Minnesota Vikings Get New Trade Partner In Latest SB Nation Mock Draft
With draft speculation season getting started in earnest today, the folks at the SB Nation mothership have released their latest 2012 NFL Mock Draft and, in this version, the Minnesota Vikings get a new trade partner when it comes to their #3 overall selection.
In this case, our new trade partner is the Seattle Seahawks, who have the 12th overall selection in the 2012 NFL Draft. They move up to select Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, and with the Vikings moving down nine spots, they end up selecting a player I like quite a bit in Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick.
Kirkpatrick's weed arrest is going to get his name bumped down on some draft boards but he is a first rate corner whose legal troubles pale in comparison to Chris Cook.
I don't know. . .the last time the Vikings spent a first round pick on a guy that was allegedly a pot head, it worked out fairly well for them. I mean, Percy Harvin has been pretty good, right?
Seeing this scenario made me curious as to what the Vikings could actually get from the Seahawks in order to make this trade happen, so I pulled up the Draft Pick Value Chart. Based on it, the Vikings' #3 pick is worth 2,200 "points," while Seattle's #12 pick is worth 1,200. That means the Seahawks would have to make up 1,000 points somewhere (if we're going by the chart). The Seahawks also have the 43rd overall selection, which is worth 470 points, which isn't nearly enough to make up the difference.
In this particular scenario. . .and keep in mind, this is just speculation. . .it appears that the Vikings could get #12, #43, and the Seahawks' first-round pick in 2013 in order to make this trade happen (since a 1st rounder next year would be worth approximately the same as a 2nd rounder this year). I don't know about you, but given the chance, I would hope that this team would absolutely jump at that.
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I would have taken Jonathan Martin in this scenario
The talent at OT drops dramatically after him. There will be good CB’s in the 2nd possibly 3rd rounds.
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen
Amen Brother!
It has to be one of the big three OTs. I would be nervous about dropping all the way down to 12 and missing one of those. But if we can still get one there then sweet.
I definitely would have to take Martin instead of Dre
The compensation is just about right and would be perfect for a team like the Vikings who will definitely be rebuilding the next two years. Having two firsts next year will help out tremendously.
Good point NMVike
Also, secondary seems to be less of a guarantee as they transition. Don’t know the success #s recently, but just what it seems. Getting an OT or OG would be huge for this team and see instant results. A player in the secondary in college usually has a size/speed advantage. It’s hard to judge their “instincts”. They usually are physically talented enough to blanket lesser WRs. Plus, like RBs, you can gfind a guy physically talented enough to coach him up and be just fine in the NFL. Look at Patrick Peterson last year. Of course he’s young, but if he wasn’t a beast in returns, he would be a big time flop, IMO. He was also labelled the most “sure” thing going into the NFL last year. We need LOTS of secondary help, so I would rather spend a couple of picks in the 2nd/3rd/or 4th rounds and give ourselves more chances to find guys that can play. OT in the 1st and get instant results(typically).
White Horn Gold Pants
This is a great scenario for the Vikings
My real hope is still that Spielman can create enough smoke about other teams trading up to the #3 spot to draft RG3 to convince the Browns to trade their 2 firsts to switch spots. The points don’t add up exactly, meaning the Vikings would have to make up approx 400 draft pick points, but this is my ideal draft scenario.
Does the SB change this at all?
Do you think family jealousy can play any factor in this? Now that Eli has another ring do you think that’ll factor into Peyton’s thinking at all this term?? and could that poss shake up the draft board??
FAIL
Sorry, where’s the delete button? Didn’t think my previous post through properly……D’oh
by dropdeadhomer on Feb 6, 2012 12:12 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Let me get this straight
You want us to trade our pick which would either be Kalil or RG3, both of whom are studs and high character guys, for a CB who’s had some legal issues?? With our track record in the 2nd round, I hate this scenario. If wr don’t address LT in Rd 1, we’ll be drafting QB again in 2013 because Ponder will be dead.
If you watched the SB the thing that struck me was how clean the pocket was for both QB’s a majority of the time. I just think when you get a top 3 pick you need to cash in with a stud.
by Torstein on Feb 6, 2012 12:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Well then
As other people have suggested, we take Jonathan Martin (who is still available in this scenario) at #12 instead.
Either way, if the Seahawks were to offer the Vikings this deal, they’d be crazy not to take it.
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by Christopher Gates on Feb 6, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
And, not for nothing
But apparently the charges against Kirkpatrick were completely dismissed just a little bit ago.
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by Christopher Gates on Feb 6, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Totally hate this scenario - hopefully the Vikings don't jump at it at all
Plus they (Seahawks) have dicked us in the past over trade crap and such. Forget them.
BOO!!!
I would say that the Vikings got the better-end of most Viking-Seahawk player transactions.
We got Hutch and were able to dodge the TJ Housh and Sid Rice contracts. Hell, they even took T-Jack off our hands!
don't forget nate "poison pill" Burleson
Peyton's good but have you ever heard of Jeff George?
best case sceneario if we do this
no one ever has to hear about tarvaris jackson again
by statue_left on Feb 6, 2012 1:26 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Let me think !!!
to summarize, we will switch our #3 for Seattle’s #12.
In exchange we will get their # 43 and theit first round next year.
If we can have a decent OT or OG at that spot I will say yes.
Having two first rounds next year will help
On the other hand, Am I ready yo accept another "rebuilding " year in 2012 ???
I do not know.
Difficult choice !!!!
If we get one of the top 3 OT's I would be for it.
I would still prefer that we get Cleveland’s two first rounders even if we have to throw in a later round pick or two.
@MexiVike I don’t think we have any choice but to be rebuilding in 2012.
The NDSU Bison rock.
I find it unlikely...
… that the Rams will get the expected value for the 2nd over all pick. The Browns would be expected to give up both 1st round picks this year – a price I don’t think they will be prepared to pay. The Redskins decision to move up to the 2nd pick would be influenced by Cam Newton. Newton had arguably the greatest rookie year for a QB, and yet the Panthers are still selecting in the top 10 this year. For the Redskins to move up, they almost certainly will have to give this year’s #6, plus their 2nd round pick, plus the 1st from next year. Would the Redskins be willing to give up possibly 2 top 10 picks, plus a 2nd round pick for a not such a sure thing QB? The Rams also see the benefit of selecting a franchise LT at a very affordable contract, which is not going to happen in free agency.
The Vikings’ pick is much more attainable. The Browns would only have to give up the #4 and their 2nd round pick this year to move up to #3, the Redskins would probably have to give the #6, plus their 2nd and 4th round picks this year. This won’t handicap the Redskins future by giving up their 2013 1st round pick, just in case Shanahan is let go after the season.
I still think the Vikings would be best served if Kalil falls to them at #3, but I don’t see the Rams letting that happen.
My mock top 6
- Luck – Colts
- Kalil – Rams
- Griffin III – Browns (from Vikings)
- Clairborne – Vikings (from Browns)
- Richardson (Buccaneers)
- Blackmon (Redskins)
I can see the Vikings also getting some trade enquiries for the #4 pick for Blackmon (assuming he blows up the combine), but with the chance of getting the top rated CB on top of an extra 2nd rounder, I don’t think the Vikings should bite. If the Vikings trade with the Redskins, then Reiff would have to be considered. Whilst the Seahawks would have to be considered as an option as a trade partner, I don’t think the Vikings are looking to move that far down the draft in the first round. There is also no sure thing that the Seahawks won’t be more competive next season, making their draft choice next year worth less.
Regarding Blackmon, he will be a great player in the NFL, but I see him as a #2 receiver, not a #1.
by blowfishes on Feb 6, 2012 2:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
A couple things
Vikes have 10 picks in two consecutive drafts. With a looming salary cap floor, they likely couldn’t keep all these guys if they wanted to. Just because the team is full of holes doens’t mean that amassing tons of picks is logical, or even possible in practice.
The NFL has become a league in which most of the best teams field elite QB’s. If you do not have on your team a QB that could become the next big thing, then you should be looking to add QB’s and develop them. Ponder has never shown anything at any level to suggest he is a top flight prospect. Yes he is a good athlete. Yes he is book smart. Yes he is a good leader and good person. But he isn’t very good at throwing footballs into guys’ hands.
Last season he was the 4th or 5th best looking rookie QB. Dalton, Cam Newton, and the Houston Texans guy ALL looked clearly better IMO and put up better stats. Two of them were in the playoffs and the third shattered most rookie records. Then there was Ponder, oft injured and highly inaccurate and nearly useless as a downfield passer. (Yes I remember those two or three times he hit one downfield but it doesn’t change the fact that he was the worst in the NFL in passes over 15 yards in the air)
RG3 and Luck are statistically two of the most devastating passers in a long time. Both are great leaders, highly motivated, and very book smart on top of that all. They will almost certainly go #1 and #2, contrary to what some think. But if by some miracle the Vikes have a shot then by god let’s take it.
Wouldn’t it be fun to have him on the team?
Nooooo
Kalil, Blackmon or Claiborne at three. Never mind the trade idea. As has been stated, Rick S has done squat with our picks that have not fallen into our lap and can someone explain to me why he allegedly promised ponder he would not draft a qb to compete with him? Even if RG3 is there or lets pretend, Luck? i for one am not convinced he is our no. one right now. joe w has shown me just as much??

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