.
When did Matt Flynn take us to task?
And I’ll tell you plainly, I’m not sleeping on you guys. Nothing you’re going to do Sunday is going to surprise me, including a win. Okay, maybe if you blow us out, that might surprise me. But I won’t be surprised to see AP have a good day, or you guys have good pressure, or see McNabb return to NFC Champion form. Not one bit. I know what your team is, and I know how frustrating it is to be sitting 0-2 after 2 weeks and know that your team is way better than the record shows it to be. (See: 2010)
I’m hoping for a good, injury-free, game between two divisional rivals. Should be a good one.
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Rodgers got knocked out in the 1st...
and Flynn played the rest of the way; almost engineering a last drive TD.
Even without the heart and soul of the Packers, you only won by 4.
Yes, taken to task.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
We started the game with our third stringer...
Um, yeah. I’d say that’s the reason we only won by four. Not because Matt Flynn “took us to task.”
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by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 12:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Rodgers got knocked out in the second quarter.
And Flynn guided the Pack to a whole three points.
almost engineering a last drive TD.
????
Using that logic, he ALMOST engineered six TD drives. WOW! You guys are weak on here. Please contact some of your smarter debaters. This just isn’t fair.
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Well, if I’m not mistaken he did lead us down to your 4 yard line only to throw an INT. I’d guess that’s where the almost comes in but yeah, it’s sorta irrelevant since it didn’t happen.
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by packallday555 on Sep 23, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
hear that personally I just hope we're not the team that takes Stafford out
I would like to see what he can do with a full season under his belt.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Well, hear that I appreciate that.
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I was going to look it up, but......
the Vikings have won a gob* of home games. Do you think it’s just coincidence or is there some sort of home field advantage?
*gob = look it up yourself and tell me.
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by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I used to enjoy the games with the Lions...
and no, it isn’t because we usually won. But it was because the games were always close, and the Lions fans were easier to get along with. Now it just seems as if they think that they are entitled, and have turned into the same type of fans as those from our other two division foes, the Packers and the Bears.
Yes, you’ve got a lot of talent. But talent on paper doesn’t mean anything until you play the game. Will the Lions win on Sunday? Sure…there is a high probability that they will, but you never know the Vikings could just pull one out of their butts and surprise all of the experts.
One other thing about all that talent that you have on that team of yours. Just remember that you’ve had 8 top ten picks over the past ten years, and 5 fo those 8 were actually top five picks. So it is about fricken time that your team shows up as a contender.
Now this is a Vikings site and we are Vikings fans, so of course there is going to be some fans on our site that are optimistic about a Vikings win. So you’ll have to pardon us if we don’t just cave in and let your team win on Sunday.
We don't want them to cave
We earn our victories. As far as us feeling entitled, I’d say we do. We feel entitled to a competant GM which we now have. We are entitled to a competative team. Tell ya what, you put up with our previous GM ruining your team and causing you to be the embarassment of the league for so long and not feel good when it gets turned in the right direction.
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Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
maybe the title of the post set the tone?
I know personally, I’ve always liked talking football with Lions fans.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 21, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed....
It was the post itself that made me come and start defending our honor a bit. I know we need to earn our respect, but I don’t really enjoy being dismissed…..
I can understand that.
Truly have not met a single Viking fan who has wished bad for the Lions.
I myself am a member of POD. The only other team I joined last year..(joined Bolts a few days ago..because they have waitressess throwing 1000 dollars into crowds…that is a different story)
Also, I said somewhere a few days ago that if Vikes leave Minnesota, we would be Lions fans (along with being Vikings fans forever)!
My point is that, relax, take it easy. You are not in hostile environment.
+1
Yep. I like that the lions are finally starting to show some some teeth. I also truly appreciate the vast majority of Lions fans are not pricks.
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't feel hostile, just a bit chilly.... lol
But this is a division rival site, so I wasn’t really looking for warm fuzzies. Here’s to a good game with NO injuries on either side……
Hear Hear
I am all for NO (New Orleans’) injuries…I will buy Suh jersey if he does the deed… .I want my revenge for Favre’s broken angle!…wait a sec…why is your name Drews??
That aside..yes, looking forward to a a good game with the Lions. Let the better team on the field win without any injuries.
Agreed DrewsLions, Agreed.
Here’s to a good game. SKOL!
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
A Norse Salute
it is essentially a toast or salute to win with honor /success/respect/victory.
Others have different definitions.
Vikings Valhalla .com
by Admiral BigGun on Sep 23, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ain't SKOL that stuff that the Vikings cheerleaders have in their mouths to make em spit brown all day and make their teeth a little lighter shade of the normally dull brown?
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Actually...
It is believed that the term “Skol” was a term for a victory toast while drinking mead from the skulls of slain enemies.
But your lame attempt at an insult works as well.
Good luck with getting the ER to extract them from yer arses ;)
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Entitled? No.
If you want to like at something to do with titles, then take a look at the top of this article. Maybe you should understand that it is a slap at the Lions fans. I suppose I could have lived with the slap if the original post had anything of substance in it, but it really was nothing more than a taunt at Lions fans that said the Vikes will win because you are playing in the Metrodome, and the Lions are all hype. It was lame as hell.
I mean, if you guys are going to stir the pot, then at least bring something to the gunfight besides spitballs. Then when you do stir up a lot of garbage with provocative titles on your articles, don’t start complaining when the fans from the other team respond. I have not said anything in my posts that id not related to the teams and how they play on the field. I have not called anybody names. Neither has any other Lions fan here that I have seen.
Maybe you need to wrap your mind around the idea that your own guy opened this can of worms and he is the one you need to point fingers at for the tone of this article.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
by TuffLynx on Sep 22, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sure...one of our guys opened the can...
But he did it on “OUR” site. He didn’t go over to your site and piss in your cool-aid.
Maybe you should just relax a little…it is just a blog posting by the way. But of course I’m sure that I’m wrong once again, so I will bow out now.
Ahh, I see.
You feel that other fans won’t be reading your site the week before you play their team. So ti is all good to start talking trash to tweak them. Because nobody is looking, right? Doesn’t sound like the OP was thinking too clearly there.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
So...
you’re saying that no one over at POD has said anything bad about the Vikings? And you’re saying that we’re supposed to “control” everything that is stated on an open blog type website? Really????
And besides…the post really wasn’t all that bad. He didn’t call the Lions any names (like the famous ViQueens statements that are thrown around the web as well as on POD), nor did he say anything bad about color of the Lions’ uniform (like a certian member of POD has stated about the Vikings’ uniform), nor did he say anything bad about any of the Lions’ players, nor did he say anything about the Lions being a bad team…as a matter of fact he stated that the “Lions look darn good”.
Personally I’m happy for you that the Lions have finally showed up and have built a talented team, though having all of those high draft picks certainly didn’t hurt. But it doesn’t mean that I’m going to say that I think that the Vikings are going to lose on Sunday. I don’t care what the matchup looks like on paper, I’m just not going to root against MY team. No matter what argument you bring to this site. So thanks for visiting, but I’ll have to say that it hasn’t been fun.
Well, you can go to PoD and look can't you.
I just looked a few minutes ago and I didn’t see a single post that taunted the Vikings fans in the title. There are several posts about how the Lions might beat the Vikings, but I think that is what we are supposed to be talking about, not taking a slap at the fans from other teams.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Yeah...
and the few posts on our site are fact or reality-based…. not a hunch or some magical homefield advantage that makes talent irrelevant on the field.
Your right...
History has never played into anything in the NFL…ever.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Are you undefeated against us in the Metrodome?
No. History shows that we have won games there. How likely we are to win games there is based on the talent on the field, not some magical force field around the endzone.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Not since 1997....
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
So you're not undefeated against us in the Metrodome, you say?
Considering well over 75% of Lions teams since 1997 have been absolute hot garbage, I’m pretty sure there’s a correlation that has to do with something other than the choice of venue. =p
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
We can argue this all day...
but it is still history regardless of excuse…
Our shitty stadium has shitty turf, shitty lighting, shitty lockerrooms, and the is filled with the loudest, most ferocious fans in the league.
It must play some part into the equation. But streaks are born to die… it’s still history though.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
loudest, most ferocious fans in the league.
Chiefs and Seahawk fans would like a word with you…
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay...
They can come visit our sight too.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Both open-air stadiums..
and I live in KC now. The dome is much louder with the sound bouncing back off of the blimpy roof.
To make you feel better, I will add “IMO”.
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
actually I lived in Seattle for many years went to the Kingdome a bunch of times
and I think Minnesota has a louder stadium than the Hawks do. Once again that’s my opinion, but it’s the right one! :D
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
As for rooting against your team, nobody expects that.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Nor did he rec'd every comment.....
with the gratuitous and juvenile (and sub circa 1990’s) slang “WORD!”
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
I've got a question.
We’re confident in our team in basically the first time since the dark ages, and now we think we’re entitled? Why does it always have to be like that?
“I like my team and you think your team is better than my team WELL THE WORLD DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT, YOU’RE BEING A PRICK OF A FAN.”
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
If you note the quotation marks.
That was a hyperbolic paraphrasing of what you’re pulling.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
"a hyperbolic paraphrasing"
But the funny thing is that I never said that. That is what you are assuming that I meant…and that’s not cool.
I’m so sorry if you feel that way, but you shouldn’t…because I didn’t say that, nor did I mean that.
A vocabulary lesson real quick.
To paraphrase, verb: Express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, esp. to achieve greater clarity.
Essentially, what you are saying to us is, as follows, “you have confidence in your team and in your chances of beating us, therefore you think you are entitled now.”
Or, in terms of hyperbolic paraphrasing: “I like my team and you think your team is better than my team, well the world doesn’t work like that, you’re being a prick.”
Because yes, by saying that we are now entitled and are no better than Bears or Packers fans, you’re essentially saying we’re being pricks about it. If you didn’t intend that, then you communicated your point in a very incorrect way, because that’s all anyone can read from your words.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
So...what you're saying is...
“That I’m a dumbass because you’ve given me a vocabulary lesson”.
Because…that is what I “read from your words.”
And besides, did you actually read the rest of my post? I stated in plain english that “I’m so sorry if you feel that way, but you shouldn’t…because I didn’t say that, nor did I mean that.”
Ur really smart....
Hyperbolic is such a great word, especially:
1. you have the bends
2. are a math nerd
3. in theater
4. trying to impress, while using hyperbole wrong (as and adjetive), in which case “Prick” would be a direct summation of your feelings; where-as “your a PRICKly PRICK, worse than a 10,000 pound porcupine”, may be more of a hyperbolic phrase.
Just sayin’
I will not be PONDERing anything, ever again....I'm so tired of this pun. Maybe we could use antonyms to be different, like: "FORGET about last season, as we COGITATE about winning in 2011!"...Whatever, SKOL VIKES!!!
Uh.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, but there is certainly nothing wrong with using the adjective form of hyperbole.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 12:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
let's try and keep it civil
Prickly pricks by porcupines not with standing.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
I've always felt sorry for the Lions.
They got a real shitty deal for a really long time. I think it is about time they started to preform. I remember when I was hoping the Dolphins wouldn’t go 0-16 and the next year the Lions did, that is some really tough shit. Any fan that endures that, well they deserve better is an understatement.
I think the game will be close. If the Vikings manage to string 60 minutes together, it will be one hell of a game. That is a big if at this point though. The Lions vs Bucs is the only game worth comparing vs the Vikings and both teams did well, the Vikes just had a few EPIC FAILS in the 2nd half of both games they’ve played.
Always enjoyed the Lions fans, much easier to get along with than Bears or Pack fans. GL to both teams. Skol Vikings.
by FSUViking on Sep 21, 2011 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Good luck for sure.
Our run D was horrible in KC’s first drive. Their first 3 plays were all runs and went for 56 yards. The only thing that slowed their rungame was our offense scoring so much. If AP can be AP than you should be able to control the clock and have a real shot. The KC game got out of control so they kept throwing the ball and it just got worse. Your best defense is your run game and our best defense for your run game is our pass game.
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
I'm sure Charles getting hurt
also didn’t help matters much. How did that even happen btw? I never saw a replay.
Probably helped a bit.
He was running to the sideline and planted on the down marker on the ground and slid a bit to over extend.
My POD Main Fantasy Football league team will rule all!!
Standings thru 2 weeks
1- Fairley Suh-perb (Hyperion Ecta) 2-0
2- Epic Beardmen (Nate D) 2-0
3- Logan's Shakehouse (Me) 2-0
4- Ndominators (sgdbw90) 1-1
5- House Of Spears (Latif Masud) 1-1
6- Backus That Thang Up (lions_sucker ) 1-1
7- The Blue Suh Crew (DrewsLions) 1-1
8- West Coast Cruizers (JCruize) 1-1
9- LoJack Sack Pack (The Profiler) 1-1
10- Delmas Demolition (CapitolLions) 0-2
11- Better Than Mayhew (Sean Yuille) 0-2
12- Motown Madmen (Jettero2112) 0-2
Are we looking past the Vikings?
Not at all, in my opinion the Vikings are the most legitimate team we face so far. Your defense is still very good, AP is simply godlike, I’ve always liked McNabb and I think it’s only a matter of time before he gets into a groove, and he’s always dealt with a strong rush with poise, and there’s always a chance Harvin carves us up.
But do the Lions and their fans have alot to be excited about coming into this game? Decidedly, Yes. The Lions haven’t been favored against the Vikes in an obscene amount of years. We fans are so prone to hearing that “same ol Lions” argument that any post that resembles it generally garners a defensive attitude. But the facts remain, the Lions are riding on the shoulders of Matt Stafford’s hot arm (hopefully it can carry all of us). Our defense has shut down top runner Legarrette Blount, forced 6 turnovers on a Chief’s team that was 10-6 last year, and aside from playing some prevent D against Tampa late in the 3rd/4th, won games pretty decidedly as far as statistics go. So yes, we’re confident. Am I going to come into this thread and say EFF YOU LIONS R GUNNA WINN No. But there is reason to believe Detroit can pull this game off, and not by some miracle turnover, or a complete meltdown, by doing it the right way; outplaying your opponent, which, in previous seasons was unheard of. It’s a great time to be a Lions fan, we’re excited, we’re pumped, bring on the Vikings
Can’t wait for Sunday guys, I wish you guys luck and hopefully we can avoid injuries and see a great game of football.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
And on another note
I can’t wait to see how our D performs against your tight ends. I seem to recall cursing at Shiancoe many a time while watching Lions vs Vikes games in previous years
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I really appreciate this post.
And the title of this post does start us off on adversarial footing. Like you said, stating that you think your team is going to win isn’t putting the other team down. My original point that got attacked above was that if the Vikings play the Lions in a similar manner to that which they played the first half of the Bucs, they have a strong chance at winning. And that a comparison between the Vikings and the Chiefs were illogical. This should be a great game (I HOPE!).
P.S. I do know there are 2 halves to every game….
It's a valid point
Believe me, as a Lions fan I have ALOT of experience dealing with “ifs.” (if Calvin had caught that pass, if that penalty never happened, and yes, if we had played all 4 quarters). I never managed to catch the Bucs vs Lions game as I was on Lions mode from the minute i woke up to later that night, but I’ve looked at highlights and read the stat lines, the Vikings are not an 0-2 team, they are a team to be respected and I feel sorry for Schwartz and co. if they do not recognize them as such. But in previous years you might’ve been able to get away with letting off the throttle in the 2nd half, not this year my friend. The Lions are a new team, i expect the score to be very close at the half, hopefully the Vikes can remain competitive and we can really see how good both of our teams are, should be real interesting.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 21, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
bucs vs vikings rather*
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 21, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the post does...
come off a bit adversarial, though. He’s basically saying that this game is a reality check for us. The only conclusion to that is that our season thus far has not been realistic… meaning we are a fraud of a team. Sure, there are a few backhanded props in there, but the underlying tone is that the “Lions ain’t shit”. We are just here to support our team and throw a few facts in here about the Lions that many Vikings fans may not know……
Tufflynx! Hear ye! Hear ye!
This is how you make an argument.
Good post detpistons3
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I think you are just mad at me, so now you are looking to insult me when you get a chance.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Mad? I'm giving you a free education on how to make an argument. You're welcome.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
haha. you jelly bro?
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions
The only reason you think this way...
is because detpistons3 built the Vikings up a little more in his post. Tuff came at you in a little more confident (and might I add, well-backed up) manner…. that is why you are dissing him, I think. No?
No, I think it has to do with his out there arguments. There’s no way in hell the Chiefs are comparable to the Vikings — and trust me, if they were I’d be the first to say it. Seems like he was still looking at the Chiefs like they were that same 10-6 playoff team from last season, instead of the team that looked piss poor all preseason, and then got beat 41-7 by the Bills. The reality is, they or Indianapolis are probably going to be the worst team in the league this season.
So yeah, you blew them out. Great. But the fact is, so did Buffalo, and it wouldn’t be too surprising to see almost every team they play this season do so.
His tone seemed to be, we’re gonna blow you out of the water, and when people (winchesteronfieldville) called him out on his arguments, he basically just avoided the topic.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
But we also beat the team that beat them last week, so.......
I know… you are a Packer fan and feel like you have the ability to crown who you wish here…. but I also know you are a levelheaded guy from your time on the our site.
Either way, I think you… like the rest of the NFC North, shortchanging what we’re establishing in Detroit. It’s cool, though.
I don't think he's short changing you
I think he understands your team and doesn’t have the rose colored lenses. I don’t think anyone here really thinks that the Vikes don’t have to show something more than they have in the past two weeks to beat the Lions, I just think that we have it in us to play all 60 minutes of a game and when we do we’ll be a pretty tough team.
I am however a Vike fan been it all my life through bad and good. So you know that I am not a complete homer though I think the Vikes winning willbe a long shot unless we can figure out how to keep our team together and play excellent football, I don’t think anything else will have a chance at beating the Lions.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Yes, but from my understanding, the Vikings probably should have won that game. From the people I talked to, I was told that they basically choked it away — penalties and issues with formations on offense. Both of those are correctable things, ya know?
I don’t feel like I can crown anyone. I just feel like I have a good enough read on both teams to know that it’s not going to be some blow out or something like many of the Lions fans seem to be saying/implying.
I don’t mean to come off as short changing you guys.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Sep 22, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I have not seen one Lions' fan on here...
that has insinuated a blowout. I sure don’t. I expect to win this game and I am sure many Vikings’ fans feel the same way. I also know we have to earn respect, but I think many say what they say about the Lions without having seen them play this year. That TB game was not close. We handed them their ass for 3Q and through some stupid play, let them back in. Won’t happen again.
detpistons3
is reason to believe Detroit can pull this game off, and not by some miracle turnover, or a complete meltdown, by doing it the right way; outplaying your opponent, which, in previous seasons was unheard of.
vs.
Tufflynx
To win, the Vikings are going to need their best game of the season, by far, and some help from the Lions as well.
The Lions are capable of putting up 30 points on anybody in the league
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
You live by the 3's, you die by the 3's
a familiar phrase used for basketball. Same goes for the Lions. If Stafford isn’t spot on this offense will sputter. There is no power running game. I’m sure they’ll make 1 or 2 attempts to try it out, but they know they don’t have that mentality. Stafford has been hot, but every quarterback has its bumps in the road. You were fortunate to get ahead of the cheifs early and often, but if that perfect script doesn’t happen in the dome you’ll have to deal with silent snap counts which means a slower reaction for your linemen on the snap of the ball.
I’m expecting if the Lions win the toss they will receive. The Lions havn’t been tested on their run defense like your leading on. The Chiefs dug themselves too big of a hole to make any effort to establish a running game. The Bucs ran Blount 5 times?
If the Lions get out to an early 2 score lead off what will likely have to be long drives (the vikes will be dropped back to prevent big plays) then our chances really dwindle because McNabb is not comfortable enough yet behind this line to lead big comebacks. However if stafford is struggling, which is only a matter of time, then the Vikes should make the lions one dimensional and really bring heat.
The Lions don't live by the 3's, really.
The Lions are a hybrid of the same west coast offense (WCO) that the Vikings run. In the WCO, you often substitute short passes for the running game. That is the philosophy that the Lions take. If you look purely at the running game as the way that the Lions can methodically move the ball down the field then you are missing what they do completely. The offense is chock full of screen, dig, arrow, and wheel routes
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
I would argue Stafford hasn't been hot.
Cam Newton has been hot, Rex Grossman has been hot. Would you say Tom Brady has been hot? Obviously not, he’s been good and is playing at the level he’s capable of. Same with Stafford.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Absolutely
In fact, I would go as far as to say that Stafford has been shaky in the early parts of the games. He has settled down later and played well. Stafford still has plenty of room to improve his game.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
I would agree with you that if...
Stafford doesn’t play well, the Lions’ offense will have a really tough day. BUT…. that will be true for any game this season. We are a pass-first team and don’t apologize for it. Our coaches pride themselves on running a gameplan based on matchups… which is the right way to do things. We are not going to beat our heads against a brick wall just to establish a run game. If it’s not there, we open it up by attacking downfield. We are a very versatile team.
Here's tit for tat.
If Adrian Peterson isn’t spot on, this offense will sputter. There is no passing game. They will make 1 or 2 attempts to try it out, but they know they don’t have that mentality. Adrian Peterson has been hot, but every running back has its bumps in the road.
And for the record, the rule of 3s applies just as much to Minnesota as it does Detroit. Vikings fans think you’re going to come out strong in the first half again and they hope they’ll finally pull off the second half pull through. Guess what, that’s three too. I don’t know who watched Detroit’s games, but Detroit had its struggles in both games. Detroit didn’t beat either team wire to wire in resounding fashion, it didn’t cobble together some lucky bounces or fabricate some mirage of victory. They won the ball game soundly, period.
Tampa Bay started out slow against us too, their entire chances of winning any given game is pretty much linked to their ability in the two-minute offense. You take all the credit in the world for beating TB in the first half; well we beat TB in the first half too. The same slow, bad early game planning Buccaneers. The difference is, we played prevent defense for nearly a full half of football and completely abandoned our passing game, and TB still couldn’t come back against us.
You Vikings fans are getting hopped up on the fact that this is a home game and how we haven’t played anyone good yet and how you’re better than both teams we’ve faced. Well, that’s probably true, you are definitely better than KC and you could very well be better than TB. But being better than our opponents doesn’t count, you have to be better than us.
Here’s my prediction for the game: the better team will win. Happens more often than it doesn’t. It isn’t an outlandish prediction. No Lions fan will come here and say we’re going to blow you out. We fully expect AP to get his, we fully expect your defense to be strong. We’re not discounting your team’s heart, or your 12th man, or your love of your team. We’re simply saying, we think we win this.
Do you know why everyone loves rooting for the underdog? Because they rarely win it. It’s exciting, but it’s not likely.
And yes, I know I’m replying to a Lions fan, but this kind of strayed off my original point lol.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
I can't believe you are conceding that the Vikings are better than a team they just lost to .....AT HOME!
Come on Mav, us Lions fans are usually generous and polite but that is just ridiculous.
Tampa Bay was much better than the Vikings last year and they are better than the Vikings this year.
We have a better case to say we are better than the Packers as we beat them last year and barely lost to them at Lambeau. We outscored them in the two games by two points. Just ignore those other wins and that Super Bowl. The previous argument is a joke and I am in no way saying that we are better than the Packers…….right now.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
by NorthLeft12 on Sep 22, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Bring the heat all you want...
We have a sick screen game that will slow the rush down..Plus we use a ton of draw plays..and some end a rounds.
The lions are a better team. But the vikings are like a person who trying to survive, and we know a person trying to survive will do everything in their power to do so. I think it will be a close one but the Lions will be too much.
The Disassembly Line....nuff said.
Now there you go!
That is probably the best and most concise capsule of this game that I have read. I am not sure that the Lions are truly a batter team by the season’s end. At this moment they look like they are. The Vikes have some nice young talent on the team that needs to develop. If that all works out, the Vikes will be much better at the end of the season than they are at the start. It would be the reverse of last season.
The thing that worries me most about this game is how desperate the Vikings will be. The Vikes need a win and they are in their house. That is probably worth 10 points on the scoreboard right there. The bottom line will be if the Vikes defense can stop the Lions enough times for their running game to take control on offense. If the Vikes can stop the Lions enough to tire the Lions defense then the Vikes could pull out a win.
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A brief memo to you Lions fans…
This is getting a little out of hand.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 22, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions
Point out the comment here.
That uses the word Viqueens? We understand this is your house and we are your guest, all of us took our shoes off before walking on your carpet.
Bit out of context there, eh mate?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
It’s more you guys coming on here telling us why we’re going to lose. Arguing is welcomed, but some of the comments on here are pushing guest limits.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 22, 2011 10:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
However, I understand a little hostility. The post was a bit sketchy, but still, our site, our team, our rules.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 22, 2011 10:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Even if the rules are bunk, I guess.
I would also point out that it is not YOUR site or YOUR rules. The site belongs to SB Nation which every one of these fan sites are a part. If you decide to deviate from the rules that are established by SB Nation for each site you may find they are not enforceable.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Haha,
tell that to the guy Chris just banned for talking crap on here. And when did I say that this was my site? I said it’s OUR site, OUR team, OUR rules. And it is.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 22, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that Chris guy is a really tough one...
That gonzo guy was so much more laid back… I wonder what happened to him? ;)
In all honesty, I feel it would be far more likely for said moderator to side with cowbell on this one.
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 22, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
We're not acting any differently than we've acted in years past.
Optimistic about our chances. No matter how bad we’ve been, we’ve always been optimistic. Except in the past there wasn’t much bite to that bark, and now there is, and NOW you’re going to pull rank on it? Any of the comments pushing guest limits is fine and dandy, but the “memo” you posted was pretty obviously about one thing, one thing none of us has done.
If our decorum is bad enough on a guest blog that one of you feel the need to ban us wholesale, then go ahead, because that’s ridiculous.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
I stayed out of this until Tuff and I recorded our podcast but let me say this
The Lions are 2-0, the Vikings are 0-2. Las Vegas, you know the place where people put their money where their mouth is? Well they have the Lions as favorites in your home field. The Lions fans are not the ones acting like they are entitled here. I don’t care about what happened last year or several years before. I don’t care about what teams did with players who are now on other rosters or even retired did. All I know is that on any given Sunday any team can win, of course you have a shot, however this year the Lions are 2-0 and the Vikings are 0-2. We are not the ones living off entitlement from the past and trying hold on to former glory.
The difference is that you guys HOPE to beat us, where we EXPECT to beat you. That is why it would be an upset for you to win, no one expects you to, not even Las Vegas. I understand as fans that you want to support your team and have that hope, but don’t act all condescending and self righteous when as the favorites in the game, on any neutral ground possible, we do indeed have the right to feel good about our chances of winning.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 22, 2011 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
If anyone is interested in the podcast
The link is here.
It is a preview of Sunday game from two knowledgeable Lions fans. The podcast is not rah-rah stuff, but more of keys to the game analysis.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 22, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
That is exactly our point…
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Sigh. Podcast with Tuff?Birds with same feather.
I’m ok about you guys feeling good. In fact I expect you guys to win. But if you expect your team to walk all over ours. Ha! We’ll go down swinging.
Where I disagree with Tuff:
To win, the Vikings are going to need their best game of the season, by far, and some help from the Lions as well.
The Lions are capable of putting up 30 points on anybody in the league
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 22, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't any logical Lions fan is expecting a Chief-esque blowout of the Vikes
But yes we expect to win…maybe even handly
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Nah I would be surprised it the point spread got beyond 14, in fact I expect something more along the 4-10 range
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Thats great, now where is the money behind that statement? Know of any way to place a bet between us on paypal? Care to put your money where your mouth is?
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I have realised the true purpose of the Daily Norseman.
Because of one post, we have taken a game that I was almost reluctant to watch, just because I couldn’t take another 2nd half meltdown, into a game that I’m all fired up about. This is now the only game that matters. It’s the start of the season for us. It will get the ball rolling. There is still hope.
The Vikings will have their first Victory come Sunday and the Lions will start questioning their season. I’m sure of it. (no bets though)
Trash talk has made my week.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
It does always make things more interesting doesn't it?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It makes for a good time.
Haven’t felt like this since the first game of the 2010 season against the Saints.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Time for the Lions to step up and be the bully on the block
We have had our ass kicked for so long, we deserve to rise up and bask in the glory for a while. As a Lions fan of course I see my team on the rise. And as Vikings fans of course you guys will see your team as the ones to prove everyone wrong. The true common ground, and ability for us to both revile in delight will be watching the Bears fall apart this year with that soap opera that is going on in Chicago.
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I hope I don't get too much trouble for this next statement..
but at the end of the season, if the Lions represent the NFC north, I will be rooting for them. In the end, I guess I’m a North supporter. My reasoning is that “THE NFC NORTH IS THE TOUGHEST DIVISON IN FOOTBALL”. If it can’t be the Vikings, than it will have to be the next best.
Cutler is the punching bag of the NFL. How much more can he take?
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh I watched Favre go up against the Saints
I remember the battle you guys had here with Saints fans, even the year after in the kick off match up. I watched that one too. I watched the Packers this year and actually rooted for them, so I know where you are coming from. The Bears are the only NFC North team I always root against actually. Hell I have Jared Allen and Antoine Winfield on my FF team. To me, I always root for teams in the NFC North because to be the best you have to beat the best, and there is a certain pride I take in being in the best division in football. Hell lets face it, all those years where the Lions got beat up on, would we have been in the NFC West we probably would have been a wildcard team. So I totally get where you are coming from. Hell I even was rooting for you guys against the Chargers and Bucs. Watched most of the Chargers game, and all of the Bucs game.
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I always root for the NFC North in the playoffs.
Well, maybe not the Bears.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
I STILL
get dry heaves when I remember who won last year. I could root for you guy’s if you make it to the dance, but not the Bears or Pukers. I just have too many friends who are fan’s of those teams and you can never get them to shut up about it. My best friend is a Bear fan and every 5 minutes he say’s “1985, 1985!” Shut the hell up about it already!
I remember liking the Jim McMahon era Bears.
I guess that kinda dates me.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well the Superbowl Schuffle was the shizz
Who could not love Walter Payton? And Singletary, and Dent, and the FRIGE and well, it was a blue collar hard nosed team, even I liked them and I friggin hate Da Bears.
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true true
had to love the swagger of that bears team. Had to respect sweetness.
(never did warm up to McMahon thou… hated that stupid dark visor and hated it more when he played for the Vikings)
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 23, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey just think, you guys will have Matthew Stafford starting for you someday, like 20-30 years from now, after they graft a bionic shoulder to him
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How did the Culpepper experiment went by the way? :/
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It worked out excellent
because we ended up with Stafford. Also I’m looking forward to the days a Christian is fed to the Lions.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 23, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about you.
But I’d rather have not Stafford if it means having a winless season.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
This is my new favorite post.
I am now REALLY looking forward to being at this game (I’ll be the guy up in Section 233 with horned hat on).
Thank you Lion fans! Glad you are here.
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 11:05 AM CDT reply actions
Thats a vague description of location...
;)
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 22, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll also be wearing purple
:-)
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 23, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
For the record, Vikes fans.
The reason we’ve been a little… shall we say, vigorous about the smack talk is probably because we didn’t get much out of Chiefs fans. After getting blown out by the Bills, they were so down on their team we didn’t really have the heart to tell them how much we’d own them, and they practically smack talked themselves the entire week.
So you’re basically getting pent up smack talk from two weeks on-going, it’s practically post bye-week smack talk. That said, I’m sure we’re all nice and pumped up for this game. May the better team on Sunday win and may the beer flow forever.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
nicely said
if the game is as good as this smack talk, we are all in for a real treat!
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 22, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
That might have been the only time where I went over to a opposing site, told them they had a good team, and their response was otherwise…..
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I am surrounded by Chiefs fans here in the lower midwest.
The stupid thing is that most of the games they show are Chiefs or Rams and the local paper always has big articles on the Chiefs and Rams. It’s hard to get your Vikings fix unless you suffer through a game off the internets with the exception being the Favre seasons. There were lots of afternoon and evening games in 09 and 10 that the networks covered. I was amazed at the number of games I got to see.
The good days are gone now. It’s back to Chiefs – Rams. Chiefs – Rams……….
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally I like smack talk
I generally make a thread up at the Dallas and Saints SB Nations web sites the week before the match, because talking smack is hella fun with people who don’t take it seriously. Now they know me down on both sites so we don’t get to many people taking it seriously and that’s the key. Here I think people got a little upset and started to take things personally and you just can’t do that when your messing around.
By the way Glassford is going down like a cheer leader on prom night (took that name from your site!) Suh is going to get stuck in a turnstile trying to get into the dome and Calvin Johnson is going to, well he’ll probably make our secondary look like a bunch of guys from St. Mary’s school for the blind… BUT STAFFORD IS GOING DOWN!!!!
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Yeah yeah and maybe Donovan McBlabb will actually have a good season for once instead of just talking about it
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Or not! Talk on Donovan, we almost believe you... almost
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And... if Hutch is still a top caliber RG he will take on Suh one on one, mano y mano, and we will see who the best man is!
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Most teams are going to double suh
just like most teams will double K Will. But I’m not worried about Suh, Sully is the best center in the NFL and he’ll crush Suh for certain! or at least cause him to trip as Suh rolls over his mangled body.
However, I would feel pretty good if Suh lined up against Hutch every down. Hutch might be getting long in the tooth but he’s a tricksy one and with age comes experience.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
shut up I'm repressing right now..
Just imagine Sully is Birk…
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Bleh good catch, if Suh lines up on your RG and goes one on one your going to have to put Jarred Allen at QB
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Actually, Id rather have Harvin...
Now that’d be interesting
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 22, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey no reason to get evil!
McNabb is just a loaner and honestly if I want to hear how much he sucks I can just go to other threads on this site! :D Especially after that San Diego game…
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Yeah I did not pull out the 39 yards thingo, but hey in his defense I did tell the Bears fan that thought Cutler was the best QB in the division that McNabb has him beat on credentials
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The delightful thing about the Vikes is their stunbborness and predictability
They havent and wont pay the least bit of attention to anything other than the past. They beat us before and they will beat us again. Why? Well because they have beat us before. And we are just the Lions.
Every year we yap and yap and every year we go home with a loss. Thats all most of you guys know. They’ve beat us there since they were little kids and thats the way it is. It wont be till sometime in the late third quarter that the fact they are going to lose will penetrate that thick Nordic brain case. (Im Scandihoovian, Norwegian extraction, so I know all about what it takes to get a new thought inside 6 inches of bone lattice) They will at that point come to the conclusion the game is rigged, (the Raiders fans paranoia has nothing on the average Vike fan) that the League hates them, load up a triple shot of Aquavit and go work on the snowmobile.
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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 22, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, stubbornness as well
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by YpsilantiJeff on Sep 22, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I like you're new word.
After the Vikings “STUN” the detroit fans with their victory, the press can use that word over and over after every other Viking win. The team that brought “stunbborness” to the game.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean "your new word". I've got your disease now.
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 22, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
was better on your site.
but I’m still a big fan of the akvavit. Oh and the NFL does hate us.. Only because they FEAR US!!!!
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
The delightful thing about Lions fans is they finally have something to look forward to
Seriously where have you guys been the last 10 years? I have lived in MN for 30 years and have never run into a Lions fan until this year. I have run into all sorts of other fans from almost every other team, but the Lions were always missing.
Now you win two games, one against a horrible Chiefs team and you think you have the priveledge to come onto other teams boards and talk about how you are going to dominate the other team.
Could the Vikings lose, definetly, we are not the same team that we were a couple of years ago and we are trying to find our identity this year, but you will not find any posts of mine or many of any Vikings fans coming over to POD over the last couple of years and ripping your squad. It may have happened to you guys in the past, but by doing so now you are no better than what those fans were doing to you.
I have no problem with chatting about matchups and who we think is going to win. But some of this has been beyond ridiculous. Lions fans were always gracious in defeat, but it appears that once you have tasted victory many of you are not so gracious in victory. Not to mention that you have only won 2 games so far this year. Not saying that you are a bad team, but I have cheared for many great teams in the past and have seen my teams lose to inferior opponents. Be careful with your optimism since the higher you put your team on the pedistal the worse it feals when they come crashing down.
Just my advice from watching numerous teams that were good enough, but happened to fall at the wrong time.
Get it right bud, we have won 6 in a row, 3 on the road, and last I checked one of them against the Vikings
As for us being over here, seriously look at the title of the post
Sorry Detroit Fans but….
If you don’t want us here, then don’t make posts addressing us and telling us how our team is going to lose.
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Its like, here let me throw a rock and then cry to momma when a rock gets thrown back
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I believe that he said that...
“you have only won 2 games so far THIS YEAR.”
Last year doesn’t matter one bit.
Actually he said.... heck I was just going back 6 games, I did not even bring up that you guys finished last in the division last year.
Seriously where have you guys been the last 10 years?
Granted we only finished one spot better but hey its one spot, and right now we are two wins better, so what if we feel good about our team. The here and the now says we are a better team until you guys prove otherwise.
I don’t begrudge you to think you can do that, so why do you guys act all Debbie drama when we come over to defend our team, in a thread that was specifically addressed to us, pointing out that we were going to lose when in fact we are the favorites to win, despite you having home field advantage?
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I have no problem defending your own team...
My point was in years past their would never have been a thread like this. Now you win a couple of games and you guys act like SB champs. Also most of my post was in reply to YpsilantiJeff who’s post was directed mainly at us fans and I was replying to his arrogance.
The Lions are 2 wins better and have a very good chance at finishing with a better record than my Vikings this year. It very well could be a down year for us. However it is only 2 weeks in and we still have many of the same players that were on the team when we went to the NFC championship game 2 years ago. Their is still plenty of talent on our team and we showed when we played the Chargers that we are still capable of having a chance at winning any game this year, even if our QB only throws for 39 yards.
As a fan of a team that has been up and down over the last 10 years I have seen us split with division rivals when we have been both better and worse than them in the same season. For Lions fans to be so irate in us thinking that we can win this game and to come over pronuncing victory before the game has been played is ridiculous in my mind. Defending their team yes, but much of the above as been beyond that.
Well two thoughts
1) I see just as many Vikings super fans as Lions super fans, so meh, it is just pat of fandom. Every team will always have the bipolars.
2) Many Lions fans have been suffering for so long that I don’t think you can appreciate the perspective unless you were a Lions fan yourself. It is like growing up as a fat kid and then becoming a Gym rat in your 20’s or something. Of course you are going to go nuts tagging all the action you can get, you have been deprived and abused for years. Some folks just have a lot of pent up angst to let out, literally decades of it.
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Unfortunately, this goes both ways.
We think we’re going to win a game and folks tell us to stop acting like super bowl winners.
You think you’re going to win a game and folks tell you to stop putting their team down.
Confidence seems to be mistaken for cockiness on both sides. It’d be nice if everyone could just crack a beer, throw some stats and stories around and have a good time.
I think the Lions are going to win, but by no means am I putting money on a super bowl victory yet. It is your home field, you guys will play us tough because you are tough. I expect a good game and a blowout either way would just be disappointing, that’s not what I want.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I do like how you guys didn't finish at .500 last year
but now are pretty much heading to the Super Bowl…
Now that’s a change in pace. You all must have done some serious work in the non existent off season.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Healthy Stafford and a very productive free agency period does that to you.
But I’ll remind you, again, that YOU’RE the ones crowning us. None of us have said we’re Super Bowl bound.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Just by judging some of the comments
From our perspective, it “appears” that some of the Detroit fans are acting like they’re SB bound. That’s all. It is true that I haven’t heard anyone come out and say it. Honestly, I think it’s the fact that you guys are just really excited about your team so in the bloggies it sounds like you think it’s SB or bust this season for detroit. I have seen in a few spots where Lions fans stating that they think they can make the playoffs this year, but its still up in the air and that’s probably closer to where I think Detroit expectations should be. Either way, I’m having a blast with this thread.
Skol!
Were not acting like we are SB bound at all
Could it happen? Sure, who knows. At this point, in week two though LoL at anyone mentioning super bowl, and from what I have see, its all Purple Thingy Eaters making those posts ;)
No we just expect the Lions to contend with the Packers for the division, maybe we can win it, maybe not, if not then to at least contend for a wild card spot, if we don’t make it oh well, but we expect about 10-6 give or take depending on how the breaks go for us.
The thing is, we expect the Vikings and Bears to be fighting it out to stay out of the cellar. Honestly I could see the Vikings in the same position as the Lions with a couple of key moves pre trading deadline. You guys really need a deep threat receiver though, and some offensive line help for that to happen IMO.
The Bears, well this is the season it all comes apart for them, Lovie will be lucky to have his job next year. Too bad, because he seems like a really bad coach, I was hoping he would stick around and drive that team into mediocrity for a while.
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Isn't that a bit of hubris on your part?
Us thinking we’ll beat you handily means we think we’re a lock for the playoffs or SB bound? Isn’t that giving you guys a little too much credit? Just a little?
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Just like last year, amirite?
Ooohhh… yeah. Tsssss. Sorry.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
6 in a row...
I take everything back since 6 in row allows for all sorts of bragging rights…
Also didn’t know that my name was PATxMADDENKING, and honestly from what I read of the post it was stating that the Lions are horrible or even that the Vikings are a better team. It just stated that he is expecting the Vikings to win… Can’t blame a fan for that can you?
Not trying to ruffle any feathers here, as their has been plenty of ruffling going on already. Just stating that it may be a little premature to crown yourselves as being a great team already, are their signs of greatness, yes, but to act like you are going to roll every team that you play due to a winning streak, 2 or 6 or what ever you want to call it, may be jumping the gun a little.
I never crowned us, just pointed out that we are the favorites in this game
Nice try to put words in my mouth but uh, no go buddy
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Winning is meaningless if you don't get into playoffs. Without further adieu, let's talk bout playoffs...
Buehler…….
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"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions
What 3 in 10 years? LoL you SUCH a contender, yeah 30% of the time in the last decade, not really something to hang your hat on
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Yeah 3 in 19 years. Terrible! Now..
compare that to your team.
What can you say bout the Lions?
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
*10
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
We never said we were contenders, just a better team than you this year, condescending much?
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Trash talking is fun!
If you getting hemorrhoids from reading my post. I will politely stop. ;)
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
hemmorrhoids no
A little nauseous perhaps
Someone is alive today simply because I can't afford a hitman.
by Justan Oldfart on Sep 23, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I suggest taking the brown bag off your face.
It’s the Lions new era. No need to hide anymore.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I told my girl she was pretty.
But if she could lose 10 more pounds, she’ll be even prettier.
Respect with trash talk = not so beautiful
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The reason we’ve been a little… shall we say, vigorous about the smack talk is probably because we didn’t get much out of Chiefs fans. After getting blown out by the Bills, they were so down on their team we didn’t really have the heart to tell them how much we’d own them, and they practically smack talked themselves the entire week.
So you’re basically getting pent up smack talk from two weeks on-going, it’s practically post bye-week smack talk. That said, I’m sure we’re all nice and pumped up for this game. May the better team on Sunday win and may the beer flow forever.
OMG lol i remember prior to the Chiefs game trying to convince them that their team wasn’t so bad and maybe they could pull it out….lol.. I tried to get them to feel better about their team prior to that azz whooping they themselfs predicted … that was no fun. Felt like i was talking to a depressed friend that girl friend just dumped him lol.
But i am not gonna lie here. I think the Lions will win really big. Only because the Lions are kinda built to run up the score and we really can’t pound it out on the ground… that is really what happen in the Chiefs game. The coaches just decided that instead of burning clock to just build the score board and let it steam roll…. we play better that way…. and at the moment the only way to defend Calvin Johnson is to hit Stafford on every other throw….. I think that my theory on why i think it will be a blow out isn’t grounded in disprespect to the Vikes.. i am infact admitting a weakness in the Lions.. Our strenght isn’t ball control and grinding it out…. and after allowing the Bucs to come back by just running it and punting the ball i think they learned a lesson with how this current roster has to close games…. and that is to continue to attack…. i expect titus young to be a big surprize and for Calvin to be quiet except for catching TDs… maybe 3 TD….. this i believe will play to the Vikings weakness of throwing the football and having to deal with the Lions Dline in constant pass rush mode and AP not getting the touches as the team is in catch up…. basiclly steam rolling down hill because the Lions playing to their strenghts and Vikes playing to their weakness…
I do think that if the Vikes win it will be because AP has a big game and has long runs…if he isn’t making big plays and if he doesn’t score 3 TD i don’t think the Vikes win it…. i think 41- 17 Lions…. but not out of disrespect.. just a bad match up for the Vikes
Lol this is so true +100000000
I almost felt bad, and they actually came up with worse disses on their team than I could ever come up with.
It would of almost been like calling a retarded kid stupid repeatedly… there’s just no point or enjoyment.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda like talking to Detroit fans when he who must not be named was still in control
Always felt bad for you guys then… Personally I always wondered if it was your ownership just not giving a damn, or wanting to spend any money.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
The best chance the Vikings have to win
Is if Brett Favre somehow shows up and plays instead of McNott… If we’re going to win anything this year, it will be because of a miracle. I’m looking at a 5-11 season, unless Donovan is benched for Christian, then we’ll be a little bit better.
After ALOT of searching...
1st prize goes to Rodgers does not rank Favre in his top 5 QB’s!
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 22, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
*sigh*
Good Times. What ever happened to R4F? I kinda took a major break from this place for a while…
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 22, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh sad...
I miss him and his crazy optimism… Even if he was a little too over the top.
by Vikingsfan17 on Sep 23, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
VIKES WIN GUARANTEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRETT FAVRE IS MY DADDY!!!!!
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
He had a lot of isms, not sure if it was optimism though
Favrism
Fourism
Brettism
well, that’s about it
ooohhhh oooohhh and Anti-ARism
Skol!
How in the world did you find that?
That’s hilarious stuff! Make’s me curious as to where Deek and that old curmudgeon puddinhead went.
Holy crap! There's like 300 posts here and about 3000 signature lines from a guy who's got a POD something.
What the heck is a POD Main Fantasy Whatnot?! And why has it overtaken my laptop screen?!
I am happy to welcome Lions fans and their silver pride over here at the DN but could you keep that POD nonsense over at your own site, please? Please be considerate of others and leave your graffiti signatures back in Detroit.
by kcskol on Sep 22, 2011 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
LoL oh great, now we are going to have to argue about what city has more grafiti.. .THANKS ;)
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No need to argue...
I will admit defeat in that Detroit has more graffiti than Minneapolis ;)
Well sure, we have more creative thinkers here in Detroit
Besides it takes some effort to go out there and paint graffit instead of sitting on your couch, ruffling yer skirts, and twirling yer braids as you sigh about the dreamy years of Favre and eagerly await the arrival of his latest cell phone photo.
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 22, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey on the plus side, I think I found a deep threat receiver for you guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=PInDbfGP5Ac
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Creativity?
Didn’t know that it was creative to destroy ones city with graffiti, but if you call it creative than I will not disagree.
Some of it looks better than the dull gray cement, some of those guys are worthy of being called artists if you ask me
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Stuff like this is pretty awesome if you ask me
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I will agree
Honestly I wish they had a different name for street art than graffitti. When I hear graffiti I immediately think of the crap that gets sprayed on street signs and garbage cans and what not. The above pics are well beyond that.
I work for the railroad
and some of the finest art I’ve even seen is on the side of a rail car (many, many of them). Wish these people would put it to more constructive use but most of us (i’m not officially saying this) don’t mind.
art is much like blogging/writing
Its really difficult to make a career out of it
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Exactly
It takes a huge amount of dedication! We’re very fortunate on this site and yours, to have a lot of those type of people! (your site has some very talented fan post writers, and ours just keep getting better and better. We have a lot of young guys, which I really think is cool). I’ll check out House of Spears.
House of Spears is kind of dead...
I’m doing most of my work for POD now:
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/9/22/2442478/minnesota-vikings-defense-detroit-lions
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/9/21/2438805/minnesota-vikings-offense-detroit-lions
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I am an older guy
So I will take Angelina Jolie.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Michele
was a dream. but to outold you I had a thing for Angie Dickinson.
Someone is alive today simply because I can't afford a hitman.
by Justan Oldfart on Sep 23, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Your forgetting...
Linda Carter (she STILL looks good)
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 23, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Being a hobo does not mean you work for the rail road..
You eat your bean out of a can like everyone else… Now be quiet and huff your sterno.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Evilsmurf why do i get this feeling we are one broke bottle away from a full on duke boys bar fight
But you know us guys we can knock each others teeth out and still have a drink together.. why can’t women do that? lol
I dunno, but I will take a cat fight any day of the week as thoroughly entertaining
Or even a WWE diva match ;)
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by Evilsmurf on Sep 23, 2011 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I just completely forgot about football.
Now, who’s playing again?
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon
by JethroBoViking on Sep 25, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I was looking for somewhere to have a knowledgeable and entertaining discussion about football with the opposing team.
I’m going to keep looking. There seems to be too much hostility in this thread coming from all sides. Its rather sad. Oh well, good luck this Sunday. I hope its a competitive game.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
"Only a real man quotes himself in the 3rd person" - Nate D. circa 2011
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Then why post that?
Because you want to provoke mischief. Keep looking, and don’t drive by post.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 22, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll rip your god damn face off. GO LIONS. Now lets go eat a god damn sandwich!
jk, about the first part.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions
ROFL!
can we at least agree that it should be a Bacon sandwich?
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 23, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Thats even more funny if you envision Rex Ryan saying it, dunno if you guys saw Hard Knocks or not
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Lol yeah but Rex says "Snack"
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's something kind of weird that I just ran across
I don’t think Ponder was drafted as the QB of the future. I think he was drafted as the GM of the future!
because he got an MBA?
whew…there are a ton of people in the country that are qualified then….
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Holy smokes!
There are air molecules!? I always thought air was Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide and several trace elements!
that might be in Minnesota
Here its mainly particulates from the auto plant mixed in with some Nitrogen and oxygen…
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by Latif Masud on Sep 22, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
To clear up some confusion.
I’ve noticed a fair amount of Vikes fans that seem to be under the opinion that we’re crowning our ass or that we’re buying Super Bowl tickets or that we’re 100% sure we’re going to win or that we’re going to blow you out.
Nothing of the sort. What we are is a 2-0 team against an 0-2 team that’s favored on the road. Who wouldn’t like their odds? If you watch the games objectively, don’t pay attention to who we play, pay attention to how we play, and tell me you don’t see a good team in the Lions. Why do you think the pundits are hyping us? You don’t think they realize we’ve only played KC and TB? They see how good we look, and know that we’re still improving, and they’re buying what we’re selling.
I’ll say this. I wouldn’t on my drunkest bender bet on this game. I wouldn’t play the spread, I wouldn’t bet the over/under, and I wouldn’t guess straight up. I wouldn’t put my money on this game. But I will put my mouth on this game (no homo), as evidenced by the smack talk.
I fully expect to be surprised come Sunday. Pleasantly surprised with a win or surprised with a loss. Trying to predict the outcome is always a crapshoot, and I’ll tell you guys I had you guys marked down as an upset against us in my pre-season predictions.
Notable upsets I’ve got include us losing at Minnesota and Dallas and winning against Atlanta.
It’s right there in POD’s story archives and it’s verifiable. I’m a realist, but I keep that realism over at POD. Over here, I’m here to rep my team and talk smack. You’re going down, Vikes! Go Lions!
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
To clear up more confusion (in a historical sense)
The Minnesota Vikings have a total of 28 playoff appearances. The Detroit Lions have a total of 14. This, despite the fact that Detroit has been in the league for about 23 years MORE than the Vikings! So, best case scenario, you could catch up to our awesomeness in about a decade and a half! We have 4 Super Bowl appearances, you guys, none, and doubt that you,ve ever made it out of the first round honestly. Your most famous players are the 2 BS’s, Barry and Billy (that I can think of) and ours are Eller, Page, Marshall, Tark, Moss, Foreman – shit this is a long list. It’s called street cred fellas!! :P
It's cool.
You guys take your history, we’ll take the right now. Have fun with that. :)
Also, correcting the facts.
The Lions franchise has been around 31 years longer than the Vikings.
You have four championship appearances, we have four championship appearances. You have won one championship, we have won four.
Yes, we have made it out of the first round. We’ve appeared in a conference championship during the early 90s.
Also, you can’t play the “most famous” players game like that. If you’re going to cut us off at two, then you cut yourself off at two. If you want to list six guys, I’ll list six guys. Barry Sanders, Dick LeBeau, Night Train Lane, Joe Schmidt, Alex Karras, Lomas Brown… and you can’t tell me those aren’t famous players, because every NFL fan worth their salt knows those guys. Want to go more than six? I’m down.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
by Mavyrk on Sep 22, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
Ok thanks. My research was done hastily. Joe Schmidt. Now there was a cool person – Detroit Lions linebacker Joe Schmidt allowed Pat Swilling to wear his retired number 56 when Swilling was acquired in 1993. – You already know this story I’m sure but that strikes me as being a damn cool dude!
Most definitely.
Joe Schmidt, imo, is our greatest defender of all time. But maybe Suh will usurp him eventually. It would take one hell of a HoF career though.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
You forgot
Bobby Lane, Dick “Night Train” Lane, Dick Lebeau, Alex Karras, Charlie Sanders, Herman Moore, Robert Porcher, Chris Spielman, Lomas Brown, Kevin Glover, Jerry Ball, Bubba Baker, Less Bingaman, Dexter Bussy, Doug English, Mel Gray, Greg Landry, Bret Perriman, Doak Walker, Mike Coffer and I am sure I am forgetting many others
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You are.
Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson, Ndamukong Suh.
Oh, and let’s not forget the greatest Lion of all time: Jason Hanson
Yeaaaah booooiiiiii.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
So, I had to look up Jason Hanson
And the Wikipedia picture is of him kicking the game winning field goal over the Minnesota Vikings. Well played.
LOL
You mean to tell me in the past 20 years you don’t know who Jason Hanson is? I mean I guess I’d expect that from some AFC team, but come on, this is NFC North history we’re talking.
Also, my favorite fact on that Wikipedia article:
Became the second player in league history to score 200+ points against 3 different teams (Packers, Bears, Vikings)
.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
He's been playing since before I was born.
So I’m a relative newcomer as a fan.
That would apply for me too then
and I still know who he is…along with Morten Anderson and Martin Vandergadt
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Yes Evilsmurf
that is an excellent list (as is Mavyrk’s) . I sure do remember Herman Moore and Perriman pissing me off more than once! I kind of lost it for Alex Karras once he decided to be a co-star on Webster cause that is just a little to flakey for my taste, but many of your guys have gone on to be very good people, as for instance Doug English, who is also the President of the Lone Star Paralysis Foundation. That actually means something. You guys got anyone more studly than a Minnesota Supreme Court Justice over there?
Hm, that's a tough one...
It’s really hard to beat Page’s resume in terms of non-football related activities.
Doug English and Mike Utley both went on to found Paralysis foundations. Stephen Peterman, our current RG, has a foundation set up for disadvantaged and terminally ill youths in the LA/MS/TX tri-state area. Various other foundations. No Supreme Court Justices, though.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
I have a football card from when i was younger
that said “Sherman Moore” Sometimes with those errors, the card is worth a lot more because of its rarity, but it was actually worth less.
Skol!
Hmm, well Jack Kemp was drafted by the Lions in 1957
He became a U.S. Senator and a presidential candidate. I don’t think he every actually played for the Lions though. I think he ended up playing for the Steelers and Giants.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Reading the comments here is almost as fun as watching the game itself.
The last thing I’m going to do is get overly confident. It’s nice to see my team finally winning. I am a football fan and want to see a good game. I think we’ll win, but if we lose it isn’t like it would be the first time. Boy I have got to get better at this smack talk thing. Good luck to your team and you fans.
I know I should never wish anyone to get hurt.
But, it’d be nice if McNabb broke a wrist or something and had to be taken out. I want to see what ponder can do in the NFL. I went to FSU and saw him play… he was definitely talented. I think McNabb getting hurt would actually help your team in the long run.
Now lets go eat a god damn sandwich
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 2:16 AM CDT reply actions
I'd rather McNabb just play terribly and have to be benched or something.
DMac is too nice to wish injury upon, I love that guy.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
I respect the hell out of him because he's shut him mouth when he's been dealt some pretty shitty cards over the years
Complete class act. Broken wrist is a bit much. I would go be ok with like a sprained ankle. Something that makes him sit out 4-6 weeks. Also, if he just plays back that means that we lose the game. I would rather the small injury come up and have to sit him and have Ponder get his first W.
Skol!
Yeah. I guess so... my point was an innocent injury. Not like a broken neck or something.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If you make it I will eat it...
but honestly right now, to far…
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Attention Lions QB:The Vikings playing field is 120 yards long. Not 122,121,123...but 120 yards long.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 2:28 AM CDT reply actions
Attention Vikings Fan: Dan Orlovsky is on the Colts. Not the Lions, Bears, Packers... but the Colts.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Attention Viking Kicker: The Goal Posts are 18ft,6in apart. Not 19,20,21...but 18ft,6in apart.
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by Mavyrk on Sep 23, 2011 3:16 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That was pretty cold of me.
But still, Orlovsky? C’mon!
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
If you happen to find a photo of Jim Marshall running the wrong way and post it
you’re out of here buster! (actually I crushed my right foot very severely about 2 months ago and really, with this big ass boot thing I’m sporting, find a lot of solace in this site and appreciate having something to do since I can’t really get around all that great yet.)
Hey.
As long as you guys don’t bring up 0-16, my pictures of Herschel Walker remain unposted. I think we’re pretty clear on where the line is, lol.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
^^This.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 24, 2011 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Also.
How’d you crush your foot? That sucks, I know what you’re going through (vicariously through my brother.)
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
It got crushed
by a huge fork that fell off a huge fork lift. Pending litigation prohibits me from saying much about it, but they basically feed me Vicodins from a cereal bowl, which is the main reason I am even up this time of the morning.
That's terrible man.
I hope it all works out for you and you can recover ASAP.
(Brother wound up getting a semi trailer tongue dropped on his foot, put him out of commission for a good year and a half.)
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
I think those that keep up a tough spirit
keep the faith, if you will, and stay positive have a very good chance of recovery. It helps to have a good support group, which I have, and which I suspect your brother has as well. Take care – two more days till game time. I freakin love football!
Tell me about it.
It was Tuesday before I was wishing it was already Sunday.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
That doesn't sound fun.
Hang in there brother!
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
haha! ouch.
It took you 2 tries though. You definitely lost some flavor there.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Was more parrying your blow and sending one right back atcha. :)
C-c-c-combo.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
Combo..I see.
I can put up the 0-16 pic but I won’t give you a sucker punch like Mayweather did.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I've got a couple sucker punch pictures, too.
But we don’t want this to get ugly. You brown bag us and I whip out the trade, and it all goes downhill from there.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
meh..
Brown bag would be a the knockout punch. There’s no way of getting up after that.
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by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I’ll fight him with my eyes closed.
“I’m so great I make medicine sick”
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The Viking's do not have any game (A-Z)
That could beat the Lions this year.
The only team that can beat the Lions… are the Lions.
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Here is how I look at what happened here
Back in 2009 when the Lions sucked, opposing fans would come over to POD and tell us our team sucked and we would go over to other blogs and tell them our team sucked. We all agreed, everyone was happy, and everyone went their way (after wiping their feet on the Lions)
Back in 2010 (last year), opposing fans would come over to POD and tell us our team has a ton of promise and Suh will be a monster, and we would go over to other blogs and tell them our team has a ton of promise and Suh will be a monster. We all agreed, everyone was happy, and everyone went their way (after closely beating the Lions).
This year, we have a good team and we tell people we have a good team and we point to all the facts that show that this is a good team. People’s reaction? “You’re crowning yourself Super Bowl Champions” or “You’re just 2-0”.
Its what happens when you disagree…
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by Latif Masud on Sep 23, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Nah it's what happens when you start winning
No one complains when you think your going to lose… However, when this whole thing started a couple of militant Lions fans came over and were making some pretty bold predictions (some still are) that’s going to get the faithful riled up for sure.
Problem with the Vikes is we’re a better team than we show. Proof of that has been the first halves we’ve put up. However, just because you have potential doesn’t mean your going to use it. That’s our problem so far this year. If we can pull it together this week it will be a tough game, if not, well 0-3 isn’t fun but we’ve been there before.
I'm like the Dali Lama of kicking ass
Lions win Superbowl
Beat Vikes 66-3 Book it!!
LOL. C’mon, not many lions fans are this bold. If anything we’re more suspect of our team than the analysts are etc. We’ve been burnt too many times (6-2 start 07’).
It’s common knowledge being a Lions fan is much like suffering from battered wife syndrome. At the end of games you’re left there saying “they won’t do it to me again”.
It’s a weird feeling to experience winning finally in Detroit. The city has literally been to hell and back. 40% unemployment in the city, 47% illiteracy, DPSchools in the shitter. Not much to be optimistic about.
So if you do encounter any prideful, perhaps blindly optimistic fans (such as the 14-2 prediction bunch) let them down easily. There really isn’t much to be proud of in Detroit anymore besides sports, and the lions finally! For most laid off workers some of the only enjoyment they get all week is watching the lions play on Sundays…
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 23, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a fucking asshole
I am sorry you even consider yourself a Lions fan.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 23, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Here you go, have some Snickers.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps a mop to soak up the self pity I feel for you?
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 23, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Child please...
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 23, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You kissed the baby there
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
Reasonably sure
the Vikings won’t meet the Lions in the Superbowl. It would be a good thing for your city to have good football club, and I’m all for that, but I hope we kick your ass Sunday – no offense and cheers.!
lol, the superbowl was sarcasm. As was the prediction... Not to mention it'd be impossible for us to meet in the SB.
And I’m a “fucking asshole” Because I tell it like it is?
I actually LIVE in Downtown Detroit (In a loft development albeit). It’s not hard to see Detroit is in the shitter. I’m not unemployed, or illiterate. I’m just glad to see my city take pride in something finally.
But please, go hangout on Joy rd. Exit 9 area if you wanna experience the real Detroit. Have some bullets whizz by your head. Everything I said about the city is true. LOL if my talk about Detroit “offended” you. You’re obviously not from here.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 24, 2011 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Admittance is the first step
While I take pride in Detroit and its people, I have lived downriver all my life. Let me assure you that the problems are not exclusive to the city itself. But I think each Metropolis has its issues. Detroit is a city torn with strife, ever since the 67’ riots it has been nothing but strife and heartache. From the overt racism, to the reverse racism that comes right back because of it. From the hardships in the auto industry, to the scandals and corruption in our local government. From the illiteracy, gang issues, and drugs, to the undermanned and underpaid police, fire, and educational workers. I would never have brought that stuff up in the manner you have Amendola, because it is our problem to fix, while the issues are valid, no one else gives a shit and no one else needs to. We are Detroiters, we will fix this shit!
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Okay maybe it doesn't belong in football talk.
All my points are valid. I will say that I only brought it up to let Vikings fans know that Detroiters don’t have much nowadays and the lions have been a real bright spot for the community this year.
That being said, I’m part of the young white-flight movement back into the city. I honestly can say that I don’t foresee the city getting any better until the local gov’t is at least balanced racially. I know of a half dozen city contractors who do good work and have been passed up on because they’re white. Which is relevant in your ‘reverse racism’ comment. Corruption ruined the city, and it will continue until a Detroit City Council overhaul is conducted.
I think we both can agree that we want the city to see glory days once again as it was know as “the citiy of champions”.
Cheers.
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 24, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
known* city* typos
When Dominic Raiola jumps in a lake he doesn't get wet. The water gets Raiola'd.
by Amendola dolla billz y'all on Sep 24, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
:P More a reflection on the arts, architecture, food, music, and culture.
Or perhaps we just had the best prostitutes, hey I will still take that!
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
I haven't heard anyone say the Lions are going to win the SB(from lions fans)
Vikings fans have said that because that’s how we’re perceiving them. It might be some misunderstandings, but for either side to say that we’re going to dominate the other would be ridiculous. Fact: Lions are 2-0. Vikings are 0-2. Fact: The Lions have looked good regardless of who they’ve played. Vikings have looked good for the first half against each team they’ve played and looked awful in the 2nd halves. Opinion: [insert team name] will win the game. It’s too early in the season to really know what each team has especially with the lockout.
Skol!
NOT A CHANCE IN HELL CLF !!!!!!!!!!!! SKOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL VIKESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
by cali viking on Sep 24, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, the game is tomorrow and all will become clear.
I hope you guys are prepared from the “I told you so” deluge that you are about to get.
I never met him, but he was family to me... R.I.P. Tom Kowalski We will all miss you.
So tell me how you really feel?
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 24, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
We'll remember
It’s Sunday now and getting close to gametime. On sunday at gametime what we’ve said, what you guys have said. as well as what all the talking heads have said mean nothing.
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by Justan Oldfart on Sep 25, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Holy Shit
I gotta congratulate you guys. Took a great play even by Calvin standards to win it. Great game by Jared and Robison.
Someone is alive today simply because I can't afford a hitman.
Keep your heads up, Vikings fought hard, they gave more than I thought they would
Brian Robison looks better than I thought he would, Jared Allen embarrassed Backus, and Donovan McNabb still sucks ;). You guys definitely brought the noise and hampered our offense in the first half. I just think the adjustments we made in the 2nd half were better than the adjustments the Vikings made. Perhaps it is coaching, or perhaps you guys are just a player or two shy of getting over that hump. Kyle Rudolph may develop into that deep threat to help open up the field, huge bummer that Percy Harvin could not finish the game for you guys, he definately was utilized better in this game, but I think it is clear that the Vikings are keeping something under wraps there and that he is not well. Perhaps it is still the migraines, perhaps something else. Chris Cook battled Calvin but Revis is the only one that has actually shut him down for a whole game.
As the season goes on we may be battling it out for second in the division yet, you never know. I certainly like the Vikings more than the Bears at this point. Heartbreaking loss for you guys, hope to chat with yahs next time we meet and hope everything works out to keep you and the Vikings in Minny and the Norris Division.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
well...
glad we could at least introduce Allen to Mr. S a few times… come back anytime you want to chat…
now, go kick the crap out of the cubs & puckers.
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by Admiral BigGun on Sep 26, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Reality Check!
Thanks for givin’ us one of those yesterday, I hope the Packers and Bears teach us a similar lesson when we play ‘em!If Goodell shortens the games to thirty minutes next season, you guys’ll be undefeated! SKOL!
If your goal was to get flagged, congradulations.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 27, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
His profile pic says it all.
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks. Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle."
by Winchestertonfieldville on Sep 27, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
His profile pic is the modern translation of “that guy”, tool, or douchebag. Great first half by the Vikings once again, McFluff just lost it for us. Go win the superbowl Lions.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 28, 2011 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
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