I'm not going to talk about how great of a prospect Carr is and how great of a fit he is in Norv Turner's offense and why I think he's worthy of the 8th pick. If you want convincing, you can look at an article Arif made on cover32 for why its reasonable to believe he will succeed in Minnesota and would be a great pick. He's got the accuracy, he's got exceeding football smarts, arm strength (only QB whose ball didn't get affected by the wind at the Senior Bowl), good pocket presence, and what is to me is one of the most important quality for a quarterback, he's got excellent ball placement. He's got the most NFL transferrable traits of the top 4 QBs IMO. But that's not my argument. I recommend reading Arif on why he and Norv are a match made in Heaven if that's your question.
So I'm not going to argue why he's worth it even though I think he is. What I find problematic is this view that it's okay to take Derek Carr if we trade down to the mid-teens. These people must have a much better scouting ability than I because I can't look at a prospect and tell you "no no he's not a 8 pick he's a 15." That's seven spots. I find it difficult to believe that people here are good enough scouts to determine he's a bad pick, a reach of desperation at 8 but a good pick 7 spots later. Because I can't tell the skill difference between a 8th overall and a 15th overall as if it's a clear and obvious difference and I have a hard time believing many can. The fact is either he's going to work out and he would be a great pickup at 8 or he's not going to work out and he would be a bad pick at 15. Either way, whether or not Carr is a good pickup has nothing to do with whether we take him at 8 or 15. If he works as our QBOTF then he was a excellent pick at either. If he doesn't work out like Jackson or Ponder, than it was a bad pick at 8 or 15. Meaning, if you believe he can be a great QB, you take him at 8 and not take any chances. Because even if you think he belongs in the teens or even 20s, you don't have a pick in the teens or 20s so you take him at 8 when you do have a pick.
But we could trade down and get extra picks? I think people don't realize how hard it is to trade down. You need a team who really wants to and is offering you something worth it. They tried to trade down in the Ponder draft. They didn't get a good offer. I've seen one person pose we would get a 1st 2nd and 4th to move up seven spots. This is very optimistic. It's not like everyone's trying to trade up and offering crazy deals like this that leave them with just one more pick until the 5th round. It's far more likely if we passed on Carr, that we would trade back up into the first round above Cleveland or Arizona than to find a killer deal to trade down 7 spots. So if you can't find a killer deal but you think he's a better pick at 15, I say you still take him. You don't have a pick at 15 or 20. You have the 8th pick and don't pick again until the 40th.