Twitter Mock Draft Results: TooEarlyMock
by Josh_D on Jan 31, 2012 1:08 PM CST
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PrintRecently took part in a mock draft on Twitter with several other NFL Draft enthusiasts and got to make all the picks for the Vikings. You can check the entire 3 round mock here. Lots of interesting picks to be sure, but before you get to far into it, know that there were no trades and I made the critical assumption that the Vikings go after a WR in free agency. There will be too many out there once FA starts for the Vikings to not go after one or two. As a result, here are the first three picks for the Vikings:
1. Morris Claiborne, CB LSU - Kalil was gone and there were no trades. Even if I wasn't assuming the Vikings take a FA WR, Claiborne is the pick. The secondary has little to no talent and Claiborne is the top CB prospect regardless of defensive scheme. Blackmon isn't in the same mold as Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald and I would pass on him until picking outside of the top ten.
2. Kelechi Osemele, OL, Iowa State - There aren't a lot of LT prospects after the 1st round, but adding talent to the OL is still a big priority. Both Guards (Hutch/Herrera) have struggled with injuries the past couple of years and both are closer to on their way out then reaching their peak. Osemele played LT at Iowa State, but projects as a OG/RT in the pros because of his foot speed. He'd be best at OG (IMO), but could also swing at tackle if needed.
3. Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama - The Vikings seem set at DE in terms of both starters and back-ups looking to crack the starting lineup, but the interior has lost a lot of depth and worse, has seen a huge nose dive in production at NT with Phat Pat retiring. Chapman was an immoveable object while playing for the #1 defense in college football. If you hadn't heard, he played most of the past season with a torn ACL. Yup, one of the best NT in college football and he was playing on one leg. He recently had surgery to repair his ACL and should be ready to play by the time the season rolls around.
Lets us know what you think/how you wold have done it differently. Also, if you are on twitter, be sure to follow everyone making the picks. Lots of great draft info from all who participated.
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Not bad
Kalil going #2 puts a damper on things, but it’s a very real possibility. I might have still gone with Reiff or Martin at #3 because there is still some good talent at CB in the 2nd round. I am glad that you ignored WR early.
Could have been
- Martin/Reiff
- Casey Hayward
- Chapman/Thompson/Solatalu
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen
If I were to take a LT @ #3 not named Kalil...
It would be Reiff… But I think I would rather trade down and get Martin and some extra picks.
Picking rounds 1-3
Rd1 Reiff or Martin the reason why they take a OT is because in F/A the Vikings will go after Carl Nick OG.
Rd2 Gilmore CB S. Carolina
Rd3 Mcnutt WR or Lester FS
I think we will take one of the three OT in the 1st R because we need to shore up that LT position. In the second round we will take Stephon Gilmore because he’s a Chris Cook type CB. I also think the Vikings will take another corner later in the draft but my thinking is they will also go after Brandon Carr CB from K.C. I also think we will go after a strong safety in free agency period.
We will also go after a WR in F/A also.
Lester did not declare for the NFL draft
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen
When saying chris cook type....
Do you mean tall and fast with good potential, or do you mean that he chokes his girlfriend?
by IL PurpleRain on Feb 1, 2012 9:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
dangit should have read down before I commented.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Hrm like Chris Cook?
So he beats his girl friend and is an average corner? :)
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
i know its semi off task
But is there anywhere to get actual draft classes for Madden without buying them off eBay
by Lunchpail on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not bad
but with no trades I would have done this …
3. Robert Griffin III QB – too much value to pass up and can be traded later
35. Donta Hightower LB – best inside linebacker in the draft
67. Brandon Thompson DT – A little bigger than Chapman
Just ignore the o line?
Don’t know man could be looking for a new QB next year if we do that… Oh and I don’t think there is a real hope for us to get solid FA’s as long as our stadium is up in the air.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Interesting concept
What if our stadium was really up in the air? We somehow built the worlds first flying stadium.
by IL PurpleRain on Feb 3, 2012 1:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
hrm you could tailgate underneath it.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
Hover-stadium 5000
I like it. Write a letter to Wilf with the suggestion.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 3, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Or we get the OL fixed
And are good again in 2-3 years but we still lack the elite QB. The team wins its share of games (but not the big one) This scenario would put the Vikings in the teens drafting and never able to find that possible elite QB that we very well could have sitting there at #3 this year. I find myself agreeing with MarkSP18 draft strategy here. The two main components needed for a successful franchise are above avg QB play and solid defense.
While I agree the OL isn’t everything it could or should be there is a possibility they could get better as there are a few young players that could develop into something (Love, Fusco, Brown to name a few)
by VikesFanInTulsa on Feb 3, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
I kinda agree as well if you think Ponder will never be good enough to get us to a superbowl
That to me is the benchmark of a QB. If you think they can get you to the big dance keep them. If not pick a new one up. We won’t be in the top three again for a while (I hope) so if Griffen is considered an all star QB then yeah I would be fine picking him up no matter the cost. The big question though is he that good? So many QB’s bust or play just well enough. I havn’t seen this kid play and the things I read about him don’t seem to be as high of a praise as I would really like.
Plus, and honestly I really would like a pocket QB this time. Someone who is a student of the game instead of a kid who used athletic ability to get him to where he is today as we all know the NFL isn’t college.
The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.
I'm confused on the RGIII pick there, Mark
I guess I’m not sure if Josh meant that for that particular style of mock-draft trading wasn’t allowed or if simply no one wanted to trade. I don’t think there’s a reason to draft a QB at #3, even if no one’s willing to trade. If they’re not willing to draft RGIII, why would they trade to get the actually player once we’ve drafted him? Also, if he turns out to be really good, then great, what do we do with Webb(trade?) and Ponder(trade? career backup?) Obviously, it would be great if he was, in fact great, but what if he’s just average? What if we have the always coveted “competition” between 3 guys(ponder/webb/rg3)? That would suck. Then we’re in the same situation. Truth is, we don’t know completely about Ponder or even Webb for that matter. Both could be solid, but both could be average. We NEED OL. We NEED secondary. Why keep addressing a position(QB) that may already be addressed? And until we get a line, we’ll never know how good thesee QBs can be. Not trying to rant here, but this is my first comment really on the draft so it has a little more than I needed to say.
White Horn Gold Pants
I think that's a solid point.
They already took their QB gamble last draft. Taking another the following year seems like a silly notion, especially when the glaring weakness of your teams were revealed the last season for everyone to see.
I mean, we essentially have RGIII’s ‘potential’ on the team: We saw his athletic ability with Webb’s runs, and we saw (.. maybe.. not really) what his accuracy would be with Ponder.. and we still managed to go 3-13. 2 – 8 over the last 10 games. Now granted there’s more than the first round in the draft, but the O-line, secondary, and WR-corps are in need of talent bad. Moreso than the QB position right now. The first round gives us our best bet of finding that talent that’ll stick around.
If we’d taken, say, Amukamara last draft.. then yeah, I’d be all for nabbing RGIII, but we went with Ponder. So they better stick to him and build the team around him, at least to better prepare it for his replacement should he prove not to be the answer.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 3, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Plus, its not like Childress was here last spring to draft Ponder
This is on the current GM/Coach to make Ponder work. If the intended purpose of the Mock is to try and predict what the Vikings would do, they would never draft a QB with the #3 pick. I think Mark was leaning more towards if we can’t get someone to trade for the pick(say someone a pick or two behind us who is hoping to get him with their pick and not have to trade for him, then to draft RGIII and hold him ransom and trying to force the team to trade for him. It’s just way too much risk if that’s the tactic.
White Horn Gold Pants
I am all for BPA no matter the position
You never know if someone will get hurt and never return to form. You never know if unknowns at the QB spot will end up being good. So you never stop trying to add the best players available and then letting the chips fall where they may.
In 2004 the Chargers selected Eli Manning even though he said he would not play in San Diego. The Giants really wanted him and had to make a crazy deal to get the guy they wanted. They picked Rivers and then traded him to the Chargers along with their 3rd round pick that year and their 1st & 5th in the 2005 draft.
You think that the Giants told San Diego to go ahead and pick Eli and then we will give up all that they did to get him at #4? They did not believe San Diego would actually take Manning. When they did the Giants got desperate and got played by Aj Smith.
I believe that Cleveland or Washington could be thinking just like the Giants. I think they will not believe the Vikings would take RG3 because they picked Ponder the year before and it never has been done in history (it is time to change history considering the Vikings history).
If I am Spielman I take him and then let those teams come calling. I think that they will. If not then then Miami or Seattle could be interested too.
It has been done before and worked out very well.
Now what if they do not get any offers? Well then they keep RG3 and let him battle it out with Ponder and Webb. Right now none of them is a sure thing. RG3 is the better QB coming out of college though.
Like I posted in another thread. Shanahan was on MFL Network during the Senior Bowl practices and he said unless you have a top 5 or 6 QB (i.e. elite) you must keep looking for that one. He said the worst case is you trade someone.
I agree 100%. Look what Whitehurst got for the Chargers? Look what Kolb got for the Eagles? Teams will be interested in trading for one of the Vikings QBs. And the Vikings will be in a position of strength having possibly two really good QBOTFs in Ponder and RG3. I like that a lot.
We have gone I do not know how many years trying to find a QB and now we can have two of the top QBs to come out of college in the last two years plus a late round QB who looks to be a very interesting project.
I would much rather have that than bringing back Rosenfels for another year.
The Vikings will be able to do many things if they had RG3, Ponder, and Webb.
i like it
the more I think about it, the more I will predict that if available, we will draft RG3
They should if he is the BPA on their board
I think that they could do a similar deal like the Chargers.
I also think that is they cannot do a deal, then they have a very attractive QB position going forward. And guess what? Ponder, RG3, and Webb would only cost about 1 mil more than they paid McNabb last year.
If you start picking for need then you will get what you pay for.
RE/ If you start picking for need then you will get what you pay for.
Exactly how is drafting a left tackle that is rated in the top ten overall, going to hurt a team especially when it is a need?? A team is going to be hurting more when it continually ignores its needs. If one player really stands high above the rest, I agree with BPA, but that’s not the case. After Luck the top ten players are fairly close in talent.
I watched that draft and there was an agreement
San Diego drafted Eli and NYG drafted Rivers so they could trade wth each other. Your love for RGIII has made you anti-Ponder.
I do not believe that is true at all
If you have any links to support your claim that the NY Giants agreed to give up Rivers and their 3rd round pick, and their 1st & 5th the following year to the Chargers BEFORE the Chargers picked Manning then that would be interesting.
Here is one that I found …
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/30366986
The most famous example of Smith vs. uncooperative Chargers player came the year before, when the team selected Eli Manning with the first-overall pick of the 2004 draft even though Manning said he’d rather sit out the season than play in San Diego.
Smith, undeterred, drafted Manning anyway. About an hour after Manning stood on stage with that “Did this really just happen?” look on his face while holding a Chargers jersey, Smith traded him to the Giants for Philip Rivers, and draft picks that would later become Shawne Merriman, Nate Kaeding and Roman Oben.
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I find it hard to believe that the Giants would make that deal ahead of time.
You could be right but it does not sound like a very smart move by the Giants.
As for being anti-Ponder, well, I really do not know how to answer that statement. It is like dealing with a child. If I am not supporting a player in my words then I am against that player. OK. If that is what works for you then so be it.
I do not recall overly criticizing his actual QB skills though. I said I did not like the throws to the sideline and that is all. My concern is his consistent ability to get injured. If that makes me anti-Ponder then again, so be it.
It really is a simpleton mindset to accuse others who do not wear pompoms of being anti anything. I am just looking at the facts. No excuses will do.
If RG3 or Trent Richardson are the BPA then I would take them without hesitation. I am not worried about the line because the Vikings will have a high second round pick and there could be a decent tackle there. Not every tackle is a first round tackle.
I like your picks Josh
We have so many holes that either way we go we’re flling a need and improving our talent. The talent at CB is a major drop off after Claiborne and I’m sure our new DC will find ways to take advantage of his skills.
BPA can be overated
After Luck there isn’t a lot of disparity between the top ten picks or so. Some prognosticators have actually rated Reiff higher than Kalil. The Vikings offensive line was an abomination last year. Next year the Vikings will be without one of the best blocking TE’s in football in Jimmy Kleinsasser. Steve Hutchinson even with declining skills, was rated as the best left guard in the NFC North. Steve could be gone next year as well. Some people take these ratings a little too serious. The difference between 2-10 is minimal. The Vikings drafted a quarterback first last year. This year fill the need. A quality left tackle is one of the hardest positions to fill. The Vikings need to come away with either Kalil or Reiff.
Being a Viking Fan From Nebraska......
I say draft Reiff,,,,, after a trade or RG3, who we drafted with the 3rd pick…… then reap more picks that are yet to be determined…..
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