And, Once Again, I Am Completely Confused
by Christopher Gates on Sep 25, 2011 3:50 PM CDT
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A ten-point halftime lead isn't enough.
A seventeen-point halftime lead isn't enough.
A twenty-point halftime lead isn't enough.
If the Vikings wanted to win today, they had to pressure Matthew Stafford, and they did that to the tune of five sacks (three for Jared Allen, two for Brian Robison) and hitting him on a bunch of other occasions.
The Vikings took a team that had been averaging 37.5 points per game over the first two weeks of the year and won by 45 points the week before, and held them off of the scoreboard in the first half. In the first thirty minutes of play, they held that offense to 50 total yards.
And then, in the second half, it all happened again. . .Stafford tore apart a soft zone again. Adrian Peterson got hardly any touches in the second half again. Percy Harvin, like many of us, spent a great deal of the second half throwing up. Donovan McNabb did very little in the second half.
Then, just when it looked like the Vikings might have a shot at a game-winning field goal after forcing a late Detroit punt. . .a stupid, stupid late hit penalty on Kenny Onatolu pushed the Vikings out of range and forced them to go for a desperation pass play instead. The Lions won the coin toss for overtime, and that was all she wrote.
In the first half of three games, the Vikings have a 54-7 advantage. In the second half, they've been outscored 67-6.
At this point, I have no answers. None. Zero. It still continues to baffle me how a team can look so good for thirty minutes, and then look so putrid.
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They must be taking a dive.
The only thing that explains the unexplainable is something more sinister. They must be purposefully taking a dive in the 2nd half of games. What the hell else can it be?
SKOL Vikings!
At this rate...
The Minnesota Vikings are on pace to blow an 87- point halftime lead in week 16.
New season and a practically new team. Let's go Vikings! Skol! Daily Norseman
by KJSegall on Sep 25, 2011 3:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
On the sunny side
You have 2 young qb’s. Mcbibbles should be benched. 3-0 tastes better than 0-3.
( a humble Lion’s fan )
It looks to me like a combination of playcalling and Harvin being gone.
Frazier and your OC got WAY too conservative, playing not to lose on offense instead of playing to win.
Your defense is beastly, though, and almost snatched it away even with the soft zone coverage. That line scares me on the rematch.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
I'm completely sick to my stomach
First time back in a long time guys, and all I want to do is cry.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Fire Bill Musgrave, apparently he’s an idiot.
Leslie, don’t listen to the fans. If you’re going to listen to them and Peterson, then make sure Peterson gets the damn ball. If not, then kick the field goal.
Give Peterson the ball on 3rd and 1, every time. Don’t try to be cute, don’t go for a pass. Especially not with Donovan “I underthrow/throw behind every single pass I make” McNabb.
Cut McNabb, put in Ponder and start rebuilding now.
To summarize, fire Musgrave, cut McNabb and start playing for next year. Losing like this is going to kill us all otherwise.
by Eric The Viking on Sep 25, 2011 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh, also, FOX can suck it.
I live in Chicago land, and they cut away when the Lions were 2nd and 23 at their own 3… To show the Packers-Bears game… But not the actual game. The Pre-Game commercials.
Yes, they cut away, mid-play, to show COMMERCIALS. For a game that hadn’t even started yet!
by Eric The Viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that's the NFL, not FOX, that can suck it
You live in the Bears primary market, they have to show the Bears game due to league rules. And yes, the NFL television rules are absolutely atrocious.
YES
You’re the first on to point that out, and I totally agree —
I couldn’t believe Frazier changed his own plans on the field goal call that ended up being a failed conversion attempt with Gerhart.
It looked to me like he wasn’t sure about what to do until Adrian Peterson and the fans lobbies him! THAT has me worried. Didn’t look like confident coaching to me.
couldn't agree more...
you either give it to Peterson or kick the field goal…but, also…do ya think that if Berrian moves a little and takes two steps back to receive a lateral from Jenkins instead of staying frozen ahead of him that he can step out of bounds and set up a potential game winning field goal…he simply does not contribute in any way by being on the field…
by Pro-American on Sep 25, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
even if he stepped out of bounds WITH the penalty, we have another shot.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
In his defense
He was too far ahead to just take ‘two steps back’ and make it a legal lateral. But yes, before I realized it was an illegal forward pass, I was screaming for him to realize that ‘Hey, maybe I should step out of bounds to stop the clock.’ since he was at like the 30.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
from what I saw...
Jenkins had the ball with two Lions next to him preventing Jenkins from getting to the sideline…however, when the ball left Jenkin’s hands, Berrian seemed to be just standing there frozen a few steps ahead…if he has any Derek Jeter like instincts for the game, he starts moving back to accept the lateral and I could swear it looked like he just had to move a few steps to allow that to potentially happen…Jenkins did the only thing he could do in that situation…unfortunately for him, Berrian did not move backwards to help facilitate the play…
by Pro-American on Sep 25, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Jenkins
first instinct has to be to go to the sideline. I don’t care if 11 Lions are in front of him. Try to go through them. If he gets tackled before he makes it there, so be it.
That play bothered me
because they were throwing the ball around as if they were losing! The game was tied, imagine if Detroit somehow scores on that play? Idiotic. Berrian didn’t do anything wrong on that play. He did a lot of things wrong on a lot of plays, but don’t criticize him for not being in position to handle a lateral on a play where they shouldn’t be lateraling the ball.
Yeah that play was a
‘get out of bounds’ play. Not a ’let’s stay on the field’ one.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Fire Musgrave huh? How about giving him some time? He had virtually one month to install an offense. Musgrave has a history of developing QB’s.
by Timothy Bryce on Sep 25, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeeahhh..
I’d be willing to give him time if he was, you know.. learning from his mistakes.. but he isn’t. Run the ball in the second half with the lead, but he’s sitting there passing it. Calling head-scratching plays that are easily second guessed. Not putting the ball in his playmakers hands. Why is it Peterson gets like 70+ yards in the first half, and then comes out and gets less than half that in the second all three games? How does he get 12+ touches the first half, and then even less in the second when you’re ahead? Its absolutely mind-boggling.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You do make some sense
I agree with you about Peterson. He should touch the ball 30 times per game.
by Timothy Bryce on Sep 25, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
He's had plenty of time
as evidenced by 3 first half blowouts…..clearly the problem is this second half “prevent” offense that can’t do much more than a 3 and out. First thing you should never do is play overly conservative (avoid interceptions, fine, but keep attacking, don’t just give the ball away every 3rd down)….always go for the win, even if you are ahead. And if you do want to install a “let the time run out” mode, don’t do it until late in the 4th quarter…and quit passing, especially to Berrian.
Musgrave is doing something right, half of the time…..the other half, he’s too busy trying to experiment.
Musgrave is an in-game adjustment moron.
Scripted plays work beautifully in the first half. Our second half offense started with three 3-and-outs! We had 1 st down the whole second half until the 2-minute warning.
by Caretaker QB on Sep 25, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Okay
We get it.
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by Christopher Gates on Sep 25, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
At this point...
…I’d take Bozo the Clown over McNabb.
by SaintBeowulf on Sep 25, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear he's available
Belichick will trade him to anyone for only 3 1st round draft picks.
How about Doug Flutie?
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
hey, steve deberg hasn't played for the vikings yet, how about him?
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
That made me LOL
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
defense is on the field too long
Jared Allen was great. Cook is going to be a really good corner when he gets some experience but mcnabb has to be able to complete passes deep passes. he checks down or misses the receiver. the offense has to give the defense some help
not everything is the oline's fault
mcnabb had more time than stafford did . stafford managed to make some deep throws.
Yes. Not sure why noone has said that up to this point.
The problem didn’t look to be Musgrove or McNabb. It was an O-line that got crushed and receivers who couldn’t get seperation. Nothing good happens when the O-line is getting ripped up the middle and around the ends.
This comment sums up the game
“Percy Harvin, like many of us, spent a great deal of the second half throwing up” …..
I am disgusted, if they would just get pounded from start to end I could accept, but this tale of 2 halves crap is making ME sick to my stomach.
by papaspud on Sep 25, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Is BRETT FAVRE available???
McNabb has no spirit.. it’s shitty to see.
by _clifton_ on Sep 25, 2011 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Getting exasperated with McNabb
The throws are there. He just can’t put them in accurately.
I wouldn’t object to starting Ponder or Webb next week. I would prefer to start Webb though while our offensive line continues to gel.
Webb is a little older, has NFL experience, and he is faster if he needs to get away from pressure.
meanwhile, in the Giants-Eagles game...
Giants are lining up to kick a field goal. Then…
- center squeezes the ball slightly
- three eagles jump
- penalty
- first down
- two plays later, touchdown
Then the game was over, and I’ve got to see Mr. Onatolu pretend he’s playing for the Eagles. Live.
Can we cut one player with the most bone-headed play after each loss? I know who gets the honors today.
I don't know what's worse:
The fact that another halftime lead was blown or that I’m just used to this enough that I’m not surprised or upset.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Sep 25, 2011 4:20 PM CDT reply actions
Im sick of BB
One of the only good passes from McNab went over BB’s head because he cant accelerate any more.
Critical point in the game and BB is worthless!!
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:28 PM CDT reply actions
If your talking about the would be TD in the fourth.
That was on McNabb, Berrian actually ran it well. He started slow, got to the defender, then turned it to eleven. McNabb overthrew a wide open reciever.
This is NOT me defending Berrian, he was horrible the entire game, it’s me lobbying for Christian Ponder to start next week. He’s been in our system for six weeks or so now, he should have it down-pat and he can surely hit open recievers.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep that is the play
I disagree, BB needs to be at the spot when the ball gets there. That play is a timing play the ball was in the air just after the slow, bb needs to run under it and go up and get it. I think Jenkins would have gotten it…
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He was running as fast as he could!!
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
my point exactly.
if that is all he has he should be gone. That is the only play that BB has and he cant even finish that one
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
bad playcall, decent throw, bad receiver skills, imo.....really bad playcall.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
Your not getting me...
It was impossible for any reciever in the NFL to get that ball. Berrian isn’t slow, he easily outran the defense, the throw was eight feet above his head and landed out of bounds.
I do agree that it was a bad playcall Danny. McNabb never took his eyes off of Berrian, which tells me…….it was meant for Berrian. ANY play drawn up for Berrian is a bad playcall.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
we may have to disagree on the position of the ball
however we can agree on calling a play for BB is a bad call.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The ball was wayyy over his head
Berrian was open but the ball was not where it should of been it was over his head and out of bounds.
i just commented on the other thread...
it was 3rd and 5 at the 31 w/ 1:22 left. we should have run a play action roll out to a
5-10 yard route in the flats for a first down, not take a shot at the cone with berrian.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
We couldn't move the ball in the second half,
but yes, we should have tried for the first down.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ll try to find a video of the play.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
its at the 1:22 point in the 4th QT
I still think that if BB was a quality receiver he could have caught it.
the ball was high but if BB would have jumped and reached for it he would have had a chance … but we get no effort from BB
I stand by my original opinion. Im tired of being screwed over by BB cut him now!
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, i don't have it recorded.
butt pass to berrian? really? facepalm.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
Listen,
when you are running full speed, you can’t jump high. This is a fact, go outside and try it if you don’t believe me.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No luck finding it by the way. We’ll just have to watch the replay.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we are gonna be at odds here
A quality receiver does exactly that we have had them Moss Rice Carter etc. They can and do run and jump at the same time its a requirement of the position. If he cant run that route and get a little separation with enough time to get to the cone when the ball is there he cannot be “the guy” in that situation. If they call your number then you have no choice but to be there.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yep no doubt
that is my point
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Moss, Rice and Carter are perfect examples of great jumping recievers. But it is fact that you cannot jump high when running at full speed.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
the fact that BB might have been running at full speed is the whole problem
its a timing route why the hell is he running full out? the ball was where it was supposed to be why wasn’t berrian?
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m incapable of explaining my side of the argument to you any further, so I’ll stop : )
Here’s something we can agree on… SKOL VIKES!!
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is a couple of others
BB sucks
Vikes need to be better in the second half
and
The only team worth of this level of discussion is the Vikings
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Correct sir, and rec.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok guys Ill go back and look at it
I thought it was catchable for just about any other average receiver. BB just does not play with any intensity and that pisses me off so I might be biased.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
We have worse endings
than an M. Night Shyamalan movie
by monsoon_season on Sep 25, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
This is just flat out sad
I don’t really know what to say about this. We have to be doing this on purpose. I just refuse to believe that we can’t fix the same fucking problem after 3 weeks. What the hell do these idiots do all week? Practice for half of the time and give up the other half because thats what they are doing on the field.
Musgrave is just not good. That is putting it nicely.
Frazier is an idiot for not kicking the field goal. We would’ve been up by 6 points meaning that even if the Lions had come back and scored a TD, we would’ve been a whooping 1 point behind. You give the ball to your best player on the field, not Toby Gerhart. I just don’t understand this call at all. We’ve now scored a total of 6 points in 3 2nd halfs. That means before this game we had a TOTAL of 3 points in 2 2nd halfs. You would think that given our ineptitude to score in the 2nd half, 3 points is a gift.
I don’t see the bottom of the hole we are in right now, I think we still might be falling. There wasn’t a lot to be positive about. Anything that there was to be positive about was ripped away in every second half we’ve played.
correct to not kick a field goal is absolutely insane
to decline an offsides on the def with a gain of seven yards is worse
to not use your timouts last week is ludicrous
FRAZIER needs consultants. worst coach in football
good call, but worst coach in football
by los vikingos on Sep 25, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You are wrong
Field Goal is the correct call there. I said it before the decision was made. The fans were booing when the field goal team started coming onto the field and with AP waiving them back, Leslie decided to go for it. He needs to be the coach. He let his emotions get the best of him. Field goal there is absolutely the right call, and if you think differently, then you do not have knowledge of Football strategy.
Exasctly. In a game like that, you want to take points where you can. That was a very makeable FG. Frazier should have stuck to his guns.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
In 3 games, that wobbly-knee chngeup by Frazier might be the worst thing I’ve seen. People are focusing on whether is was a better FG opportunity or whether they should have run it, but they’re missing the real point: When the heat was on, Frazier made his decision, only to let AP and the crowd talk him into changing his mind. At that moment, I saw a guy who doesn’t look in control at ALL. I’d have rather seen a strong willed coach taking charge, and he didn’t.
AP called off that fg
i know frazier wont say it but they caught AP wavin off the kick team. When i saw that i was like ok give the rock to AP and let him get that yard if you aint gonna take the fg. I do not understand how they do not have faith in the best rb in the league to get 1 yd on third and fourth downs
by jcsportsfan21 on Sep 25, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought going for it was a good call
However not giving it to Peterson is akin to Malpractice!!!!! Musgrave should be fired immediately!!!
It was a fantastic opportunity to put the game away we have the best RB in the league if we cant get 2 feet giving him the ball then we should just roll it up and quit.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
plus three weeks in a row we have gone away from AP in the second half
by jcsportsfan21 on Sep 25, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
We were on their 25 or so, it was 4th and 1. I would have gone for it, if I were the coach. I would have also given it to AP though. A FB dive up the gut? Really? Do a FB fake and pitch to AP on the outside. Everyone was stacked in the box. It couldn’t possibly have ended worse.
at that moment
I was fine with the call to go for it….with or without the Vikings scoring, it was still a 1 score game. Also, if the Lions come back to score a TD, we would not have enough time on the clock to get to field goal range.
A ticked off AP runs the ball with purpose, punishing anyone in his path….you just signed him for over $100 Million to run well. He had been running very well all day. Give him a shot….giving the ball to gearhart was stupid
I honestly told myself it couldnt get worse...
and then we blow a 20 0 lead. I honestly want to know whats goin on in the locker room at halftime. The team comes out blazin to start then comes out like a high school team after halftime.
I never post on any blog but
this is probably the lowest ive felt as a vikes fan… ever. This has been a snowball effect starting from Brett’s INT in the NFC championship game to right now. I have no confidence in this team, I have no confidence in the coachin staff or the front office. This is just sad. I never thought I would get to the point where I wouldnt look forward to seeing the vikes on Sundays, but i’m here.
by DFWMiner on Sep 25, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
amen, i feel the same way
going fishing next week
by los vikingos on Sep 25, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Were you not here in '97?
15-1 and we lose to the Falcons in the champion ship game - we are the only team in the NFL to ever go 15-1 and not reach the SB.
This is bad i agree but nothing is as bad as losing 4 SB’s and going 15-1.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
To tell you the truth i remember that well
I saw the Vikes crush dallas at Texas stadium on Thanksgiving ( I live in Texas). I basically cried after that 98 game and ur right it’s not the same circumstances at all. All i’m saying is the faith I have that this franchise will finally win something and not be some ridiculous footnote like (first team to lose 3 straight games after learding at half time) is wanning.
I believe you mean 98’
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
yep-fat finger-or maybe its that I'm shaking in anger still.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
We were the only team
Steelers did it in Mr. rape’s first season.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Sep 25, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Ill have to check that
I thought we were the only one.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
totally agree
I was really excited for this season, switched from Verizon Fios to Direct TV, just to get the NFL Sunday ticket (I’m in california) 3 blown games in, I’m regretting that decision. Could be 3-0, SHOULD be 2-1. Probably the best 0-3 team in the history of the NFL for what it’s worth.
Actually angry :(
Our DL was insane (thought Allen was gonna win it with a safety lol) and our secondary even played well, your always gonna have Cj make a few catches he is immense. Our offense in the second half was well and truely shocking, i think Ap only had 5 carries in the whole second half? I don’t blame Frazier, i blame Musgrave that was the worst second half play calling ever. I even thought when we had the chance for the FG at the end we had a chance, then the dumbest penalty ever on Onatolu he should be cut just for that.
Next up:
Vikings at Kansas City, who will likely also be 0-3 after today’s game with the Chargers.
They can call it the ‘Suck For Luck Bowl’. And somehow, I can totally see the Vikings running up a 34-0 halftime lead and losing 56 – 34.
Boy, they should totally fire Childress and make Frazier the head coach.
As if Childress was much better
Granted we didn’t lose in the 2nd half of games, but.. tha’ts mostly because.. we weren’t leading in the first half. We’ve just made bad coaching decisions, I guess.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
But
Childress wasn’t a waffle.
Win or lose, smart coaching or not, Childress owned his job and his decisions. You never saw him call a FG try, then back off when a player and some booing fans spoke up.
Frazier really looked weak today when he did that. You can’t be a leader while letting other people make up your mind for you. And if you’re not being a leader, how can you be sucessful as a head coach? I’m telling you, that was a big mistake by Frazier – and I’m not talking about running the ball with Gerhart. He could have gone either way, but he needs to show he’s in charge. And he didn’t.
I was at a game where childress did that exact thing
Was gonna punt the ball away at the 40..but AP demanded we go for it..Childress then decided he’d go for it..I believe he also gave the ball to the FB..and let’s not forget how whipped he was involving old number 4
by PURPpplEATER on Sep 26, 2011 12:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So done with Donovan and our offensive play calls in the 2nd half.
20 point lead going into the 2nd half and we ran the ball how many times in the 2nd half? Run some f’ing screens, draw plays, short passes. 3rd and 3 at the 31 with 1:30 to go is not the time to take a shot at the end zone. 3rd and 1 at our own 30 with 9 minutes left in the game and up 10 and we are passing. wtf are they thinking. And the choice to go for it on 4th down instead of taking the 40 yard field goal to go up 6, I understand Peterson wanted to go for it, but that’s not his job. That’s is the coaches job and Leslie I’m afraid is too much of a players coach. You need to make decisions that will help your team win games, whether those decisions are popular or not.
At this point, dump Donovan. We are not going anywhere this year, 6-10, maybe 7-9 if we are lucky. Put in Ponder. Worst case scenario, we go 0-16 and get Luck in the draft.
Before this game i was on Mcnabb's side
But there is no way that Ponder OR Webb could of done any worse in the second half in that game, he can’t throw to the numbers always High wide or low
Yep......
even Rudolph made a great adjustment to make a tough catch on a poorly thrown ball by McNabb. This led to the game tying FG at the end.
rewatch that play
I really can’t defend McNabb most of the time, but he put it in the only spot he could. If he tries to lead Rudolph it is an INT, there was a defender right there. It was just a poorly timed play.
McNabb is an overhyped QB, always has been.......
who was NEVER accused of being a leader. I saw more passion out of Joe Webb in a few games last season, wins AND losses, than I have in all of McNabb’s career.
Hell, he wouldn't even argue with TO on the sidelines that one game......
just kept turning his back to him. Remember that?
50 years of not being winners...
I’m sick of watching the Vikings continue to hire 2nd-rate coaches and quarterbacks. A thousand Jared Allens, AP’s, Harvins, and others can’t make up for crappy playcalling and a lackadaisical quarterback who has never had a winning attitude in spite of his numbers.
Someone ’splain to me again why we need Donovan McNabb? Wait, he has a great agent, right?
by liveforadrenaline on Sep 25, 2011 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
just embrassing
how do you make such bad decisions as a coach? these are not hard calls to make when you have ap. Pssst, Frazier, nobody is going to hold it against you if you dial ap’s number on 3rd and one and he gets stuffed.
THIS IS THE SAME CRAPTASTIC PLAY CALLING THAT CHILDRESS USED TO DO. WHAT EXACTLY DID WE GAIN IF THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET.
Now I do hope he can turn it around and start calling like a coach should. I’m not calling for him to be fired or anything.
But if we see a few more bad called games like this, it’ll be evident that he is not the guy
"I think they see I'm white and they think I'm slow"
Christian Ponder
i believe it is musgrave calling those plays...but frazier should be held accountable too.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
i know that
but it is Frazier’s team. he needs to get it together
"I think they see I'm white and they think I'm slow"
Christian Ponder
GO KC
If we lose to KC we will be the front runners for Andrew Luck. With our remaining schedule I see maybe two wins. The problem is KC will probably win only 1 game if their lucky.
We still have 4-5 winnable games on our schedule.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Before today, I look at our schedule
I saw four games in which we have a chance to win. I seriously doubt we win all four.
Jason Giambi for player-manager in 2012!
How the world will end in 2012: George of the Roses builds a Machine that Pommels everyone with La Violencia during Whiteouts.
I was assuming of corse that we play all four periods from now on. We have an overall better team than KC, Arizona, Carolina, Oakland, Denver, and Washington.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I said “overall better team”. If we play to our full potential in both halves, you couldn’t see us winning those games?
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
only thing i meant was, i don't see us as better than those teams
and i don’t think we will win against all of those teams.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
First of all, that's a big "if"...
second, no, right now the Vikings are not a better team than the Raiders or Washington.
Problem is playing up to our full potential
Hell, if we played up to our full potential every game, we’d go 16-0. We look unstoppable in the first halves.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s what I’m saying.
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Ummm
lol No. Carolina and Oakland are a better team than we are. So is Washington. Denver may be the one that is at our level. Maybe.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I am a believer
After watching the last 3 weeks it might be best to start talking about next year and changes that need to be made
I find it funny that you guys are laying most blame on mcnabb
when you have the BEST running back in the game, and he only touches the ball what 17 times…
Yeah, I don't get the McNabb blame
This falls entirely on coaching for me. Innacurate as McNabb is at times, he’s not hurting this team as bad as the plays being called are.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Sickening
In my opinion, the season is pretty much over now. After an 0-3 start, it is time to go into full rebuilding mode. I really think this team lacks character and quite simply heart. We have some players such as Allen who goes all out, but we have other players that are just there for a paycheck. The team had numerous opportunities to win the game today; however, it is penalties, it is misassignments, it is breakdowns across the board.
For example, your up by 20 points, why are you running a defense where Chris Cook is going 1 on 1 with Calvin Johnson, why? It is just stupid to be putting yourself in that position.
It is 3rd and 1 and you need to keep the ball so your defense can get some much needed rest and you are throwing the ball. Why? Peterson is suppose to be the best back in the NFL. Why is it that the Vikings can not give the ball to their best weapon on the field when it is in a critical game situation? We didn’t even give the ball to Peterson on a 4th and 1.
Also, I am sick of Percy being sick. Grow up, this is the big leagues, your going to get hit and it is going to hurt. Deal with it, it is what you are paid to do. Jim Marshall started on the Vikings Defensive line for 20 years and played out in the snow, mud, whatever. I am sure that more than once he was sick during that time, but, he sucked it up and played the game anyway.
If the team as a whole played with heart, then, when a team started to come back, they would be able to shutdown the rally. It is just that simple. Championship teams know how to win and this one is a long ways from being in that class.
by Tnshow_knoxville on Sep 25, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
percy's stomach probs could have been related to his head
Upi cant get on the guy that much.
"I think they see I'm white and they think I'm slow"
Christian Ponder
Worse still, that 3rd and 1
we came out in Shotgun. WTF IS THAT? If you’re going to pass, can you at least sell the run with some play action?
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
This all goes back to the front office not getting a deep threat...
in the shortened off season. Naturally teams are going to put 8-9 in the box in the second half, but we have no one who can stretch the field or is even a viable threat to keep the def from keeping everyone in the box. Seriously, Braylon Edwards was signed on a one-year deal! I admit CJ is a beast but look at the diff a deep threat makes for a team.
agreed...
the idiot that decided to re-work Berrian’s contract and keep him in the mix instead of getting a legitimate big and fast deep threat should be fired…
by Pro-American on Sep 25, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
No playcalling threat, for sure
No great team out there has gone downfield as little as we have this season. I have a hard time believing that Harvin can’t outrun any guy in the backfield, and Jenkins catches pretty much everything thrown his way.
So it seems that they are, once again, running a crappy and outdated West Coast offense as far as playcalling. All they have to do is air it out a few times a game to stretch the field and they either can’t because of McNabb losing his accuracy or they just have bad playcalling.
by liveforadrenaline on Sep 25, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats all im asking for, stretch the def with Percy or someone because the major
second half adjustment made against our offense is the defense basically saying they will not let AP beat them and it’s worked.
bears are pathetic
nothing makes a vikes loss worse when its followed up by a gb win
"I think they see I'm white and they think I'm slow"
Christian Ponder
I know I'll get blasted for thinking this
But could they be purposely doing this? Only reason I saw this is because 3 weeks we have teams beat, then we give up the lead easily. I just have a gut feeling the Vikings are trying to trash this season, so they will have an excess and leave minnesota for LA. That is the only answer that I can come up with, to why they keep falling on their faces
that is just crazy talk
So at half time you tell McNabb, AP and Allen to tank it so we can move to LA?. This is nuts
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Sep 25, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I left a bar early…..the first time in twenty years……I’m sick over this, I think we need to can Fraser and Mcnumb….I am so pissed right now….I’ve been a Vikes fan since 70…..I pushed an orphan to the ground on the way home……I kept her crutch……
by Bobcat m on Sep 25, 2011 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
And I’m unsure if your serious or not about the last part…
The road to fulfillment in any line of endeavor is always marked by an initial breakthrough; however, that first taste of success needs to be replicated again and again in order for supremacy to be sustained. We are Vikings, and our breakthrough is now. We will get that first down, then get a touchdown. Then we'll kick your ass.
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Sep 25, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not confused at all
As I’ve said all along, we are a team in a rebuilding year. Unfortunately, we are also rebuilding the image of the Vikings as being a tough, hard-nosed team and an explosive threat, to being just a team of chokers. Let’s face it guys, that’s what we are. I wish it wasn’t so, but there it is. I wonder what excuses Frasier and McNoob are going to come up with again.
This year is over with, put in Ponder!
I would agree with that but the difference in play in the first and second halfs
do not reflect a rebuilding team. We are dominating teams in the first half and choking in the second. I would understand if it were clear we were not better from the opening kickoff, but clearly we can compete.
We can only compete in the first half
A team that is well established can keep the pressure on and finish games. Rebuilding teams panic and go into 1st gear and just play to try not to lose. The Vikes get a lead and don’t know what to do with it in the second half. That to me shows that the coaches and the so called leaders on the team are not getting the team to jell as they should, ergo, we are choking games away that we should be winning. Even Childress could have won these 3 games. But the coaching staff is clueless on how to coach this team and it translates to the Vikings resembling basically a Chinese Fire Drill. Too bad Frasier hasn’t an ounce of Bud Grant in him.
So Ponder is our future back up to Andrew Luck...
that Ponder pick was awesome.
Reduce turnovers, reduce personal fouls, shoot better, win.
If we do get the #1 overall
and pass on Luck, who has far greater potential to be a good QB in the league, there are going to be some very pissed off fans.
You’re right, he hasn’t played much, but he didn’t exactly ‘wow’ anyone in the preseason, against 2nd and 3rd stringers playing vanilla defense. I can see us being in a Carolina like situation next year if we keep this up. Look how Newton has turned out for them so far. They drafted a QB the year before and realized they made a mistake. Now they’ve got a potential star at the position.
when Ponder plays, if he does well, it won’t matter. If he struggles like he did earlier in the season, though, I see no reason they shouldn’t pull the trigger on Luck.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
if we have any shot at drafting luck and don't take it, i will quit watching sports entirely.
warcraft, you are my guitar hero !!!
I know we have no room to speak, but Chicago has thrown the ball
30 times and run it 9…Cutler’s getting killed and they refuse to give touches to Forte. Gotta love Mike Martz.
Hey guys,some great news!!!!!!!!!!!
Kansas City (our opponent next week) is acutally giving San Diego a game right now,only down by 7 believe it or not.
Crap
Im going to that game next week I was hoping that they would loose so the TIX would be cheeper.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Crappier teams generate lower priced tickets...
check on Stubhub
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
Yes Im watching some at the 50 just a few rows up from the field
Im guessing Ill buy them tuesday or so.
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT!
50 barely gets you through the door at Ford Field
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
no the 50 yard line
the TIX now are about $150
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Lions fan here
First of all, that was some game. It actually doesn’t feel good that we won since the Vikings pointed out so many flaws for the Lions. I hope they get those things fixed up. That was sloppy from top to bottom: no running game, false starts for 11 year vets, sacks, pressure, etc.
Either way, they were pretty lucky to pull out a win.
House of Spears | My Detroit Lions/NFL Blog
Thanks for being classy
BTW I picked you for the SB
Hope that doesn’t screw ya
"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve."
George Bernard Shaw
"In those days the best painkiller was ice; it wasn't addictive and it was particularly effective if you poured some whiskey over it."
George Burns
by just another viking on Sep 25, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think most of us expected to lose the game
Just not in the same fashion as we did against the Bucs. Tbh I’m surprised we matched up with you guys as well as we did.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
We can blame BB all we want but
It’s not his fault that he’s simply not good. We really need to target Shaincoe and Rudolph more. I’d like to see the Vikings do more with Webb and for Ponder to supplant McNabb. Our defense looks great and if our offense could stay on the field, they could maintain their dominant level of play for the whole game.
In all honesty, your not going to win football games when your starting wide receivers are a sick and underused Harvin, Berrian, and Jenkins. Your also not going to win when your O-line just flat out sucks.
by Coolio12 on Sep 25, 2011 5:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Just had it intercepted, under a minute left so it's over. It will be the 0-3 bowl next week.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!!!
Yea
I think the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes will be shifting to one direction after next week,but don’t forget about the Colts (who are about to get murdered by the Steelers on SNF),and the Dolphins (Sparano better get his act together soon before we might be looking at our first in-season coach firing)
Well Curtis
12 minutes left in the Steelers-Colts game , Colts are up by three. No kidding, if i’d have drawn my picks out of a hat this week I’d be in much better shape!
Sydney Rice
8 catches 109 yards and it looks like a win for Seattle today.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!!!
Why not?
He has better weapons than what we do. I’d take Rice and Mike Williams over Jenkins and Berrian anyday. Throw in that he has Zach Miller and he is, honestly, underperforming.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll keep posting it b/c I predicted it
Below is the post I made after the first game, based on thoughts that I and others have had since last year. This team is BAD and needed to be rebuilt over the last year. Instead, management and fans were in denial, thinking this team could “compete”. Looks like they were wrong.
The most important parts of the team of the team (IMO) – OLine, QB, and Secondary – need to be COMPLETELY rebuilt, as I have been saying for a year + now. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and I’ll keep being right.
If you can analyze football, recognize talent, and evaluate honestly, you know this team is a bad team. Period. First half play well, second half play bad, whatever. You lost. And the Vikings will continue to lose. I pasting my post from last week and I’ll keep doing it. Because people (including Vikings ownership and management) need to FACE REALITY. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and thinking a small adjustment here or there will fix this. Contending for anything ended in January 2010 in the Superdome.
From FIRST week thread (http://www.dailynorseman.com/2011/9/11/2419061/vikings-chargers-fourth-quarter-open-thread)
"Time to wake up to reality
A lot of Viking fans saw this coming a long time ago. This team is on the decline without a doubt. For years big weaknesses have been left unaddressed and the “new” regime (really the same Speilman, Frazier, even Wilfs, etc.) has been in denial. Let’s review:
O-Line: This is the biggest problem and most egregious mistake. Has been in decline ever since AD’s first year. No 1st round picks in 5+ years, no top free agents, just old veterans and denial. It has killed the passing game and weakened the run game greatly.
Defensive Backs: Another huge denial area. No 1st round picks here either, guys like Chris Cook are a joke. Winfield is solid but not a great cover corner and getting old. No one else is even starter worthy, period.
QB: Obviously a huge black hole. McNabb is washed up as I siad months ago while many here were excited about him. What a joke. This team needed to realize it was going NOWHERE this year so why bring in a (washed up) vet? But even worse was REACHING like crazy for a 3rd round talent like Ponder. QB is the most important position, but that means you get the RIGHT guy, not just some guy. Could have taken a great CB, OLine, etc. in the draft. That pick will haunt this franchise for years.
Bottom line is this team needs to blow it all up. What they SHOULD have done this offseason was:
- Draft best available players. For positon, focus on OLine, Dbacks, maybe LBs, and WR
- Trade some aging talent; sad but necessary. Jared Allen, Winfield, Hutchinson, etc. This team needs to get YOUNGER and more talented, mostly through the DRAFT
- Forget McNabb or reaching for Ponder. Should have signed Vince Young. Yes, VY. He is a top 5 talent, with flaws yes, but he would have been cheap and cost zero draft picks. Look at Cam Newton today; the guy has these supposed “character flaws” too (IMO that is closet racism, but I digress) but he, like VY, is a huge talent. You need talent to win, period.
But instead, this team thought it was still a contender. What a joke. 2009 NFC Championship Game. That was the win-or-die moment. Should have rebuilt for the future after that. But it has just been denial, after denial…
Now, maybe this year, the team hits rock bottom. I predict 4-12."
This is mostly on coaching, game planning, and in-game adjustments
The players aren’t all that bad, the coaching is the worst in the league. Simple as that.
It feels like
We are what the Lions and the Bills were the past few years, they always found new ways to lose and give away games when they were winning or had an opportunity to win.
by Simply_Greatness on Sep 25, 2011 7:45 PM CDT reply actions
No. We aren't the Lions or Bills.
Even they would win if they were up 20-0. They lose close games but managed to keep it close through the whole 60 minutes. They didn’t run up a big lead and then let it slip from their fingers.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Good news though
Kluwe looked good, and had saved a TD on a punt return.
by Simply_Greatness on Sep 25, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
That is because Kluwe is awesome
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Sep 25, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Peterson
Seems like the first half of everygame we give peterson the ball atleast 15+ times and we look great. but for some reason the 2nd half he just doesnt get the touches and we go 3 and out every possesion….im so sick of seeing Mcnabb throw 3 straight plays then we have to punt
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