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So it appears the San Diego Chargers won't be re-signing WR Vincent Jackson. Per the article:

A few big-name wide receivers are scheduled to be free agents this offseason, including Wes Welker, DeSean Jackson, and Reggie Wayne. And because of that, another fella will likely be hitting the market when the free-agent window opens on March 13: San Diego Chargers vet Vincent Jackson.

The San Diego Union-Tribune reports that even though "there is expected to be a line of teams" who want to sign Jackson, the team "will almost certainly allow Jackson to hit the free agent market next month."

The Chargers will be sure to let Jackson's agent know that they want to be bidders, of course, but the team won't be trying to sign him to a deal before then. He was asking for $10 million annually more than a year ago, the paper notes, and his price hasn't likely gone down.

The 29-year-old Jackson has been with the Chargers since the team drafted him in 2005 out in the second round out of Northern Colorado. He had 1,106 receiving yards and nine touchdowns this past season.


So... do we make a play for him? It seems he was all set and ready to come to Minnesota during the 2010-11 season, but the Chargers didn't want to let him jump ship (and we ended up with Randy Moss). Might he have that same desire to come to Minnesota, and will the Vikings still be willing to pony up the cash?

Personally, I think he's the real deal and absolutely good for a 5-year contract. Of the other high profile receivers hitting the market, the only two I see actually leaving their teams are Marques Colston and Desean Jackson. Jackson is a sick athlete, but a malcontent. Colston is absolutely worth going after if New Orleans can't pay him. But I think Vincent Jackson is the best of the lot.

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Pony up the coin and sign Vincent Jackson
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Personally I say no...

Minnesota has many many holes to fill on the team. Yes WR would be great but how can one throw the ball down the field with 2 sec of time before Ponder can throw the ball….in my eyes….Bowe or LRobinson from Dallas is our WR of the future.

VJax will hit the market and demand HIGH HIGH $. Personally I see VJax going to wait for it……wait for it……..New England. Yup u heard it here. In Vjax eyes…Brady throwing to me?!? “Ill give you a small discount for that.”

Minnesota needs an offensive line before they sign high profile players. Why give AP $100000000000 if he cant find a hole to run through……..that what I see from Minnesota.

OL, Saftey, WR and DB needs new and improved players. Let VJax go and get a cheaper WR. Bowe or Robinson from Dallas is my pick.

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM CST reply actions  

I like the idea of getting Dwayne Bowe, but I’m not sure Kansas City is going to part with him. If not Jackson, I’d like to see Minnesota pilfer Marques Colston or Robert Meachum from New Orleans.

Also, I agree that O-Line and Secondary need immediate help more than any other areas. But if I were Rick Spielman and Leslie Frazier, I’d be addressing those early and often in the upcoming draft. (I reaaaally hope he nab Matt Kalil.)

by Sleezy83 on Feb 10, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would NE want VJax then..

instead of, say, the younger/cheaper Bowe?

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 10, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't they just sign Ocho last year?

Who wants to take bets that they are looking to trade him this year… And no while I like Ocho trading draft picks is a bad idea in my book.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 10, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt they'd even bother trying to trade him

He did pretty much nothing for them all year long. I wouldn’t imagine anyone would give them something for him.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 11, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it was more of a system thing than anything else

The Pats are to strict for his play style. Let him open things up a bit (with a mobile qb) and I think you’ll see him shine again. I still however don’t really want him on this team if it costs us draft picks.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Well FA is just that

And while I think Jackson might come with a price tag that is to high for us, we do need a receiver. Picking him up would give Ponder a very real target and help take pressure from Percy. The question is will he fit in with our team. Tough call there, he seems to like the spot like a bit to much and Minnesota is far gone from that.

We need a crap ton of young talent on this team, paying for over priced athletes is one way to make this rebuild harder than it has to be.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 10, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

we were 4th in the league in rushing,both ap and gerhart were over 4.5 yds per carry.run blocking isnt the issue pass blocking however is a whole other story.I agree we need a new young LT To protect ponder and open holes for our hurt running backs.

by vikes 1 on Feb 10, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Run blocking and pass blocking are both issues.

During Adrian Peterson’s rookie year, he was ripping off long runs regularly. Now he almost single handedly earns every yard he gets. Yes, our offensive line is that bad. Adrian reminds me a little bit of Larry Johnson trying to run behind his crappy line. I don’t understand why the Vikings haven’t tried to address this sooner.

by vking1 on Feb 10, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Not only that but if we picked him up

all the Ponder has a noodle arm activists would be up in um well arms…

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 10, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I was going to mention that but didn't want this to turn into one of those threads as I've seen the Percy 4th down throw a million times already : )

One thing about Jackson is that he’s a low reception high yardage receiver and if the Vikings are going to spend big money they can get guys that would contribute better in the all around passing game. Stevie Johnson and Pierre Garcon would be my picks if they make it to free agency.

by CanadianViking on Feb 10, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Heck anyone with the ability to get consistant seperation

Would be a big help for this team. Right now it’s like our receivers are trying to keep covered.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 10, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, pretty sure any of the top ten FA WRs this year would be a huge upgrade for the Vikings.

Ideally I’d like to be greedy and get a young WR with upside that isn’t going to look to break the bank like Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson, or Bowe likely will.

by CanadianViking on Feb 10, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Same here

I don’t like drafting top dollar FA’s. Give me someone who can grow with the team.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Age is the biggest thing for me.

If you can sign a big-name FA that’s 25 or 26 he can grow with the team and you eliminate that risk of a guy dropping off around 30 or after they’ve gotten their second contract. That’s a big reason why I’m not as high on Vincent Jackson as most are because he’s got almost every red-flag a FA can have. He’s a year short of 30, has had two DUI’s if I recall correctly, and he’s held out because of money issues. The talent is there but I’m scared Vincent Jackson would be an expensive bust if the Vikings signed him for one reason or another.

by CanadianViking on Feb 13, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm more worried about money

I would rather not have a bunch of guys making hit money which stops us from keeping the journey men that actually make a team a team instead of 5 stars amidst a bunch of rubble.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed with Jackson being a one trick pony...

take the top off the defense…this his job….“one clap”

not sure how to do link but copy and paste this in your browser:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJcUlrkMNg

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Though, that is what I really want and think we need.

A guy that can threaten to just go deep. Then you have to respect that or respect AP (knee pending) or get burned by one or the other. We have good route runners and good hands in Percy and Jenkins. All I want is a deep threat that can out jump the defense and has speed. Jackson fits that to a T as you talked about. Though the price tag that comes with it is a bit worry-some.

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 11, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

True. I just think V. Jackson is going to want more money than anybody else with Bowe being a possible exception.

If we signed Jackson I’d be pretty happy, I just think the other guys I listed are a better value since they’re younger, cheaper, and have produced nearly as well. The only difference is Jackson has a little longer track record of success over everybody except Bowe and Wayne.

by CanadianViking on Feb 12, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Bowe Flex!

I know Vjax is a phenominal athlete, but hes got a tude on him as well, and a high price. D Jackson is great as well, just not a good fit, I would rather focus on resigning Harvin this year or next. I do like Robinson, and Colston. However, I feel that Bowe has the size and has never had a decent quarterback which makes him way underrated…Let him work with ponder, open up the field for Percy, and use his size! I think for the money this would be our best bet. He only had 5 TDs this year, but over 1100 yards…And lets be real, the Chiefs werent doing much scoring at all. Thats just my 2 cents.

Heres his highlights from this year…The one thing I noticed is his YAC….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5NcnVLGQ0

by gmkulwich on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

For sure, I like Bowe too. I just don’t see him leaving Kansas City. They’re going to work hard to retain him, so it’ll take a fat chump of change to lure him away.

by Sleezy83 on Feb 10, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Bowe strikes me as being a player that makes big catches...

…but also drops crucial ones as well. The latter can be pretty frustrating.

For my money though, I’d steer clear of DeSean Jackson and V. Jackson. Malcontents aren’t worth the headache in my opinion. Keep the drama on the field and out of the locker room.

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by kcskol on Feb 10, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I can guarantee this

That Minnesota will not 1. go after Desean Jackson and 2. Sign Desean Jackson.

Anyone wanna put a bet on it??!! I got $10 on it.

Dude is as immature as it comes. Vick made DJackson and thats the bottome line. Skinny as a rail and will not beat any corner with his size. Ya he has speed but he does not fit in our scheme of play

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

No he didn't..

DeSean Jackson was D-Jax when McNabb was throwing the ball. He’s been that deep-threat since he got into the league, Vick or not.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 10, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Since he got into the league?

Yeah, he had his most explosive year in ‘10 with Vick at the helm. But he was already the Eagle’s deep threat the two years before that. He’s been the big-play reciever since he came into the league, Vick or not.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 11, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

No bets from me

I just want to put my unwavering faith in you and hope you are 200% right. Steeeeer cleeear

by IL PurpleRain on Feb 10, 2012 1:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The Vikings do not need a speed WR until they get a QB that can throw the deep pass

Ponder’s specialty is not throwing the deep ball. He can throw it deep but not consistently or with much zip. That is why it was mentioned in the majority of his scouting reports.

Big WRs like Bowe and VJack are exactly the kind of WR that would probably be better fits with Ponder.

by MarkSP18 on Feb 10, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I wanna be clear my previous post was to steer clear from DeSean. I don’t see any value for us in that deal. I like vjax and bowe and Colston for our team. How much money does anyone think Colston will be looking for on the open market?

by IL PurpleRain on Feb 10, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus Desean totally screwed me in my fantasy football league this year.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

The Vikings only Need a speedy Wr and an offensive lineman to helps ponder's success

Im sorry if this affends you MarkSP18 but Christian Ponder is going to be a great QB. Ive watched him since his days at Florida State, and he has what it takes to be an elite QB. He is incredibly Smart and i dont know why you think he cant throw the deep pass, because no only did he make some deep throws when his receivers were open but they were accurate. He had great deep throws in college as well. He will do just fine with help from free agency and the draft to get a better offensive line and a better receiving corp

by burnsrob5 on Feb 15, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Bowe

"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen

by NMVike on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

Absolutely sign him

Our off-season plan pretty much has to include signing a big-name WR free agent. We can address the OL and the secondary through the draft, and fill up backup depth through the draft. We will have a ton of free agent money available with McNabb and a few other vets gone, we have to address WR and either CB or S in free agency. The talent pool of WR in the draft pales in comparison to the talent available in free agency.

Make the move and go get a guy like Vincent Jackson! If not him, pickup Dwayne Bowe or even Stevie Johnson. There are lots of options.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Feb 10, 2012 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

sign him for HUGE $

and then have no $ to sign anyone else?! Not sure if would want to do that. Cant fill holes if you sign a HUGE $ contract to a free agent. Got to weigh the pros and cons…….rob $ from peter to pay paul

First of all Harvin needs to be extended that way he does not have a chance to hit free agency!

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree

Obviously, you can’t just throw money at him, and if he’s too expensive, then fine. But, he’s a proven commodity, and has many good years still ahead of him. We would be stupid to not make an offer. It has to work within the financial side of our team, sure, but if you can sign a guy like Vincent Jackson, you sign him.

I agree that we need to extend Harvin and secure him before he hits free agency, but our cap situation will allow us to do that AND potentially sign several big name free agents. We are basically sitting on a mountain of cash this off-season.

Ponder. Peterson. Percy. Purple Perfection.

by CCNorsemen on Feb 10, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

very true very true

Dude is proven and has a good ability to after ball. I agree we at least TRY and sign him, but attracting someone to a team with HUGE holes in OL, without a proven top 5-10 qb is hard to come by.

Brady thowing to me? ABSOLUTLY I would sign
Rodgers throwing to me? ABSOLUTLY I would sign
Manning (when healthy) or Eli at the moment? ABSOLUTLY I would sign
Brees throwing 400+ every game? ABSOLUTLY I would sign

Not taking away from Ponder one bit…just saying he needs to prove himself in the coming years to attract big name WR. Oh and $$ does help!! ha!

Without knowing vikings future stadium, un-proven qb, blah blah blah blah I bet its hard to attract big name FA.

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Its not that hard to come by at all..

You just end up paying more. But for what Jackson could bring to this offense, which would help take pressure off the defense.. its worth every penny. Especially with an injured Adrian Peterson.

We need all the weapons we can get on offense if we want to compete next year, but what we have now.. won’t get the job done.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 10, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Which Jackson?

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by UnBannedVikingholic on Feb 10, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Vincent.

The #greedydouchebag, as Kluwe would call him.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 11, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

that's greedy douche pickle thank you.. :D

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with that...

VJax would bring alot to Ponder espically with AP hurt. I just cant see blowing your wad on 1 player when there needs to be multiple signings to help the “rebuilding” process

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't trust Spielman's evaluation of 'bargain' talent in FA.

Aside from Berrian’s ‘08 season.. we haven’t had a good season from our FA aquisitions.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 11, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you have to remember it is supply and demand.

Most good teams with good QBs already have their stable of receivers. He can demand more for himself to the Vikes because they have a higher demand and he would be a BIG focal point in the offense. He would have his spot solidified.

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 11, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Too old for Spielman's approach

According Pelissero. Spielman likes to get team younger and to go after guys coming off their first contract. Just repeating what I read.

by Murgo on Feb 10, 2012 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

I dunno..

I think, if there’s talent, he doesn’t mind going for older guys. He did swing and miss (in the sense of getting them to sign) on both Housh and Tomlinson.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 10, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

That was when

we still had Chilly and were (dreadfully) all in. I believe.

by Murgo on Feb 10, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a good point.

Although, I think that he should stay away from his typical FA-scheme as its reported.

I mean, when’s the last time a FA aquisition showed up for this team and made a solid contribution? Berrian in ’08 is the latest I can think of. Everyone else has kind of sucked, blown, or some other variation.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 10, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Mind you

I have liked Jackson for some time now.

by Murgo on Feb 10, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

made me about spit out my coffee on the #5 Tebow! HAHAHAHA

I do like ur list but I say replace DJax with LRobinson and nix the tebow at #5! HA!!

by B Animal on Feb 10, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

in order

love the list but l robinson at 4 and manningham at 5 looks better to me

by vikes 1 on Feb 10, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Mario Manningham?

I’ve wanted him before the “big catch”. He was overshadowed by the two amazing WRs in front of him. That just means we can get him for cheap. He would be a decent number one WR, allowing us to fill holes at OL, LB, and in the secondary.

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by PurplePeopleEaters on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 PM CST reply actions  

wasn't he injured quite a bit of this year?

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 10, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah he was out a few games with a minor knee injury

Manningham would be a great addition. He was the Giants #2 until Cruz broke out.

by dsludo on Feb 10, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions  

i can't figure out why vincent jackson would want to come to minnesota in the 1st place.

i think he ends up going to a team that has a stud qb who is a player or two away from being a serious playoff contender, or a team that is willing to spend the farm on him. either way, i don’t see that team as being the vikings. maybe the patriots, steelers, raiders or even the broncos (assuming they get peyton manning).

well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?

by krinkle on Feb 10, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions  

Aren't the charges perpetually

“a player or two away from being a serious playoff conenter”.

That has got to get tiring after a while.

by Jepp The Viking on Feb 10, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

that's funny, it seems like that's their slogan every single year.

well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?

by krinkle on Feb 10, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I was getting used to the idea of the vikes making a big FA signing...

But then you just brought me back to earth. Why would any receiver want to sign with the vikes? They are a running team with a gaggle of ?s at the QB spot that is drafting in the #3 position. The whole organization is in flux right now, and the coaching staff is unproven….its just not the most desirable place to commit 3-5 of your prime earning years.

That means no VJax, no way. Lets hope they do find somebody who has to be accounted for. I think a better LT and an above average receiver and the vikes could actually have a really good offense again.

by dirtyplay on Feb 10, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing I think many forget about the coaching is this.

It will change next year. Remember last year they kind of worked their offense in a way McNabb liked, and I love that. Coach to the players you have not to some idea of some system you think is great but don’t have the players for it. In this regards I think we see some changes to help put Ponder in a position to succeed.

\m/

by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 11, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

yea its not all bad

And I’ll pan Frazier all day long but he is a player’s coach. From my vantage point it seems most of them play hard for him even if alot of them are has-beens or never-wases. I think he can turn it around. Maybe he’ll even convince a FA or two to give the vikes a shot.

Ponder on the other hand….

by dirtyplay on Feb 11, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

… needs a #1 wide receiver and an offensive line that can give him some time.

by Bjorno on Feb 16, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

This is what I think.

VJax was super close to coming to the Vikings in 2010. For all of you asking what WR would want to go to a team that isn’t proven, look at Sidney Rice. The Seahawks are an average team at best, yet he went there anyway. I think within a few years and a few good younger drafts the Vikings WILL be a playoff contender for a few good years. Look at last year. No protection. Fix? Draft Kalil and the line is instantly better. Rookie contracts are different now so I’m thinking Kalil and Nicks in free agency. Our CB play COULD be very different next year barring we get Cook back and word is we’re in the talks for Stanford Routt. Harvin, and VJax would be an instant boost to our WR core. With Michael Jenkins filling in the number three spot, we’ll be better at the position. I think those three players along with the level that Ponder is at (still learning but will be better with a full offseason) we go from 3-13 to at LEAST 7 or 8 wins alone. Bring back a healthy AP and rebuild our defense through the draft over the next few years and there’s no reason we shouldn’t be a contender. The Vikings easily have incredibly overlooked talent on this roster. Greenway is never given the credit he deserves. Get rid of Ayodele and replace him with ANYONE else, and our defensive line is better . With Gerhart and Peterson as a 1-2 punch and Harvin, Jackson catching passes, with Rudolph who is going to be a fantastic TE. Kalil and maybe Nicks with Johnson switching over to RG, our protection will be more solid. I say bring Jackson in.

by PurpleEaters on Feb 10, 2012 9:58 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Wrong time

He dont fit for a rebuild as in the Vikes case. No doubt he is a talent to be reckoned with but the money it would take and the first year in a rebuild it woulnt be prudent. If the Vikes were a just falling shy of playoff depth and needed a huge threat to get it done this would roll. I think what we will see is a conservative approach to WR and maybe even one out of the draft the Vikes feel could grow with Ponder. This team wont be ready to roll much past .500 for a couple years it would be like having a Porter house hot off the grill and saying it goes well with Spagetti Ohs.

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by Velvetouch on Feb 11, 2012 2:30 AM CST reply actions  

I am bummed that Manningham had a bit of a breakout in the SB...

Which is going to inflate his numbers in FA. Had he not had those catches, he would still be a good receiver and probably would cost us a few million less.

by Bjorno on Feb 11, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

An amazing catch didn't help David Tyree win extra money

Granted Manningham is better than Tyree was, but a big performance in one game doesn’t always mean big bucks. It was more of an amazing throw by Manning anyway. Manningham didn’t have to do anything but hang onto it.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 11, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

If you don't think that game is going to inflate his cost...

Then I don’t know what to tell you.

The Tyree catch was dumb luck, the catch by Manningham was completely different.

by Bjorno on Feb 13, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

So he had a big game against the Patriots defense..

Alot of recievers did. I’m pretty sure they were 31st in yards allowed. They gave up catches all season long, which is part of the reason alot of people felt, myself included, that the Giants should be the favored team going into the game.

Just because he had one big catch against a shitty defensive backfield shouldn’t inflate his cost. It’s not like he had to reach out for the ball, or dive to grab it. It wasn’t like he tip-toed on the out of bounds line. He just had to be there and catch an amazing throw. Which he did. It was just doing his job.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 14, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

That does not matter...

It does not matter how bad the Pats defense is, only the impression that is left by the catch and the aftermath.

Again, if you don’t think it is going to have any effect on how much money he will get in Free Agency, then I don’t know what to tell you. Some team will overpay for him, I can assure you.

Whether or not he performs to the level of that pay is something I cannot assure. He could go either way.

by Bjorno on Feb 15, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

plus, it was pretty darn good coverage on that one play too.

that’s what made it such a spectacular play.

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by REVENGE4WEBB on Feb 16, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you’re making too much of it. It’ll be a plus but it’s I don’t think that’s going to be the thing that makes teams decide they’re going to pay him.

by packallday555 on Feb 17, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

History?

If history has any say, [sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t] getting the high profile free agent WR does not turn out well in terms of Super Bowl winning. I know Vincent Jackson isn’t a Randy Moss or Owens type player. Unless you can convince him for a 5 year 25 million dollar with incentives built in, I don’t think it’ll be worth it judging by history. Since 2000, Marvin Harrison is the best receiver in the league that has won a Super Bowl. You can argue Branch, Keyshawn Johnson and Jennings but realistically, Jennings is not on the same plane as Harrison or Reggie Wayne. Keyshawn played on a Bucs team that was mostly defense and had the luxury of a coach that got to play against his former team immediately in the Super Bowl. Is it better to have a legion of above average receivers with solid hands. Or 1 mega star receiver?

Needless to say, we were all spoiled in the late 90s with Carter and Moss. I believe we are better off getting someone in FA that is not necessarily under the radar, but not one that we get in a bidding war over.

by Mike S on Feb 12, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

I have a lot of reservations with him

I believe he’s one hot test away from a year long suspension, isn’t he? Plus with his age and the money he more than likely wants, I just think there are better options out there not named Mario Manningham.

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again. Do it a little harder next time." Ohio State Coach Urban Meyer.

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by Ted Glover on Feb 13, 2012 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

i wonder how many people who voted "pony up the coin" for a 29-yr old...

…also fall in the “trade JA because he’s almost 30 and past his prime” crowd…??

"Th_r_'s n_ h_p_ f_r _ssh_l_ f_ckw_ts."

Can I buy a vowel...?? +1, Kluwe.

by rj-b on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

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