2012 WIDE RECIEVERS

by vikes 1 on Feb 12, 2012 9:46 PM CST

1 d bowe free agent pick up
2 m jenkins good possession reciever,great blocker

3 p harvin one of the best slot recievers/running reciever in football

4 comp draft pick(marvin mcnutt) young talent to groom for future

5 burton/aromashudo good back-up special teams performer/developemental project

what do you all think any sugestions we could go cheaper with free agent pick up.meachum,garcon and manningham could all be picked up cheaper.My preference would be garcon in that situation.I am from iowa so mcnutt is my choice but there are many other options with the draft pick.I want us to use the comp pick for sydney rice to draft a wide out.

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I actually like a Bowe-Jenkins tandem on the field.

I think they’d compliment each other’s skill sets nicely. Then you toss in Percy Harvin? If only Peterson hadn’t hurt his knee. If he gets back to 100%, that will be a pretty good offense. Possibly better than ’09 in terms of depth/talent at WR.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 12, 2012 10:27 PM CST reply actions

I like the idea of Bowe-Jenkins and Percy BUT

without ever a serviceable O-line, who cares? Don’t get me wrong, I would be excited to pick up Bowe but damn would it suck to have all this skill position talent with no O-Line.

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by Edgecrusher71 on Feb 13, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions

O-line talent should be easier to find than skill position talent

That’s why skill position players get paid so much more. Obviously we’d have to go through the draft (since good O-linemen rarely hit FA), but its, statistically, easier to find them than another Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 14, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions

hrm I wonder who makes more money, Hutch or Sydney Rice right now...

or a LT compared to just about any other position… Stars make money no matter where they play.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 15, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions

No

Bowe is great and I’d love to have him in purple, but I doubt he can be what Sidney Rice was in 2009 with a young QB and a worse offensive line.

If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).

by Alittlemore_cowbell on Feb 13, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions

But you can say the same thing about any other FA WR.

Sidney Rice did what he did in ’09 because he had a HOF QB throwing him the ball, of course Bowe is not going to put up the kind of season Sid had that year in the coming season.

But that does not mean that he won’t do it the year after. We are looking to sign someone for more than just one year.

And the O-line should be addressed in the Draft and/or FA.

by Bjorno on Feb 13, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions

Duh to your first two points...

I was responding to

that will be a pretty good offense. Possibly better than ’09 in terms of depth/talent at WR.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 12, 2012 8:27 PM PST reply actions

So we basically agree on we won’t have a 2009 offense next year.

While we should be drafting Kahlil (or Martin/Reiff if we do trade down) and picking some depth in FA, Kahlil should struggle for a while against NFL DE’s, Loadholt is a big liability in pass blocking and Hutch is slipping too; so I still think we’ll have a mediocre line at best next year.

If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).

by Alittlemore_cowbell on Feb 13, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions

Honestly it depends on what we do

If we do pick up Kalil that will probably help us out in two spot as Johnson goes to Herrera’s spot. I’m not saying Johnson is better than Herrera when Herrera was healthy, but it’s been a while since that man’s been healthy and I think Johnson can do a better job. Loadholt/Love hopefully Load realizes there is a guy in the wings for his job and uses the off season to practice up on his drop step and vision. Sully seems to be getting a lot of love from the analysts so I kind of have to think he’s improving add to that the contract the Vikes gave him and I think they see it too. That leaves Hutch, which might be handled through free agencies (as losing him opens up a whoopin 8 million this year for another guard to step into.) If not at least we’ve improved on two of our positions of need. I just hope Kalil can step into the NFL off the bat. Heck we might have Johnson out there with Kalil on the right for the beginning of the year.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions

Getting Kalil could help improve three positions on the line.

As you mentioned Kalil would be better than Johnson at LT and he would allow Johnson to upgrade the RG spot. Even Loadholt could be significantly better because having a LT that isn’t an absolute turnstile like Johnson would allow the TEs and RBs to give help to Loadholt on passing downs, which he got much less of this year due to Johnson’s craptitude.

by CanadianViking on Feb 13, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions

always have to one up me don't you

Dang Canadians!

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 13, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

LOADHOLT

he is in a contract year and nothing motivates like the all mighty dollar.kalil,fusco,sullivan,herrera(i think he will be better with an offseason to train instead of re hab)and loadholt would be better then this year.and if we keep johnson that would be even better yet!!

by vikes 1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions

Kalil could get better faster because

he will be practicing across from JA every day, and will have to pick it up on the fly or get burned daily. Any LT we draft will get better quicker cuz they will be practicing against the best, and will have every opportunity to get better.

by nmatt71 on Feb 13, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions

Great point

If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).

by Alittlemore_cowbell on Feb 14, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions

Doesn't make him less talented.

A Bowe/Jenkins/Harvin combo is much better than Rice/Berrian/Harvin. By alot.

I didn’t say they’d produce like our WRs did in ’09, but it will be a better group. Which is what a young, struggling QB needs to help him out.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 14, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions

bowe/ jenkins

at least percy can go into slot where he is deadly and i feel they all can/will block for A P and Toby if they come back from injuries.And it can free up rudolph to destroy the seams.

by vikes 1 on Feb 13, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

There's another free agent wide receiver out there ...

According to ESPN wide receiver Randy Moss wants to return to the NFL. Who better to stretch the field? No more of Childress using him as a decoy. No more Childress completely ignoring Randy’s suggestions. Are the Vikings still being catered by Tinucci’s??

by vking1 on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 AM CST reply actions

Moss is washed up - get over it - move on

by aceinthecorner on Feb 13, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions

If "washed up " means still running 4.3's and finally healed up and healthy.

But yeah , Moss won’t be coming back.

by vking1 on Feb 13, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think he's washed up..

He was still producing pretty well when he was on the field and getting the ball, even for us in ’10.

But he’s definitely not going to be coming back here. He’s going to want to go to the Patriots or possibly… Texans? An Andre Johnson/Randy Moss duo has to sound sexy to Schuab.

I can’t really think of any other team that seems just a piece or two away from making a serious run. Maybe the Ravens, I guess.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 14, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions

Bears?

by vking1 on Feb 14, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions

....... WTF

Noooooo. Why did you even put this thought into my head? Here I was, sitting in blissful ignorance..

Moss better not join the Bears. Ugh. Yuck. Dirty. Don’t do it, Randy!

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah seeing Moss against our pitiful excuse of a secondary would be more than I could take.

The Vikes aren't in a remodeling or reconstruction they are in a burn the place down and start praying they don't mimic the Lions rebuilding process.

by Grime on Feb 15, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions

I think KC will franchise Bowe

by aceinthecorner on Feb 13, 2012 5:34 PM CST reply actions

Im not quite sold yet

On Marvin McNads. Im anxious to see what wr we might get our grubby mits on in the drizaft.

by IL PurpleRain on Feb 13, 2012 6:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions

No to Bowe...for giving up on the play....against Steelers on SNF.

Just my $0.02

by izziefans on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 AM CST reply actions

Yeah, that was a bad showing.

It would be a much better line-up for Ponder though. If only Peterson hadn’t gotten injured. Bowe had his best season when teams were focusing on Jamaal Charles.

by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 14, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions

Bowe's talent & other misc. :

I saw a lot of responses wanting Dwayne Bowe.
While he is a very talented WR, posting good stats for having a mediocre QB, he’s had motivation issues…
I would be half afraid of that. There is a possibility that he has matured since his previous outbursts, and if it is decided that is true, then I’m all for that too…
I think if the Steelers were to drop Hines Ward, he would be a great pickup. His skill set has definitely declined, but he will still be average to above average, reliable & a fantastic blocker when needed. He is the most physical WR in the NFL. I kinda admire that in the game of football. There is word that if the Steelers aren’t willing to re-structure his contract, he may just retire… Making this point moot.
Garcon – He’s definitely had his flashes… But what WR that played with Peyton Manning didn’t… I would be deathly afraid of overpaying him.

Drafting a WR… Please say NO to Alshon Jeffery…. How many South Carolina WR’s are we going to persue?… I’ve had enough of them to last a lifetime…

There are a good deal of WR’s out there that could supplement our team.
I am on board with McNutt…
I also like (personally):
Nick Toon – Wisconsin
Juron Criner – Arizona
Mohamed Sanu – Rutgers
Dwight Jones – North Carolina
Jermaine Kearse – Washington
James Rodgers – Oregon State (history of knee injuries – last resort kinda guy – mad skills)

by Jester01 on Feb 14, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions