Minnesota Vikings Stadium: Deal Reportedly Very Close To Reality
by Christopher Gates on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM CST
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PrintThe moment of truth might be getting closer concerning a deal for a new Minnesota Vikings stadium adjacent to the Metrodome, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.
Vikings' owner Zygi Wilf met with Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton yesterday, and after the meeting was over, both sides sounded optimistic that things would get worked out.
"There are still matters to be negotiated, particularly with the city of Minneapolis," Dayton said after meeting with Wilf at the Capitol. "The number of issues that remain are limited and can be overcome if all parties are willing."
By "all parties," Dayton is likely (more or less) referring to the Minneapolis City Council, who has to come to a decision to bypass a potential referendum for the stadium, much like they did for Target Field, the new home of the Minnesota Twins. There was much weeping and gnashing of teeth about that as well. . .you know, until after it got built and everybody realized that Target Field is really pretty awesome. Hopefully the same thing will happen with the new home of the Minnesota Vikings and we can stop all this speculating about it.
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legislative session winding down shorly
Crap or get off the pot.
by Jepp The Viking on Feb 22, 2012 1:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't think there is any city money going to Target Field
Wasn’t that done by the county, thus making the Minneapolis City Charter irrelevant?
There’s some interesting politics left to play out. The state doesn’t need the city council’s okay to override the city charter (because the state is sovereign, while the city exists as a creature of state law). Should the legislature vote to do so and the governor sign it, it will be very interesting to see if the city council still tries to stand in the way. It seems that Dayton and the legislators want assurances that won’t happen.
But I still don’t really understand why the city council really needs to vote. I would think the bill could be written in such a way that it doesn’t, for the same reason the charter can be overridden. Perhaps it’s just politics and the legislative majority doesn’t want give the city council an issue (although it’s not like the Rs are really in the running for any city council seats anyway).
Anyway, I’ve written to my city council member, as has my brother. We both got basically the same response, saying she doesn’t support the mayor’s plan and that she won’t lobby to have the legislature override the charter (along with other arguments that I didn’t find very persuasive). But she doesn’t really say what she will do if that happens without her endorsement.
You're correct.
Target Field was funded by a county wide sales tax and it was the county board that voted to pass without a referendum. The city was/is not involved in the funding of TF.
I thought the legislature
Overrode the state law requiring a referendum for the imposition of any local general sales tax?
But it’s a county tax and the county spending the money, so the separate referendum required by the City Charter for spending more than $10 mil. on a sport facility was not an issue.
Sorry, you're correct.
State waived the referendum and the county board approved the sales tax. City was not involved.
So...
The dome gets a new set of spanx and we all now think shes not fat?
Oh, goody….
Glad they are staying in Minn.
Sad they are having to sell their soul to do it….
2011 Vikings, keeping the liquor industry in the green ALL YEAR LONG!
No, its a new stadium.
Its not a remodel for the dome. In a way, both sides win in this. Wilf gets his new stadium and Minneapolis keeps the team in the city.
The only loser is Arden hills, who put actual time and effort into trying to land the Vikes but couldn’t pull it off because they lack political muscle.
by REVENGE4KLUWE on Feb 22, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Or a funding option that didn't rely on new taxes
by amiller92 on Feb 22, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe?
At the rate they change their mind, who knows what they will end up with.
Would be nice to see more on it is all.
The fact the Viks are gong to be in a college stadium for possibly an entire season is just ghetto.
Sorry, Arden Hills should of been a done deal.
2011 Vikings, keeping the liquor industry in the green ALL YEAR LONG!
ghetto...yea,
because a college stadium is akin to gang warfare, drug dealers, pants down at the knees, high crime, etc. Unless you meant the dictionary definition, whereby you were describing a college stadium as of being one ethnic group. Either way, it doesn’t make sense. And, of course, it’s not like the Vikings would be setting a precedent by moving to a college stadium for a year while getting a new stadium.
Yes, playing in a college stadium has NEVER happened.
I mean, it’s not like the Bears did it in this century anything. Oh wait…
or the
Seahawks
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by VikesFaninNM on Feb 22, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
or the Titans
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen
And lest we forget
the Arizona Cardinals for many years.
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by VikesFaninNM on Feb 22, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
I would guess we should include
the old L.A. Rams and L.A. Raiders as they both played at the Coliseum for a time.
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by VikesFaninNM on Feb 22, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
scumbdevil stadium
man those bench allum seats got hot as H E double hockey sticks. cards would make vikes wear home purples too . talk about a home field advantage early in the season.
LOL
good lord you people get your asses wound up fast.
I love how many people bitching about it, and now its the greatest thing ever! lol
Keep being happy, we get to go a year with no beer, the fans will love that :P
2011 Vikings, keeping the liquor industry in the green ALL YEAR LONG!
Yea, no.
The U has already said they are confident that won’t be an issue. I suppose President Kaler could be making that up, but I doubt it.
Im sure they will do their best
And its nothing again Gopher stadium, its just a College stadium vs a professional football stadium is rather apples to oranges.
2011 Vikings, keeping the liquor industry in the green ALL YEAR LONG!
No offense taken.
TCF is a great college stadium. It was never meant to be NFL level. Just noting that alcohol shouldn’t be a prob.
If memory serves
The ‘Dome’ was built on-the-cheap. (I had to chuckle when I read one comment that described it as ‘stae-of-the-art’ at the time) (No. it was definitely NOT state-of-the-art) It was pushed through even after the measure had been defeated. This, then, is the reason were at this point once again. Therefore, I believe Arden Hills would be a better site. (So the Wilfs might expand over time and make more money) For me the problem is the taxes. Not one person should pay one penny of tax for a ‘friggn’ stadium. Monied people should pony-up and that’s that!
Let me see if I follow you
The dome was built on the cheap, thus Arden Hills is better? Better than what?
Wilf and the team seem to think that whatever they are negotiating works for them (or at least works well enough that they don’t want to wait longer for the possibility of Arden HIlls).
Better than
the current facility, and, in my opinion, better than downtown (seems to work well for the Twins, but you don’t tailgate at baseball games)…..I always hated the Dome…been to a couple of games there and the lights made me squint, the seats were, at best, uncomfortable (god forbid you were seated next to someone overweight!) And UGLY…just an ugly-ass building if there ever was one.
I’m pretty sure a stadium is a stadium to the Wylfs, so your last sentence is probably correct.
I just don’t want to see another ‘compromise’ facility. The dome just doesn’t have any curb appeal, and I’m afraid ‘they’ are going to make the same mistakes they made when they built the dome.
As the saying goes...
$h*t rolls down hill……
And feel free to back lash on anything I write because everyone is entitled to there opinion. Ill take it all with a grain of salt but often like to get views of others as well.
Minneapolis has never and will never EVER let the Vikings build a dome other than where it is now. The legislature of Minnesota realize that the Dome brings in the only five letter word that people love to say. MONEY As I see it is that the legislature sees the revenue that games bring in to the state of Minnesota. Between taxi cab rides tax, hotel tax, restaurant food tax, booze tax, tax on entertainment, tax on blah blah blah blah blah. This is a revenue that the state of Minneapolis realizes that is and can be maximized by having the Dome where it is.
One my notice I say DOME. The state of Minneapolis as we all know have weather patterns that can “Cave in a roof” or “Postpone any outdoor activities”. (Like what I did there?) As we know many events can take place indoors. Indoor stadiums need to be built for the future as well, so the revenue can be maximized. The state of Minnesota needs and should be required to build a dome for the Vikings. Not with pubic money requirment, but with best of intrest to maximize profit for the Dome. Yes, we all love weather to play a factor in coming to Minnesota so Adrian Peterson can run 500+ yards per game, because, YES HE IS THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE NFL. However, with feet of snow falling in Minnesota, many fans would trade sitting in FEET of snow vs sitting on a warm couch inturn the state of Minnesota losing out on the revenue from that person at home. Building a new stadium should be for the people, not the players.
The people (fans) have made the NFL a multi-billion dollar business. The fans love the competition, the fans love the hard hitting plays, the fans love the potential 1 play that could decide a W or a L. The revenue from the Vikings will never be lost because the politicians realize they can not help there fellow district without revenue. As the saying goes….$hit rolls down hill
The legislature for the state of Minneosta will not allow the vikings to move because of the revenue. I know this is a hard to and hard to realize, $h*t rolls down hill.
Without the revenue of the Vikings and the NFL, the legislature will roll. Sit back and let the deal be made….If you build it, they will come.
Sorry for all the mispelling, and errors. Its hard to type on a train ride.
Couple of thoughts.
This is a revenue that the state of Minneapolis realizes that is and can be maximized by having the Dome where it is.
Actually, a stadium on the west side of downtown would probably maximize revenue more as it would be closer to a higher concentration of restaurants/bars. But I have no idea if the difference would be substantial or not.
The state of Minnesota needs and should be required to build a dome for the Vikings.
This has never really been in question. The only real question has been about whether the roof will be retractable or not.
agreed
goaupher. agreed. To me a retractable is nice but when your having a hard time even getting a deal FOR a new stadium…a retractable roof is a key point that one can say "hey this is what im giving up….(the retractable roof) what are you going to give…..
see what I am saying?
Whatever.
I’ll believe it when it happens.
by MNWildcat on Feb 22, 2012 2:28 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
And.....
apparently there will be OUTDOOR football for possibly 2 seasons. Should help the home team as it did years ago.
Sadly
only temporarily
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by VikesFaninNM on Feb 22, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
TCF Bank huh?
So that means they’re putting in the new heating coils? And what about the alcohol? How many renovations will need to be done?
Here are random details on each (none finalized) that I can recall reading:
- Alcohol: President Kaler has said that he has no concerns that the U and Vikings can come to an understanding. No details.
- Heating coils: I don’t think they’ve said specifically that these would be added but logically you can pretty much assume that the Vikings will be paying to get this done.
- Other renovations: None that have been publicly given, though 3,000 temporary seats will be added to the open end of the stadium.
Heating coils: depends
I read at least one report saying maybe the Vikes would only play the first part of the 2015 season at the Bank. If that’s right, they might not need them.
I'll believe it
after it has passed the Legislature, sign by the Gov., Dogs & Cats signing an agreement not to sleep together thus avoiding mass histeria, George Lucas forever removes Jar Jar Binks from the annuals of Star Wars, Flight 19 is finally found intact and the pilots never having aged like “Close Encounters” and finally, it is proven, beyond a doubt, that the answer to Life, The Universe and Eveything is indeed the number 42.
OK, I’ll take the first 2 demands. Jar Jar is still in Phantom Menace 3D.
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And Han shot first
I don’t give a damn what George Lucas tries to tell me.
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by Christopher Gates on Feb 22, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
No arguement there
I just showed the Fiance the original opening of Star Wars, without the “Episode IV” in it. Also, click the Pic, there is definate proof!
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by VikesFaninNM on Feb 22, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
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