Minnesota Vikings Stadium: Metrodome Now "Only Workable Site"

That the “extra costs” will just be part of the Vikes contribution.

Also, this isn’t their last choice. They said it was workable, unlike the Farmers Market. And I don’t think they’ve commented on Shakopee.

This sounds like maybe the governor saying they can’t win a fight with the Catholc church over Linden Ave.

So if the difference matters to you, save some blame for them.

Maybe they will come out of tomorrow with a single, agreed plan.

… and provided to them by the Congressional Research Service. People firmly in the Wilf camp might not like it, but here it is:

Proponents argue that these stadiums’ economic benefits justify the subsidies.
Economic analysis suggests this is not the case. One study found that a new stadium
had no discernible impact on economic development in 27 of 30 metropolitan areas,
and had a negative impact in the other three areas. The reasons for this can be
illustrated with the Baltimore football stadium proposal. Economic benefits were
overstated by 236%, primarily because the reduced spending on other activities that
enables people to attend stadium events was not netted against stadium spending.
And no account was taken of losses incurred by foregoing more productive
investments. The state’s $177 million stadium investment is estimated to create 1,394
jobs at a cost of $127,000 per job. The cost per job generated by the state’s Sunny
Day Fund economic development program is estimated to be $6,250.

I don’t see them taking the deal of building a stadium on the Metrodome site and quite frankly, I wouldn’t blame Ziggy for not taking it either. The Vikings did everything they possibly could with arden hills. This is a huge shame. :(

The average uninformed person knows absolutely nothing but the propaganda about the issue. “Corporate Welfare” “No economic benefit” ect. Just continuous spouting of lies and propaganda.

The whole “cut spending” craze has made people blind to any positive that come from spending in the first place. It’s an incredibly selfish mindset that’s taken over all of politics about how each cent of someone’s tax dollar should go to something that directly effects them positively. That’s not how it works. People are in for a rude awakening if they don’t get with the program and do it now.

the long count is right and it all ends on winter solstice .

So after months of negotiations we’re back to the Metrodome site because the Rector thinks it might harm the Basilica? I don’t want anything bad to happen to that church, but why the he’ll were we even talking about it then? Every sight has it’s flaws, but our governor just caves to every interest group – except the Vikings. My worst fears have Bern realized which is what I expected out of Dayton and Mondale in the first place.
Enjoy LA Vikings!!!

(not sure I saw this in any post but the state of MN is currently running a surplus of about $800M – not a deficit).

i kinda hope they move after this, the Wilfs have been amazingly patient thru all the bs up at the capitol, then watch the state squirm when there isnt the money that used to be

he has been a very faithful fan through the good times, and the terrible. he IS NOW 25, AND has now told me that since we are 3-13, can he pick his own team to root for, and I told him yes he can.

WELL, YA KNOW, THIS DAYTON SCREWBALL, I PROMISE YOU THIS, I AM JUST 1 PERSON, BUT IF YOU DO NOT BUILD A STADIUM IN A PLACE THAT IS NOT THE DOME, I WILL FIND A NEW TEAM TO ROOT FOR. YOU ARE A TOTAL FRICKIN LOSER

It’s about the numbers. The numbers don’t work well for the Vikes under the current structure at the dome.

Clearly, any new facility there would have to provide sufficient revenue to the team or they would walk. If a new facility can provide sufficient revenues to the Vikings, they will take the deal.

While I believe the Ramsey County plan is superior to downtown, and would receive the greatest monetary contribution from the team, it is not the only workable formula.

I’m gonna trust Zygi to crunch the numbers and negotiate any anciliary benefits he needs to make it work— if at all possible.

This is my first post on DN, though I read it religiously. I just wanted to add something to the benefit of the Vikings staying in MN.

I live in Michigan’s Upper Penninsula, and have been a vikings fan since the Randy Moss and Chris Carter era. I was a wide reciever in 7th grade football at the time, and loved that pair of recievers, and stuck with the Vikings ever since. Every year I come to MN for at least 1 game, if not more. My in-laws are bears fans, so its typically that game. Usually our group is anywhere from 8-20 people depending on who can come. We all stay there for usually 3 nights in a local hotel. We eat out 2-3 times per day. We shop at Mall of America. We drink and enjoy the nightlife. And we always buy some vikings apparel. We are one group that comes for the Vikings games, and look at the shot in the arm that is given to the local economy. I even had hopes of moving to MN, but without a team I really have less interest, as odd as that may sound.

I cannot see how anyone would feel that the Vikings leaving would be beneficial. I hope to see a deal made for the benefit of the state, let alone to keep the vikings there. I see it as the Governor just doesnt want it to look like he created a deficit while in office, rather than looking at the future well being of the state. No matter how you twist it, the long term is better with the vikings in Minnesota.

The reactionary, fear-mongering BS on here is amazing. This is a good thing! If the city/state pass a deal through the legislature (and this is the only deal that has a chance to pass), there is absolutely no way Goodell lets the Vikings skip town. Best-case scenario? Zygi realizes the only option is to play at the Metrodome site and sells to someone capable of running an NFL franchise.

Some highlights:

Actually, he’s OK with it. “It has become worn and near-obsolete,” said the former executive director of the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission, which owns the Metrodome. But that’s because the Vikings, in comparison, are now pushing a new stadium that “is a super-opulent football Taj Mahal” that, he said, is “overpriced.”
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The Vikings, he said, “have been allowed to co-opt the Legislature, governor and public by grabbing the initiative to dictate process, stadium design concept and cost, and the cost share that the public will contribute.” He blames the state’s politicians and public for allowing the team to convince people that the Vikings’ $425 million contribution is “generous.”
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Poss also is frustrated with what he calls the Vikings’ implied threat to move without a new publicly funded stadium. “My generation, 30 years ago, would have told them, ’Don’t let the door hit you’ in the rear end,” he said.
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Does Poss have any final advice as the Legislature considers a Vikings subsidy package? Build the stadium somewhere in Minneapolis, he said, and “tell the Vikings what they’re going to pay, not ask them what they’re willing to pay.”

Full article here:

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/134965848.html