Pro Football Weekly Brings The Stupid

by Christopher Gates on Feb 11, 2012 6:01 AM CST in Minnesota Vikings 2012 Off-Season

So while I was looking around last night, I managed to find this laughable video from the folks at Pro Football Weekly. They're doing a "Most Overrated Players" bracket of eight NFL players, and apparently one of the eight players that they've decided is overrated is the guy that came up half a sack short of the NFL single-season record and was runner-up for the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year Award, Jared Allen.

Think I'm joking? I most assuredly am not.

There's the video. They matched Allen up with Detroit Lions defensive tackle/cheap shot artist Ndamukong Suh in the first round of their bracket.

Now, ignoring the stupidity of having Jared Allen placed in a tournament to determine the most overrated player in the NFL, the guy that is actually advocating that position can't keep his facts straight. During the video, he points out that Allen had more sacks in the first half of the season than he did in the second half. That's correct, actually. . .in the first half of the season, Allen had 12.5 sacks and 34 tackles, and in the second half of the year he had 9.5 sacks and 32 tackles (according to his stats page on NFL.com). Well, according to the video, Allen had 16 sacks in the first half of the season to go with 39 tackles, and just 6 sacks and 27 tackles in the second half of the season. Nice research department you've got there.

Amazingly, they managed to go with Suh in this "match-up." In any case, this entire thing is stupid with a capital dumb. Just goes to show that, no matter how successful a season a member of the Minnesota Vikings might have, stupid haters are just going to continue to stupidly hate. For a national rag like PFW, one would generally expect better.

EDIT: It was pointed out to me in the comments that I misunderstood the first half/second half breakdown in the video, and that it referred to the first half and second half OF GAMES as opposed to the season. So, my apologies to the Pro Football Weekly research department.

But attempting to classify Jared Allen as overrated is still stupid, so there.

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by Jepp The Viking on Feb 11, 2012 8:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions

This article is pointless

we only have a Gerald Allen on the team who’s Jared?

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by UnBannedVikingholic on Feb 11, 2012 8:08 AM CST reply actions 2 recs

I hope they keep it up and word makes it to Jared

I can only imagine the unholy terror he would unleash upon opposing teams if he thought people thought he was overrated.

He would crush his enemies, see them driven before them, and hear the lamentations of their women.

by Purpledork on Feb 11, 2012 8:15 AM CST reply actions

It's fine

Let people keep thinking he’s overrated or washed up and when their quarterback gets killed maybe they’ll remember next time.

by MrBungle85 on Feb 11, 2012 8:30 AM CST reply actions

Reallly ? cmon

- He had no secondary, NO SECONDARY at all. And yet he managed to get nearly HALF of the teams sack.. Not only that he broke the franchise record for sack, and was just a half sakc away from being tied with michael strahan for the single season sack record.. You cannot call 22 sacks overrated.
- Overrated was a guy like B.J Raji.. Nearly did nothing this season, another than being in double discount choke commercial..

by Malte on Feb 11, 2012 8:45 AM CST reply actions

Who is PFW?

I’ve never seen them before. Sometimes in order to get exposure you have to do/say something outrageous. This video qualifies.

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by kcskol on Feb 11, 2012 8:58 AM CST reply actions

still doesn't change how i feel about talking heads that have to go this route for attention

“stupid is as stupid does.”

from mike floria at pft to peter king at si to the gits at pfw, not anything they have to say interests me or informs about the nfl. all making stupid statements about nfl stuff for the point of making a name for themselves. like being the drunk at the party acting like a fool to draw attention to themselves.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 11, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions

I wish I had the last 1:51 seconds of my life back.

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by abba7 on Feb 11, 2012 10:04 AM CST reply actions

Please tell me Charles Woodson is on this list

Because someone in the media needs to point it out already, that is if they can call that garbage “media”. He gets the Michael Jordan treatment and was finally exposed for the old man he is in the playoffs.

by nmatt71 on Feb 11, 2012 10:06 AM CST reply actions

doesnt help that no team has to throw the ball against us in the fourth quarter

by statue_left on Feb 11, 2012 10:13 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions

who's moms basement did they shoot this video in?

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Feb 11, 2012 10:33 AM CST reply actions

Anyone who does this...

Is most definitely not overrated. If anything, he isn’t rated enough! Is that even something real? Being rated enough?

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Knock-Knock-Whos-there-Its-Jared-Allen/cace85a7-6abb-42c2-a8dd-97e8735f2c85

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by HueGKoch on Feb 11, 2012 11:13 AM CST reply actions

Just a note for Chris.

I don’t think Allen is overrated whatsoever but PFW’s stats were correct regarding Jared Allen. The stats they used referred to Allen’s sacks and tackles in the first half of games vs. the second half of games and not the first half of the season vs. the second half of the season. Their argument was that the majority of his sacks and tackles occurred early in the game and very few of them occurred when the game was close in the 4th quarter. It doesn’t make their argument any less ridiculous about Allen being overrated, but the point they were trying to make is that he racks up most of his stats early in games and isn’t as big of a difference maker late in the game when it matters more. Funny thing is I remember an article calling Allen overrated a couple of years ago for getting a lot of his sacks late in games that weren’t close so I guess people just like to bash him : )

by CanadianViking on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 AM CST reply actions

Ah, I see

I misunderstood what they were saying there. I’ll put something in there to correct it.

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by Christopher Gates on Feb 11, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions

No problem.

I don’t think it strengthens their argument very much anyways.

by CanadianViking on Feb 11, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions

unfortunately, i think alot of that is because, especially these last couple years, there weren’t qbs to sack in the 4th qtr of games. granted, thats not totally the case, i mean just look at what he did in a close game vs the bears in week 17 in the 2nd half. he had like 3.5 sacks in that one half IIRC…

by RedHat16 on Feb 11, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed.

It’s hard to sack QBs when the other team is running out the clock. Also I’m not a big believer in selective stats like these anyways as sacks are fairly random in nature. Allen can have a great game with 8-9 pressures and not get a single sack and in another game he might be terrible getting pressure but end up with multiple sacks.

by CanadianViking on Feb 11, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions

absolutely correct. i think qb pressures are a better indicator of a players dominance then sacks, because i mean, what happens if the oline just misses a block and someone comes in unblocked for the sack? did they earn that sack? in a manner of speaking, yes, but thats more of a failure of the oline then the skill of the player. but if someone is getting 5-8 pressures a game, that shows that they are CONSISTENTLY getting to the qb. i doubt very much that the online fails to pick up this player 5-8 times a game…ya know?

by RedHat16 on Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

Agreed...

And, I think, teams go into a game seeing if their man can block Jared one on one. When they realize that it is not working, they start double and triple teaming, cut blocking and chipping him. That is when the other guys, aka Robison, should be getting the most of their sacks. I have not checked, but I would be surprised if the stats do not bare that trend out.

by eyeguy81 on Feb 11, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions

Good point.

It definitely makes sense that if Allen or anyone else gets a couple of sacks or a lot of pressure early than the other team is going to start chipping and doubling him as the game goes on. I’d like to see the stats for Robison and others later in games because what you said makes a lot of sense.

by CanadianViking on Feb 11, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions

And...

Can you imagine over the last couple of years, if the Vikes were playing with a lead, what his sack total would have been?! 30’s not unreasonable.

by eyeguy81 on Feb 11, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions

Oh, if he would've played in '98, 30 wouldn't have been out of question.

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by DM_Purp on Feb 13, 2012 9:11 AM CST up reply actions

*Gets out pencil,

scratches off PFW as a reputable football source.*

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by TexVike55 on Feb 11, 2012 12:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

P**** Fart Weekly?

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by DM_Purp on Feb 13, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions

Aaaand Pro Football Weekly

just got placed in my bracket tournament for most overrated sporting website that nobody has heard of on the internet!

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by Landonio on Feb 11, 2012 12:22 PM CST reply actions

I used to actually think of them as a pretty good site for unbiased reporting on player ratings, ala the anti-espn. but now….i think i’ll have to relabel them as espn 2.0….

by RedHat16 on Feb 11, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

3-13...

well then who the hell are you talkin' to...are you talkin' to me?

by krinkle on Feb 11, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions

Is a team record

And therefore has nothing to do with the performance of one individual player.

by Christopher Gates on Feb 11, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions

How can a 3-13 team be overrated?

If anything, the fact that JA almost broke the sack record on a pathetic defense shows even more how good he really is. Now, Clay Matthews, on the other hand, didn’t have that great of a season. Is he overrated?(I’ll be fair and say no because defenses focus on him, but can’t you say the same for JA?)

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by DM_Purp on Feb 13, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions

we won just as many play off games as the packers.

your comment means nothing.

by statue_left on Feb 12, 2012 9:08 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions

That was bad...like high school journalism bad

It looks like somebody forked over some money to put up a decent looking background in somebody’s basement that kind of looks like the elaborate ESPN and NFL Network backdrops. Then, a bunch of flunky electronic media and journalism students got together and formed Pro Football Weekly to produce those crappy videos.

When Jared Allen, who had a legitimate shot at breaking the NFL’s all-time sack record, on a team with what was almost the worst passing defense in NFL history is considered to be “over-rated”, then it becomes clear that whoever had that thought is an idiot, and knows nothing about football.

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by CCNorsemen on Feb 11, 2012 1:57 PM CST reply actions 2 recs

this should be turned to green

by Chris3 on Feb 11, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions

How do you get any more overrated than a certain butt-ugly, long-haired OLB that wears green and can be seen on every other TV commercial? Jared has skills and a personality. He could be an advertising boon if he wanted to be.

by Bodysuit Man on Feb 11, 2012 5:23 PM CST reply actions

Simple

You could be his fat, even more worthless teammate that got a lucky touchdown in an NFC title game one year, did a stupid-ass dance, and somehow gave everyone the impression that he’s an elite defensive tackle.

by Christopher Gates on Feb 11, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions

What part of Nick Collins season ending injury being the reason to the Packers issues on defense this season do you not understand?

by Timothy Bryce on Feb 12, 2012 2:31 AM CST up reply actions

What part of

“I don’t give a damn what dumb-ass excuses Packer fans have for fielding the pass defense that gave up more yards than any team in NFL history” do you not understand?

Go talk about the awesomeness of Nick Collins and the “greatness” of the pass defense that gave up 300 yards a game somewhere that people are going to be dumb enough to buy it.

by Christopher Gates on Feb 12, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions

Man, you Viking fans want to act like 2010 never happened and you want to believe so badly that the Packers are a bad team with major flaws, don’t you?

By the way, I do agree that Jared Allen is not overrated. In fact, I have told people this, I think Allen is the best 4-3, 3 point stance, speed rusher in the NFL today.

by Timothy Bryce on Feb 12, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions

Man, you Packer fans want to act like your team is the greatest team of all-time and that they’re so awesome and so perfect without any real, noticeable flaws, don’t you?

Seriously, it’s the off-season. Nobody here gives two craps about the Green Bay Packers, and they care even less what Green Bay Packer fans think of this team. The only time any of you show up is to crap on our team and our fans and whatever else you feel it is you have the right to do around here.

by Christopher Gates on Feb 12, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions

“Crap on your team”? Did I just not give Jared Allen props?

I do think they have several players who are the best at their position’s in the NFL. My two issues with them are how the organization runs the team when the obvious examples should tell them otherwise and the position the organization thinks the team is in right now.

by Timothy Bryce on Feb 12, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions

ah the 3 PFW guys, better known for their roles as

Froto Baggins, Samwise Gamgey, and Golum in the Lord of the Rings

"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen

by NMVike on Feb 11, 2012 7:53 PM CST reply actions

more like merry pippin and some other worthless charcter

atleast frodo was good at what he does

by statue_left on Feb 12, 2012 9:09 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions

I saw a PFW article recently about various players 'chances' of getting into the HoF

And, strangely enough, they have Julius Peppers as a 75% chance to get in, but Jared Allen as only a 50-50, which seems.. backwards, especially if Allen keeps getting double digit sacks like he has, you know, the last 4 years in a row. Peppers can’t say that.

I think they just dislike Jared Allen for some reason.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 12, 2012 10:24 PM CST reply actions