Governor Dayton Press Conference Open Thread
by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM CST
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PrintOkay, ladies and gentlemen. No stream that I can embed here or anything, but there are two different sites that you can watch Governor Dayton's press conference from. Only difference is that the cameras are at slightly different angles.
Here is the link to watch it at KSTP.com out of Minneapolis.
Here is the link to watch it via the Star-Tribune's website.
We'll be commenting on what we see/hear as the press conference goes along.
All indications are that, as we mentioned earlier, the site is indeed going to be somewhere in Minneapolis, much to the chagrin of the Minnesota Vikings organzation (I would guess), but the Linden Avenue site appears to be the preferred location, as opposed to the Metrodome site. This would allow the Vikings to play at the Metrodome while the stadium is being built and not experience the loss of revenue they would have experienced while playing at TCF Bank Stadium while a new stadium was being built on the Metrodome site.
Presser should be starting any moment now, folks.
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And Dayton starts
By absolutely ripping Arden Hills. Says if the Vikings “so want to be in Arden Hills,” they will raise their contribution to about $700 million.
Jeebus.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM CST reply actions
Reason being that Arden Hills
“Has no readily apparent means to raise its local share of the stadium costs.”
So, that’s that, pretty much.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Odds are VERY slim
but what if the Wilfs said, “Ok, here’s $700 million.”? Would they actually accept it or is Dayton just throwing out a ridiculous number that he knows will never happen?
If I were Wilf
I would build my own stadium, without a roof like he originally wanted. That would keep the cost low, maybe low enough for him to fund himself. When the state wants to use it for their events he can send them to the metrodome. I don’t think that is very likely though.
"You can write articles and do whatever you want, you can break down every player. Good, bad or ugly. But we just aren't good enough as a team, as a group. Offensively, defensively and special teams, from the No. 1 on the roster to the last man on the roster. We just aren't good enough. It's as simple as that." - Chad Greenway
There is no way to build AH entirely without state money...
…because of the infrastructure improvements that are needed to the highways.
I think many legislators would take the opportunity to support that.
Enough for passage? I have no idea. One reason to consider it possible is that if Wilf goes that high the Ramsey County tax gets taken off the table. In other words, you could get a deal that included state money and Wilf money. That might be enough to get some “no new taxes” Republicans on board.
I'm surprised
the government didn’t censor those links
"You can write articles and do whatever you want, you can break down every player. Good, bad or ugly. But we just aren't good enough as a team, as a group. Offensively, defensively and special teams, from the No. 1 on the roster to the last man on the roster. We just aren't good enough. It's as simple as that." - Chad Greenway
by Grape Drank on Jan 18, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Metrodome lacks
Opportunities for economic development, and there would be serious issues with TCF Bank Stadium hosting the Vikings for three years.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions
Basically
All of the stadium plans have serious drawbacks.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:06 PM CST reply actions
In conclusion
“There is not yet a stadium proposal with a complete financial plan. No site sponsor has adequately resolved the major unanswered questions.”
Only two feasible sites are Linden Avenue and the Metrodome site.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions
Vikings also need to clarify
Their financial commitment to any site that isn’t Arden Hills.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
This sounds like a "good job everybody but it ain't going anywhere right now" speech so far
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
Metrodome not the best site
But has the fewest obstacles.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions
Linden Avenue
Has greater potential, but has a lot of things that need to be clarified.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions
So..
He’s basically just summarizing everything.
"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."
by PurplePeopleEaters on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 PM CST reply actions
How is it a fantastic job by Mondale
When he has stated over and over that there aren’t enough details about financials???
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
I was thinking this might get more done than current Politicians
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
I miss Jesse.
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This press conference
Has, by and large, been a complete waste of time.
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM CST reply actions
yeah
once they started giving the Ipod dome guy talking time, I did too
"You can write articles and do whatever you want, you can break down every player. Good, bad or ugly. But we just aren't good enough as a team, as a group. Offensively, defensively and special teams, from the No. 1 on the roster to the last man on the roster. We just aren't good enough. It's as simple as that." - Chad Greenway
This is not a terrible surprise.
The deadline always struck me as more political theater than anything that would result in a plan that passes this session.
Not really.
The Vikings need to commit to a firm number they’re willing to contribute if they want to have anything happen. In Minneapolis, they need to say anything. For Arden Hills, they know the number and have to make a decision.
I’d say we got plenty out of this dog and pony show: if the Vikings actually want to stay here, they’ll have to make a commitment to staying instead of offering lip service.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
What?
The Vikes want to stay in in Minnesota that is clear but not to just be pushed into a garbage deal and scenario by the government because they have sat and done fucking nothing to address the problem just waited till the end and hope to call Wilf’s bluff.
\m/
by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 18, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Garbage deal?
There is no such thing as a “garbage deal.” The closest thing would be Robert Kraft paying for the whole thing himself. If the organization gets assistance from the state, they’ve come out ahead. If they get additional assistance from a county/municipal partner, then they’re doing great.
And Wilf is bluffing about Los Angeles. The percieved threat of moving a team to Los Angeles is far more valuable to the NFL than actually doing it. You can’t blackmail a half-dozen markets into new stadiums if you don’t have anything to threaten them with.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jan 18, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree with you TOTALLY!
The state will benefit a lot from having the Vikings there. Monetarily they have a lot to gain from them being there and a lot more to lose with them gone. I think they should put in money for the return they will get. If the state doesn’t put money in I hope 1 of two things. 1. The vikes do a retractable roof and never allow any state anything to take place in it without charging a state agency an arm an a leg. 2. They move. That is just me.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 18, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
This was basically a "Look we know everything that has been tossed around"
Buuuuutttt we haven’t done anything about it
Remember, remember the seventh of November.
well now the decision of do i follow them when they move
or do i shun them for letting me down one last time
I don't get how the Vikes will have let you down for moving?
I blame the MN government, not the Vikes, not in the least!
\m/
by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 18, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
That state has pushed the Vikings towards the Minneapolis locations for their own selfish reasons. Just so happens Minneapolis doesn’t have their heads out of their asses yet, aren’t organize, and don’t have a plan. The state/governor is saying you should go with this Minneapolis plan that isn’t even a real plan. I kind of wish Wilf would come out publicly and state what he wants to say. I’m thinking he “wants” to say Arden Hills or we’re out. When the Governor came out last year around this time and said that the Vikings could have $300mill to go towards a stadium. What happened to that?
White Horn Gold Pants
What selfish reasons?
I’m not saying all the possible reasons for going downtown are great ones, but I don’t see most of them as selfish. Here is a list of potential reasons a legislator might prefer a downtown location:
- Business leadership in the City and State seem to support it
- Utilizes existing infrastructure investments/projects
- Public money invested doesn’t result in benefits going primarily to a single private entity
- Allows stadium to be a "People’s Stadium" (which is really just the 2nd/3rd bullet points made into a political slogan)
- May not require a referendum or new taxes (I think this whole question is messy an undecided, but AH definitely requires both)
- Tailgating is not a deciding factor for legislators who are focused only on the stadium itself
- Putting a stadium downtown means events like the Final Four also get drawn to the area
- Minneapolis is a DFL powerbase
Of those, only the last one seems outright selfish as it is a political concern that has nothing to do with the quality of the site.
Now, you might disagree with the reasons. But not liking a reason doesn’t make it selfish.
Tailgating is a huge issue and if people made it a huge issue, a not going to vote your ass back issue, they would care.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Lets use some logic here.
How many people will actually tailgate for Vikings games? Even if you quadruple the number of season ticket holders to account for single game attendees, friends/family who don’t have tickets but come to the party, and people who are fans who don’t currently come to games but passionately believe that tailgating is a huge effing deal you’re still talking about only 250,000 to 300,000 people.
You’d also have to assume that all of this hypothetical group feel so passionately about tailgating that they’d make it a “vote your ass back” issue versus all the other things they care about and vote on. You’d also have to assume that all of those people are registered/eligible to vote. And even though Minnesota has pretty much the highest voter turnout numbers for almost a decade now, you’d still have to assume that 100% of these registered/eligible voters turn out to vote (something that quite literally has not happened). Also, you then have to assume that all of them are MN residents (which we know isn’t the case for Vikings fans/season ticket holders).
Ok, so lets just go with the fact that all those assumptions are true. Even if they are, you’re still talking about a group of people that is only approx 5.5% of the entire state population. Not the kind of overwhelming majority that strikes fear into a statewide legislative body. If you’re lucky, a large concentration of this tailgate brigade reside in the districts of a select group of legislators and you could turn a few of them on that issue alone. Oh, don’t forget that someone has to organize the tailgate brigade into a grassroots organization to get the message out and prove it’s voting power.
There is no logical way that tailgating can be a “vote your ass back” issue. The only way to make tailgating important is to convince legislators that it is an integral part of the gameday experience and as such it is worth prioritizing above any other reasons these leaders might feel make AH the wrong choice. I don’t think such a thing is doable, but it a much more plausible approach to the issue.
Derp
Pretty long explanation for this. If I lived in MN, and they don’t end up on a good/decent site that could support tailgating I would take a long hard look at not voting for them. It would depend on who is running but as long as they aren’t just god awful I wouldn’t vote for them. I know there are others that feel the same way. How much are you getting paid by the government? Call them leaders? Yeah, they’re leaders and Red McCombs was a great owner.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
It was long.
I had fun pointing out how silly you are being.
You’re the one who suggested that folks make it into a electability issue. There is nothing wrong with trying that out but it won’t get you what you want. At this point your basically suggesting that people pout. If holding your breath and stomping your feet makes you feel better then enjoy yourself. It won’t help you tailgate outside the stadium though.
Unless of course there is a new plan to anoint you as the person who selects the legislative leadership of Minnesota. In that case, you’re in great shape.
I thought that the point of having a Governor was
so that the state of MN would have leadership. i guess i was wrong!
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by just another viking on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM CST reply actions
He can't speak for the Legislature
But he failed to provide any leadership on the proposals so far. My guess is that he is just buying time until Minneapolis gets their crap together…
by liveforadrenaline on Jan 18, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
So his supporting Arden Hills...
…would result in what exactly? The no new taxes Republicans would suddenly change their tune because a DFL governor took a stand? The DFL leaders who want to leverage existing infrastructure, who represent/benefit from the support of downtown business leaders, or those who oppose spending public funds on stadiums would change their mind?
Dayton says
He thinks the stadium thing is “on the five yard line” and we have “first and goal.”
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:24 PM CST reply actions
At which point, I feel compelled to say
Really?
Really?
Seriously?
Really?
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by Christopher Gates on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say it's first and goal...
…but multiple false start penalties have pushed the ball back to the 35.
Can we officially...
Call him a Douche Pickle now?
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following a 104 yard kick return from Percy, but breaks a record for longest non-scoring play in NFL history
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by Grape Drank on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
where's first down fredddy mitchell when you need him.
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
Didnt see you posted a new thread
Oh well, but as I stated in the other one…
I need a very strong drink, preferably 50 oz. or better
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HAHA wisconsin might have the right idea
Recall Walker Dayton
Chris, all it takes is lunch money....
Just give Zygi $300 million of your lunch money to make the $700M to be in A.H.
Maybe Wilf will partner with Dayton
And Dayton can give up his lunch money…
by liveforadrenaline on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Dayton has a point.
There are significant questions to be answered before he can throw his support behind a proposal.
"I wanted to do it because it's fun, it's fun to do bad things and drive into a car."
by PurplePeopleEaters on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM CST reply actions
Can't tell if being sarcastic or not.
You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws.
PPE
True, there are a lot of questions. That’s because he’s supporting a Minneapolis proposal(or whatever you want to call it). If he supported the AH proposal, then we can move forward. We’re always going to be looking back because if we keep backing Minneapolis, they’ll never get their shit together to even have a coherant proposal.
White Horn Gold Pants
Upper echalon business people/politicians can see right through this guise.
The State very well can’t come out and say " OH PLEASE OH PLEASE DON’T LEAVE ME" like a house wife who’s gained 100 pounds. It has to be the “Eh, I suppose It’d work but show me something.” mentality until it is inked otherwise one side gains leverage. Once that happens, hundreds of millions of dollars are in swing.
If governor D-Pickle says it is close, that means its nearly a done deal. The stadium will get build on Linden, and the Vikes will have to put in a pretty penny for it.
If D-Pickle had said “Metrodome or leave” then I’d be worried because that site is simply not feasible.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM CST reply actions
Essentially
Once due diligence is done (wont take nearly as long as he says), The State (D-Pickle) is on board, the Vikes WILL be on board (they’ll mumble and grumble but secretly be happy), and the city will be on board. All hurdles crossed. Matter of time. Bank on it.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Why is he a douche pickle?
He seems actually to be trying to get something done.
B/C he has not provided much if any leadership
on this. If you listened to the news conf. he passed the buck back to Minneapolis and the Vikings with out any direction. He should be the guy pushing this through the Legislature but he is just standing on the outside and throwing rocks/ideas out without any direction.
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by just another viking on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
He tried
There is no votes from the legislator on any of the current plans. So he basically gave them 4 options and said pick one, and it will get done. That is about all he can do with the legislative situation he is in
Shrugging your shoulders and saying "at least I tried"
is not leadership. Taking a stand is leadership. Getting other people on-board with an idea is leadership. Forging a compromise that all parties can live with, is leadership. At least Gov. Dayton isn’t alone in failing to lead.
"Forging a compromise that all parties can live with, is leadership"
There is pretty much NO compromise that can be made where that will happen.
There's a difference
between “happy with” vs. “live with”. If there was a solution that made all parties happy, it wouldn’t be called a compromise ;)
If there really, truly is no solution that all parties can live with, then bye-bye Vikings.
Because I like saying that word
No personal preference either way on Dayton. Just for kicks.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
In the nutshell
Here’s how I summarized the PC:
Linden Ave.: My preference, but I won’t say until the St. Mary’s people agree to a Hail Mary.
Arden Hills: Punt to the Legislature. I won’t do any blocking…
Metrodome: We can’t take a lineman and make him flashy like Percy Harvin.
Shakopee: You should have used your pick to draft a different funding measure.
Everyone else: CUT
DOUBLEYOU TEE EFF???????
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Just announced for 3:30 pm this afternoon. Can’t wait to see what Zygi has to say.
Let us hope
It’s not, “I’m off to LA, bitches!”
I hope not too.
But that scenario is much more likely than it was 3 hours ago.
Your fantasy football expert since Jerry Rice's rookie year.
They aren't even in session yet
So it seems like Dayton is just buying time for Minneapolis, since he doesn’t like Arden
by liveforadrenaline on Jan 18, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
It's not that he doesn't like Arden Hills
It’s that he doesn’t like the red dot on his chest when speaking about AH.
White Horn Gold Pants
I kind of doubt it
It doesn’t sound like there was any actual news from this press conference, just the governor pointing out the realities that everyone should have known.
I would also be very surprised with the Vikes didn’t know that ahead of time.
Dayton sent them a letter this morning.
It was released at the presser. The reason I say it is more likely is the eff u that Dayton gave the Vikes when he told them they might have to cough up $700 mil if they want the AH site. Ziggy probably realizes that you can not negotiate with anyone who is not negotiating in good faith.
Your fantasy football expert since Jerry Rice's rookie year.
And Ziggy has to negotiate
with both the legislature and the governor.
by Lars in SLP on Jan 18, 2012 3:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It was not an F U. He stated the fact that a raise of that magnitude in taxes needs to be voted on by the populace of that county (which indeed it should be)
This would could happen until next november. If Wilf wants the AH site so bad, he then needs to sign a ONE year extension at the metrodome, wait until the measure is voted on in november, and id it passes, he gets his stadium in AH.
That would be dumb
As it will fail. Well, would. There will be no referendum.
However a raise of that magnitude of tax's
In Minneapolis would not take a referendum even though there statutes require one
Will the Real Thor Please Stand Up ... ?
by the Real Thor on Jan 19, 2012 7:29 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Tht isn't clear
“require” is tricky here as apparently the legislature can waive any requirement. And in Minneapolis they are talking about redirecting existing taxes instead of increases.
I hope not......
Because right now, my stomach is pure acid after watching the press conference, hate to see what that does to my throat and the computer screen if “I’m out of here and the State did what the city leaders of Baltimore did to the Colts” is said.
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by VikesFaninNM on Jan 18, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
All they said....
is that they are optimistic. That’s about it.
by JimBob Skeeter on Jan 18, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
What happens now?
Since there is no definite chosen site or a timeline to when the “due diligence” will be completed what do the Wilfs do in regards to renewing the Metrodome lease- I thought they said that they wouldn’t renew unless there was a new stadium plan in place
Well they have until the first game to get that figured out.
Dayton said he wants it taken care of early in the legislative session, meaning like february/march, so I bet it happens rather quickly
They DON'T need to play any more games in the Metrodome........
but what’s to stop them from playing their first game next year in a parking lot in Hudson, WI?
by JimBob Skeeter on Jan 18, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Pray to God, alot of it, if that is your thing
And pray that Wilf will remain calm, cool and collected and bite the bullet for another year or two and do a year to year lease in the Dome much like the Twins did until things got taken care of.
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by VikesFaninNM on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
"working group"
of legislators will be meeting for 6 hours today to work on a stadium bill
Link from Pioneer Press
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Yeah right
I bet that’s not going to happen now…
by christian220896 on Jan 18, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
It did happen...
“lawmakers in a working group trying to get a stadium bill drafted met for hours at a St. Paul restaurant Wednesday afternoon”
straight from the article, don’t really understand where you are coming from
"You can write articles and do whatever you want, you can break down every player. Good, bad or ugly. But we just aren't good enough as a team, as a group. Offensively, defensively and special teams, from the No. 1 on the roster to the last man on the roster. We just aren't good enough. It's as simple as that." - Chad Greenway
by Grape Drank on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
You were expecting decisive leadership from Mark Dayton?
The man’s incompetent.
by Midnight Rambler on Jan 18, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions
In the worst case scenario, the Vikings leave, and this was the opening shot of the political blame game.
If it comes to that I’m betting on the legislature winning that PR battle, because their opponent is Mark Dayton.
by Midnight Rambler on Jan 18, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
what an absolute joke
i’m so sick of this garbage…
"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."
Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.
What a nutless wonder
Try being a leader, you piece of sh*t. What an absolute joke.
If I am Ziggy I honor the current lease extension
And let it be known I’m going to have a chat with the folks in LA or any other town that wants to actually do something.
by Lars in SLP on Jan 18, 2012 3:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Guv wants $700m for AH, Vikes offering $425
What are the odds it works out at about $560 million.
by Lars in SLP on Jan 18, 2012 4:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not a chance
They don’t want to negotiate, they want to force Zygi into the offer they like the most. $700M is 2/3 the price of the whole damn stadium and is a ridiculous “offer”.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jan 18, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
EXACTLY!
(I know this makes no sense but that seems like the trend lately with the government in MN so fuck it!) I like this idea if they bring in a 3rd party and do a study when it opens and figure out how much on average the Vikings make every game week just based on them being there. Then the Zigi gets 2/3 of the tax revenue off that.
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by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 18, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
Completely unnacceptable
All this time, all the delays and they’re still acting adversarial towards the Vikings. It’s a give and take, and the Wilfs have been very patient, almost like they love the Vikings being in Minnesota. Really pisses me off that government seems to be working against the team, trying to take advantage of good guys.
At some point, the Lion will bite the dog. If they do move i’ll be a fan of theirs
If Zyg is calm and collected.
So am I. He’s privy to a lot more info aside from this political grandstanding that quite literally holds no substance.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 18, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
What is he supposed to be doing?
Throwing feces and treating the politicians like the useless monkeys they are?
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by Edgecrusher71 on Jan 18, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
I do love all the Dayton hating
Pawlenty had almost a DECADE to get something done an he never did. Dayton has a republican legislator that does not want a new stadium, so there is not really anything he can do other than what he is doing. Most of these comments are just party based and it is pretty absurd.
Nah
Party probably has little to do with it. Dayton just has the misfortune of sitting behind the big desk when the Metrodome lease expires and things get extra urgent.
But if we want to get all partisan on it, the Twins and Gophers both got new stadiums under Timmy’s reign, so he’s up on Marky-mark 2-nil in the stadium wars
Make everybody happy
…move to an L.A. and stay in Minny. LINDEN AVE.
Skol!
by Thor.in.your.side on Jan 18, 2012 4:31 PM CST reply actions
Oh my god.
Fuck this, I’m completely done with this legislature. It seems like a monkey could run this state better.
by christian220896 on Jan 18, 2012 5:16 PM CST reply actions
Don't get your hopes up
Cheetah from Tarzan just passed away a few weeks ago…
by liveforadrenaline on Jan 18, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Intersetsting Article
Business owner says Linden Avenue site a bad place for Vikings stadium
☠★☪Creator of http:/vikescity.info/ and dedicated DN reader.
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jan 18, 2012 5:22 PM CST reply actions
Yeah from the star tribune...
They just want to make bank off the sale of their office buildings, which would only happen if they build at the metrodome site
"You can write articles and do whatever you want, you can break down every player. Good, bad or ugly. But we just aren't good enough as a team, as a group. Offensively, defensively and special teams, from the No. 1 on the roster to the last man on the roster. We just aren't good enough. It's as simple as that." - Chad Greenway
by Grape Drank on Jan 18, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Don't trust.
How any business owner would ever pout about a potential 65,000 people walking passed their establishment is beyond me.
by Jepp The Viking on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Did you read the article?
They won’t be walking past it, they’ll be walking on it. His machine tool manufacturing facility has to be demolished for the stadium to exist.
And I doubt he'd get any walk by business anyway
But his is a pretty small light manufacturing business that shouldn’t be too hard to move.
$700 million huh
So Dayton wants the Vikings to pay for the State’s share too, assuming he still expects Ramsey County to find a financing option for their share so the state can own the stadium without paying a penny on either the stadium itself or the road upgrades around the site.
Man, that’s a really sweet deal…for the state.
Can barely made heads or tails of this Chris
but am extremely proud of how you and Ted and the rest of this gang – how you run the site and such – (i’ve written this a shit load of times) but feel privileged to partake in all of this. You guys to a damn good job!
Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points." --Knute Rockne
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